Atheist Experience 21.10 with Matt Dillahunty and John Iacoletti

[@WolfgangBrozart]

I feel like Stephanie is gonna ask to speak to the manager soon

[@ZombieDeathKick]

And write to corporate.

[@devzorsmallz]

Matt: But that's a fallacy tho... Stephanie: nO yOu'Re A fAlLaCy

[@AbleAnderson]

Stephanie is one of the most smug an dishonest callers I’ve ever heard. Matt points out that he didn’t write the thing she’s rebutting and then he asks “will you acknowledge that you’re not rebutting me when you rebut that argument” and she can’t even concede that, she gives a smug laugh and moves on with her script

[@kerplunkboydotNET]

One of the most dangerous kind of fanatics(that's what I call evangelicals, just because it pisses them off). She's the kind of lunatic that lead people into drinking some koolaid.

[@yourmoms5602]

I wish The Atheist Experience was the half time show in the middle of the Superbowl.

[@nuoiptertermer4484]

Look, I love the atheist experience, but I want a great band performing in the half time show. Although that would be cool.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

It takes a lot of effort to be the most pompous and arrogant caller that's ever phoned into the show. But Stephanie somehow managed it.

[@jameswest8280]

Stephie FTW.

[@starlaminde8436]

She sure did

[@doneestoner9945]

She was so annoying.

[@dylanhicks48]

I was blown away by the confidence she had in what amounted to not even an argument.

[@ScorpioXVirgo]

With 4 seconds of research the wiki has almost 900 pages and she believes Matt wrote every single one

[@steveyuhas9278]

Stephany is a perfect example of someone who has focused more on getting 'good' at arguing (I would argue it's just assertions and obfuscation) instead of focusing on the actual arguments and bringing something of substance. She attacks Matt, tries to discredit him right off the bat, uses dishonest tactics to assert her position and when she is called out logically she gets louder, tries to change the subject and basically whines. I mean it's kindergarten debate tactics. The equivalent of "no YOU!" and "Nuh uh, I'm right you're wrong I'm not listening nananabooboo". It's just embarrassing.

[@moragslothe6449]

There's nothing "good" about her "arguments".

[@AbleAnderson]

Stephanie is insufferable. She is so confident, and she is awful at this.

[@5ynthesizerpatel]

Come on "Stephanie", we all know your real name is Karen

[@Ploskkky]

Stephanie either really doesn't get it or she is as dishonest as the devil herself. These types of theists disgust me. Perhaps I should correct myself. I think there was a lot of fear in the attitude of Stephanie. I think she knew Matt was going to floor her stupid argument and she tried to silence him by shouting over him with empty phrases. I think it is all fear for the emptiness of their theistic beliefs.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

A.Plosky That’s why they get so angry. Every Christian I’ve ever talked with goes from being sure, to slowly getting more & more frustrated. Then they’ll start asking 25 questions at once, & if you miss one, they take that as some kind of certainty that they’ve won. Some of them are obviously being dishonest & having no problem with that. Why would you ever think you’d truly win an argument if you had to resort to lies in order to do it.

[@adako25]

Agreed, that fake condescending laugh is a defense mechanism

[@Codswallop58]

Why do you think the devil is dishonest? In the garden story in Genesis, the “serpent” is the only one who tells the truth, while God lies his ass off.

[@RB-zh1eq]

She came out swinging too. You could tell she had something to prove. Something to show. Not interested in an honest conversation. What a bitch.

[@CronoXpono]

Stephanie is that one person who won't let go of ANY idea that will either countermand her period or point out how blatantly stupid she's sounding. Like...WOW.

[@Multi1628]

~ Matt and John' archived videos far more beneficial in truth-seeking than WHAT ANY religion offers still in 2019! Thank you guys. Cheers, DAVEDJ ~

[@ringo666]

You've posted small variations of this comment endlessly on AXP videos -- aside from " glad you like it", it's a pain in the ass to ALWAYS trip over your hand job posts. Get a life, dude.

[@emmym1912]

Holy crap Stephanie! In your reasoning let’s compare Andrea Yates drowning her 5 children in the bathtub because of her christian beliefs, to that of the apostles emerging from their cave. All for the asinine reasoning in/of a “savior”.

[@zqxzqxzqx1]

Regardless of his beliefs, Jeff is SUCH a sweet man!

[@apathy113]

At 18:53 John: "How do you know any of this?" And that's a pummelin' ... 😂😂😂

[@insanetester1015]

If "Stephanie" is Stephanie J. Thomason, then she doesn't have a problem ruining her own reputation. And why does have that snide laughing?

[@jimmorgan8688]

She's a lovely lady isn't she, if she's married her husband is a lucky man! 😏

[@hurrayboy1995]

I know this is a year later but i found her twitter - @Lead1225 and youtube - ChristianApologist. She's just as stupid and she would let you to believe

[@jasperhalsey8574]

“What reason do you have to think there was any connection there?” “Exactly!”

[@jimappleby3545]

I used to wonder how anybody could be conned by the Mormons and their unlikely mythology - now I've heard Jeff from Utah, I understandperfectly. I'm surprised his family even let him use the phone unaccompanied - "Zelda, honey - I done just bought us that Eyeful Tower in Paris France for three hunnerd dollars! Just have to go an' collect it. Feller on the phone says it'll dismantle and fit into two big suitcases! Whoo-ee! Do I know how to drive a hard bargain or don't I?"

[@jimmorgan8688]

When he uses the phone his wife makes him wear a crash helmet and stands by with a fire extinguisher.

[@adako25]

Eyeful tower 😂 that killed me! 👍

[@Shadowchild695]

Stephany is a real life Internet troll.

[@davidlanger3295]

To Stephanie, the gospels are true merely because she wants them to be

[@RonaldStepp]

At 21:00, if they were in hiding, how could they have seen Jesus rise?

[@amandarios448]

Not to mention, would they never come out, ever? To get water or food to eun away? How could they N O T ever come out of hiding???

[@bms77]

No it says they saw THE risen Jesus not saw Jesus rise.. They saw ghost Jesus LOL.. it’s all BS anyway but just tellin ya what it says

[@RonaldStepp]

Strange how Jeff brought up 911 and the Terrorists as some kind of back handed claim that Allah is a false god, which is funny because if Allah was false and Jeff's god is real, in his opinion, one would think the side with a real god could have easily stopped 911.

[@ringo666]

The trick that no one will admit is that the Jewish, christian, and Muslim god is one and the same -- a fictional god of war in polytheist Canaanite belief.

[@queezle4277]

Jeff is adorable. Those mormons took advantage of him!

[@SynthMusicWorld]

Why is it that so many theists like Stephanie are arrogant and condescending? You people give theists a bad name -- or rather a even worse name.

[@adako25]

Ego defense mechanism is one guess

[@FourDeuce01]

Stephany with her smarmy laughter is funny.😂 I think her real name was Karen.😈

[@johnlopperman2161]

Stanley's a college educated man'' worried about Froot Loops.

[@thefub101]

Stephanie needs to add "in the story" to all these things she's saying.

[@richdandanell2911]

Hey I've been wait for years for Ned Flanders to call in ! And today was the day! I just wish he used his real name instead of using Jeff .

[@YY4Me133]

Maybe she didn't show up to court because she had no shoes to wear.

[@jimmorgan8688]

LOL! "Send me her shoes!"

[@Xnerdz1]

_"A burning in the bosoms"_ Yeah, he's describing being shafted.

[@adako25]

🤣😂

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

Jeff was a poe. Every single thing he said was specifically worded to sound as stupid as possible.

[@bms77]

@@seraphinaaizen6278 yea he sounds like a Ned Flanders or something. He’s either a fake or he’s a simpleton

[@the-outsider8458]

I am very appreciative of those like Matt who've introduced some of us to the importance of logical fallacies. Unfortunately there is a very large number of those just like Stephanie who only hear the buzz words without actually understanding what they mean. Argument from ignorance Moving the goal posts Gas lighting Ad hominem attacks Straw man arguments Burden of proof Null hypothesis I doubt Stephanie, or most people, understand any of those concepts. Yet because of the simplicity of the words, eg goalposts, the, and moving; they incorrectly assume that of course they know what it means and therefore end up using it in whatever cockamamie way they've incorrectly come up with. Highly frustrating to listen to

[@MizterMissile]

Seriously. They don't care, they exhibit all these antisocial behaviors and lack of desire to play nice (or logically) and then they play the hurt victim when they are on the receiving end of critique or when people flee the church for a better life.

[@k.m.3286]

Oh wow, stephanie...wow..

[@the-outsider8458]

Oh, you poor girl Stephanie, how difficult must life be for you if you're incapable of understanding something as simple as this Convo, that is so sad.ç

[@DadeMurphy666]

1:00:27 If faith can lead us to true conclusions and false conclusions then faith is not a reliable mechanism for finding the truth right?

[@thelogoth]

For the Voodoo story...the reason why the person didn't turn up to court...is because they couldn't find their shoes. Can't turn up to court without your shoes..that would be rude. 😊

[@evidencebased1]

I sent my shoes to Matt and now I’m an atheist. Don’t knock the voodoo priest stories!

[@davidwright834]

warning: heartburn can lead to Mormonism

[@gmac6503]

Stephanie (SJ) as of July 2022 is even 4 times WORSE now than here on this call!

[@diogeneslamp8004]

Yikes.

[@Thormp1]

Theistic reasoning...there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches of the world....but there's only one star with life on it, just so that the Hebrew war god could pull off a plan to rescue a minority of earth humans from the consequences of his own hatred.

[@moodyrick8503]

If Jeff keeps looking for answers from outside of the Mormon "bubble', and if he is completely honest about the conflicts he encounters, he will, find his way out.

[@mikekohary1075]

Stephanie is one of the most confidently incorrect people I've ever heard. What an embarrassment.

[@diogeneslamp8004]

The Dunning-Kruger is strong with that one.

[@nuoiptertermer4484]

To correct Stanley, The line ''Life is like a box of chocolates'' is in fact in Forrest Gump.

[@bobobo2224]

James Earl Jones did not ever say he remembers filming it. HE DIDNT FILM ANYTHING!!! He only did the voice.

[@bobobo2224]

Why would Matt or anyone else ever look at their own bio page? If I create a bio page, I already know myself so why read about myself

[@adako25]

Gabriel has as much faith in voodoo as Jeff does in mormon doo doo.

[@Greatergood3]

Someone who learned the word cognitive dissonance the day before

[@steveforks9698]

Having a conversation with these Christian types like Stephanie......forkin hell!!!

[@JDMunoz-ct9xn]

At one point, you can hear the terror in Stephany's voice.

[@DulceN]

Stephanie seems to be a piece of work, I pity those living with her. As for Gabriel, he may be ‘wondering’ but is not willing to take the next step and investigate. For all he and we know, that family he speaks of might have gotten involved in illegal trafficking, with the local mafia or who knows what. Unfortunately, there is too much ignorance, fear and corruption in Africa, people are uneducated and very gullible, that’s how any grifter can get away with whatever they want and nobody will question or inquire about it.

[@GSP-76]

Something tells me Gabriel owns a lot of bridges across PA.

[@jimmorgan8688]

Stephanie seems nice. 😆

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Jim Morgan I wish she was my grandma 🤣

[@samsox69]

Just a delight isn’t she?😁

[@Daniel-zg6mj]

What made the Greeks so brave at Thermopylae? This lady " Jesus"

[@dmclegg66]

I grew up Mormon didn't feel any burning I felt boredom and apathy never believed any of it no one cared when I left.

[@SahajSoldier]

At our "MTC in the Mountains" we were encouraged to have our own "Sacred Grove experience" so I went alone and prayed for a sign and heard nothing, and felt even less.

[@jeff-el5ne]

Stephanie's high pich voice makes my head hurt

[@jonneexplorer]

Only evidence they have for this whole apostle being persecuted thing is the bible and church teachings... Written decades after the fact... She assumes it to be true, and then bases an entire argument on it... Clear sing that they do not care if what they believe is true...

[@2ahdcat]

That Jeff guy DOES realize He's in a cult, yes?

[@adako25]

😂🤣

[@euripidiesupman9755]

He does now, I bet.

[@Bella-vt7ol]

Stephany is that one religious person we all laugh about…bless her heart 👈🏻…thats an insult stephany, I highly doubt you would’ve recognized that on your own 🤪

[@Xnerdz1]

But Matt, have you tried going to Africa? XD

[@rossmakoske]

It must be really easy to launder money in a place where black magic is a reasonable explanation for suddenly having a bunch of money

[@insanetester1015]

More mythology about early "martyrs". How does an adult person takes those stories as anything but fiction. "Stephanie" discussing the "apostles" is no different than trekkies discussing Kirk and Picard.

[@lucisferre6361]

Tampa Stephany was bout soft as church music 🎶

[@JDMunoz-ct9xn]

Poor Gabriel. He doesn't understand that just because a culture is inured with an idea that doesn't make it true.

[@presidentobummer447]

Oh my gords Gabriel, they started dealing drugs! Seriously...

[@jameswest8280]

There's over 100 splinters from the Mormon church.

[@juniusarrindell5483]

That caller in Africa trembling under a bed making that call , he done seen and hear too much !!.

[@AkanoWire]

Of course there is a connection between sending the shoes to a voodoo priest and not showing up in court. How would they get there, if they dont have shoes? q:

[@Mickey-mw6jr]

Poor Gabriel needs to see a doctor!!!

[@iveseen1]

Steph seems like she is wound up like a spring.Steph is to emotionally involved in her argument, big mistake trying to show off in front her friends.

[@jackylaibach2351]

she announced that she's gonna get pummeled in front of her friends and she surely had success

[@BrianFedirko]

The voodoo priest is a con artist, that is what is going on with the caller. He simply doesn't know what the voodoo priest "talked about with his clients" to make them rich. Guaranteed the priest got richer. The other story is a con artist story also, the person not showing to court. These stories have to many unanswered questions, specific questions not general ones. Money is a stong motive, and fear is a wicked con art in a money making bag of tricks. Gr8! Peace ☮💜

[@jszlauko]

And in a culture where many people believe in voodoo priests, how many people are going to share stories that are negative towards the voodoo priest if they get threats from them saying that if something bad is said about them, a bad curse will be cast upon them!

[@cghkjhjkhjhvfghc]

Stephanie... Need I say more?

[@onepoorguy]

How about Gabriel? Desperately seeking an answer to a coincidence.

[@cghkjhjkhjhvfghc]

@@onepoorguy I don't know if I could do them both back to back.

[@ColtonPhillips]

Jeff loves that movie lmao.

[@DadeMurphy666]

1:02:29 what is...what is true faith and how do u know its a reliable path to truth? It sounds very circular. It sounds like you're saying the faith that leads to truth is a reliable path to truth.

[@sombrecynic4966]

It's funny how this guy knows so much about the voodoo priest, but he's never employed the services of this voodoo priest? Red flag.

[@SecondaryHomunculus]

K̶a̶r̶e̶n̶ Stephanie is quite a, umm ... creature.

[@ElyasChange]

The fact that people remember that line 'life is like....' from forest gump just shows you how the director/storyteller succeeded. You remember it like Forest remembered his mother telling it to him

[@johniec5282]

" .. causes things to change" Gabriel is too gullible.

[@homeslice1269]

Stephanie as has great need to be right. Her friends were right to think she would be pummeled.

[@jimmorgan21]

Stephany is a complete loonatic!

[@robertfox977]

Total mind control idiocy. You cant talk to these people.

[@teresaamanfu7408]

Gabriel is a classic guy in Africa who has been duped by stories of where the priests.

[@bobobo2224]

Stanley, get off the drugs. Your memories are wrong. You were wrong about everything. Especially since kids don't pay too much attention to details. The convepts maybe, but the rest is wrong. A good example is learning words to songs. I've had many favorite song where I couldn't understand a word or mis heard it, but then I listen to song as adult and am baffled how many words were obvious yet as a kid not. M Jackson, Billy Jean. I used to think the words were "but the champ is not my son". But now I don't know how I thought champ was the word. That's the real Mandela effect. Looking back at things now, it's not that things changed. The actual effect is that over the years we filled in blanks and condense things in our brains. Darth Vader says Luke a lot. It's a catchy, easily mimicked word. That plus he says it a lot it goes perfect with the biggest plot spoiler I am your father. Others, yo Adrian. Etc

[@visforvegan8]

Stephany is really annoying. She has a major problem listening.

[@jameswest8280]

There's over 100 sects of Mormonism.

[@johnallison6054]

It's Stephanie spelt K-A-R-E-N

[@Daniel-zg6mj]

She's laughing at all the wrong times. Instability vibes...

[@Mickey-mw6jr]

What's wrong with all these people. Jeff is another poor soul. Guys really lost.

[@moragslothe6449]

It's a true feat of this caller to answer so dishonestly and/or irrelevantly, and to be so self-righteous and pompous in tone to boot lol

[@lucmuhirwa]

Gabriel, plz stop generalising!! Just say your countriy or region!!!

[@insanetester1015]

Paul was a professional liar.

[@sohu86x]

Perpetuo? It's Perpetua. Get your facts right, Stephany. What an embarrassment.

[@MafiosoGame]

Jeff is a cultist. Simple as that.

[@bms77]

Jeff ain’t a dummy but he is a simpleton lol

[@ralphdunn4611]

23:30 deals with their coming out of hiding but they went onto die for this supposedly lie...

[@barkYdarkATFB]

Legend has it, that Gabriel went to the voodoo priest to make something happen to Matt… then he got divorced, all his cohosts left, he had open heart surgery… Justsayin. 35:48

[@davidlee4903]

How incredbly stupid.

[@stophi2581]

Why didn't You Just Help this Voodoo Guy ? Easy explanation: because they believed in the Ritual they Took Action on a Further Chance and got Money Out of this. No god, No super Natural. Just an easy possibilty. He needs to Hear something Like that i guess.

[@HighStakesDanny]

African and Stephanie both don't understand argument from ignorance.

[@lilmsgs]

Mormon Jeff is a POE. He's pretending to be a Mormon.

[@allim.5941]

He saw Buddhists setting themselves on fire like in person?

[@normkeller2405]

Matt might consider reducing the "I", "me", "my", focus.

[@jackylaibach2351]

What for? He surely deserves to use those as much as he wants

[@normkeller2405]

@@jackylaibach2351 Everything is about him. Every AXP show, he makes it sound like he owns the show, he is the total decision maker, etc. IIRC there were other people involved.

[@jackylaibach2351]

@@normkeller2405 that's just your opinion dude and you know what they say about opinion...it's like an asshole, everyone has one

[@normkeller2405]

@@jackylaibach2351 So what's your point, other than to state the obvious? At least have the guts to state that you disagree, and why, rather than a temper tantrum.

[@jackylaibach2351]

@@normkeller2405 ok then. It's his show and he's the best educator of them all, though this is just my opinion. When he speaks, indeed he frequently uses pronouns "I", "me", "mine"...because he always emphasize accuracy of expression. You probably find it irritating or maybe even narcissistic but I do not so as I said it's matter of opinion.