AtGames Legends Gamer Pro Review: a Great Retro Gaming Console!

[@ynothump2566]

Wagner just to say a personal thank you. I went ahead and purchased this beauty. With the help on your website, along with Bills Retro channel and PDubs channel I installed Coinopsx and I feel like a teenager again even though I am nearly 55 next month Lol. Love and respect from England UK ❤

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You're very welcome! Thank you so much for your comment, I really appreciate you taking the time to write and that you are enjoying your Legends Gamer Pro. I'll be 54 this year myself, not far behind you 😎 Thank you again from Alabama, USA

[@huzcer]

Where did you purchase one in the UK?

[@ynothump2566]

@@huzcer liberty games

[@jsiqueblue4948]

Thank you for such a detailed review I'm going to be doing exactly what you said regarding the coin ops x

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You are so welcome!

[@kingforaday8725]

Ive mentioned this on other channels but I will occasionally have a heck of a time getting the control deck to connect wirelessly to the core. There have been times I've given up, came back a few days later and its working!!! Usually happens when Im "showing off" the console to a guest !

[@WagnersTechTalk]

When that happens, here are a few things that have worked well for me: wagnerstechtalk.com/algp/#Troubleshooting

[@UltimateTechHub]

I need to get one of these. I would definitely add about a 1000 games to this system and The price is definitely worth it I'm heading to Sam's Club today so if they have one for 100 I will grab it. Nice video John.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thanks Mike! EDIT: Looks like sam's club recently sold out on-line, in-store may be hit-miss. Game Stop has them intermittently, one day they'll be there, the next they're gone but restock a few days later. Another nice thing, that I didn't mention in the video, is that the UI is consistent across all of their Legends products. If you pick this up, then later decide to get a Legends Pinball, Ultimate, etc. you'll already know how to setup the other machines. Anyways, thank you for watching and have a great weekend my friend!

[@UltimateTechHub]

@@WagnersTechTalk I will see if it's a Sam's first because I want to buy and play that day!! Lol. Thanks Jonn for the fantastic information. Your videos are always spot on.

[@ranschuetz1]

I bought one about a month ago and then got a Legends Gamer Mini as well! You mention at the beginning that you can connect via USB to a PC or RetroPie. You show connecting to Retropie in the video. I would love to see a video on how to connect to a PC via USB to run Visual Pinball X.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Setting up VPX/Future Pinball and FX3 are a bit more involved and have dedicated guides and videos (developed with the Legends Pinball in mind). However, you should be able to do that with this using the information below: Pinball FX3 Guide - wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3 PinUP Popper Guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpbi The real difference using the ALGP is that you'll only be using the pinball buttons connected to the PC instead of VIBS (on the ALP). Should work fine. The Joy2Key profile may not work though as there will be some buttons that are being mapped that don't exist or may be incorrect for this setup (front nudge, play, etc.) For that, you'd have to map the buttons manually and/or use the Steam controller settings (in FX3) or within Popper for VPX/FP. Hope that helps!

[@abcdq2]

I was able to connect the Gamer Pro directly to PC with a wired connection, to play Pinball FX3. But I used Xoutput instead of JoytoKey to configure controls. But one bad thing is: I have to configure "in game" button assignments every time I want to play, and I have to push an activate button within Xoutput to allow it to be seen by Pinball FX3 as an Xbox360 controller, so it's not very user friendly to setup pinball, not plug and play....My Pinball FX3 in-game assignment goes like this: Left Flipper -LB Right Flipper - RB 2nd Left flipper - "Left Joystick side bottom button" 2nd Right flipper - "Right Joystick side bottom button" Plunger manual control - D pad down Plunger Button - Button A or "Right Joystick side bottom button" Nudge left - D pad right Nudge right - D pad left Nudge up - D pad up Nudge down - Back(P1) or Rewind Button

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@abcdq2 If using FX3 within Steam, you should be able to configure the buttons within steam itself to avoid having to re-map each time.

[@DamageInc86]

​@@abcdq2did you play anything else besides pinball? I'd just want this to be in a mame machine, and haven't found a video or review yet that shows whether or not this can just be USB into PC, and show up as mouse for trackball, and keyboard for all the switches and buttons, like most arcade sticks behave.

[@reidiford1136]

This is hands down the BEST video I have found on this system. I've been sitting on the fence but now am going to buy it. One question. I want to relive those good old days in the arcade playing classic 1980 arcade games and pinball. Gotta have Donkey Kong, but some reviewers say the joy sticks don't work well on this because they have more than four-way points. What is your take on this? Thank you for this excellent video. The production standards are at a professional level, it is concise and easily understandable, and your presentation is superb. FYI - I worked in network television production for years, so I know what I just watched! ❤️

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I greatly appreciate your feedback, definitely made my day! I try to think of what it is I would like to see/hear in the video, often starting with a bullet list of points then, refining into a segmented/sequential video cuts+script. I have zero professional experience in video/tv production, it's self-taught. To see your comment definitely brought a smile to my face, thank you so much! EDIT: For your question, yes it can be a bit of a pain regarding the joysticks. An 8-way stick does make titles like Donkey Kong, Ms. Pac-Man, etc. a bit challenging to play. While I've not used this solution, there is a 3D printed restrictor set that should alleviate this problem. You can find it here: uplayarcade.com/AtGames-Restrictor-Set-GET-TO-COMPETITION-LEVEL-NOW-p357120467 There are also hardware restrictor gates available as well such as this one from Glen's Retro Show: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXWql5armZ6lntE EDIT 2: Prime Days (on Amazon) starts on 7/12. I don't know what AtGames will have on sale, but you may want to wait until tomorrow to see if it is.

[@DamageInc86]

You absolutely need true proper 4 way joysticks. I found a dig dug style Wico 4 way with leaf switches that feels so good. I haven't been able to install it in anything yet, but just mounting it on a piece of wood and moving it feels very good.

[@abcdq2]

Great Walk thru on the Gamer Pro! I've been following your channel all year, and really glad you have finally received a Gamer Pro and giving it it's own respectable review. I've always thought it was a better device at $100 than the Mini since it included the pinball buttons and trackball...almost as good as the Ultimate machine at a 1/5 the price. I also made a wiki guide for the Gamer Pro with everything I could think of over at "SD". So it's always good to get new guides for setting this up!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you! After being impressed with the value of the Gamer Mini, it made sense to pickup the Pro. It was the last Legends product I didn't have a guide for. Please post a link to your Wiki here and I'll be happy to check it out and link to it!

[@abcdq2]

@@WagnersTechTalk It seems every time I try to link it, it gets erased, I will try again later. I made the wiki since I thought it was great value and purchased 3 of these for different rooms and in case any of them break down.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

It may be YT that's blocking it, please e-mail me at the address shown here: wagnerstechtalk.com/contact/

[@abcdq2]

@@WagnersTechTalk I sent you an email with that info about Gamer pro wiki.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Got it added here: wagnerstechtalk.com/algp/#Resources , thanks for sharing! I've not read through all of it yet - you've got quite a bit of info. there. I appreciate your contribution to the community and happy to be able to link to your hard work.

[@recensioniveloci]

Great review! Short and precise. It will be useful for me to present this product to the Italian public 😅😅

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Glad it was helpful!

[@johnnysnags9101]

So i picked one of these up like new but without the core. Am trying to use with a to a cable hooked to pc to play mame. Can get controls mapped but trackball will not respond at all in mame. Ive put mice control on in settings for mame but nothing. The mouse works great on pc but wont show up at all in mame. Ive loved your channel and everytime I ask about this issue Im directed to you. So any help you can provide would be great. Im really looking to play golden tee on my projector screen with this controller and pedestal. Its perfect for what I need but I cant get trackball to work. Please help and keep up great work. Love the channel.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I'll be honest, I don't think I ever tried the trackball in MAME on the Gamer Pro. I have mine currently stored so can't do a quick test (I'm currently focused on the ALP 4KP series). The trackball should get picked up as a mouse, it does with the Arcade Control Panel and I'm sure the electronics are similar. It might be a mame-specific configuration needed. One thing you may want to try is to use RetroBat ( wagnerstechtalk.com/retrobat/ ) under Windows and see if it handles the trackball configuration/setup for you. I did use a GRS Trackball with MAME that should operate pretty much the same way. You'll find what I did for that in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqa9mX-aiK1kjKc . Hope some of that helps, sorry I don't have a direct/exact answer. It would take some experimentation.

[@johnnysnags9101]

Just hearing back is good enough for me. I really appreciate it sir. I will certainly watch the videos you recommended and let you know how it went. Thanks again so much for taking the time for me. @@WagnersTechTalk

[@johnnysnags9101]

Just letting you know it worked. The trackball was picked up in batocera. Man, cant thank you enough. Happy gaming my friend, 1,000 thanks.

[@JTCT371]

Wow listening to this entire video is going to be very helpful. Thankyou for that...subscribed.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you, I appreciate the support! I hope it helps you out and makes it more fun. I have a bunch of different guides here to help with all kinds of tech stuff: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides . Just making sure you have all the info. you need to jump right in! You'll be techie in no time 👍😎

[@JTCT371]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for the encouraging words, I hope so! Lol

[@STR82DVD]

Great content lad. I'd be all over this at $100 but I've already got a x-arcade tank stick.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you Hunter, totally get it. What are your thoughts on the x-arcade tank stick? I've read a few reviews that rate it highly.

[@STR82DVD]

@@WagnersTechTalk Lad, I've got to tell you that they don't call it a tank stick for nothing - it's built like a tank. I pair it with my Nvidia Shield Pro 2019 and you've got instant retro happiness! 😉

[@abcdq2]

@@STR82DVD You could still grab one of the Gamer Pros, and use it with your Tank Stick for the 4 player games and setting up Coinopsx on the Gaming Core puck. I saw the Tankstick for as low as $130, but I was too slow to pull the trigger, and it went back up to $200.

[@STR82DVD]

@@abcdq2 Very good point actually. Thanks lad!

[@linuxlover_8436]

@@abcdq2 do they ever go on sale, or was that a one time sale? I was considering one, but saw a recently released atari fight stick that glen featured and kiodiekin also reviewed. It is only single player, but that is preferrable to me in case I want to take it somewhere. It also has a spinner and trackball. At $200 it is quite a bit, but w/in the general cost of sticks that seem similar in quality. The jury is still out on how friendly it is to mod/upgrade. I stopped considering the X-arcade as they only offer a 2 player model it looks like. Their latest 2 player model tankstick looks good w/a few add'l features, but this ALG Pro seems like a better deal for the money afaict.

[@ThomasGrillo]

Thanks for the video. I've just ordered this system, and am hoping against hope, it doesn't come with the dreaded CoinopX, and Sauce killing update. Maybe I'll be able to kill the wifi before it has a chance to get that far. LOL

[@carlo1132]

Mine just showed up, charging and waiting to use it! CoinOpX soon but I am confused about the other offerings 7800 games for 55 bucks, thats almost what the good usb stick from Samsung cost? I have the image downloaded 65gig, thanks for all your hard work and excellent videos!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Awesome and congrats! Hope this video and guide help you get the most out of it. Let me know what you think once you've had a chance to try it out. Also, if you find anything missing in the guide that you'd like to see added, don't hesitate to let me know.

[@colindunn9964]

16:45 Do unpowered USB 3.0 hubs work reliably with these? Most guides to the ALU/ALP recommend a powered USB hub. I would want to do a direct USB connection for the controller to the Core, and have a USB drive for FlashDriveX/CoinOpsX.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I've used this same hub inside the ALU (for BitPixel to install internally into the cabinet, see here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alu/#Legends_BitPixel ) and this hub with the Gamer Pro without issue. However, on the ALU for the top panel USB ports, I only use those ports for OTG/USB drive. In my testing over the last week, this hub+USB stick (FDX and COX partitions) and Control Panel worked just fine connected to the core.

[@abcdq2]

Occasionally I thought powered hubs may load the more demanding games better, but it may just be my imagination. The biggest factor may be the USB 3.0 speed and higher specced usb drives and reliability to withstand the hot temperatures (good choice is Samsung memory drives). Some hubs may work better than others, due to the heat tolerances. I've been using a generic ebay usb 3.0 powered hub, but other good brand models were Sabrent and Anker like in the video.

[@jimforeman9829]

Great video! Any tips on how to play 4 players with 2 gamers pros. I haven't had any success. They both connect to 1 core but both units just control player 1 and player 2

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I don't have any tips nor have I tried two Gamer Pro's in a 4-player configuration (I only own one Gamer Pro). You might try asking on the reddit forums, someone else may have a suggestion for you: www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate/ . Additionally, the QuadPlay may be an option also, it can be connected to the core or the core max: wagnerstechtalk.com/alqp

[@JTCT371]

I just got this....Its pretty cool. Haven't explored all its features....joysticks are whats to be expected. Theyre functional...track ball seems cheap.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you for your feedback, definitely check out the guide page for more information (link in the video description). Hope you enjoy it!

[@JTCT371]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thankyou! High tech I am not....should have seen me trying to pair up everything! 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@victormercado4478]

So you think a 'spinner' can be added, if so would you be able to show how it would be done? Excellent vid!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I've not tried adding a spinner to the Gamer Pro. Most games that require a spinner can be played fine with a trackball (I often prefer a trackball over a spinner). However, not sure if this would work (haven't tried it), but the GRS push-pull spinner may fit in one of the button holes: www.amazon.com/GRS-USB-Button-Hole-Spinner/dp/B08HNB5933 . Might want to ask Glen about that here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact . Let me know if you hear something back (or not).

[@tonyd5151]

@@WagnersTechTalk Another youtube member successfully modded his Gamer Pro, but he drilled an extra hole for the Spinner instead of removing one of the buttons >> kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5aUhat8Z7R9hbc

[@derekswitzer9624]

I don't suppose you have a joy2key profile for the Legendss Gamer Pro? I'm trying to set it up to use with Pinup Popper

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I don't have one specifically mapped/tested for the Legends Gamer Pro. However, you should be able to tweak this one as-needed: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpbi/#Arcade_Control_Panel_Profile

[@derekswitzer9624]

@@WagnersTechTalk awesome! Thx!! I got most going and will grab this too for my ALP 😎👍

[@chriscarmack1016]

Do you have to use the core to connect to the legends ultimate? I would like to put the pro into my cabinet and use the core for my tv and onesauce. Thanks

[@WagnersTechTalk]

The core can be connected to any HDMI video device, your TV/Monitor, etc.

[@8kgamerleo169]

How do you power off the arcade theres no power button ? would appreciate any help

[@WagnersTechTalk]

There isn't a switch, to power it off you have to unplug it. However, I used a few of these: amzn.to/3jC889i. There may be cheaper options if you want to save a few $, but I'm pretty sure this is the one I bought (I searched my Amazon History and found it). Then, I realized I was smart enough to add it in the video description too lol. Funny I didn't look there first though.

[@8kgamerleo169]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks alot i was confused never seen nothing like this.

[@ryanscott7550]

after a year of playing my joystick is wanky . do i just need to tightin the screws or do i need to change the springs? the joystick loose

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Hi Ryan, I've not had to adjust mine at this point, likely not the best one to answer. You may instead want to post your question here: www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate . You'll likely get several suggestions.

[@dallase1]

No longeravalible for 99.99 anywhere, Not at Sam's Club, all they have is the Mini, Not at Walmart, it's 225, not at AtGames, it's 250,not Amazon it's 200, on E-Bay they had 2 different sellers selling one for 150 plus 25 shipping. Right now there is one that has 1 bid on it for 123 plus 24 shipping and I think at one time it had a buy it now price of 169.99. Just found another one for 145 plus 24 shipping or Best Offer and it's a brand new, never used, and never removed from plastic packaging and the seller only opened the box to take pictures of it. Sadly I let one get away that was 100 I went to ask a question about it and before I could even ask the question it got sold. Grrrrrrr!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You know, as soon as I make a video mentioning them available on Game Stop for $99 they sell out. Happens every darn time 😀 They do re-stock from time to time, I'd definitely keep an eye out for them. Also, AtGames will be selling their devices at a number of retailers late next month and in June. If interested, this is the info. I was given: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-news/#New_Retailers

[@dallase1]

The best deal would be on a Legends Pro with Trackball and you could add a USB Button Hole Spinner and Tron Joystick later( nu putting the spinner where the rewindbutton was)since it's impossible or very hard to add a Trackball to a system with only a Spinner and Joystick on it.

[@denanop3334]

How you get the flippers to work? For some reason mines not working.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

There are two screws on either side that hold the button assembly to the side of the Gamer Pro. Make sure the pins at the back of the button assembly aren't bent or missing. After you plug it in, launch a pinball table and it should work fine. If not, you can reach out to AtGames support here : www.atgames.net/arcades/contact/

[@MrPAWBowens]

Mine worked but after I connected it to my computer it stopped connecting to core. It still works with my pc but does not even work with core even if using the usb cables.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Make sure you disconnected bluetooth from your PC to the panel. It may be connecting there and why it's not connecting to the core.

[@MrPAWBowens]

@@WagnersTechTalk I do not have bluetooth on my PC but it is working now.

[@YancyMailes-z3x]

Do you have a copy of Adonx? The atgames link is dead. Thanks.

[@rotcataergeht]

can you add snes, mame, gba roms on usb stick to play?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes, for adding Arcade games please see here: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-coinopsx . For the rest, please see the pinned comments here: www.reddit.com/r/FansOfsaUCE/

[@Metal-Josh]

Can the Legends Gamer Pro be used on a PS3 or a Switch?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Not sure, I don't own either.

[@lonster3000]

Could you give a little more detail on hooking up a raspberry pi or pc to this? I have done it on the ALU, so I imagine it’s not too different. But where does the hdmi out from the Pi go? Directly to the tv/monitor or into the core?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Sure, please see the guide page here: wagnerstechtalk.com/algp/#Connect_to_a_Raspberry_Pi_USB Basically, the Pi will connect to your TV/Monitor and the panel will connect to the Pi. The core won't be used if you use the panel with a PC/Pi or some other device.

[@lonster3000]

@@WagnersTechTalk already found your guide, thanks. Your website is a great resource. I really like the idea of cutting out the AT software and just using this panel with a Pi or a PC. I might end up selling my ALU and going this route.

[@arcadeguy781]

I bought one recently, but I can't get it to work on my core max. I tried both USB and Bluetooth. I'm wondering if it's a firmware issue or a loose board

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Should be able to pair them, please see here for some steps that may help: wagnerstechtalk.com/algp/#Connect_to_ALU_or_other_Legends_Product

[@splatman2]

Great Channel though. Unfortunately these items seem to be out of stock in all of Florida and south Georgia :(

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thanks! Yeah, shortly after the video is released they sell out again. I've been watching it for about a month, they sell out, then restock (rinse and repeat). I'll be keeping an eye out for other locations to find one and have a recommendation here: wagnerstechtalk.com/algp/#Purchase_Locations See if that helps, I've seen it happen about 3-4 times times. If anyone else finds a new source let me know, I'll add it to the guide for others.

[@beausmith08]

What do you guys play this on? Just a coffee table?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

A coffee table would make it easier, certainly. It's fairly large.

[@roggie77777]

By any chance does it have the game Frontline

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes it does, it's built-in. The full game list may be found here if you want to see what else is included: legendsultimate.atgames.net/arcade/assets/Legends-Gamer-Pro-Game-List.pdf

[@WagnersTechTalk]

If you like pinball, there is also a FrontLine TAITO pinball volume you can purchase/add to the unit as well. Here' I've fast-forwarded my review to show that table, if interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZS3kqqebNuYqKM

[@roggie77777]

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[@AXEL-oq2mi]

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[@WagnersTechTalk]

This guide should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-coinopsx/

[@hakimsekkat]

Bravo

[@Cormac_YT]

Awesome channel bro your content keeps getting better! I left a like and a sub and we should defo collab sometime 🤟🔥

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Much appreciated, thank you for watching!

[@ajcaldecott3840]

Hi everyone out there in gamer land. Can anybody help me out and tell me if I would be able to use this on my hyperspin pc? I'm trying to slowly build an arcade machine so thought I'd start with my pc and add parts from there. This would be perfect so I'd like to know if anybody has done this successfully? Thanks everyone 😊