"Just Believe In God, You Don't Need Evidence!?" | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

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[@danzel1157]

First you decide to believe, then you spend the rest of your life trying to find evidence for that belief. The stress must be incredible.

[@Catholictomherbert]

Depends if people have to substantiate there non-belief or um the evidence is limited that’s why the nature of Faith is hotly debated topic on its role in understanding the Bible things like this.

[@danzel1157]

@@Catholictomherbert People are not required to substantiate their non-belief. They just don't believe. Religion needs them, more than they need religion.

[@Lund.J]

Frequently observed fact is self-evident. Belief in authority is faith. Faith in interpretation is faith. Orthodox zealots spew hate: Anger against the carpenter, anger against voting behavior, hatred towards those who believe differently; hate in general.

[@TheistsTapOut]

​@@Lund.JWow! You are right. And don't forget. Hate leads to suffering.

[@CheesyChez421]

@queuecee I sense much fear in you.

[@flapjackboy]

"Have you ever witnessed your birth?" Yep, I was there at the time.

[@TheKiroshi]

This smooth brain take seems like it should defeat itself.. Sure, i was there, i dont remember it, but my mother does. So thinking because you were there to see it, must mean it has to be disbelieved... Like dude, you're a 7 month old kid, not knowing what object permanence is ALSO THIS DEFEATS ALL YOUR POINTS? "Oh, a guy dug up a 12 foot tall humaniod, hence bible is real" "Were you there?"

[@wilhelmschmidt7240]

Seriously, taking your mother's identity as faith? Nope, documented, recorded, genetics... Zero need for faith when you have evidence.

[@robertmcallister4688]

Ask Terrence Howard.

[@CutThroatJuggalo]

​@robertmcallister4688 this comment is underrated.😂😂

[@WetDoggo]

Furthermore...

[@Smileynb]

The minute that someone says that the "first thing they've heard in evolution is the Big Bang Theory" the conversation is over. From that moment on you can conclude that they are just spewing crap that they have heard, and haven't actually thought about it for one second.

[@lilmsgs]

ding ding ding

[@dieSpinnt]

Stephan: "Hey, I will found a new business." Me: "Oh, cool! What do you have in mind?" Stephan: "I make gold ... from lead" Me: "Aha? [long pause, sanity check] How does it work?" Stephan: "We have the lead and I speak some prayers, like this one guy in the 1960ies did describe in his papers." Me: "You mean 1560ies ... And you know that was absolute nonsense of some guys believing in magic? Christian transformation magic! Why don't you demonstrate it to me." Stephan: "Okay.", prays ... nothing happens. "So let's move forward [Like he said in the beginning of the video after his childish wrong understanding of several topics was revealed]. How much shares do you wanna buy?" Me: "I will pay for a therapist. You really need that. And let us do a blood-screening for lead-poisoning, IMMEDIATELY! And also, you need education, visit a school, friend!" (=Actual "Christian values", that strangely Atheists show 1000 times often than them ... hehehe)

[@aleksanderrubanenko1353]

Just believe in evolution! If you don't believe in it read first sentence.

[@AmericaTheSimpleMinded]

@@aleksanderrubanenko1353 No one “believes” in evolution. People accept it based on what we’ve learned like they do with gravity and germs. This guy knows he can’t demonstrate his claims so he deflects with evolution like every other theist that knows what they claim can’t be proven. If evolution was completely dismissed that has zero bearing on god/religion. Why can’t anyone ever demonstrate their god claim? That’s why people don’t believe in it.

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

I feel sorry for him. Preachers & apologists have spread lies about science. Lie 1 is that science supports the Bible “more & more.” Lie 2 is that science is mostly wrong about everything else. Lie 3 is that to question lies 1&2 will send you to hell forever. People in positions of authority teach this! It’s no wonder there are so many Stephans who believe it.

[@Vintage-Bob]

When theists ask - "Were you there at the Big Bang?", the best atheist response is - "Were you there when god created the universe?". I've never heard anyone turn their argument on them to point out how silly their argument is.

[@TheistsTapOut]

People turn this around to creationist all the time when they make that argument. Maybe you mean you never heard a creationist responding to this with anything except special pleading.

[@dobrien51]

@@TheistsTapOut Usually, their reply is that their witness is the ‘gawd of the universe’ who then told his buddies to write it down and tell everybody.

[@danielkeizer4174]

​@@dobrien51and I then say. Wich buddies? God was alone remember. So who was this invisible narrator who's speaking in the first person and how do you know they aren't lying about it?...

[@drago7807]

To be fair, you couldn't answer that question either. If there was nothing at all then what caused the big bang? Your explanation is just as absurd as the Bible thumpers.

[@Vintage-Bob]

@@drago7807 Wrong. You miss the point. Religionists use the argument "Were you there at the Big Bang" when they themselves were not there to see their god create the universe, as they believe. It's a double standard. Also, something from nothing is not at all absurd, and if you had bothered to do the research, you'd understand that. We have conducted lab experiments in which we create a total, hard vacuum - no air, no matter, no particles, no radiation, no light - NOTHING. And from that NOTHING, quantum particles spontaneously and randomly pop into and out of existence. As Lawrence Krauss explains, it may be the case that "nothing" is such an unstable state that it may necessarily HAVE TO produce something.

[@suburban-vampire]

Stephan: "Basically no one can know anything without faith", a self-evidently false premise.

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

Stephan: "I haven't really studied evolution." Oh, we know that

[@donjuan123]

..maybe not studied the bible either..?

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

What Stephan knows with confidence is that he is right, & also, that he can’t be wrong. So why bother reading anything?

[@CycocelVocalist]

takes it on faith that it's false

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

Faith is indistinguishable from stupidity and a licence for liars and charlatans to exploit the fearful desperate and vulnerable.

[@jamietodd2560]

People underestimate how much scientists WANT to discover something that _disproves_ an established theory. That's the kind of discovery that gets your name spoken along with Einstein, Darwin, and Galileo.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Knowledge is required to avoid believing in falsehoods. Avoiding knowledge only serves those who claim truth without evidence.

[@XEndlessSteelX]

​@@jaflenbond7854 nobody cares what the bible says if you aren't able to prove it to be correct with outside sources.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@jaflenbond7854 Gwambygine

[@nealjroberts4050]

​@@jaflenbond7854 Knockatee Gouda?

[@terrencelockett4072]

​@@XEndlessSteelX And not just them proving one specific historical point to claim the entire Bible is true.

[@jkryanspark]

This caller might one day walk into Mt. Sinai Hospital and ask to see the remains of the Ark.

[@ObservantHistorian]

"Just Believe in God, You Don't Need Evidence!" Well, that's a relief, since there IS no evidence.

[@MrCanis4]

Judge: I sentence you to life in prison. Dude: Why? you have no Evidence. Judge: I don't need any.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

You forgot to add: I do not need any. I read a fairy tale where a guy bearing your name was guilty. In BELIEVE that YOU are guilty, therefore.

[@Josh-m5i]

Just believe in the Easter Bunny, you don't need evidence.

[@Lupinemancer87]

Are you telling me that the bunny I saw run around my backyard, hiding eggs around Easter isn't real? How dare you!!! :D

[@TheistsTapOut]

​@@Lupinemancer87Did you actually see it poop out that chocolate egg? Cause that tiny dark brown round thing is NOT chocolate.😬

[@CheesyChez421]

I like to tell them "just believe that the universe came from a unicorns asshole. You don't need evidence."

[@t800fantasm2]

"believe in the Easter Bunny" Jesus: "So, are you the Easter Bunny? Bunny: "Yup, what's it to you?" Jesus: " Hey little guy, don't be mad, I'm just wondering what your game is here?" Bunny: "Oh, it's not a biggie, I crap out little tiny brown turds. Told the locals it's chocolate and they run around looking for them and eat them" Jesus: "Why do they do that?" Bunny: "They don't know what chocolate is, so I told them its really good. It'll be a few hundred years before they discover real chocolate, so i'm kind of helping them... LOL I even hide them so they feel like they did great when they find one!" Jesus: "Wow, that's good, I wish I had thought of it. You could almost start a religion with a scam that good." Bunny: "Don't worry, something will come your way! There's a sucker born every minute." Jesus: "I must think on this. It's such a good idea that I'd hate to pass over it without doing something!" Bunny: "Hey, wanna hear a joke?" Jesus: "Sure, what ya got?" Bunny: "What do you get when you pour hot water down a rabbit hole?" Jesus: "Ummm, No idea..." Bunny: "Hot Cross Bunnies!, Get it?" Jesus: (laughing) Jesus: "Wait, I just had this idea for a religion... Let's see a bunny in the shape of a cross???? or maybe on a cross?" Bunny: "Gross!, put your own ass on a cross!, Not a cute little bunny.... " Jesus: "Hey, you might have something there... " Bunny: "Yeah, create a little backstory, get up on the cross, wait till no one's looking and bugger off... Confuse the hell out of the locals. They ain't too smart... Especially that guy Brian, down the road...claims he's all this, or that but I asked his mom and all she said was, "Now, you listen here! He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy! Now, go away!" before I could ask anything more....

[@Lund.J]

The Easter hare brought eggs to poor children. An old Germanic tradition around the vernal equinox. Related to the empty tomb and resurrection. When the grave could not hold back the light. Reminds a bit of Santa Claus. An ancient tradition for the winter solstice. When light is born at the darkest moment.

[@smoldragon339]

"I can't think of a naturalistic explanation, therefore the only explanation is supernatural!" Magicians make their living doing things that most people can't immediately think of the naturalistic explanation for. That doesn't mean they're actually doing sorcery, though.

[@Mr_Porter]

Every time this guy called, it was like playing fallacy bingo. Listening to his calls felt like enduring the arguments of a kindergarten-level Christian.

[@Columbiastargazer]

i think it's a violation of the Geneva convention

[@Lund.J]

Complacency bingo is worse.

[@danielkeizer4174]

​@@Lund.Jand you can obviously back that up with a valid argument? Or are we just saying things...

[@CheesyChez421]

@Mr_Porter oh its not exclusive to him. In fact I kinda want to make my own fallacy bingo table because of callers like this. I would make it into a drinking game but I'm cautious that given how many fallacies callers spew out that it would be dangerous. Given the right caller, you could succumb to alcohol poisoning.

[@danielkeizer4174]

@@CheesyChez421 you'll drown in it first...

[@DJ-ov2it]

This dude... its just unreal what kinds of people exist.

[@brilanto]

"kinds"?!

[@DJ-ov2it]

@brilanto yeah?

[@brilanto]

@@DJ-ov2it "Evolutionist", someone?

[@DJ-ov2it]

@@brilanto just because creationists abuse the word "kind" in a biological context, doesnt mean I cant use it.

[@stevenswitzer5154]

Just beleive that I am god. You dont need evidence. Kneel human

[@CheesyChez421]

I like your funny words, magic man

[@Lord_CV]

HAIL @stevenswitzer5154

[@krisaaron5771]

@@CheesyChez421 Silly "magic man" is just making me giggle with his funny fantasies. Now, if he could explain WHY anybody should believe in him being "gawd"...

[@CleverMonkeyArt]

Except that, we are all god. So, your turn.

[@stevenswitzer5154]

@CleverMonkeyArt You arent following orders. Lake of fire for you. You are sending yourself. I have nothing to do with it

[@IamValak-j9e]

caller has never heard of a Birth Certificate

[@Disturbed0neGaming]

Stephan is the type of guy who seems to only believe things that are wrong... 😳

[@morganramsay7628]

When I was a child and somebody explained how something I believed or thought was true wasn't I was ashamed then excited to have gained knowledge. These guys spend all their energy doubling down of their preferred BS!! It's exhausting to constantly be exposed to it!!!!

[@TheSkyGuy77]

""just shut up and believe what I told you to!!"" No. I won't EVER believe someone without proof.

[@Catholictomherbert]

"Preposterous! You dare question my authority? Just shut up and believe what I told you to!”

[@danielkeizer4174]

But but look at this book that says god is the real and the trees.../s

[@RogueBurn]

Sounds like some teachers at my Lutheran school many years ago. You know how warm and fuzzy the Germans are? 😅

[@Gwaithmir]

“Faith is belief without evidence or reason; coincidentally that’s also the definition of delusion.” (Richard Dawkins)

[@tatalsaba]

If he's in college rn, he should drop out, save his teachers the wasted time.

[@donjuan123]

And his parents...all the money they can save... but...shit... they raised him...maybe.... but...

[@chrispbacon3042]

As soon as a theist uses the word ' evolutionist' you know they are just clueless 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@jimster7277]

Not enough oxygen to support larger life forms? I thought that elephant are pretty big. The Blue Whale is even bigger.

[@donjuan123]

Dragons, unicorns (big ones...really big ones..), Bigfoot, thunder & lightning and war an famin, it all takes a lot of oxy..

[@terrencelockett4072]

And under their beliefs, why would god create the earth with all that oxygen then just take some of it away?

[@MrRational59]

Irrational caller makes no sense.

[@annecurtis630]

They usually dont

[@ninaschust3694]

​@@annecurtis630 I am shocked 😉

[@miraichampion3366]

"God said let there be light...and 3 and half minutes later there was light....which is basically instantaneous"

[@MrCanis4]

But then he still needed four days to get the sun together. 🤣😂

[@annecurtis630]

Theists will never give in to reason. They will be told a fact which is irrefutable, they will take that fact, ignore some of it, slice it and dice it until it fits in with their beliefs and come out with the usual tap dance

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

Reasonophobia and antirationalism are never mentioned..

[@jacobjohnston3983]

If we found the skeleton of a 12 foot tall human, you know what that would prove? It would prove that at least one human was 12 feet tall. No idea how he jumps from “one large skeleton” to “the Christian god is real.”

[@terrencelockett4072]

Exactly, but that reasoning is built into their beliefs. They prove a few historical points in the bible, now that proves everything they believe about the bible is true.

[@Miss-Placed.1]

Saying that archaeology has confirmed some of the events in the bible is a bit like the mediums trick of cold reading: focusing on the hits and ignoring the misses

[@nealjroberts4050]

Archaeology proves 80s New York existed therefore so does Spiderman.

[@Miss-Placed.1]

@ sound reasoning right there

[@CheesyChez421]

"Have I witnessed my own birth" What in the goddamn does that even mean?

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

A mirrored wall in the delivery room🤷‍♀

[@perrygershin3946]

It's quite possible that I witnessed my own birth, but because my brain was not yet fully developed, that memory did not become permanent.

[@CheesyChez421]

​@@perrygershin3946which makes this line of questioning the dumbest of the sophistry apologetics I've ever seen.

[@TheistsTapOut]

​@@CheesyChez421Maybe the caller wasn't there when he was born

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

Irony of the first steps of my disconnect with religion was Easter - it dawned on me that there was some irrational connection in regards to the Easter Bunny, eggs, candy, and somehow it’s connected to Christ rising…. I’d later learn how Christianity cannibalized pagan holidays as means to bring pagans to their faith - this would include Christmas which was the celebration of the winter solstice, after they outlawed the decoration of trees.

[@danielkeizer4174]

Correct. The spring equinox was celebrated with symbols of fertility and new life. 🐑, 🐇, 🐥, 🥚. The most disgusting theft of symbols was to connect Jezus to a lamb and his death as innocence being sacrificed just to associate it with those pesky pagan symbols as to easily convert them. As they did with the yule tree. Even Halloween is basically pagan and reverted to a Christian conceptually fitted view point.

[@twowardrobeswardrobes1536]

That was down to the Romans. Absorbing and integrating different religions, gods and practices was common (and practical for an expanding empire).

[@annecurtis630]

I love these two together

[@Sharon-fw9qw]

They're the BEST!

[@Dewey_Cheatum_and_Howe]

This caller is just like flat earthers. Pitiful.

[@AmericaTheSimpleMinded]

If evolution was completely dismissed that has zero bearing on god/religion. Why can’t anyone ever demonstrate their god claim? That’s why people don’t believe in it.

[@Onganana]

God should really stop collecting mentally-challenged followers. ...it doesn't help his imaginary self and imaginary ultimate goal because he is imaginary in the minds of his followers.

[@TheistsTapOut]

We don't need videos to convince us that it's mentally superior to not believe in a talking donkey.

[@TheistsTapOut]

Here's how to tell atheists are mentally superior. Atheists don't make stupid arguments that because people have personal beliefs that those personal beliefs are correct, just because they publish good research that any scientist, regardless of their personal beliefs can review. It's almost like the personal beliefs of the scientist has nothing to do with their scientific contributions. It doesn't take much mental power to understand this and yet... some people can't figure it out and talk about the belief of scientists who happen to be significantly less religious than the general population. Education shows people to not believe in things that do not exist.

[@dwightfitch3120]

⁠@Theosis1981Yeah he doesn’t claim that most scientists believe things without evidence

[@TheistsTapOut]

​@@dwightfitch3120He has a tough time understanding things. He's a toddler philosopher trying to sound smart when he demonstrably is not. That's why he whines about mental superiority. He's very insecure... because of his mental inferiority.😂

[@TheistsTapOut]

Me: It's doesn't take much mental power to understand this... Toddler philosopher: Proceeds to not understand this.😂

[@laurajarrell6187]

Love these old ones!👍🏼💙💙💙🥰✌

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

Whether old or new, it's all the same sad and tired arguments

[@PhDPaul922]

I affirm that my particular non-theistic worldview is true. I made that decision at a young age and for the rest of my life trying to find evidence that I'm right. The stress is incredible lately because I have determined that there isn't any proof, evidence, or even a single non-fallacious rationale supporting my particular non-theistic worldview as the correct worldview. But here's what I've decided: Who cares? It's not like we really know that everything in the universe is resolved logically anyhow. So I may as well be irrational and just believe what I want. It gives me more freedom, too.

[@murali-alive]

Why? Why should christianity or any other religion has to so desperately be true? why? why not just accept a "We don't know" for things unexplained and then "let's go find out".

[@CheesyChez421]

*NUH-UH BECUZ MAGIC!*

[@nealjroberts4050]

Because finding out might mean letting go of some of their beliefs. Especially the more bigoted or prejudiced ones.

[@skindred1888]

For most issues, let's go find out or we don't know is great. For the god question...they've been told from children if they don't make a choice in what they believe...they could be damning their soul for all eternity

[@eccod]

I went to Home Depot and they had 12ft skeletons, checkmate atheists

[@TheistsTapOut]

But did you see the skeleton's birth? Checkmate skeleton believers!

[@canderson5098]

It's because one of the concrete angels in the home and garden section got pregnant and gave birth to a Home Depot Nephilim.

[@dragonhealer7588]

​@@canderson5098 Yup, totally checks out.😊

[@tylerstoakes4940]

Caller: "The first thing I've heard of in evolution is the Big Bang Theory." Caller 30s later: "I'll admit I haven't begun to scratch the surface in studying evolution." Me: The hell you say.

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

The CLAIMANT has the burden of proof. Period.

[@4dojo]

Basically the dude’s argument is the same old argument that Ken Ham has reused over and over and over: If we didn’t witness something in person then every explanation for what happened is equally valid regardless of the evidence. It’s a silly argument because if that were how anything works then detectives wouldn’t have a job.

[@Ryan-gx4ce]

It's also silly because they also did not witness God create the universe. It is a self defeating argument

[@4dojo]

@ That’s the sneaky part. Ken Ham knows that science doesn’t support his claims, but he doesn’t want to admit that the evidence points to the Big Bang or evolution, and so rather than admitting that the other side is the only one with any evidence he instead pretends that both sides are equally valid and that way he can say “both beliefs are based on faith”.

[@CheesyChez421]

I secretly groom and train poodles while everyone's backs are turned. Watch! Turn your backs!

[@flyguyry1]

And we can see how it works with every other human in the world

[@4dojo]

@ Maybe I’m slow, but I don’t understand what you mean.

[@recoverfromreligion]

Wow I have no patience for such ignorance. I’m not sure this guy made it out of the first grade.

[@cyrus3316]

So he's basically accepting anything that matches his religion as evidence, and not accepting anything that is against his religion.... And claim scientists are prejudiced 😂

[@flyguyry1]

The fact that caller doesnt understand what freedom of the press means shows how ignorant he is

[@jayrose8638]

341 days and there still hasn’t been a single convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, demigods, souls, spirits or other divine or supernatural beings. Imagine believing in something and not being able to provide a single good reason why for almost a year.

[@jpgburgess]

The strangest bit of that whole call... "I'm at college".

[@VoiceOfIrrationality]

"If you weren't there to witness it then you are just taking it on faith." This puts me in mind of the CREATIONIST INSURANCE COMPANY: "Is this the CREATIONIST INSURANCE COMPANY? I'd like to file a claim. My cabin up at the lake burned down and I had it insured against fire." "Did you actually see it burning?" "No but we came up to spend a weekend and found nothing but ashes where the cabin used to be." "Yes, but you didn't actually witness it burning, so you don't know that it really burned down. We'll have to deny your claim."

[@henrypadilla7973]

Stephan: if you believe the stories about Mt. Sinai... find it. Go ahead, show us where it is. I'll wait.

[@robertmcallister4688]

Stephan, just believe in the monochromatic rainbow unicorn in my colon that makes me poop out existence.

[@XEndlessSteelX]

"Nobody saw it, it's all faith. So you are just as bad as I" is never a good argument 😂

[@CheesyChez421]

They're basically making this argument not knowing the statement they're ultimately saying is that "faith is bullshit." Cool, so you just admitted that your entire argument of faith means nothing! You destroyed every line of apologetics with this one self-defeating one! They play themselves every time they try to make it. It's hilarious.

[@waynedexter]

“I will admit to you that I have not even really scratched the surface of studying evolution” Painfully stating the obvious, much?

[@gliblyaware]

I love that the only Robert Gentry I remember is the daytime Soap Opera actor from my childhood. Somehow that just seemed appropriate to me here. 🤣

[@roberthaas2237]

Wow, brainwashing 101

[@melodyyoung9640]

I will admit my comment is hasty. I haven't even listened yet. The tag line "don't need evidence, just believe" made me roll my eyes. I may be wrong to assume but I'll bet my knowledge and experience is slightly more extensive than the caller in some areas but I imagine they'd have some questions if I told them to do and believe what I say about certain subjects simply because I know better. It's a rule for small children so that parents can ensure their safety. I honestly think that religion is useful for those in power to maintain the juvenile aspects of cognitive development. I feel sad for those who don't have questions. They have traded their developmental maturity for a sense of security which doesn't work.

[@Lupinemancer87]

"Have we humans witnessed our births..." Parents have witnessed the birth of their children, who have witnessed the birth of their children who have then witnessed the birth of their children. So, yes, yes we have. Plus the fact that children usually have some traits carried over from at least one of the parents, or grandparents, or in some cases aunt/uncles as they are siblings of your parents and have inherited those from your grandparents, is a pretty good sign that evolution is a thing. Christianity have 0 evidence for their magical explaination. Plus, christianity as a whole is even worse off then other religions as it's not even a real religion but an amalgamation of stories stolen from older religions and folk tales from around the world. It's not even original.

[@thomasschodt7691]

Mount Sinai is evidence of the divine? New York is evidence of Spiderman?

[@advorak8529]

*I have faith* that Spiderman is real, in movies, comics and games ...

[@heiyuall]

Theists seem to feel that being allowed to join the game means winning the game. Free Speech means you can make any claim you want, but without tested and repeatable proof it stays just a claim.

[@redfoxninja3173]

Religious don'ts: Don't think, don't question and don't sin (whatever vagueness that means) Religious do's: Obey obediently, serve faithfully, and follow blindly

[@tonyclements1147]

And give money for the false hope of a Willy Wonka golden ticket to Heaven.

[@somersetcace1]

Clearly evidence is not needed for people to believe things. That kind of goes without saying if you've been on Earth longer than about 10 minutes. However, without evidence you either believe it or you don't, and that's the end of it. "Oh geez! I don't `need` evidence to believe something I don't currently believe? Well! Fancy that! I think I'll believe it now!" - Said no one, ever.

[@ScienceNotFaith]

Ramapiticus was miscategorized as a new species. It was corrected to be a fossil of A. afarensis.

[@timwhite7127]

Religion, when rationality just gets a bit too mundane for ya or sanity seems to be an illusion...

[@grantwing4942]

I didn't see any 'state' Mt Sinai was in that was any different from the other mountains around it. When I visited the only difference was all the locals selling tourist and religious souvenirs. God didn't do well in leaving his mark.

[@markoheneka]

if an idiot always says "You know..." then he is always wrong!

[@waynedexter]

It not about searching for what’s legitimate. It’s about search for what feels good. This whole country is being sucked into this type of warped epistemology

[@DrownedInExile]

People have a right to their beliefs. But facts and reality don't care about your feelings or desires. Why anyone would want to believe things that are not evidently true, and are even evidently NOT true, is baffling to me.

[@flyguyry1]

To feel better. Simply as that

[@Nivola1953]

A reminder to all creationists that, the first proponent of the Big Bang was the Catholic priest Georges Lemaître which was a physicist. The hypothesis was formulated to explain the red shift observations of distant galaxies by Edwin Hubble.

[@67cudaksa34]

and his arguments are horrible. if i do not see a fire, then the wood did not burn

[@TheistsTapOut]

A tree falls in the woods, but no one was around. So it must have not fallen.😂

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

"It cannot support bigger life forms now!" Blue Whale: "Hey!!! I'm the biggest animal and mammal to EVER LIVE!! Stop lying about me!"

[@tekbarrier]

This call was very personal to me because my best friend is a polonium halo

[@perrygershin3946]

Maybe it's just because it's late, and I'm tired, but your comment made me laugh.

[@sparki9085]

There's a lot more evidence than just "seeing something for yourself"

[@starfishsystems]

"There's a lot more TO evidence than just seeing something for yourself." There. Fixed that for you.

[@jasonnehceis3267]

If these people had the ability to think and reason in the first place, theism would have never been a problem for them.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

What the caller does not understand about the Big Bang Theory is that, everytime there is a new discovery, we examine if it confirms the Big Bang theory. If we got to a set of coherent observations leading to a different model, we would drop it.

[@SharonRipley-c9w]

Actually, increased oxygen levels in the air only helps insects. Creatures with lungs run afoul of the cube-square law long before oxygen content becomes an issue.

[@MrDalisclock]

The amount of insane handwaving from the caller is something amazing. Invokes the Exodus story to prove the Genesis creation myths.

[@annecurtis630]

Polonium halos…… seriously !

[@Certifiedhellfire]

Stephan is from 🇧🇧I know the accent well- Caribbean folks are deep in the Christian faith- it is hard to shake, even with logic

[@tiolu3129]

Basta acreditar no Coelho da Páscoa,papai noel você não precisa de evidências.

[@MichaelBath-xv5bd]

What is the matter with these callers... Where has this man Stephan been all his life.

[@Sharon-fw9qw]

They are SO brainwashed with jeebus. It took me decades to figure out it was useless myths.

[@ToddHurney]

In a cave eating mushrooms!

[@user-gk9lg5sp4y]

12 feet humans are literally impossible. Flesh and bone cannot, can not, support the weight of such a human.

[@dalecs47]

Why do religious people require your belief? They believe that god created and owns everything, like a giant HOA. These religious people have appointed themselves to be god’s HOA property managers. They make the rules, post those annoying signs, collect the rents, impose penalties and keep a large slice of god’s property rent income, for themselves, not for god.

[@djehutisundaka7998]

There's no such geographical place as 'Mt. Sinai'. It's a J-document storybook location that doesn't conform to any actual geographical description. That's why no one has ever been able to provide a proof positive identification for such a place and can only speculate between a few different places.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

The reason why creationism does not get a foothold in science is because it does not resist confrontation with scientific rigour.

[@tedgrant2]

Furthermore I want to make a different point.

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

Seems like "furthermore my script says"

[@mattivirolainen6102]

I don’t understand how I could choose to have certain faith. I could lie of course and play along but that would be entirely without meaning. I haven’t even arrived at atheism through some rational process-it’s just the default setting where I come from.

[@me977]

My family has a video of my emergence, there are birthmarks on that baby that match my body, I have witnessed my birth

[@isancicramon0926]

Not trusting your parents on your birth is an insane moral position, close to solipsism.

[@sstratford123]

Are you going to have a post election cast? I hope so

[@Skeptic-f1n]

26:05 😂 this is pure comedy 😂😂😂😂😂

[@peronkop]

Remember when this type of person was rare?

[@ronthered138]

The surest sign that they have lost is when they keep trying to move on to something else. How the hell is an ANTHROPOLOGIST going to prove the existence of god? This is nowhere in their purview of science.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

Imagine an all powerful g0d that created humans and who really wants those humans to believe he exists, but the best he can come up with to convince humans he is real are people like the caller Stephan.

[@damonkenny3444]

When you’re sitting in your gay partner QCs lap. Does it give you a little chubby?

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

Apot was showing DaMonKey his dick And DK did likewise just as quick Apot said "No! It's too long and thin! And it's gonna go way too far in! While short and thick will do the trick!

[@jaflenbond7854]

@@holgerlubotzki3469 What were written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 22: 37, John 17: 3, and Matthew 28: 18 that the CREATOR is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD and JESUS CHRIST is the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth are WORTHLESS and USELESS, NO VALUE WHATSOEVER to Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who clearly don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings, obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their - 1. Satanic LIE and claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, shame, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS to their own families and neighbors. ATHEISM and ALL KINDS of RELIGIONS are WORTHLESS and USELESS, NO VALUE WHATSOEVER to LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons who WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER because their submissiveness to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely be favored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@damonkenny3444 👈👈👈 another example of the failure of an omniscient deity to find a messenger with more charisma, intelligence, or oratory skills than a garden variety cabbage!

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@jaflenbond7854 Oodnadatta

[@nj1978]

I love that bibleists thick we need to take them seriously, as they start talking about giants 😂😂

[@annepoitrineau5650]

I used to work in a research lab, and I am a mathematician. Some of us believed, most of us did not. If I see real evidence, reproducible etc, I will believe in god. At this point, I know of nothing that does. Granted: I am not really that interested so I am not looking, I have better things to do. My colleagues just accepted it was a question of faith. There was only one who ever tried to proselytise. He was not a good researcher and never finished his PhD. His wife was also in our group and she was great. I never knew what her religion if any was, but she also left when he gave up, and we all thoguht it was a terrible shame. Humans 12 ft tall never existed.

[@lukeanderson439]

What year is this? Logo covers the date.

[@Sean-oy8xm]

You can go to 100 different Christian homes and get 100 different versions of Christianity. You can go to 100 different Christian homes and the science never varies.

[@JasonMiller-jx1lw]

Holy poop... This Gentry guy literally says GENESIS in the abstract of his CENSORED PAPERS. Gee.... I wonder why they were censored.... That ain't science numpty.

[@Rage867]

Theists all think that anyone can just start by beleiving. Like as if i could wake up one day and decide that rabbit curry ice cream was my favorite flavor. I could go around all day telling everyone how good rabbit curry ice cream is but that will never change the fact that my actual favorite flavor is coconut curry ice cream!. Imagine worshiping a god you think you can trick!

[@rocketrabble6737]

Dr Robert Gentry, the young earth creationist scientist. His claims were dismissed as nonsense by the 'scientific community'