AtGames Legends Ultimate Arcade Machine Overview,Test,First Thoughts

[@ETAPRIME]

UPDATE Local streaming is now available using a proprietary ATGames streaming app from Windows so it felt like I had to edit the video and re-upload because I really feel like At-Games is actually trying with this one and I'm personally enjoying this Cab. Join the official AtGames fan page, When they reach 10,000 uses they will be giving away Ultimate Legend unit: facebook.com/groups/457437778352096/

[@DenGuleBalje]

"proprietary app"... WHY!? Why don't they just let you install something like Moonlight or Steam Link?

[@pkhsiung304]

Great video and we are glad you enjoy the cab. Please keep the suggestions coming - It's a connected arcade living and breathing we have scheduled regular updates to keep improving.

[@YDINO69]

Do a video on DIG Android frontend please And also pizza we

[@JohnDernoncourt]

@@DenGuleBalje because it's more than just steam streaming. It streams the whole computer like remote access.

[@AndyPlaysAllNight]

I was wondering where the video went when I gota reply early xD

[@nobuyukinyuu]

Spinners!! This is the first mainstream consumer product I've seen in modern times that have them. I'm working on a game with spinner controls (even built a controller specifically for it) and was afraid no one would ever get to use them! They really went out of their way to give people a good out of the box experience.

[@Teknikfrik]

I wish this product will come to Europe soon. Its a great all in one Cab, ready to go. If i want to buy a diy wood kit here, I have to spend already 300€ for the cheapest. Vinyl costs 150€, then the controllers/Spinners/Trackball 150€+, Monitor 100€, Retropi 50€.... Sound Speakers and amp, usb/hdmi wires plugs, T-mold... the list goes on. Your time and work not included. So for the price is a great product.

[@sonixthatsme]

Exactly what I thought. You can mod the crap out of it.

[@flpennstater305]

This cab is a no brainer. Atgames keeps taking community feedback and adding new free features. Possibilities are endless. Don't have to mod anything to accomplish whatever you want. My 1ups have been rendered obsolete

[@TN_AU]

@EMagnificent hahaha, good one.

[@Laynel8]

Too bad it's taking them over 10 years for AtGames to actually take community feedback, their reputation is already long gone. The damage has been done and sadly there's absolutely no way they're regaining any credibility whatsoever.

[@GenGamesUniverse]

@EMagnificent Not really, they just took a step in the wrong direction with a few things like having the cabinet be a mini kids size cabinet and only one speaker instead of two stereo speakers. They've listened more completely as they've added better buttons and better screen for the V2 and V3 ones. (I'm unlucky, I've only got one of the V1 ones - street fighter one)

[@GenGamesUniverse]

@@Laynel8 Yep, they screwed up on a lot of stuff like the megadrive consoles

[@stevenwheat3621]

@@Laynel8 I won't purchase it. My MAME is sufficient, but this arcade is pretty sweet. It's never too late to try and redeem yourself..

[@jwill7998]

For the first ever, I'm interested in an AtGames product.

[@adamlee007]

idiot

[@dumbass3427]

Idiot

[@ghulcaster]

@@adamlee007 Oh how this comment has aged with the introduction of coinopsx. Own one now?

[@dustinblevins9462]

This machine is legit guys. Atgames actually got this one right for the most part

[@Projectwolfie21]

I can't help but wonder if this is an instance of too little too late though. Most are going to see the brand in combination with the price and see it as a gamble.

[@dustinblevins9462]

@@Projectwolfie21 yeah I agree. That's why I felt the need to say it is a legit machine for the price. I was extremely skeptical myself

[@YadonTheCat]

That can't be right

[@dustinblevins9462]

@SUBZEROUK yes, I agree their genesis/MD products were bad. The arcade machine is alot better than those products though. Which it should be for a 500 dollar price tag

[@Gadgetreviewsful]

They forgot the coin slots/coin mechs. This is the defining experience of an arcade machine, fumbling for quarters and sticking them in before the continue timer runs out.

[@paredfia]

I would love to see Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat II!

[@lonster3000]

The control panel to me is the coolest feature, spinners and a trackball!

[@TampaTec]

subbed and liked, cool features mame game roms add-on, hdmi/usb inputs and connected to wifi to stream steam games is awesome! i think they redeemed themselves with this gem.

[@Saljen]

I'd love to see a review of how the Nvidia Shield functions as the brains for an arcade machine. I'm working on building an arcade cabinet right now and my plan is to use a shield to power it, since I'll be able to emulate, run Android games, use Nvidia GeForce NOW and Steam streaming as well.

[@rodneyabrett]

I still use my version 1 of the Shield console today(wish I would have kept the legacy tablet and fliptop models I had) and it can pretty much handle most of what I throw at it, including some of the harder to emulate games. That tegra GPU really makes a huge difference, especially when you get to the 3d stuff. Using a Sheild seems like an interesting idea for an arcade box. Good luck!

[@garageink74]

I have a vewlix and had a shield inside for a while. It was pretty good however I replaced it with a cheap ryzen pc to handle some pc games. I never got good performance trying to stream games from my pc to shield over WiFi.

[@flpennstater305]

You can use the shield through bluetooth

[@tolust]

THIS IS ARCADE1up KILLER ! thank god I waited and FYI Black Friday this will be $300-$400 yesssss !!!!! Buying it for sure.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

What a crazy time to be alive. AtGames did a thing right.

[@Colin_Ames]

Good review. It appears that AtGames have done something right, for which they are to be applauded.

[@Emolga6274]

Wouldn’t the lag in the arcadenet make every game unplayable

[@geneshifter]

@@Emolga6274 It's certainly a way I would never play. Local files or bust.

[@SakamotoNeko]

I'd like to see Tetris and Fix-It Felix running on the cab. Thanks for the review!

[@draketungsten74]

Tetris is a console version according to the game list, so that would be important to see.

[@jamescooper3571]

Very good review, especially because you commented on the quality of the joysticks/spinners/trackball. Many reviewers don’t.

[@Darwinion]

This is probably the best arcade machine (pre-made) that I've seen so far. I was majorly into building my own stuff... I'd never buy this. But it looks pretty decent for $500. The dual spinners looks a bit iffy.... how many games use dual spinners? Might be a handful but not worth crowding the panel for them. People complaining about the UI... but for a unit like this where people just want to play games it suffices. The hours I've spent tweaking my cabinets to get them perfect in the display UI department. OMG! That's my choice though and most people wouldn't be arsed.

[@thenoseknows4389]

Pretty nice cabinet. Functionality appears to be good, and price isn't too offensive.

[@gamebit9063]

Can we get an update on this machine since its been a few months since you got it?

[@theusher2893]

A dollar an hour?? That's, like, 1994 dial-up internet pricing.

[@delstoliker]

Spinners! Does Tempest work well? I see the Tron logo on the cabinet, but how do you play it without a trigger joystick?

[@daviddikeman7423]

DOH!

[@flpennstater305]

Tempest works perfectly. Glenn has a usb tron stick coming

[@GameplayandTalk]

This seems like quite the solid unit, especially given its price is only a couple hundred more than the typical Arcade1UP unit. Probably the better buy for people that don't mind having a full size cabinet in their homes. AtGames does not have a very good track record with me, but I am liking what I am seeing here.

[@jonsampson3030]

If it can run Marvel vs Capcom 2 I'll place an order immediately

[@DingusMcCheese]

Can u hight compare it to the arcade1ip cabinet with the hight extension attached, I'm still not sure what i should buy

[@flpennstater305]

I have both and the 1ups are a joke compared to this. No riser needed. Updateable. Game over for 1up

[@samuelmeasa9283]

I've been looking at getting a home arcade. How ever I'm divided on a home built or commercial machine. Reviews like this do help to narrow the selection.

[@JohnSmith-eq2tf]

It towers those stupid arcade 1ups. I love it. I've spend under 2 k already on these arcade 1ups and I'm sick of them already. Plus the crappy roms, defects, glitches, and screens. Arcade 1up better release some impressive stuff next year lol. I will get this just for burgertime, pong, and the super nintendo and sega games. 350 games? Spinner, two joysticks,, two speakers, full size cab. Nice art. Plus the menu features and ability to stream. I wish!!!!!

[@allenwest1986]

Every time I watch your video I always ask my... Who in the heck is giving your videos a thumbs down? I mean really are they just hitting the wrong icon ?

[@FormulaFox]

For those curious, Retro Ralph has been extensively covering all developments and updates AtGames has made to the software, so if you're still unsure of this, go check out his videos - he's even managed to mod in a Raspberry Pi withOUT making the existing hardware unusable. They've had some missteps with this thing along the way, but it really seems like AtGames is trying to apologize for their past quesitonable products. This entire system seems to be built expressly to create a product meant to appeal to everybody who doesn't like Arcade1up, but doesn't want to build their own cab, either. Every aspect of this cab addresses a complaint against Arcade1up. You pay a lot more to get that, but you still pay much less than it would cost to buy a full-size custom cab.

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Between Cooltoy, The Tech Buzz, Retro Ralph, PDubs Arcade Loft there is so much awesome positive content out there for this Legends Ultimate Machine - it is an amazing multicade that keeps getting better and better! :)

[@FormulaFox]

@@PDubsArcadeLoft I've been plotting to get a GRS Level Up 3/4 cab for a while now due to considering it to be sufficient(I've always felt full-size cabs are a little crazy unless you're a very social person who has a lot of friends over a lot and needs a true game room with multiple cabs :P ), but this is making me reconsider. A Level Up specced out with a good computer will cost around the same as AtGames cab.

[@TheLyonkoke]

Can you show the accuracy of the emulation, lag, screen ghosting, etc ? Im really curious

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Well it ain't no Recroom Masters but it'll do as an additional multicade to liven up the place a bit. Spinner and trackball look cool.

[@darktetsuya]

I'd heard a lot of good things about this unit! especially the ability to add your own ROMs to play whatever you want! Seems pretty cool may have to look into getting one one of these days!

[@ethan8279]

This might be the one easy to add games and not too expensive

[@MattMcGivern]

I would love to see if this can run Cabal with the trackball. I would buy this unit just for that alone.

[@jamescooper3571]

I want more direct comparisons between Legends and arcade1up. Both seek to replicate the arcade experience. Yes, there are differences in size and (vast) differences in numbers of games. But a similar overriding question ties the two together: which does better in recreating the arcade experience? Arcade1up 12-in-1 includes Tempest, Centipede, Missile Command. So does Legends. A performance comparison is absolutely central to what I (and many others) want to buy. If Legends has a crappy trackball/spinner/controller relative to 1up, who cares if it has a bigger monitor and 350 games? You can put a Defender rom on Legends, but will it be nevertheless unplayable, owing to the button scheme, as is the case with 1up? What about the small screen size of Legends’ vertical games? Direct measured size comparison for Galaga? Again, more feedback on such questions would be greatly appreciated.

[@divebomb1000]

Apparently your going to be able to connect a raspberry pi to this thing without modifications that is according to retro Ralph

[@ClentonClarion]

I don't know if the cabinet controls will work with the Pi though without tapping into the stick and buttons.

[@ClentonClarion]

ATGames already did it. It's plug and play now with the Pi and the cab controls sync via Bluetooth! No need to build another cab

[@DFX2KX]

@@user-yv2cz8oj1k That's not a bad idea if you have the space and woodworking knowledge. I don't think me and my lone jigsaw can pull off anything looking this nice, though.

[@g00glegoggle72]

@@ClentonClarion doesn't Bluetooth mean input lag?

[@ClentonClarion]

@@g00glegoggle72 usually but how does PS4 do it?

[@howardronamald2849]

I cannot find this thing for sale anywhere online!? Does anybody know a site? I am really disappointed with arcade 1up at this point.

[@bstrong4919]

Yes you are right can’t find either

[@dawg338]

Does the control panel have plexiglas overlay on top of it? I noticed from at least the first round of 1-UP cabinets that the graphics would wear off from play.

[@FredSimmondsJr]

My largest complaint with the arcade1up boxes was the width ... this looks like it may be as wide as a full size cab

[@timothypawasarat8469]

Any suggestions on getting the arcade version of Zaxxon to play sound? When I use the AddOn Tool, the .UCE file created does play the game, but there is no sound. I am using a MAME 2003 plus full non-merged rom file.

[@carperdiem8754]

When you add mame games that use spinner or trackball, is it easy to setup controls to make sure they use the spinner/trackball properly?

[@EvrydayErik]

Thanks for the video! Looking forward to the next one.

[@the_realJAMES]

I actually really need this. It’s beyond want at this point

[@MrJaz8088]

Very similar to what i built 20 years ago, was around $3,000, My spinner's placement is above the joystick's, and mine has side buttons and a slide out keyboard, I really hope they sell them in Australia, as i need a updated near full size, All i do now is make Mini's and Bartop's, & V-Pinball for family and friends

[@riverdealer]

can the joystick be changed from 8 way to 4 way easily (or at all) since many games use 4 way controls and don't work with an 8 way very well if at all

[@Raphael_De_La_Ghetto]

Nice honest review. Thank you ETA👏🏽👏🏽

[@brycecohoon]

ATGames made this cab so it would be good enough for you to make a video on it and they could get a face reveal off the ultra reflective plastic panel over the screen... if you know what I mean...

[@b2daisa]

How does heavy barrel play? Been wanting to play this again but hard to find something with the correct controls to play it right.

[@jimmygillard]

I would really like just the control panel for my own set up if I could get it cheap enough.

[@lonster3000]

Jimmy Gillard I was thinking the same thing, that control panel is really the most interesting part to me.

[@vice86]

How would Ikari Warriors work since there's no rotary controls? Spinner plus joystick?

[@bdrift107]

ETA Prime - how about a video on a DIY cabinet using outdated PC?

[@juggalotuz04]

I hope it becomes available to the Australian market

[@legin3753]

same as for uk ireland we never get shit 😒

[@crackwag]

Its gonna be my christmas gift.... Thanks ETA

[@MrWtfulookingat]

I have had this for about 2 weeks it is really a good machine I was on the fence to. I bought mine at Sam’s and I added about another 100 games thru usb so far. I had to research and a lot of fail and try again with the mames and Roms but they do work well when you find ones that work. I still haven’t figured out how to add Sega,nes, and snes games yet!

[@MrWtfulookingat]

Ty I’ll. keep looking

[@clintstrand6310]

@ETAprime where do you get real glass bezels? I got a custom made one from escape pod and, while their vinyl art was great, the bezel was poorly made

[@MattBeaver]

First thing I would do is dump a firmware update and modify it, that system would be awesome to mod.

[@PackingProtons]

why no 4 player version? would be a no brainer I think...

[@truegregthompson]

weird question but do you have an XArcade option you can plug into this and see if it will work? I have a tankstick and this would interest me if I could plug my Tankstick in with those 2 USB slots for 4-player games like simpsons and turtles

[@DoomRater]

Those dials look nice for playing some 720 degrees, just needs a notch on top so I can use a joystick with a bearing mounted knob.

[@imzonzon2535]

The one game I am most interested in is Tron. Would you please demo how that plays on this cabinet.

[@snowblindu]

I think i'm just about sold on this unit. Very cool!

[@hoganzeros3572]

How does the 4-way to 8-way joystick toggle in the options work? Have you tried it yet?

[@zodiaccurse12]

I have the legends gamer pro, can I replace the ball top with a bat top for the toy sticks?

[@BuzzaB77]

wow, atgames actually bringing something tempting. good effort. Does it have warlords? those spinners are actually hard to find in any normal controller form and I sorely miss them for warlords and tempest. hell even 500 for the hardware alone then just throw a pc in there is worth it.

[@BuzzaB77]

@@bland9876 absolutely. I tried to find usb paddles so we could have a warlords tournament at home and couldn't actually find any that didn't involve tracking down old Atari ones and then hoping genesis - usb adapters would work.

[@joshmiller887]

I’ve found that a direct Ethernet cable works best overall for this Cab. The WiFi (for me) doesn’t work well at all. I had to sign in every time I booted and couldn’t use arcade net at all. I spent 2 days feeling I wasted my money.

[@the40yogamer]

it seems to me that some games the spinner might get in the way of using X and A is this a problem?

[@peterios1982]

Right now you can preorder them at gamestop. No other retailer is doing this. $599

[@trencher7]

Those spinners are what we need for Tron and Front Line. Do the spinners push down as buttons?

[@flpennstater305]

No they aren't used as buttons but they are very good quality spinners

[@Choralone422]

I saw one of these on my last trip to Sams not too long ago. Looked interesting but I can't justify spending that amount of money, even for something in a full cabinet. However, for those with that kind of disposable income it looks like a good solution!

[@drewk6614]

You said you can add thousands of MAME games. My machine stopped reading my USB at 127 games. Even if I try a brand new USB with only one game, unless it's one of those original 127 it doesnt work. Do you have any idea what may cause that?

[@drewd]

Drew K And this feature is the only real reason to buy this unit! The preloaded games are mostly terrible... but if we can load up 500 MAME arcade games from a USB drive it changes the appeal of the product!

[@drewk6614]

@@drewd that was the only reason I bought it. Not that I'm not happy to have 127 games of my choosing on it, but that seems to be the limit. And if I delete them to replace with others, it doesnt work. It's those 127, and those ones only. I'd have chosen my games a little more carefully if I knew that. A real bummer. Hopefully there'll be a patch soon as I doubt this was a planned limit. Maybe I'm the only one experiencing it?

[@TheLyonkoke]

This is really impressive. I was hoping the usual At games trash. Thanks ETA prime

[@sheppo]

Looks great and affordable. But how to buy in UK?

[@jasonbrown7960]

How do you play Heavy Barrel, Ikari Warriors, Tron with those joysticks???

[@philipboudreaux7276]

With HDMI in,is there a way to use a Shield TV with their controls/screen?

[@ThePopCulturePodcast]

Can you use STEAM to play MAME from your PC after you have added it as a Non-STEAM game?

[@johnsayre28]

This is super cool. Thanks for reviewing this.

[@ThinkB4UAct]

I like your video presentation , can you find out if we can stream from the game console to a bigger tv screen ?

[@timhardin1333]

Great Video THX!!! Could you please see if Golden Tee works on the unit. I am really interested in this especially if Golden Tee work. Thx

[@Mr06261984]

i'd love to see some disney games and star wars games be played on it. What's the most recent/oldest game it came with.

[@vtnwesley]

Does it have HDMI out and/or streaming from the arcade machine to a PC? What kind of sorting options are there? Cautiously optimistic on this one. Maybe AtGames is trying to do better. Does it run things like Naomi or CPS2 and 3 games well? Also what is the height of this thing in relation to a normal full sized machine?

[@nourdahrouj8964]

hi from where can you download the street fighter and other games you can find on pandora boxes??? thanks

[@arlinleninmejiamartines7067]

Hi ETA prime ...do You know what hapen if have the parents controls on or off ..if something happen how You can get off this cause My always it's on and the machine don't let me do nothing no update and don't let me use USB or see another options please help me

[@bstrong4919]

I figured time I buy 3 arcade 1 up I Midas well just buy 1 of these for the same price and I can save space I like it can save your games

[@bearlyismyname]

Can you use both player's controls as just player 1? For example, if you loaded Robotron from a usb drive could you use both sticks?

[@flpennstater305]

Yes the genesis versiin of robotron uses both sticks

[@foxbodyford]

@2:41 Two doors to get to the arcade. Full size door for normal people and on the right a door for the halfings

[@superduty4556]

Thanks for the update, champ.

[@C_H_1972]

Can you run Robotron and Smash TV with dual sticks? What about time soldiers using one stick and maybe a spinner? Thanks

[@flpennstater305]

Robotron genesis version uses dual sticks

[@MiguelAngelMG]

How to play Marble Madness with 2 players? BW, USB Ports are very bad located. If you play fighting games, it could be easy to hit USB dongle with our hand. I must be replaced at the center of the panel or below the control panel.

[@ThomasGrillo]

Thanks for the look at this machine. :)

[@screwball69]

Can you show off how the in home streaming works? I'd be really curious to see how streaming something like Launchbox to it would do

[@flpennstater305]

Launchbox and everything else in your oc works. I was getting close to 60fps over wifi

[@onecallery7]

Hello there. Great review. 2 quick Questions. I love Tempest. It needs a good spinner. You said the spinner was great. Did you by any chance try it with tempest ? Last question - I have Mame Roms in an old laptop. If I understand correctly can I put those games on a USB device and play them on this platform? Not sure how that works as with the laptop I had to run Mame in order to see the games within the app. Sorry for pedestrian question. Would love to make it work

[@tims7738]

think there's a spinner you can upgrade with for about $50 on Amazon, good quality one

[@Mightywhiskaz]

Did xmen vs street fighter have sound lag? It looked like it was way behind with the effects.

[@lee1130fromtwitter]

Does it have the 3D Golden tee live games? I think they started in 03 or 04

[@flpennstater305]

You can add 2k 3d 97 98 99

[@retror.d.1630]

About time! Lol. You are the explainer in chief. These other guys talk too fast. Can't wait for you to hook up a raspberry pi onto it. I hooked mines up like retro Ralph, by linking up the cable without having to disconnect anything that came with it.

[@AtGamesGaming]

Great Video and thanks for the review!!!

[@StefanBlurr]

I want to build on of these in the future and I want to run everything from NES to PS2. What software do you recommend for that? I saw a video about a launcher named Hyperspin, but I don't have much knowledge about this kind of stuff.

[@ryanbarber6358]

i have run into problems with running mame games and button mapping. Certain button on the control panel become non-useable in mame - Y button, Start, Menu, and some others. Anyone else have these problems?

[@MrDLYouTube]

Is there no way to update the MAME? 2003 is pretty old.

[@robmk007]

First I'm a big fan of your Channel and I've been looking for arcade cabinet but I got to know will this play Killer Instinct Arcade

[@CobraTWashington]

Really interesting video! One thing I'm super curious about is the HDMI in. I wanna know how it works and how useful it could be. I've seen others connect a Pi to the HDMI in and use the new Bluetooth connectivity to connect the control panel to it. Would that work with, say, a gaming laptop or PC running Big Box? That seems far more sustainable and doable than local game streaming.

[@flpennstater305]

Yes it works with a pc and launchbox

[@djcasl]

RetroRalph has a demonstration on Retropie via different HDMI and controller connected via Bluetooth, are you going to test that as well?

[@rafaelrodriguez3400]

From what site you download your rom’s? my Simpsons and marvel vs capcom doesn’t work.