Atención! Murderer Next Door | An Emmy-Winning Op-Doc

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@timonoj
@timonoj 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no mention whatsoever about the role the US played on the coup d'etat and support afterwards. The tale starts magically right after all that, to tell it like it's only an Argentinian thing.
@seanmattison
@seanmattison 4 жыл бұрын
Hi timonoj, thank you for your comment. I directed this documentary and the choice was made to focus on the efforts of the younger post dictatorship generation and their struggle for justice and accountability. The historical complicity of the United States government and its support for the dictatorship through Operation Condor is well documented and the subject of many books and documentaries before this one. I recommend John Dinges's book "The Condor Years" in particular. It is always a challenge to decide what elements of a story to include in a short film but the omission of that detail should not be taken to mean that we are not cognizant of the history of US involvement. Certainly if the US prosecuted war crimes in the same way that Argentina has then Henry Kissinger would be first on that list. Thank you for your feedback, and feel free to e-mail me any time (link on my website).
@ianhomerpura8937
@ianhomerpura8937 4 жыл бұрын
@Tomas Flores you really believe that propaganda? You've been Condored.
@indieoak
@indieoak 4 жыл бұрын
@Tomas Flores Tomas, you make a short film and then we'll all tell YOU the ways your hard work and time wasn't good enough.
@ignacio330
@ignacio330 4 жыл бұрын
@@seanmattison Hi as an argentinian already cognizant of the power of the "escrache" I really thougnht this was about US involvement in what their "neighbourgs" were doing given that that is a part I realy feel is missing in the liberal US memory. Its nice to se a documentary about that fight dont get me wrong. Its just not the documentary I think your readers need to see
@chaotichumalien9988
@chaotichumalien9988 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanmattison you did it good mate
@narkelnaru2710
@narkelnaru2710 4 жыл бұрын
Stunning. It's simultaneously elevating and soul-crushing. The courage of the people is stupefying.
@kamueladoe5615
@kamueladoe5615 3 жыл бұрын
The United States is responsible for the genocide BTW
@jorgecesaro8903
@jorgecesaro8903 Жыл бұрын
Enforced dissapearance keeps happening in Argentina. Im a lawyer and suvivor, and I recorded my own kidnapping in a cell phone, just a few minutes before we got taken. The first time it happened was in 2013,, in the Goverment of Cristina Kirchner. i recorded policemen geting into our company at night, with unidentified cars, without a uniform, covered faces, without "legal procedure witnesses"*, and without any kind of warrant. That was 100% against every argentinian of law. The guy leading the assault group was the Chief of the Federal Police, Marcelo Lepwalts, recently sentenced for narcotraffic, and conspirancy. He took our company by assault. 30 people were murdered. This crimes were commited with political suppourt, and still unpunished. Back in the 70s, it was an ideology conflict (comunism vs capitalism). Now its all about narco-politicians, lots of money, and politicians who want to hide his crimes. i was very lucky to be released alive, and I gueess it happens cause many saw when they took me. The criminals behind that were mafias, and (as i sayd) the chief of the Federal police of Santa Fe (the "Argentinian Sinaloa"). They killed more people than the military dictatorship, but everything was silenced cause they control the press and the goverment. I will release my own report in ENGLISH soon. if you care about Human Rights, please stay tuned. Prosecution against military was not about justice. It was about revenge and politicians impunity. They took goverment in the 83, they start robbing, and even his grand sons of this politicians had never ever worked. Every politician becomes a millionaire. The country and the people were sacked. This iis the only country in the World without and Odebretch scandall sentenced.
@RamiresHelena
@RamiresHelena 4 жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian, I’m proud of our Argentinian neighbors for never stopping seeking justice. Here unfortunately the amnesty law turned into amnesia and we seem to have forgotten the horrors of our own military dictatorship, even though the wounds it caused are still open
@Rayitolaser569
@Rayitolaser569 2 жыл бұрын
Latinamericans seem to do the same exact thing over an over again, forget the past mistakes and repeat them with the hope this time they'll work. Saludos desde Argentina.
@jorgecesaro8903
@jorgecesaro8903 Жыл бұрын
Enforced dissapearance keeps happening in Argentina. Im a lawyer and suvivor, and I recorded my own kidnapping in a cell phone, just a few minutes before we got taken. The first time it happened was in 2013,, in the Goverment of Cristina Kirchner. i recorded policemen geting into our company at night, with unidentified cars, without a uniform, covered faces, without "legal procedure witnesses"*, and without any kind of warrant. That was 100% against every argentinian of law. The guy leading the assault group was the Chief of the Federal Police, Marcelo Lepwalts, recently sentenced for narcotraffic, and conspirancy. He took our company by assault. 30 people were murdered. This crimes were commited with political suppourt, and still unpunished. Back in the 70s, it was an ideology conflict (comunism vs capitalism). Now its all about narco-politicians, lots of money, and politicians who want to hide his crimes. i was very lucky to be released alive, and I gueess it happens cause many saw when they took me. The criminals behind that were mafias, and (as i sayd) the chief of the Federal police of Santa Fe (the "Argentinian Sinaloa"). They killed more people than the military dictatorship, but everything was silenced cause they control the press and the goverment. I will release my own report in ENGLISH soon. if you care about Human Rights, please stay tuned. Prosecution against military was not about justice. It was about revenge and politicians impunity. They took goverment in the 83, they start robbing, and even his grand sons of this politicians had never ever worked. Every politician becomes a millionaire. The country and the people were sacked. This iis the only country in the World without and Odebretch scandall sentenced. - Mulher. Os politicos tem a osta caente. Elles fizeron as mesmas coisas que os militares. VC pode olhar no Thames TV site.
@MadAdventure919
@MadAdventure919 Жыл бұрын
You were not even born when things happened.The world was totally different then today. Only the little communist angels that disappeared. Everyone just wanted to implant communism in Argentina and the rest of South America.
@nosceteipsum-mw7nj
@nosceteipsum-mw7nj Жыл бұрын
@@jorgecesaro8903how you know the were policemen?😊
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 Жыл бұрын
30,000 people were killed in a less than 30 million large countgry - Argentina. In Brazil, little over 500 people were killed and the country had over 100 million people. The Amnesty law applies to all - the agents of repression and those who commited terrorism. BTW, an important reason for why the law isn't serously challenged is that a lot of those who now are prominent politicians not only would be afftected but also the collaboration of some of them will be revealed.
@davidshelow5334
@davidshelow5334 4 жыл бұрын
The US supported this regime. "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged." Noam Chomsky
@ulture
@ulture 4 жыл бұрын
think you mean the Nuremberg Principles. I don't meant o be pedantic, but it's a pretty important difference. The Nuremberg Laws were the Nazis' own laws that, among other things, stripped Jews of their citizenship.
@davidshelow5334
@davidshelow5334 4 жыл бұрын
@@ulture Thanks, Ed. I was not aware of that. It's a quote from Chomsky; seems like he should have known the difference, but maybe not.
@fedvvvv
@fedvvvv 4 жыл бұрын
The guerillas were financed by Russia and trained in Cuba. Don't YOU forget about that.
@ulture
@ulture 4 жыл бұрын
@@fedvvvv good
@norsktoolmaker88
@norsktoolmaker88 4 жыл бұрын
@@ulture I think the perspective Chomsky was using were the laws that came about as a result of the trials. Formalized with joining the UN charter.
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 4 жыл бұрын
Operacion Cóndor. Don't try to play the fool, US organised and backed up all the coups in Latin-américa.
@hassenvenero5126
@hassenvenero5126 4 жыл бұрын
Not all, that’s just an overstatement, but the US definitely backed a lot of coup d’états and dictatorships all around Latin America.
@heilnop8014
@heilnop8014 4 жыл бұрын
​@@hassenvenero5126 Argentina (Videla), Chile (Pinochet), Brazil(Castelo Branco), Uruguay (Bordaberry), Paraguay (Stroessner), Nicaragua (Somoza),Panamá (Noriega, even that he was captured after being used by the US), and the list keep going, even that we are only talking about coups, we are not talking about death squads, kidnappings and voter fraud, the US is the mainly responsible of all of this.
@hassenvenero5126
@hassenvenero5126 4 жыл бұрын
@@heilnop8014 yeah, but those are not all the coups that have existed in Latin America, aren’t they? That’s my point
@vinasandrade
@vinasandrade 4 жыл бұрын
They backed all of them alright, but didn't organize'em all.... The longest of the dictatorships, the Brazilian one, that lasted for 21 years, wasn't organized by the US, for instance. Backed by US sure, bot not organized neither idealized by it.
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 4 жыл бұрын
@@vinasandrade "Escuela de las Américas" google that please.
@lucyscandalo
@lucyscandalo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm only 25 years old. My mother's aunt was a social worker and a university teacher who was in prison for 7 years during the dictatorship. She died years after her realese from cancer depressed and locked in her apartment refusing treatment. I didn't know her, I lived my whole life in a democracy but this marked our family history. We don't forget or forgive. This is within our collective memory, and we're never allowing this to happen again.
@holaferfi
@holaferfi 3 жыл бұрын
Te abrazo. Ni olvido ni perdón.
@jorgecesaro8903
@jorgecesaro8903 Жыл бұрын
Enforced dissapearance keeps happening in Argentina. Im a lawyer and suvivor, and I recorded my own kidnapping in a cell phone, just a few minutes before we got taken. The first time it happened was in 2013,, in the Goverment of Cristina Kirchner. i recorded policemen geting into our company at night, with unidentified cars, without a uniform, covered faces, without "legal procedure witnesses"*, and without any kind of warrant. That was 100% against every argentinian of law. The guy leading the assault group was the Chief of the Federal Police, Marcelo Lepwalts, recently sentenced for narcotraffic, and conspirancy. He took our company by assault. 30 people were murdered. This crimes were commited with political suppourt, and still unpunished. Back in the 70s, it was an ideology conflict (comunism vs capitalism). Now its all about narco-politicians, lots of money, and politicians who want to hide his crimes. i was very lucky to be released alive, and I gueess it happens cause many saw when they took me. The criminals behind that were mafias, and (as i sayd) the chief of the Federal police of Santa Fe (the "Argentinian Sinaloa"). They killed more people than the military dictatorship, but everything was silenced cause they control the press and the goverment. I will release my own report in ENGLISH soon. if you care about Human Rights, please stay tuned. Prosecution against military was not about justice. It was about revenge and politicians impunity. They took goverment in the 83, they start robbing, and even his grand sons of this politicians had never ever worked. Every politician becomes a millionaire. The country and the people were sacked. This iis the only country in the World without and Odebretch scandall sentenced.
@adid.8526
@adid.8526 4 жыл бұрын
"Our neighbours commited genocide". Sounds like the entirety of eastern europe's history lmao
@TheRaveJunkie
@TheRaveJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
@grimm reaper So the US consented on multiple genocides? Care to provide proof?
@AB-kq8jj
@AB-kq8jj 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRaveJunkie Operation Cóndor.
@superbtrack_6482
@superbtrack_6482 4 жыл бұрын
Sgt. Killjoy proof? Do you have any knowledge of the cold war policies from US that supported the Argentinian dictatorship?
@tiktaktv9270
@tiktaktv9270 4 жыл бұрын
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@TheRaveJunkie
@TheRaveJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
@@AB-kq8jj Sorry mate, but that does not prove "consent to genocide", if you think it does you might have to look up the word genocide.
@JohnAllerton1977
@JohnAllerton1977 4 жыл бұрын
The story about the apple 🍎 was really powerful.
@dcmacnamara6014
@dcmacnamara6014 4 жыл бұрын
I have this strong suspicion that that tale is fiction.
@emmachizz1024
@emmachizz1024 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcmacnamara6014 Escuse me for my bad english They where taken away from their family,brutally treated,faced torture together,that make you form a bond,the people beside you are in the same/worst condition than you,they locked up elderly,young,pregnant,probably even people just passing by,it was a state of constant fear. My father lived during the dictatorship,he still talks about it with palpable fear. that apple was a sign of kindness probably the best/only thing they had eaten all day,that woman by doing that shoud a big F you to the military, bc the regimen was all about keeping the people separated,whit fear,that woman,mostró incredible kidness and baravery. You sudn't be surprised,is human kidnes and compasion,the fact that you can't believe that makes me really sad
@lucasmachain
@lucasmachain 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcmacnamara6014 actually that could have happened... the people who was not a direct suspicious of subversion was easily located... most of them were locked inside police stations... the problem was the amount of corruption and the power of the dictatorship government that really made difficult the process of legal justice to work. If you want more documentation there’s a compiled of declarations made by a national commission after return of democracy called Nunca Más (never again) report
@pianorover
@pianorover 4 жыл бұрын
"Forbidden birds" by Eduardo Galeano Uruguayan political prisoners cannot speak, whistle, smile, sing, walk fast, or greet another prisoner without permission. They also cannot draw or receive pictures of pregnant women, couples, butterflies, stars, or birds. 1976, in a prison in Uruguay. Didasko Pérez, a school teacher, tortured and imprisoned for having “ideological ideas”, receives a visit from his five-year-old daughter Milay on Sunday. She brings him a drawing of birds. The censors tear it up at the entrance of the jail. The following Sunday, Milay brings him a drawing of trees. Trees are not prohibited, so the drawing is allowed. Didasko praises his daughter's work and asks about the colored circles that appear in the treetops, many small circles among the branches: -Are they oranges? What fruits are they? The girl shuts him up: -Ssshhhh. And secretly explains: -Silly!. Don't you see that they're eyes? The eyes of the birds that I secretly brought you.
@simonetii
@simonetii 4 жыл бұрын
@@pianorover no conocia... me hizo lagrimear
@rocioolivera1258
@rocioolivera1258 Жыл бұрын
During the dictatorship, my uncle was kidnapped, taken out from his home, beaten to an inch of his life to the point where it took him months to recover just because they thought he was a "rebel" and it turns out they just got him confused with someone else
@claudioholzer5404
@claudioholzer5404 4 жыл бұрын
Great New York Times piece... Just forgot the American training and financing of those fascist governments... Look up school of the Americas. Otherwise great docomentary on the social effects and the generational healing required.
@jorgecesaro8903
@jorgecesaro8903 Жыл бұрын
Enforced dissapearance keeps happening in Argentina. Im a lawyer and suvivor, and I recorded my own kidnapping in a cell phone, just a few minutes before we got taken. The first time it happened was in 2013,, in the Goverment of Cristina Kirchner. i recorded policemen geting into our company at night, with unidentified cars, without a uniform, covered faces, without "legal procedure witnesses"*, and without any kind of warrant. That was 100% against every argentinian of law. The guy leading the assault group was the Chief of the Federal Police, Marcelo Lepwalts, recently sentenced for narcotraffic, and conspirancy. He took our company by assault. 30 people were murdered. This crimes were commited with political suppourt, and still unpunished. Back in the 70s, it was an ideology conflict (comunism vs capitalism). Now its all about narco-politicians, lots of money, and politicians who want to hide his crimes. i was very lucky to be released alive, and I gueess it happens cause many saw when they took me. The criminals behind that were mafias, and (as i sayd) the chief of the Federal police of Santa Fe (the "Argentinian Sinaloa"). They killed more people than the military dictatorship, but everything was silenced cause they control the press and the goverment. I will release my own report in ENGLISH soon. if you care about Human Rights, please stay tuned. Prosecution against military was not about justice. It was about revenge and politicians impunity. They took goverment in the 83, they start robbing, and even his grand sons of this politicians had never ever worked. Every politician becomes a millionaire. The country and the people were sacked. This iis the only country in the World without and Odebretch scandall sentenced.
@funkytomtom
@funkytomtom 4 жыл бұрын
How is the American role in all this just not mentioned?!?!?
@funkytomtom
@funkytomtom 4 жыл бұрын
@B Babbich You don't history much, do ya? "The US was looking for allies to stop Russia from moving in, thats it" is a wholly incorrect statement. The CIA was heavily involved in installing and supporting this regime. And much like where Jakarta, Indonesia where they honed these methods of killing leftists, they were actively involved in the murder campaigns as well.
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 4 жыл бұрын
@B Babbich Really? US is not involved? 😀😀😀 Search for "school of the Américas" and learn who trained the killers and organised all this military coups.
@quisqueyanguy120
@quisqueyanguy120 4 жыл бұрын
@B Babbich The alternative was democracy and freedom. You were fed up with anti commie propaganda so much that you cant even recognize history? All latin american dictatorships were replaced not by commies but by liberal democratic regimes, the same kind of regimes that existed before the involvement of the USA during the cold war. You are literally justifying the unjustifiable just to save face. Shame on you.
@pablox91
@pablox91 4 жыл бұрын
​@Nick Arjomand You are just making things up and know nothing about Argentina's history. KGB intervention in terrorizing politicians? Where did you learn that?!
@TheButterMinecart1
@TheButterMinecart1 4 жыл бұрын
@B Babbich You can't look at history in a vacuum. It just doesn't make sense. "Ignoring the Cold War geopolitical angle" just removes half of the story.
@hengsovandara7031
@hengsovandara7031 3 жыл бұрын
The video sends a powerful message to the world that any criminal shall never be allowed go unpunished. The process of seeking justice for the victims may take time, but it will eventually be served when the people have the will and determination to uphold it.
@CompleatedMagic
@CompleatedMagic 11 ай бұрын
Here in the United States, all our rights are being given away because it may offend someone’s feelings.
@samegra
@samegra 4 жыл бұрын
"Lo imposible solo tarda un poco más" What a powerful setence!
@hauuau
@hauuau 4 жыл бұрын
This documentary is so powerful. I really hope soon enough perpetrators of crimes against humanity face similar fate in contemporary atrocious dictatorships like Russia, Iran, North Korea, China, etc.
@user-zg7lh5cz1d
@user-zg7lh5cz1d 4 жыл бұрын
Also American war criminals such as Bush,Kissinger, trump and Obama
@waymillion3268
@waymillion3268 4 жыл бұрын
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@bvaldes3703
@bvaldes3703 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting choice of countries, all of them terrible of course, but interesting choice
@viadilnasim6498
@viadilnasim6498 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-zg7lh5cz1d true my friend they act like if they are on the right side because they come from "democratic countries"but they create stupid wars who creates more chaos and misery only for political,military stupid strategies. This world its incredible really.
@quisqueyanguy120
@quisqueyanguy120 4 жыл бұрын
God damnit, THEY HAD THE HELP OF THE CIA.
@pincmin
@pincmin 4 жыл бұрын
The trials were so important to our country, to serve justice first, because there's no other way to heal the wounds if it's not recognized publicly and acted upon. That was the statement and the closure for the entire Nation. I was born during the the 80s and remember the impact of the book Nunca Más, the Complete Report of the National Commission on the Disappearance of People, which compiled hours of testimonies from survivors of detention centers, and also how important it was to learn and discuss in school about the recent history.
@crosstraffic187
@crosstraffic187 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed how Argentinians fought for justice peacefully. Their stategy was genius. Organize and go to the criminals house and let his neighbors know and point him out and yell :" j'accuse!!" In a sense it sounds simple but would never have thought something like that would be really effective. And yet how could authorities counter that? Well done Argentina!
@pincmin
@pincmin 4 жыл бұрын
​@@crosstraffic187 Genius indeed!!! First Abuelas (de Plaza de Mayo), now H.I.J.O.S., they are absolutely national treasures for their work and until we know what happened to each and every single person disappeared and their children, we are in debt to them.
@jorgecesaro8903
@jorgecesaro8903 Жыл бұрын
Enforced dissapearance keeps happening in Argentina. Im a lawyer and suvivor, and I recorded my own kidnapping in a cell phone, just a few minutes before we got taken. The first time it happened was in 2013,, in the Goverment of Cristina Kirchner. i recorded policemen geting into our company at night, with unidentified cars, without a uniform, covered faces, without "legal procedure witnesses"*, and without any kind of warrant. That was 100% against every argentinian of law. The guy leading the assault group was the Chief of the Federal Police, Marcelo Lepwalts, recently sentenced for narcotraffic, and conspirancy. He took our company by assault. 30 people were murdered. This crimes were commited with political suppourt, and still unpunished. Back in the 70s, it was an ideology conflict (comunism vs capitalism). Now its all about narco-politicians, lots of money, and politicians who want to hide his crimes. i was very lucky to be released alive, and I gueess it happens cause many saw when they took me. The criminals behind that were mafias, and (as i sayd) the chief of the Federal police of Santa Fe (the "Argentinian Sinaloa"). They killed more people than the military dictatorship, but everything was silenced cause they control the press and the goverment. I will release my own report in ENGLISH soon. if you care about Human Rights, please stay tuned. Prosecution against military was not about justice. It was about revenge and politicians impunity. They took goverment in the 83, they start robbing, and even his grand sons of this politicians had never ever worked. Every politician becomes a millionaire. The country and the people were sacked. This iis the only country in the World without and Odebretch scandall sentenced.
@bigaaron
@bigaaron 4 жыл бұрын
WE committed war crimes. Don't act like this wasn't a DIRECT result of actions by the US.
@effortlessawareness8778
@effortlessawareness8778 4 жыл бұрын
Yes yes weve heard that time afta time
@bigaaron
@bigaaron 4 жыл бұрын
@@effortlessawareness8778 how can you be so flippant?
@effortlessawareness8778
@effortlessawareness8778 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigaaron I don’t know 🤷‍♂️ I gues if it wasn’t for the US as a superpower i would not have my way of life. Comfortable living. Freedom. China would’ve gone rogue already
@bigaaron
@bigaaron 4 жыл бұрын
@@effortlessawareness8778 millions of ppl have died for your "comfortable" life and hundreds of millions more live in destitution just to maintain it.
@camilospartano6232
@camilospartano6232 2 жыл бұрын
@@effortlessawareness8778 "Hard Times makes Strong Men, Strong Men makes Easy Times, Easy Times makes Weak Men, Weak Men makes Hard Times
@wintersoldier2006
@wintersoldier2006 4 жыл бұрын
So powerful. It moved me to tears even though I've known about the Dirty War. These people didn't forget and fought for justice. I wish my own people had the courage to do something like this. Unfortunately, nobody but a small minority cares about human rights in my country. And nobody raises a voice against state sponsored terrorism. They just accept it as a way of life. Impunity runs so deep in our system.
@jorgecesaro8903
@jorgecesaro8903 Жыл бұрын
Enforced dissapearance keeps happening in Argentina. Im a lawyer and suvivor, and I recorded my own kidnapping in a cell phone, just a few minutes before we got taken. The first time it happened was in 2013,, in the Goverment of Cristina Kirchner. i recorded policemen geting into our company at night, with unidentified cars, without a uniform, covered faces, without "legal procedure witnesses"*, and without any kind of warrant. That was 100% against every argentinian of law. The guy leading the assault group was the Chief of the Federal Police, Marcelo Lepwalts, recently sentenced for narcotraffic, and conspirancy. He took our company by assault. 30 people were murdered. This crimes were commited with political suppourt, and still unpunished. Back in the 70s, it was an ideology conflict (comunism vs capitalism). Now its all about narco-politicians, lots of money, and politicians who want to hide his crimes. i was very lucky to be released alive, and I gueess it happens cause many saw when they took me. The criminals behind that were mafias, and (as i sayd) the chief of the Federal police of Santa Fe (the "Argentinian Sinaloa"). They killed more people than the military dictatorship, but everything was silenced cause they control the press and the goverment. I will release my own report in ENGLISH soon. if you care about Human Rights, please stay tuned. Prosecution against military was not about justice. It was about revenge and politicians impunity. They took goverment in the 83, they start robbing, and even his grand sons of this politicians had never ever worked. Every politician becomes a millionaire. The country and the people were sacked. This iis the only country in the World without and Odebretch scandall sentenced.
@IA-om3my
@IA-om3my 4 жыл бұрын
Very sad, but beautiful to see how people made things move! ❤️
@richiedockery
@richiedockery 4 жыл бұрын
One side note, the term they should be using is State-Terrorism and not Genocide because killing political dissenters is not a criteria of genocide.
@papasmamas1
@papasmamas1 4 жыл бұрын
The RAE dictiinary defines Genocide as: Extermination or systematic elimination of a human group based on race, ethnicity, religion, politics or nationality.
@richiedockery
@richiedockery 4 жыл бұрын
@@papasmamas1 That’s not the UN’s description and their’s is the important one. “ In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” Political dissenters are not included.
@dertbom
@dertbom 4 жыл бұрын
Very powerful story, love the people for standing up for the ones they love!
@JM-ig8mf
@JM-ig8mf 4 жыл бұрын
Argentina’s open wound. So sad.
@hannahg8439
@hannahg8439 3 жыл бұрын
There is so much strength in this movement. The fact that they chose to do this nonviolently and succeed gives me a lot of hope. Democracy can work if we really strive to make it work. Also, never forget the US financed and supported this murderous regime!
@george5955
@george5955 4 жыл бұрын
Lo más triste de este momento actual de Argentina saben que es?....... Es que hay cíudadanos Argentinos y también opositores políticos actuales que niegan la dictadura, niegan las muertes y desapariciones de personas que hubieron en ese momento. Este negacionismo se deben por cuestiones de fanatismos ideologicos, y a la misma vez porque no son buenas personas, son insensibles e irracionales.......obviamente sin generalizar en todas las personas, pero muchas son influenciadas y adoptan estas consignas por cuestiones de fanatismo ideoligico, cuando tendria que ser todo lo contrario,.....porque la democracia es tolerancia, y van más allá de las convicciones ideologícas de cada persona. Por suerte los dictadores fueron condenados a cadena perpetua, y se hizo justicia en cierto modo" Nunca más al genocidio, nunca más al negacionismo. ❤Argentina❤
@mauroa2826
@mauroa2826 4 жыл бұрын
No fue un genocidio, fue una guerra civil entre el peronismo apoyado en la AAA y montoneros. asesinos matando asesinos. Videla siempre estuvo a disposición de Lopez rega
@ricardoralifer5244
@ricardoralifer5244 4 жыл бұрын
Los Montoneros asesinaron niños y secuestraron en condiciones inhumanas a cientos de personas. Mientras los chorros y chantas peronistas K siguen aplicando la justicia privada, ellos en total impunidad apoyan desde el Palacio K a los montoneros, hoy convertidos en ejemplares ciudadanos en total impunidad. No es justicia. Es la continuación de una guerra. Si fuera justicia ambos lados serían castigados. Esta gente afuera de las casas son la continuación de una guerra, no la busqueda de justicia. El comunismo sigue haciendo de las suyas en total impunidad.
@george5955
@george5955 4 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoralifer5244 Que tal ricardo!! ¿Quisiste escribir un comentario general?....O me respondiste a mi por error? Saludos. Abrazo.
@chrisstendler3988
@chrisstendler3988 3 жыл бұрын
Fuera alberto y cristina y todo ese peronismo de mierda
@benitoperez8884
@benitoperez8884 2 жыл бұрын
@@mauroa2826 imaginemos que fue una guerra, por un segundo, siguen habiendo leyes qur protejen a los POW de maltratos, ADEMAS, que el estado tiene el poder de la rama judicial para ENJUICIAR Y ENCERRAR a los criminales, SIN HABLAR, de que por culpa de las juntas nuestras negociaciones por malvinas estan en punto muerto
@Ncma08
@Ncma08 Жыл бұрын
And people are still going to vote for Milei and Villaruel who condone and deny the horrors of the dictatorship
@luisemiliogonzalezberbel2520
@luisemiliogonzalezberbel2520 4 жыл бұрын
No word of US involvement though.
@CB0408
@CB0408 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Argentina is not a neighbor of the US. Washington is closer to Moscow than to Buenos Aires.
@jameskeyes9112
@jameskeyes9112 Ай бұрын
I toured ESMA(the Argentine Navy center where many of the desaparicidos were imprisoned, tortured, executed) back in 2018. We took a cab to the site from our hotel in Palermo Soho. In my group were a couple of good Argentine friends who had lost friends and family members during the Dirty War. Upon learning our destination, the cab driver told us that he has served in the Argentine navy at that site. He said, "We did what we did to save our nation." You could hear a pin drop in the cab all the way to ESMA. There is a significant number of people in Argentina who believe that the junta was necessary and a good thing. I really struggle to understand that attitude.
@agme8045
@agme8045 4 жыл бұрын
9:13 I think you guys forgot to translate this bit! They all scream: “hay que saltar, hay que saltar, el que no salta es militar” it means: “you have to jump, you have to jump, if you don’t jump you are a soldier (part of the military)” I wonder how Americans feel about that 🙂
@Sivah_Akash
@Sivah_Akash 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@briannaoppong-antwi9702
@briannaoppong-antwi9702 Жыл бұрын
What does that mean? Jump to the forklift?
@rocioolivera1258
@rocioolivera1258 Жыл бұрын
All the men, women, pregnant women, children and young people that were tortured and killed. Many sons, grandchildren, sisters, mothers that to this day, are still missing.
@groundswellmultimedia7279
@groundswellmultimedia7279 4 жыл бұрын
By turns a forceful and poignant reminder of the power of collective action and condemnation of those who have caused, and continue to cause, suffering and grief on others.
@McLKeith
@McLKeith 4 жыл бұрын
When these atrocities were going on in Argentina and Chile, America the so called preserver of democracies, did nothing.
@trer04
@trer04 4 жыл бұрын
The CIA acts independently of the American people.
@themroc8231
@themroc8231 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't do nothing. First they trained military officials and personnel from Argentina and all the Latin-american countries to "counter-insurgency" techniques in the "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation" at Fort Benning in Georgia. By "counter-insurgency techniques" they meant how to target, kidnap and torture activists to gather information and dismantle political organizations. Have a look at their graduates list on wikipedia, it's a who's who of all the worst genocide perpetrators of that era. Then they financed the coups and provided strategic support, sometimes military support too.
@themroc8231
@themroc8231 4 жыл бұрын
They also had FBI an CIA agents who toured these countries to teach and demonstrate torture techniques to Latin-american military personnel. They sometimes kidnapped homeless people for that purpose. Have a look at the story of Dan Mitrione, he was one of those. And when he died Sinatra and Jerry Lewis held a benefit concert for his family.
@nicolastrincado9441
@nicolastrincado9441 4 жыл бұрын
Well, they did a lot. They created those atrocities.
@lolalola2592
@lolalola2592 4 жыл бұрын
You must inform yourself. They did something, they supported the genocide
@felipemorelli741
@felipemorelli741 4 жыл бұрын
Just forgot to say that NYT (this very channel's owner) published articles denouncing the 'threat' that elected civilians represented, and how the US was investing in 'democratic solutions' in Latin America. Turns out the solutions were military coups with American support (money and personnel) and NYT's endorsement. Go to NYT archives and search for articles related to these countries in a time range close to their military coups (Brazil, 03/31/1964; chile, 09/11/1973). I think you could have done more to show feelings of mea culpa.
@StephenAndrew777
@StephenAndrew777 4 жыл бұрын
I don't trust The New York times when it comes to complex-sounding conflicts like these.
@StephenAndrew777
@StephenAndrew777 4 жыл бұрын
@@coachking5208 I don't understand the question.
@RoyAH.
@RoyAH. 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible work! Thank you so much for enlightening me. Those poor souls.
@djknucklez1
@djknucklez1 4 жыл бұрын
I love this. Good work!
@MrJohnnyMcLemmon
@MrJohnnyMcLemmon 4 жыл бұрын
It’s painful to see some descendants of the victims of the crimes against humanity in Argentina ignore the work to honor the memory of those we lost in the darkest period of our country. No justice would have been possible without the efforts realized during the democratic return, the CONADEP, the NUNCA MÁS and prosecutor Strassera.
@vinasandrade
@vinasandrade 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulaciones al pueblo argentino! Ojalá tuvieramos movimientos sociales así de fuertes aqui también en Brasil, donde hoy todavía es posible vivir toda una vida como si una dictadura nunca hubiera pasado. Toda una vida sin memória y con zero genocidas condenados.... Es como 1984 de Orwell, donde el pasado fué inventado.
@Janonimo
@Janonimo 4 жыл бұрын
While in Chile, Pinochet died at age 91 in 2006, before trial in almost total impunity (only house arrest), with the ruling left elite of those years protecting him in orden to keep and stay in power.
@gauravamatya9602
@gauravamatya9602 4 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful!
@clintfowler1526
@clintfowler1526 4 жыл бұрын
If we’re being technical, we’ve committed war crimes
@baddreams0919
@baddreams0919 4 жыл бұрын
We all reamamber what the us army did in the death highway in iraq
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 4 жыл бұрын
Argentina was the first country that sent to jail to all those killers and thieves...
@fedvvvv
@fedvvvv 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. And then the released all the convicted terrorists which mostly fled to europe.
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 4 жыл бұрын
@@fedvvvv Convicted? Cuando fueron los juicios que hicieron los militares, porque si decis que fueron condenados es porque fueron sujetos a un proceso judicial, no? 😀
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 4 жыл бұрын
@@fedvvvv Lo que pensé, sos un pelotudito que repite frases de mierda y jamás investiga NADA que pueda desmentir tu relato. Andá a cagar, facho de cartulina.
@jorgecesaro8903
@jorgecesaro8903 Жыл бұрын
Enforced dissapearance keeps happening in Argentina. Im a lawyer and suvivor, and I recorded my own kidnapping in a cell phone, just a few minutes before we got taken. The first time it happened was in 2013,, in the Goverment of Cristina Kirchner. i recorded policemen geting into our company at night, with unidentified cars, without a uniform, covered faces, without "legal procedure witnesses"*, and without any kind of warrant. That was 100% against every argentinian of law. The guy leading the assault group was the Chief of the Federal Police, Marcelo Lepwalts, recently sentenced for narcotraffic, and conspirancy. He took our company by assault. 30 people were murdered. This crimes were commited with political suppourt, and still unpunished. Back in the 70s, it was an ideology conflict (comunism vs capitalism). Now its all about narco-politicians, lots of money, and politicians who want to hide his crimes. i was very lucky to be released alive, and I gueess it happens cause many saw when they took me. The criminals behind that were mafias, and (as i sayd) the chief of the Federal police of Santa Fe (the "Argentinian Sinaloa"). They killed more people than the military dictatorship, but everything was silenced cause they control the press and the goverment. I will release my own report in ENGLISH soon. if you care about Human Rights, please stay tuned. Prosecution against military was not about justice. It was about revenge and politicians impunity. They took goverment in the 83, they start robbing, and even his grand sons of this politicians had never ever worked. Every politician becomes a millionaire. The country and the people were sacked. This iis the only country in the World without and Odebretch scandall sentenced.
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 Жыл бұрын
@@jorgecesaro8903 THIS 👆👆👆 GUY STORY IS FAKE. 😀😀😀 Tremenda fanstasmeada te mandaste, delirante. Anda al psiquiatra.
@shaleeebee
@shaleeebee 2 жыл бұрын
let us not forget operation condor started in chile and spread across the continent-only two countries were not involved
@nromk
@nromk 4 жыл бұрын
This is the type of justice the region needs, like this thing about taking justice in your hands is wrong, we have a judicial system to determine if someone is innocent of the chargers, we have a jail to hold people in jail for. Argentine people fighting for the judicial justice instead of cold blood revenge that we see so often.
@bhobg
@bhobg 4 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary film. Thanks NYT!
@delimar77
@delimar77 4 жыл бұрын
Argentina dio cátedra con este movimiento. Qué siga el escrache!
@mauribonada2425
@mauribonada2425 4 жыл бұрын
#nofueron30.000
@julianarodriguez5875
@julianarodriguez5875 4 жыл бұрын
Un orgullo todo el movimiento. ¡Y pensar que todavía hay gente que niega el genocidio!
@delimar77
@delimar77 4 жыл бұрын
@@julianarodriguez5875 qué fuerte!
@AntonioCostaRealEstate
@AntonioCostaRealEstate 4 жыл бұрын
First the mothers of the Plaza de Mayo, now H.I.J.O.S . Argentinians are a fierce bunch. Gotta tip the hat at them. Call it what you want about them , yet they never let it go. You don’t see Brazilians or Americans being that much consistent on their quest for justice.
@queridaidiotice
@queridaidiotice 4 жыл бұрын
Até hoje no Brasil tem pessoas que estavam envolvidas na ditadura militar atuando na política. Esse assunto é pouco debatido e muita gente simpatiza com esse período.
@ilnigromante666
@ilnigromante666 4 жыл бұрын
E quando essas pessoas são confrontadas elas tem a cara de pau de dizer: "Num gosta, vai pra Venezuela!"
@ricardoralifer5244
@ricardoralifer5244 4 жыл бұрын
Mentira, a comissão da verdade enriqueceu Dilma Roussef com indenizações, enquanto ela não responde pelo guarda do banco que assassinou, seja como pistoleira, ou pior, como chefe de gangue, crime ainda maior. É Dilma, a assassina, que está na total impunidade, porque o comunismo silencia a verdade dos dois lados. É por isso que o PT apóia as Farc, com elas e com Fidel criaram o Criminoso Foro de São Paulo. É por isso que apóiam Maduro como partido depois de suas eleições fraudulentas. É por isso que apóiam a ditadura de partido único de Cuba e usam o dinheiro dos brasileiros pobres para construir o porto de Mariel e apoiar uma ditadura assassina em La Havana.
@IsidroUrquia
@IsidroUrquia 4 жыл бұрын
Un abrazo y gracias por coraje.
@PHlophe
@PHlophe 4 жыл бұрын
Linda Noche !
@dkelban
@dkelban 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing courageous people
@natyinthehouse
@natyinthehouse 3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment that it feels like that could never happen here in the United States. Then I remembered Fred Hampton and other forgotten names of the civil rights era seen as a threat by the government.
@danmartineau1638
@danmartineau1638 4 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. Especially fitting that Videla died in prison.
@Listen-the-Holy-Quran
@Listen-the-Holy-Quran 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content loved it Keep it up thank you for sharing this 🌹🌹🌹👌👌
@Jeannine2007
@Jeannine2007 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo!👏✊ 💪
@RobinHerzig
@RobinHerzig 4 жыл бұрын
Moving example of the power of collective action *The Impossible Just Takes A Little Bit Longer* Combined with the current General Strike action happening in India right now shows us a path which is truly viable
@cedricliggins7528
@cedricliggins7528 4 жыл бұрын
"The wicked shall be the ransom for the righteous; the transgressor for the upright"- Proverbs21:18. Those murdering generals must be brought to justice no matter their age!!!.
@mauribonada2425
@mauribonada2425 4 жыл бұрын
Dude u are sick, you can talk about my country's history that way.
@brandonflowers8597
@brandonflowers8597 4 жыл бұрын
We can thank the us government for this.
@Black5prox
@Black5prox 3 жыл бұрын
this was very powerful
@JoseRamos-ql1gv
@JoseRamos-ql1gv 4 жыл бұрын
La fuerza esta en la unidad, sigan luchando por justicia. #latinosunidos
@briannaoppong-antwi9702
@briannaoppong-antwi9702 Жыл бұрын
Why did the mom say he’d understand sharing the apples when he was older? That the prisoners were in solidarity?
@ted1091
@ted1091 4 жыл бұрын
Very powerful work! Viva Argentina Libre!
@pirimoretukariri6256
@pirimoretukariri6256 4 жыл бұрын
Very powerful story.
@thuukies
@thuukies 3 жыл бұрын
We supported them
@maxpoggerman7396
@maxpoggerman7396 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was good choice to ignore the US's influence in this doco. This clip isn't really about the regime and who sponsored them, it's about the people that were left and what they did.
@trixunix5411
@trixunix5411 4 жыл бұрын
What the US did? Didn’t sign the Rome Statute that founded the ICC in 2002. Like China and Indonesia, BTW. The ICC has 123 members now, but the US is not one of them...
@ryanh3635
@ryanh3635 4 жыл бұрын
And his minister of agriculture is the father of our Queen......
@jeremiasrobinson
@jeremiasrobinson 4 жыл бұрын
Nunca mas!
@luciano2003.
@luciano2003. 3 жыл бұрын
Nunca más peronistas!
@thaisqueiroz5674
@thaisqueiroz5674 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fear that Brazilian military is. To reopening the cases from the dictatorship years. Congratulations to Argentinians that didn’t forget and did understood the importance of charge and imprison those personnel that killed so many because of political differences . Viva a democracia
@naifalharbe4123
@naifalharbe4123 4 жыл бұрын
We feel fear and anxiety about the killer of Jamal Khashoggi, as he became he use another way for killing
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын
Forza justice. ☘️
@omerjameel3524
@omerjameel3524 4 жыл бұрын
I thought to do the same thing in turkey but if I did that I would needed to paint all turkey in red paint
@РусланШелби-т9б
@РусланШелби-т9б Жыл бұрын
Again, thieves in law are slandering Lieutenant General Jorge Videla.
@familiamotarica6616
@familiamotarica6616 4 жыл бұрын
A military man taking down the picture of another military guy, it's t a joke, as long as there is government and police nothing has changed
@gcervatti
@gcervatti 4 жыл бұрын
Quisera que acá en Brasil fuésemos un 10% de lo que son los argentinos para estos temas. Acá se olvida todo y con el gobierno genocida de ahora aún mas
@seidenstickerj
@seidenstickerj 4 жыл бұрын
Similar things need to happen in Spain, Portugal, Greece and many of the countries that suffered from nationalist dictatorships in the EU and around it. And the US (and the rest of the West) needs to stop supporting dictatorships and giving them deals so they keep out displaced people and buy their surplus goods.
@seanbrummfield448
@seanbrummfield448 4 жыл бұрын
Russia should too, right? I mean this never would've happened of both sides kept their cool.
@seidenstickerj
@seidenstickerj 4 жыл бұрын
@@seanbrummfield448 yes. I just didn't include Russia because they are a basically a defective democracy and I'd have to include many other states then. I still believe most western states have working democracies and should adhere to high standards because of that ^^
@matty454
@matty454 4 жыл бұрын
Cara al Sol 👀
@seidenstickerj
@seidenstickerj 4 жыл бұрын
@@matty454 yeah those kinda songs are useful for history lessons and term papers on ideology and music. Some in Germany still like to sing songs that are from the dictatorship (Horst Wesse Lied), which shows that old mass psychoses die slowly I guess.
@milagros77to
@milagros77to 4 жыл бұрын
Great Documentary
@nilsp9426
@nilsp9426 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a sequel to this, where you shed light on US involvement in this. The US press has to acknowledge that it is not just neighbors who commited crime on a massive scale. Think of the first nations, think of Guantanamo, think of the Iraq war, the secret missions of the CIA, Vietnam, the detention of Japanese US citizens during the second world war, the list goes on. Every country has such things in its past. Moral integrity means that you acknowledge that and learn from history. No, this is not whataboutism. The US, including the white house, was involved in this very story, as it was in many others.
@Skatedave21
@Skatedave21 4 жыл бұрын
I hope Stephen Miller is watching this...
@nathasyapramudita6312
@nathasyapramudita6312 4 жыл бұрын
Its happen in indonesia too guys, its called G30SPKI their story oddly enough feel the same, look it up
@Sivah_Akash
@Sivah_Akash 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the "we" in title meant USA!
@balargus319
@balargus319 2 жыл бұрын
While I detest dictators and especially those who directly usurp constitutional rule, I still believe that if the transition back to a republican system was made possible by a Faustian deal of amnesty, then the integrity of our collective word still takes higher priority than the unpunished crimes we knowingly passed over in the plea bargain.
@PunisherFord
@PunisherFord 3 жыл бұрын
Yuri bezmenov. This is a prime example of "Active measures" alot of perpetrators Ethier were tricked into helping the dictatorship, or knew someone who was, but they had to be round up and killed because the dictatorship knew these people would regret putting him in power and start another revolution. This is sad, they were all used, and lost there lives. They didn't deserve this but people have to start educating themselves of examples like this, even if you live in America.
@damarisrodriguez5118
@damarisrodriguez5118 4 жыл бұрын
Horrific.
@smotnick
@smotnick 4 жыл бұрын
While Carter waged his finger at Latin American dictatorships, he gave more aid to the Suharto regime in Indonesia.
@Michael_Maxfield
@Michael_Maxfield 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very moving story. Now do one on the warcrimes of the Bushs, the Clintons, Obama, and Trump.
@queloko24
@queloko24 4 жыл бұрын
Now they became the murderers
@cyrixone2771
@cyrixone2771 4 жыл бұрын
Excelente!!
@PHlophe
@PHlophe 4 жыл бұрын
muy !
@dennismorris7573
@dennismorris7573 4 жыл бұрын
Nunca deberían pasar estas cosas en nuestro mundo - no importe donde, no importa quien.
@zombiecat5019
@zombiecat5019 Жыл бұрын
Pero es la realidad .porque no.lo pueden mostrar? No es eso de lo que trata?
@Trund27
@Trund27 4 жыл бұрын
Never Forget.
@carolynforche6552
@carolynforche6552 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant film, and thank you or making a film that focuses on Argentinians in their efforts to confront those in their midst who have heretofore lived with relative impunity. That the U.S. supported murderous dictatorial regimes throughout Latin America for decades is known; thank you for directing the focus away from the U.S., and centering this movement initiated by those who suffered the horrors. I also liked very much the balance between political analysis and personal narrative.
@seanbrummfield448
@seanbrummfield448 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't Cuba support one in Angola. And the Soviets done it to a bunch of poor countries too.
@alundavies8402
@alundavies8402 4 жыл бұрын
What would have happened if the military junta didn’t send the soldiers to the Falkland Islands?
@suusje004
@suusje004 2 жыл бұрын
In the end they will wipe this also out of history.
@johngalt5181
@johngalt5181 4 жыл бұрын
From the paper who employed Walter Duranty. Hypocrisy runs deep at the times.
@bachvandals3259
@bachvandals3259 4 жыл бұрын
Is pro-democracy and anti-imperialism bad? Wait,... Is he too communist or not communist enough for you?
@sgtcwhatley
@sgtcwhatley 4 жыл бұрын
@@bachvandals3259 he lied to the world about the famine in Ukraine. He protected Stalin's image and received a prize for his biased reporting.
@6Haunted-Days
@6Haunted-Days 2 жыл бұрын
Yea we’re gonna have this in America soon if we DONT WAKE UP AND VOTE!!!! We need to keep DEMOCRACY!!!
@vincentseebeck3373
@vincentseebeck3373 4 жыл бұрын
The poor US if only they had known what was going on there...
@lou3168
@lou3168 4 жыл бұрын
They definitely had an idea this could happen
@MR-wz9zw
@MR-wz9zw 4 жыл бұрын
People should do this to ICE agents
@sgtcwhatley
@sgtcwhatley 4 жыл бұрын
Really? You can compare the two in any way?
@Estuardino71
@Estuardino71 3 жыл бұрын
In Guatemala weapons were provided.
@dns21st
@dns21st Жыл бұрын
Just found out he’s my dads uncle lol 🤯 met him twice as a kid.
@1949cr
@1949cr 2 жыл бұрын
One can only hope we see this happen elsewhere lime Myanmar.
@samvelasatryan9519
@samvelasatryan9519 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you not talk about how Azerbajian is committing war crimes against Armenia
@mazdikhan2556
@mazdikhan2556 4 жыл бұрын
Well they aren't
@coolbluereview
@coolbluereview 4 жыл бұрын
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