AtGames Legends Pinball Mod - Adding a DMD Screen

[@cooltoy]

Have you tried OTG with your Legends Pinball yet? Let me know about your experience in the comments down below!

[@Roadsurfer2k11]

Please do a vid on your wiring hookup on your Simpsons. We have the ALP and ordered Atgames Vibs board. Saw both your simpsons vid and Kongs custom box but nothing about how it's wired to the new switchable board where you don't need to swap cables for stock setup

[@Ur2ez4me81]

Even for a $100 it’s worth the upgrade plus it gets rid of that ugly at games logo 😆

[@troymcdonald]

Did you ever do the video on hiding the OTG cords and all? Would love to see it. Thanks

[@marknorville9611]

@@troymcdonald Nothing is on his channel on how to do this, and it has been around eight months now since this video. I hope he does it one day, as hopefully in the future I will be getting one of these as they are just being released in the UK this January.

[@KongsRUs]

well done! I got other plans for my back box, but kudos for showing one of the easier ways to add a DMD

[@PapaBradsGaming]

PDubs has theRachel board. I am gonna wait for that. You are a great modder Doug. Always great to see your work in action.

[@TampaTec]

looks awesome, I wished atgames already had this installed 👍

[@cooltoy]

Completely agree!

[@davysmith8569]

always awesome Doug! i may try this with velcro just to keep it all stock with minimal damage, but what a nice look!

[@cooltoy]

Not a bad alternative

[@evolutionated1125]

I did it with double sided tape clips the HDMI or usb cable is anoying though(don't Renner which one is the one that stocks out)

[@garogercade7850]

Wow! That DMD looks great! You are the master of the pinball mods.

[@MikeGameKillaMGK]

I did this about a month ago it works great. They dont seem to have any of the screens on Amazon anymore with the monitor shortage out of china. But im glad you made the video ive been giving people instructions on this for a few weeks im glad you made a video now i can just send them a link.👍

[@cooltoy]

it's really been unfortunate with the screen shortage out of China these past few months. Between that and the graphics card shortage going round, prices are sky rocketing.

[@sspotter1978]

Wow! Thanks for taking the time to do this. Easy!

[@cooltoy]

Hope it helps 👍

[@hersheysquirtz7916]

Thank you Doug, I have been loving my Legends Pinball with your back box mod and OTG. This is exactly what I needed. Ordering now.

[@cooltoy]

Glad I could help 👍

[@davysmith8569]

you feel any lag? the people in the atgames facebook group claim its there, i have yet to see it or cant

[@hersheysquirtz7916]

@@davysmith8569 I do see it but it’s not killing my experience. I guess I am just used to it.

[@davysmith8569]

@@hersheysquirtz7916 glad you feel that way, i really cant tell, these guys must have an eye for it. I do notice after I play fx3 and go back to stock that the stock tables ball feels floaty.

[@ritualdelo]

You never cease to amaze me ... Nice job brotha ....

[@cooltoy]

much appreciated

[@alevcimen4891]

You really know your stuff Doug! I wish I was savvy like you...maybe in my next life

[@cooltoy]

I'm just obsessed with learning how things work, once I figure out the basics of how everything goes together and function, then my head starts to come up with ideas on how to improve things. It's all just trial and error.

[@alevcimen4891]

@@cooltoy you’re the Bruce Lee of modding for sure!

[@Dsuds23]

I have to say your arcade1up 32 in monitor mod is hands down better. Totally not being biased at all. Lol. Great video Doug.

[@shreddyvedder]

That’s next level brother! Excellent work!

[@cooltoy]

Thank you so much!

[@EarthMonsterAZ]

PDubs got the board. Looks like I will definitely help with the backglass switching. Great video man!

[@jddvgs69]

Hi. How you connect the dmd screen? You connect it to the second PC or to the HDMI Vibs board?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very cool! Haven't gotten to the PC moding yet but looking forward to checking it out.

[@cooltoy]

it's got it's pros and cons, but overall it's been a an enjoyable experience.

[@hollywoodpolo9872]

Doug thank you for the very informative and detailed video! The DMD looks great and adds alot to the machine.

[@cooltoy]

I think it’s pretty snazzy 😄

[@Danosore]

Doug, another cool video and always great production value. You should do the chair twist around intro for all your videos!

[@cooltoy]

I doubt I’m sinister enough to pull off a good Mr. Burns style evil boss chair spin around intro

[@CompleteGeekTV]

Looks very nice! Well done. Im still waiting to add something Simpsons to my arcade area. You know I'm getting that Simpsons cab when released

[@cooltoy]

I can't say no to The Simpsons

[@Numminz]

Would this DMD screen work with the video board sold by Atgames? Im just a little confused by how you get all three displays working via otg with the right displays fitting on each when using fx3 or virtual pinball.

[@Bruce661]

Great video Doug- thanks for posting!

[@cooltoy]

My pleasure, hope it helps someone out there one way or the other.

[@ThomasGrillo]

Very cool! Thanks for showing how to install this DMD monitor. :)

[@cooltoy]

No problem!

[@MichaelSmith-fd9ec]

Great looking Mod! Every time I watch you mod these pinball kits the green from envy cannot be hidden. Have you reconsidered being my best friend?

[@BazookaJoe03]

Got the screen, hope to try this out next week!

[@cooltoy]

Happy modding, let me know how it turns out for you

[@magius74]

@Cooltoy, Hey Doug, just following up on OTG and a comment posted on your previous video. I was able to get plunger working by using x360ce. Works with Pinball FX2 & 3, Future Pinball and Visual Pinball. It's kinda weird and long and involved. Had to map plunger to the the left and right analog sticks in order to make it work with all emulators. Also had to setup an 50% Anti-Dead zone on both in order to get full range on the plunger. Also still need to use xpadder (or joy2key) to map nudge in Future Pinball. Also Also, on some Future Pinball tables the plunger doesn't come back with enough force to launch the ball, wonder if it is the way some tables are made...... Anyway, it's a lot off weirdness to setup but it is possible and it works pretty well once set up. Let me know if you have any questions. But yeah, check out x360ce, maybe it could work for you, or anyone else reading this have problems getting OTG working with their PC.

[@gagcar]

Stupid question .. How do you get Input to the dmd ? I have a vibs board My laptop has only 1 hdmi out. How do I get the upper display, Playfield , and dmd to all work ?

[@marly57000]

If i understand : need 2 VIBS (one for the DMD and one for otg) ?

[@TheBigblue0911]

Oh wow!! That looks great! I'm so glad you did this video. Just to clarify, you are using the same controller board the screen came with correct?

[@cooltoy]

Yes, using the same stock controller board that was mounted to the back casing of the 8” lcd. I simply removed the back casing from the equation

[@crazycarlschillchamber]

Good vid as always Doug.

[@cooltoy]

thank you very much Carlos!

[@saintsinister8597]

Mr. Cool Toy, is there an extension for the ribbon cable on the monitor to the board that you know of ? The ribbon cable on my monitor is VERY short , and I already mounted my Vibs board at center . So need a little more leangh to go around it ! 😖

[@cooltoy]

Not that I am aware of.

[@Matulaboolah]

Very cool mod!!! I’d like to connect the ALP to Bluetooth headphones. You are very knowledgeable and might just be able to point me in the direction in finding a compatible USB for Bluetooth audio?

[@DJ_Blaker]

Epic Upgraded! Nicely done

[@cooltoy]

Glad you think so!

[@russellmay9841]

I know this is old but which is the best of the LCD’s do you recommend? Thanks

[@retrolizardscustomarcades]

Nice work man!

[@cooltoy]

Thanks!

[@OriginalSwagGaming]

Is there a way to hide the hdmi and the usb or whatever that other cable is . Can the inputs be unscrewed and left inside

[@TRAMGFB]

How do you get the South Park/TMNT/Batman games on the Legends Pinball Machine? Is there a guide about them?

[@cooltoy]

Connect a PC to the Legends Pinball via OTG

[@hollywoodpolo9872]

Doug what size/long length ribbon cable could I buy that would be compatible with my DMD screen and allow me to just lift the backup up after I've unscrewed everything so I can just slide the cable underneath the backbox and connect it the board? Thanks so much for your help!

[@TT-jl1qs]

Awesome that looks really good!

[@cooltoy]

thank you!

[@scottj.7639]

Awesome glad to see this is possible COOLTOY! Very excellent tutorial, thank you.

[@cooltoy]

I’m happy to help out where I can 👍

[@ericpruess9294]

Tried OTG today and have the frame skipping issue. Pretty much unplayable.

[@forgottonone666]

I love it.. I assume you can use any LCD that fits the space as long as it has HDMI Like this one 9 inch 800*480 for Raspberry pi PC TTL matrix screen display LCD HDMI Monitor AT090TN10 12 small driver board Audio controller

[@cooltoy]

Correct, you can use pretty much any LCD you wish and aren’t restricted at all to use the one I went with

[@forgottonone666]

@@cooltoy what's the max width between the speakers?. I haven't received my unit yet. The Brick keeps changing my delivery date

[@freebird1963]

Not related to your mods but you know of any lighted buttons for the coindoor or a coindoor replacement to add lighted buttons to the ALP ? I can't find anything.

[@cooltoy]

Nope, not seen any myself

[@funtyes1970]

i try vibs board but some reason I'm getting all kinds of colors flashing display on my backbox . but backbox works great if I'm using atgames pinball games . i did a little researched I'm not only person not having this problem

[@adamkalb1412]

Brilliant Review ❤️🏁👍Looks Beautiful

[@cooltoy]

thanks Adam!

[@davidmartinelli9952]

How do you get fx3 to show dmd on display? I figured out VPX… but cant get fx3 to work

[@cooltoy]

You have to toggle it in the cabinet settings of FX3

[@greghornbacher8079]

looks great CoolToy. do you know if AtGames will come out with a upgraded machine with more mods? I would pay for more bigger screen and dmd and extra bells and whistles. you need a good quality pinball to play the VPX tables

[@cooltoy]

I'm sure they will have their own upgraded parts and pieces available at a later date. Whether or not they choose to make a completely new upgraded machine is still up in the air I imagine.

[@cdf12345]

What are the specs of the pc pushing this ? Specifically the video card you’re using?

[@ClefCrescendo]

I’ve seen a lot of added DMDs where it fills the screen like yours, but does so by stretching the source vertically. Is this something that plugging into this screen does automatically? Or can you adjust the Aspect Ratio of the DMD?

[@cooltoy]

I resized the DMD image myself inside of VPX

[@pcostel1]

@@cooltoy you should resized more, the aspect ratio is incorrect. There should be horizontal black bars on the top and the bottom. If you can get the aspect ratio right this will look real pro.

[@TheSketch27]

Is there a good site that references how to configure (3) monitors ? I can only seem to find it for 2 (bacakglass w/DMD and playscreen) not sure how to break out the DMD into third screen option.

[@JohnSmith-mk8hz]

I'm not positive but I think you select the location of, and/or turn off/on the DMD in the FX3 options.

[@GenGamesUniverse]

That's pretty Awesome CoolToy, have you tried JP's mod of STERN Avengers? He's literally changed it to look like the comic variant. Same with the STERN Spider-Man mod.

[@cooltoy]

I’ll need to check that out, I’ll really enjoyed all the other JP creations I’ve played to date

[@playingmax]

Can u post ur table setting under fx3. Thanks.

[@saiyanraoh5109]

I am getting my Pinball machine next week and I can’t wait for it. When it comes to drilling that thin line for the ribbon cable, what kind of drill bit did you use for that? Or if you could point to the tool you used, that would be great as well. Thanks!

[@cooltoy]

Standard Dremel works well

[@TalonVI]

Is it not possible to just loosen the back box and lift it to slide the cable under then just re-tighten the back box? I don't have any experience with this type of cable so I don't really know how delicate they are but as long as the back box isn't cutting into the cable I would think it would be fine and require no cutting of the back box. Thanks for the video and mod idea!

[@cooltoy]

cable provided isn't long enough to go all the way under the back box and then come up to connect into the board.

[@Iceman51686]

Great job man! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@cooltoy]

Thanks a lot!

[@danalewis9302]

Hey Doug would love to buy that 8” screen from you if your not using it any longer. I saw your Simpsons mod and that looked awesome I’m inspired.

[@ztothepunk]

Do the pc pinball options not emulate these scoreboard functions on their own?

[@cooltoy]

They do, but most people prefer to have the scoring on its on screen vs laid on top and covering up portions of the back glass art

[@puddydice]

Rookie question... Using a PC or laptop to run fx3 on the Alp, how do you get this mini screen to just display the dmd info? Do I need a HDMI splitter as well? I'm still waiting on the Rachael board as well. Thanks for all your cool videos!

[@cooltoy]

you would simply adjust the DMD settings in FX3 under the cabinet mode options

[@mleonard724]

So with the vibs board, this lcd screen and a pc hooked up running fx3, is it possible to have all 3 displays (dmd screen for score and animations, backglass for artwork and of course main screen for playfield) all displayed at the same time? Would that still require 2 or 3 hdmi outs from the pc?

[@josephw3855]

I'm trying to figure out the settings needed as well. Can't seem to find the answer anywhere lol

[@gagcar]

Hi Cooltoy, how many outputs do you have on your pc ? I’m being told that I need 3 : One to dmd One to vibs card One to top left front of playfield? Is that true? How does this work for all the laptops out there that I know only have one hdmi output and have this running ?

[@cooltoy]

@@gagcar you shouldn’t be trying to use a laptop for a virtual pinball pc setup. You won’t have enough power to properly play the games and display multiple screens simultaneously.

[@wryker]

Since they're already cables coming from the front left for USB & HDMI: I just used doublesided velcro tape and mounted my Fire HD8 tablet (same size and resolution as the one you have) to the back between the speakers so no cutting, drilling, taking the tablet apart etc etc. A lot easier than what you did - but I do have one cable coming from the side of the Tablet to give it constant power. I trust you had to adjust the table settings to move the DMD from the backglass to the tablet? And not sure how you're accessing it - Spacedesk maybe (that's what I'm using).

[@josephw3855]

I have a tablet and spacedesk. What settings do I need to get the DMD to display on the tablet? Thanks!

[@wryker]

@@josephw3855 that shoulld be in the video

[@josephw3855]

Nah there's nothing about the settings on the video. I was asking what settings you're using cause I am trying to get it to work with Spacedesk as well. Just not having any luck with getting the DMD to display on my tablet...

[@wryker]

@@josephw3855 using the app you simply install the server on your PC, the app on the tablet, start server, open app and connect it to the pc/server/ip address.

[@josephw3855]

@@wryker I did all that. I just can't get the DMD from FX3 to display on the tablet for some reason

[@FloridaKeysPirate]

The upgraded back glass will probably just have the switch box built into it.

[@cooltoy]

It would be silly not to

[@koopsta3696]

Do we know if this will be compatible with the Rachel board AtGames is coming out with? Would love to mod it but was hoping for that board.

[@cooltoy]

Any screen that has HDMI will work with the “Rachel” board as all the board does is switch from one input source to another

[@koopsta3696]

@@cooltoy sweet! Thank you so much.

[@TheManPuntedBaxter]

The link for the WIMAXIT 8" monitor goes to a product page for a 7" monitor. Is that the same one used? It's also 1024x600 and not 1280x800 mentioned in the video. Whatever screen was used in the video looked perfect to me, so I'd love to make sure I got the exact same thing. Thanks!

[@cooltoy]

unfortunately for unknown reasons it looks like the seller has updated their Amazon listing and replaced the previous product (8" version) with a completely different 7" version like you mentioned. I can not find any other listings of an 8" version like the one I purchased on Amazon sadly. The only place I see the same one listed now is here: www.aliexpress.com/i/32993641797.html

[@DanLShane]

@@cooltoy Not available there any longer either. Hope another likely model shows up, as I really want to do this mod now that my VIBS is on order.

[@JamesBrock72]

@@DanLShane did you even find an alternative model that is similar? Most I find are not going to work this way.

[@DanLShane]

@@JamesBrock72 Yes, but I went an easier route that required no drilling or cutting. See my comment below from a month ago.

[@JamesBrock72]

@@DanLShane lol trying to find your comment in this thread and I am not seeing it

[@criscolove]

Hello nice video ! Did you connect the "Micro USB Powered" directly on your PC ? (When i do that that my screen stay black with some flash light every 2 seconds) (sorry for my english)

[@cooltoy]

Yes I did

[@criscolove]

@@cooltoy Thank you for the answer ;) ! Maybe my screen is dead , when i connect it on my pc one led turn red and the blue one flash flash and flash again ! Btw i love your channel !

[@rushmore3927]

Hello! What male to male USB cable are you using and the length? Many reports are it does not work well at all. I'm going to post this to others as well.

[@cooltoy]

It’s in the video description box already

[@rushmore3927]

@@cooltoy Hah! Forgot that you are thorough!

[@kimberlythomas182]

How do I see the links to the 8” lcd monitor to use for the DMD in legends pinball?

[@cooltoy]

Links are in the video description box

[@kimberlythomas182]

@@cooltoy thanks! The DMD is a great mod and I’m definitely doing that. Need that Rachael board though!

[@kimberlythomas182]

I see the 8” is no longer available with 1280 res. Will the 7” 1024 x 600 work good enough? I see other 1200 ones about there but they are like $130

[@BrigetteSinging]

So the controller board needs its own micro usb power source?

[@cooltoy]

Yes, it powers the lcd

[@TheMT911]

Can you recommend a graphics card to run with a setup like yours? I was looking into purchasing GeForce GTX 1060 6GB. Is this sufficient?

[@cooltoy]

I’m using the 1050ti myself

[@argniests5357]

can you list the specific DMD part number from amazon. I think its M828rpi Is this the one you used: M828rpi- WIMAXIT Portable HDMI Monitor, 8 Inch IPS 1280x800 DIY Display Micro USB Powered SKD LCD Surveillance Screen PMMA Housing for Raspberry Pi 3/3B+/4B/PS4/Xbox360

[@cooltoy]

It’s already linked in the video description box

[@argniests5357]

@@cooltoy sometimes?? I think amazon may automatically link something else? if the original product was out of stock. Which some people said. So I just wondered if you would verify the link is still correct to the one you used in the video.

[@Teremei]

I am about to connect my computer to my atgames. I already have the pinball VPX working. And I have all the parts I need. I'm going 2 screen at first. But question, I'd like to buy an actual dot matrix display, because that will be more bright and vibrant than a cheap monitor screen. will this tutorial be relevant to that or do I need to find a specific tutorial for that? I imagine many of the steps are the same.

[@cooltoy]

steps would be the same assuming whatever Dot Matrix display you use has HDMI input

[@Teremei]

@@cooltoy Spank you very much COOLTOY!

[@ien2023]

OMG..the poor ALP. What did you do Douglas? Why can't you just slip it under the hole? I think I'll stick with my DMD I slip under the hole till atgames figure out the backglass hdmi hot switch situation. Don't wanna be making any holes till there are more options with the backglass and dmd screen.

[@BrigetteSinging]

Under what hole? Can you explain?? Thanks

[@MikeGameKillaMGK]

Great video

[@cooltoy]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@gibsonplayer8785]

Hey cooltoy, wondering if this would work? AU Optronics 15.4" 30pin 1280x800 Laptop Matte LCD Screen

[@cooltoy]

Technically it probably will, however it would be too big to fit on the back box without covering up the other things already there.

[@typeXJuggernaut]

Thats awesome I will make mine flush