Check Out This Deluxe Backbox for AtGames Legends Pinball!

[@BuyStuffArcades]

Awesome review as always - thanks for the kind words and glad you like it! Our current wait list for the 2.0 Backboxes is 2-3 months, but anyone not on it yet can message/email us and we'll get them added.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Awesome thank you!

[@danacouncil1996]

😮😮

[@keithwick6170]

Now…… can we get some artwork for sale for the Micro pinball??? 😀

[@thomasrobinson3753]

You have no idea how helpful this video was! I was very very intimidated by doing this mod but after seeing your set up im alot more comfortable

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

If I can do it, you can do it!

[@davidh4548]

PS. Pdubs, my compliments on giving credit where credit is truly due. To Buy Stuff AND Wagner, I love seeing people recognized for their project/work/developments in this arena. Both are excellent sources of products and knowledge!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Yes they are! Agreed 👍

[@nickyscarfo1]

Great upgrade ! Great how to vid !! Their haptic upgrade phenomenal !! Once again you blew it out of the park !!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MrLivewire1970]

My dude that is beautiful! Great rundown of how everything is connected and setting up fx3 with the screens.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!!!

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

Awesome mods Dub's! Excellent tutorial; really sweet. Looks like Buystuff really put in the effort to make it as easy as possible. I hope that AG thinks about putting out a premium 4K vpin sometime in the future, but this is the next best thing.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!!!

[@evilgeniusentertainment]

You got it Dub's - really one of the best tutorials I've seen.

[@ThomasGrillo]

AtGames should do a deal with this company, and just start including this mod as standard with a "pro" version of the ALP. At least, now, I know it IS possible to replace the existing tiny backglass monitor with something big enough for me to see, if I decide to get an ALP. For the time being, I do have the DIY table from GameRoomSolutions, and the not so easy to see A1up tables. Thanks for sharing this.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Happy to share! I like your idea of a pro model!

[@Brian-Vader4633]

Just got my backbox last week. Love it!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Nice Vader! See you on the Leaderboards!

[@scottboehmer1975]

Looks amazing Dubs! I'm waiting on the Buy Stuff budget backbox and will definitely be grabbing it when it comes out and getting some new art for my machine. Looking forward to seeing your video on setting this up with VPX since that's mostly what I use my Legends pinball for when using OTG.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Yes when this video hit 12mins I decided to split it up...nobody wants to watch a 30mins video lol

[@billywright6107]

Great review Dubs, timing is perfect, after all this time I finally am about to set up my Vibs board, nice refresher...

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks man happy to help!

[@Jason_NSS]

That looks incredible Pdubs! I don’t think I’ll ever connect a PC to my ALP but I still would like that same Back-box you purchased for the stock games. And I’m definitely getting the taller legs. I didn’t know those existed. Thanks a million and awesome review! 👍🏻

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Most welcome Jason! Thanks for watching!

[@alevcimen4891]

Jason just getting that backglass up in size makes it worth while

[@quentinbesancenez1427]

This is definitely on my list of things to purchase. Thanks for another great video

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!

[@ritualdelo]

Excellent and thorough tutorial … Think I might have to splurge on this for the new year …

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Make it so!

[@ScottParisi]

Fabulous video. I added myself to the waiting list. Well, asked to be added. Thank you.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!

[@The_Bad_Guy.]

That is very impressive man. Excellent job that thing looks awesome.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!

[@davidh4548]

I've never understood why Atgames hasn't really dove into the custom graphics options for their equipment. The ALU suffers from this too. BuyStuff to the rescue. This is awesome!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Buy Stuff has many art options!

[@darkempire2022]

My dude, I got the Deluxe 2.0 with the Godzilla decals. Total game changer and worth every penny!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Agreed 👍

[@charliewilson85]

Very nice walkthrough! This and Star Wars are next purchases in ‘23

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Make it so!

[@boomerbob]

Is the sound any better? Looked like upgraded speakers. Thx for this vid. I’m off the fence.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Yes better

[@MichaelBtheGameGenie]

Great Video Dubs, man I have wicked fomo for this back box now

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!

[@rushmore3927]

Your videos are cathartic. We'd probably be good buds if lived near each other. Alas I'm in Kentucky, so you do not have to worry about it!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

It's that Baritone voice

[@DannyWelch]

Love that backbox and will definitely be picking one up shortly. In the meantime, thanks for the links to the legs and bolts, because those made a HUGE difference. At 6'3", I was always a bit hunched over, but now I can stand straight and play comfortably. The black powder coat is much nicer than the stock gray as well. I should have replaced those legs a long time ago. =)

[@nerdloftgaming]

I've been loving mine for the last month, BSA is just fantastic 👍 The last couple of days I've been updating my backglass images with higher resolution ones, since the ones I used on the stock display now look funky, haha.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Nice!!!!

[@rushmore3927]

Still sold out! I will troll them for availability.

[@nerdloftgaming]

@@rushmore3927 they're marked sold out because it's a wait list. You have to contact BSA to be placed on it. It took me 2-3 months before I got my invoice. After paying it only took another two, three weeks to get to me.

[@justinl4060]

When this moves to a more mass produced item, could we expect a discount on the current price? This is awesome, but priced out a bit at the moment.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

I doubt this will be a mass produced item

[@poochinaki]

Great video! Keep up the awesome work! Are the gold leaf switch buttons plug and play?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Yes

[@HoundDogCatia]

Pdubs, do you know if those flat USB and hdmin cables will work with the stock Blackbox? I would like to avoid having cables sticking out in the front.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

yes they would

[@AnthonyTripoli]

Do you find joytokey adds any input lag? I've heard that setting up controls directly in FX3, etc.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

With Vsync turned on yes. With it off its much better. I can try mapping directly in FX3 and see if it's even better than that.

[@markt1593]

Turn up the speed in JTK to 16x, it helps. I have gold leaf buttons, nvidia set to ultra low latency and full speed on JTK and I really don’t experience lag. I use vsync but it is set to FAST.

[@AnthonyTripoli]

@@markt1593 Any reason not to set up the controls in the host application itself?

[@Calwinn]

Hey PDubs, are you able to run PUPpacks on that DMD size?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Not really no, but like I said in the video I like the 90s style DMDs. If you want to run pup packs they have a larger DMD option you can by, showed that in the video as well

[@Calwinn]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft ah I see. I’m assuming if you did want to run pup packs on this, they would just display on the bigger screen above?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

@@Calwinn you could but haven't tried, I have a hard enough time just keeping up with the DMD lol

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Eventually i want to make this upgrade, i have for a while now but no extra dough to spare these days.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Fingers crossed for future mod fun my dude!

[@videogamevegasYeOldeAccount]

PDubs, First off, some positive vibes :) You're always awesome for putting these videos together, and shout out to others in the community who helped you make this happen. Next positive vibe. Buy Stuff Store has some amazing concepts. Love the look of this backbox :) Now to me personally. I forced myself to watch this entire video, which wasn't hard, because your videos have that PDubs charm. However, my heart sunk every time I saw a new wire to plug in, or setting to be set, etc. VPin, unfortunately right now, falls into four categories (probably more, but I'll stick with the four for ease): 1. Cost Effective, Out of the box, super limited, but super easy to start enjoying right away (Arcade1up, AtGames, ToyShock) 2. Modded out out of the box solution, what this video demonstrates, taking one of the cheaper solutions (Arcade1up, AtGames, ToyShock) and adding to it. 3. Super Expensive, with all the bells and whistles, custom tailored made machines that may (or may not) have all the tables you want pre-installed. 4. Build from the ground up yourself. Unfortunately, option 1 is my speed, but I want more games. Soft mods are great, if they don't get too complicated (I completed the Pinner mod on my Arcade1up, but it is a lengthy process, but thank you to Team Encoder and Kongs R Us). Hardware mods can have wonderful results, as shown in your videos, but I'm just not that savvy with wires, old eyes, lack of coordination, and hands not small enough for these tiny components. In fact, just plugging in the cables in a stock AtGames gen 1 Legends Pinball, just building it, was a nightmare and took months to resolve to get working. And heck, I currently have a dead iiRcade Gold edition sitting in my living room that I've been working with their support for over 2 months now with no resolution in sight, with them having me re-seat all manner of tiny wires OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I just can't win. I wish some company could figure out a secret sauce, to get all players to work together to create a small form factor VPin, between $1000 and $2000, that is truly plug and play (plug into power and go with minimal cabinet build), with an online store where you could purchase any pinball table ever made. Where the community could work with license holders and even assist building real tables out, everyone sharing in the profits, making some money (not all the money), so it would be more advantageous for people to get paid for their work instead of people having to resort to pirating stuff. I don't know. It worked with the music industry, so why not video games? Make it easy so it would be more convenient to pay for it. The company who comes up with this recipe will blow away the competition. Go Go GODZILLA! WOOOOO OOOO OOOO! vgv

[@markt1593]

I have had mine for about a year now. It is an expensive item but I couldn’t be happier. It just makes the ALP look way better and it just ramps the experience up (especially in otg) to another level. These guys are awesome and I have their haptics kit as well. With the addition of these items and solenoids, the ALP really rocks for the price point. unit and I’m glad the BSS guys support it!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!

[@rocbrar]

Where did you get your back glass artwork?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Just Google fx3 backglass images

[@ArcadeOrigins]

Excellent tutorial thank you - once you installed the JoyToKey button mapping will the plunger work with Pinball FX3? Also would you consider getting the Buy Stuff Arcade Haptics Upgrade Kit and maybe also adding Solenoid Flipper Button Control upgrade from Cleveland Software Design?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Yes plunger works with joytokey. Yes and yes.

[@imnotstupidjustslow9366]

Pubs, are you going to be doing any more mods to your 1Up Pinball? I just picked up AFM and am looking forward to seeing you do more 1Up Pinball mod videos

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Yeah I might take that intec gaming thing out and go full PC

[@HoundDogCatia]

PDubs, been considering rising my ALP as well. Do you think the legs are worth it?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Yes, was in the video

[@alevcimen4891]

I love my upgraded backbox from 1.0 to 2.0 but getting my pc to work with it isn’t easy as you say…the stock tables look awesome on it and one day maybe I can get the rest to work

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

I'm sorry Al - are you having trouble with FX3 setup or VPX?

[@Kisschaos]

Great video just upgraded mine. One question to see the backbox on atgames and otg mode do all the hdmi cable need to be hooked up to pc. That's where I am no screen display it's on just no signal. Thanks

[@rickjacobs8923]

Have you tried to get the animated backbox images running with FX3?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Not yet

[@tango2895]

Great video I have been debating on buying one of these but I think that you kind of sold me on it hopefully I will be able to get one in a few months or so I know when I went there there were out of them so I don't know if they're still on back order but I definitely want to grab one of these back glass for my pinball machine

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@David-G]

Nice work that looks great

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!

[@Savageite]

Anyone know any other bolts that will work with those legs? I'm tired of leaning over so far to play

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

The ones i linked in the video description work fine

[@markt1593]

Wish these guys would come up with a playfield swap kit.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

That would cost too much

[@102Lawdog]

Can't do it...the back box cost more than I purchased the table for. I know I got a great sale on it at Sam's Club, but that is what it is worth to me. I might do the legs. Great video either way.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@MichaelSmith-fd9ec]

Great Video Pdubs!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks for the visit!!!

[@danielwickman75]

Awesome mods!!! I’m doing the legs immediately….always thought it needed to be raised a bit! When you ordered the bolts for the legs $15….does that price give you all the bolts needed for attaching the legs?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

You only need 8 bolts the pack i linked in the video comes with 50 lol

[@danielwickman75]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft Well……nothing like a little extra for a rainy day!!!🤣 Thanks man…going to really enjoy getting the height up to my Arcade1up pin heights for more comfortable gameplay!❤️

[@nateut4866]

Do you have a link for those full screen backglass images for the fx3 tables? I never bothered to replace the original ones I used when I only had two screens and the few you demoed looked nice. Those new legs too. 😍😍😍

[@KerryTheKid]

Did you change the playfield monitor also?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Nope, its stock

[@swizard0922]

I saw that they are sold out of the version 2.0, but they do have the first version. Do you know the differences between the two? I might have to buy version 1.0, if I cannot get the new version. Thanks again and happy holidays.

[@charleychuck]

Buy Stuff rocks. That is all. 👍

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Lol agreed 👍

[@ericchang3531]

I hope they sell one for the micro!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Would be nice!

[@KerryTheKid]

Nice...ty!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thank you!

[@carlo1132]

I'm super jealous. Looks amazing and def worth the price, buystuff gives you alot for your money. They should have won last night on MB stream but the A1up community pushed for coin door modder lmao, give me a break, Buystuff has way more stuff and way cooler better stuff than a lit coin door. Anyways I am still on stock tables, just too busy to setup pc pinball, but soon, that might push me to do this or... I might take a gamble with chinese 4k pinball system or build my own bigger pinball table kit?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Appreciate the feedback Carl. Buy Stuff has really taken things to the next level this year.

[@BuyStuffArcades]

Haha, it's an honour just to be nominated, right?

[@WWRNC]

Looks absolutely beautiful man. It’s BSA so you know it’s top notch. But man you gotta love some pinball to spend this kind of money. I’m sure it’s worth it but I’m worried my $400 pinball micro is going to be a waste of money 😂

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

I do love me some pinball!

[@alevcimen4891]

It is definitely not a waste

[@jskjellman]

PDubs you are a horrible person. I had already decided to build my own backbox and after watching this video now I'm looking at buying the BuyStuffStore box again. :) As always excellent overview/review love your stuff.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thank you John! Appreciate the support! My apologies to your wallet

[@Rebel_1]

I built my own and I can 100% confirm that you are better off just buying from BSS. I did use some better components but I did not save any money. If you factor in time and mistakes made I came out way more expensive doing it myself.

[@M-NX]

which PC config do u use for ur Visual Pinball please THANK YOU

[@foleyron]

PDUBS thank you for what u do. I have the first version of legends ultimate. My buddy game me a hard drive to plug inside the game system to make it more stream line etc. he gave me USB. Looks like version 1 only has HDMI. Will it work if I convert HDMI to USB in order to plug this in ?

[@MichaelSmith-fd9ec]

Question: I don’t own a PC. How much do you think a PC (just dedicated to the ALP would cost?). I know your not brick seek, but just curious if a cheapo will do?) and how did the legs work out? I love the upgrades (like you said pushes this up a level). Keep up the great work. Impartial reviews I send people to the man, myth, legend Pdubs

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

How do you run your podcast show without using a PC?

[@MichaelSmith-fd9ec]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft lol Mac! I thought you forgot about us😃

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

@@MichaelSmith-fd9ec lol ahhh Mac User...thats a whole different dimension from me lol Android and PC all day bay bay!

[@MichaelSmith-fd9ec]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft “Oh Brother”

[@troymcdonald]

Hey PDubs, you accidentally forgot to mention people will need new bolts/washers for the legs.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

They are linked in the video description

[@Wizard92595]

Thanks for sharing. Great video. Need a lot more than just 2.5" for the new legs.... Need a version that adds 5" to 6". I'm only 5'10" and I'm sooooo tired of stooping for my ATGames Pinball that I find myself sitting down, which distorts the visual enjoyment of the game. BuyStuffAracades, PLEASE come out with even longer legs.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

The casters or "feet" you add would add another 4" linked in video description - so that's 2.5 + 4 = 6.5. Thanks.

[@Wizard92595]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft Yes, I saw that. But I'd like a little more even, to give me a buffer. Thanks for the response Pdubs!

[@Leray21]

Wish this existed in EU, I would be buy it instant heh :)

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

I'm sorry

[@skilletman16]

Unfortunately they are still sold out.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

See pinned comment

[@skilletman16]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft thanks so much!

[@jimedd2561]

Pretty sweet cant denigh👍 If ya could of got that Sam's deal they had for the 399 this would definitely be A easier option even👍

[@danidavis7912]

If you have money to burn, these are great but $500 is just way too much. And I'm not poor by any means.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

As I said in the video all mods are optional and not under any obligation.

[@danidavis7912]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft Of course. I'm just voicing my opinion.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

@@danidavis7912 oh trust me it is a lot of money it's the cost of an arcade lol appreciate the feedback my dude!

[@danidavis7912]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft Hey stop being so damn nice and just let me stew in my self-righteous indignation for a minute! hahaha Love your channel!

[@KerryTheKid]

Nice, nice video!

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thank You!

[@skywalkr2]

I wish Santa would bring me this

[@dieard1]

Good Video. Buystuff are awesome! Everything they create/sell is quality.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Thanks Dude!