Atheist Experience 22.15 with Tracie Harris and Eric Murphy

[@AnneOfGreenEggsAndHam]

Eric’s reference was so so cute. “That word. I don’t think it means what you think it does.” Adorable.

[@Never-mind1960]

Christ-insanity -- the belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.

[@forallthestupidshit3550]

Roger Foster hahaha. Awesome

[@alexisdrai]

Oh my flying spaghetti monster, I should write a java program that emulates that and see where it makes my laptop melt x)

Roger Foster ! Your ignorant of the bible is showing !! read your bible so you`ll know more about what your talking about !! sincerely RH,

[@doubledoubleyou2838]

Rose Hinton ! Your insults and insinuations instead of arguments are much more revealing your own ignorance !! I'll pray for you,

HEY Atheist`s, your eternity will depend on who`s word you choose to believe while your here, psalms 14:1" thr--, 6, The fool hath said in his/ her, heart, there is no God , they are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good, " 2' The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God, " 3" They are all gone aside, they are altogether become filthy : there is none that doeth good, no, not one," 4" Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? Who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD:" 5" There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous", 6" Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge", So if you want to continue in your ignorance , Your Choice !! its your soul thats in eternal danger , not mine !! faith, is just believing what the bible says, if its the KJ 1611 authorized bible, that is, but Hey , some people will never come to the knowledge of the truth, even though its right in front of them, How tragic !!sincerely RH !!

[@ronhoek69]

Tracie is so much better in explaining atheism.

[@forallthestupidshit3550]

Ron i love her! And she always seems to give callers the benefit of the doubt. She really spends time letting people voice their thoughts.

[@raw_oyster]

Better than who???

[@skunk12]

Raw Oyster better than who? hellen keller.

[@TheBenballs99]

Tracie is my favorite person on this show by far and always has been. I always liked Matt but recently he seems to need to mention how famous he's getting like every episode and it's turning me off.

[@ProfOak-dx6np]

Raw Oyster than Matt. Guy is pretty arrogant, she’s an angel

[@thejester57]

Watching this in 2024, I love these 2 hosts so much!! I love the way the break things down and stay so cool about it until warranted to lose it. I'll be binge watching these old episodes.

[@samgamgee3622]

Re: "Constellations are bound together by gravity" No they aren't. The stars you see in a constellation may appear to be clustered when you view them from Earth but if you could fly out view them from the side they aren't clustered together at all. Some of the stars we see in a constellation are much, much further away than the others. eg. The three stars in Orion's belt are 817, 916 and 1340 light years away from Earth. If you saw them from the side in relatino to earth there's no way you'd say they were clustered together.

[@RonaldStepp]

Amen to that.

[@jonjosenna5581]

That’s true, but on a galactic scale. They are still bound by gravity.

[@RonaldStepp]

The stars I am talking about are not on a galactic scale.

[@Jenalgo]

Bullshit. Everything is subject to gravity you fucktard flat earther.

[@amandarios448]

@@RonaldStepp still gravity keeps them in place. But nothing in outer space is "close"

[@coffey3c]

As for the first caller. Tracie did an awesome job of pointing out that stellar constellations are those that we can see with the naked eye, and that in the mind of the uninformed, that is simply the appearance they have. However, they are not bound by gravity, as a star and its satellites would be. The stars in a constellation - as seen from earth at this moment in time - are moving through space more or less independently. They orbit the galactic center, and are affected by the gravitational pull and perturbations of other nearby stars and stellar groups, but they are not bound as a unit. Over time the shape of the constellations, the positions of the stars that we can see from earth, have and will continue to change. The three stars in Orion's Belt, for instance, are simply three stars in that general direction from Earth. They are close to Eight-hundred, Nine hundred, and Thirteen-hundred and fifty. light years away from us, meaning that they are a hundred, and hundreds, of light years distant from each other.

[@pretzelogic2689]

Right. If gravity was responsible, they would all be heading toward each other (and they may be, but very, very slowly). They stay together because they all developed in one, single, large system with the one inertial momentum.

[@Rmdesimone]

They are 900,1300, and 800 light years away from us. Just for reference.

[@henrikrolfsen584]

The stars in "Orian's Belt" are not close enough to each other, to be "bound together by gravity".

[@KnightsAndDarths]

Love Tracie =) she's not as confrontational as other hosts but she does call bullshit when she hears bullshit.

[@wimsweden]

Maybe this will help Ben & Elijah understand the misconception in their question "When does species A turn into species B?": It doesn't, it's too gradual. It's like asking someone what the point is when a person goes from being young to being old. There is no such point. Similarly, there was never a first speaker of Spanish, a first speaker of French etc.

[@KnightsAndDarths]

Good analogies

[@wimsweden]

Thanks

[@Salwerth2822]

That's a great way of explaining that. Thanks!

[@wimsweden]

Thank you

[@ProfOak-dx6np]

That’s a nice analogy, however we DO classify organisms different species at the point where they no longer reproduce and create fertile offspring that can subsequently reproduce and produce the same species

[@JonXarteros]

Andrew's call made me chuckle. When you say "As far as the east is from the west", not only does that NOT imply that the Earth is round; it actually implies that the Earth is flat. If the Earth is round, West and East are not usable as distances. If you travel East long enough, you end up West of your original position. However, if the Earth was flat, then the distance between the western edge and the eastern edge would actually be measurable, and thereby be a suitable comparison of scale for illiterate goat herders of the time.

[@derekmizer6293]

Exactly what I thought.

[@IRGeamer]

The bible is like a person, if you torture it enough you can make it say whatever you want it to say.

[@freshairkaboom8171]

Tracie ages like a fine wine

[@lisaspikes4291]

When you were talking about morality in animals I was reminded of the experiment where they had two monkeys in separated cages, but they could see each other. They gave them cucumbers and grapes. When they were both getting cucumbers, everything was fine. But then they started giving one of the monkeys grapes, but still gave the other cucumbers. The one who was getting cucumbers quickly became upset. It is fascinating to watch.

[@lynettekomidar2819]

My birds do that too.

[@captiinahab8118]

Damn I wish I could have made it to one of their aftershow parties before the AE Exodus. Hope everyone is well keep up the good work.

[@ayokryss]

“Are there any flaws in Christian logic” LOL

[@stevekap8]

The bit about east and west is so funny. In fact, it show the writer DIDNT know the world was round! In a round world, east and west meet!

[@andyholland9623]

That was the most responsible, respectful shows that I've had the pleasure of watching. Well done to all involved and thank you for your service

[@LadyPosche]

There’s always silence before the excuse.

[@JazzyJonas]

Tracie seems to be growing younger. Lookin' good! Not trying to be creepy. Eric looks good too. It's weird how open-mindedness and intelligence just makes people look beautiful to me.

[@BuddhaAtheist29]

It's her big beautiful brain.

[@mgenetos]

Frog is hopping around a pond. Pond one summer dries up. Frog ADAPTS to this new environment. Another Frog dies. First Frog survives and has 20 kids. Each of those Frogs is a different shade of green. 10 lighter, 10 darker. Spring monsoons come and dark green mud slides down the mountain into the pond and brings with it an alligator. Alligator eats all the light Frogs over the next few months while the darker Frogs hide camouflaged against the mud. The alligator leaves the pond when it half-dries up in the summer. The light green Frogs never had a chance to have kids. The dark green frogs all have kids. Some kids are lighter but more are darker. Some of the Frogs have shorter tongues and some of the Frogs have longer tongues irrespective of their color. Late summer that year a record swarm of locusts comes to the pond but they never land, only stay a foot off the water. The Frogs with the shorter tongues can’t reach the locusts, the longer tongued Frogs engorge themselves. Fall comes, then Winter. It’s a brutal Winter and only the fattest Frogs survive. Spring comes and the rain is normal this year. Just enough to make the pond swimmable but not enough to attract any alligators. The Frogs all have babies. Some of the babies are light green, more are dark, some have short tongues, more have longer tongues, some have shorter legs, some have longer legs. The better swimming conditions make competition for mating increase. Times are good in the pond. Plenty of bugs, no predators, temperate climate. The lady Frogs become picky and want to mate with the fast swimmers. Unfortunately for the short legged boy Frogs, most of them never have kids. This cycle of, dry ponds, introduced predators, robust amounts of prey, competition for sex; continues for generation, and generation etc. We return to the pond and single out one Frog. This Frog is darker green than the original Frog, he has much longer legs than the original Frog, his tongue is longer than the original Frog, he’s a faster swimmer too. In fact the population as a whole-though diversity is apparent-are darker, longer legged, longer tongued, and faster swimmers than the original Frog. This is Evolution through natural selection. Small changes over time. Another pond on the other side of the mountain had more light green mud, and never dried up in the summers, had slower year round predators, had lots of smaller bugs that moved quickly, and lots of Lilly pads that the other pond was lacking. The Frogs here are lighter green on average, have shorter tongues to catch quicker bugs, and have developed sticky feet with big suction cups to hold onto wet Lilly pads. Much more practical than longer legs with streamlined toes. Though these Frogs great great great grand parents are the brothers and sisters of the original Frog from the dark mud pond these Frogs can no longer mate with the Frogs in the dark mud pond. Too many small changes over time. This is speciation. A third pond and another group of Frogs...just kidding this comment is long enough.

[@samforsyth]

Oh wow! Tracie’s layered and thorough description of evolution to Ben & Elija is so brilliantly put...

[@benetton66]

Tracy you are brilliant.

[@MrRbuxton]

Orion's belt is from Greece predating that book.

I really enjoy your videos. It must be a tough job in the US to explain atheism. Respect!

[@jaymed7082]

I PRAY TO GAWD THAT ALL THE HOST OF AXP WILL HAVE A REUNION!

[@AbrahamMeat]

Comments are back.

[@exiledfrommyself]

Abraham Meat They'll cut off the comments soon.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Hmm. Could that not have been expressed with a single character like a comma or the letter "a" or a smiley or whatever? Why the redundancy?

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Robert Kaufman Not until someone put in that first entry somewhere =.O

[@jesschappellable]

My biggest problem with Noah's arc is the implementation of the rainbow - that light supposedly didn't behave that way before the flood.

[@latetodagame1892]

Ancient goat herders were high!

[@orias12]

That one deist caller near the end, I can totally relate to him in some ways. I also started out as a believer, but I couldn’t fathom the contradictions in my parents christian faith. I tried just being agnostic, but I couldn’t help but feel judged and hated by the Christian god for not worshipping Jesus. So I then started looking for the qualities that I thought a god would or should possess. I saw myself creating this vision of a perfect god that was almost like the Buddha, unconditional in every way. Then i finally realized that all I was doing was creating a convenient lie that I could easily believe in and prescribe to, when in reality I actually didn’t believe in anything at all. So I finally became an athiest, and I happily wait for some real evidence.

[@digitalspecter]

Wait what, if you take roundness into "as far as east is from the west" don't you eventually end up in the same place?

[@Spitfire_2600]

Love Tracie, starting to really like Eric. :D

[@jckensway2956]

I’m slightly suspicious of Ben and Elijah. I feel bad about that!

[@jppan2261]

they probably don't accept evolution by natural selection as true. I assume their religion isn't consistent with nat sel, so they wrongly conclude that you can't prove or disprove nat sel.

[@phillipmoore9012]

One analogy I have used for speciation is the Roman Empire. A couple thousand years ago they spread far and wide. The ruling class spoke Roman Latin. This Roman Latin became isolated and slowly changed over time. Now we have the "Romance" languages French, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, and Romanian. At no point did a mother's child suddenly speak a different language. Biology's binomial nomenclature -- that is two names like Rosa multiflora, the genus (like "generic") and species (like "specific") only works over the passage of time. At no point did one species suddenly become another. The most general definition is whether two organisms can still successfully breed.

[@allangabrielle5215]

You guys are amazing. Shout out from Puerto Rico!

[@howardroark8553]

They're celebrating 200k subs just 4 years ago. Look where they are now, so great to see that.

[@jeffcolorado]

Thumbs up given because comments are back on. Thank you. I enjoy the discussions here, and can easily ignore the foolish comments that are made.

[@heoltelwen3605]

With the caller Jimmy, I wished they would have gotten to one of the main problems with his view regarding mystical experiences: How do you know that these experiences are veridical? How do you know that they actually correspond to anything real? This is what Matt asked him the last time and he couldn't answer. His argument is exactly the same argument that theists make: "I had a deep emotional experience: therefore, God exists." Jimmy's argument does no more to prove his claim, then does the theist's appeal to experience. Not to mention that neuroscience has vindicated the philosopher Immanuel Kant's position in regard to his conception of the mind and our cognitive faculties - our mind is actively constructing the world; and so it's no wonder that when your brain's chemistry is altered, the output you get is crazy hallucinations and the like. Just because your brain outputs something into your visual field or your phenomenological field, that doesn't mean it's anymore real than effects that are inserted into a film after it's been shot. Jimmy needs to do more than just appeal to the qualitative feature of those experiences to establish his claim.

[@Torwyn11]

Birds ARE dinosaurs, just as dogs are mammals, and for the same reason.

[@TheGreatestOfAllLostArts]

Eric is a very professional and likeable host

[@MikeMacLeod76]

Morality is an evolutionary imperative. Without it, the species does not survive. Thou shalt not kill....well that's just an obvious survival trait. If a species kills itself, beyond necessary population control, then it ceases to exists. Thou shall not steal...working together and sharing resources has been a massive boon to large scale human survival. Stealing and hoarding has not. There is fundamental morality that all human beings instinctively know, because we have evolved to recognise these positive traits as traits that ensure the survival of the species.

[@MrCanis4]

And Morality can survive without religion. You want proof? 'ME'.

[@dwendt44]

Most morality existed long before religions claimed THEY were the source.

[@dwendt44]

We can explain about talking to a burning bush. A volcanic gas vent ignites, a bush growing next to it burns to a crisp. But doesn't collapse. The vent makes odd noises and someone who's a little off mentally could think that hiss is a voice.

[@fasillimerick7394]

I loathe the patronizing expression "Oh, bless his heart", but if ever a person embodied such tripe it is poor Andrew.

[@jakesoriedem4747]

#1 show

[@Unkempt27]

With regards to the 'when does dog A become dog B', here's how I like to approach it. We're all familiar with the picture of the evolution of man, with the ape on all 4s, then the ape walking on 2 legs etc up to modern man. It's not that one day step 3 in that picture gave birth to step 4. There might be 1000 small changes between step 3 and 4, which accumulated over many generations. Let's call step 3 '0' and step 4 '1000'. 0 and 1 would be almost identical, 376 and 377 would be almost identical, and 999 and 1000 would be almost identical. But undoubtedly 0 is different from 1000, so we call them a different species. As to at what point we call them a different species would be a matter of debate, for example would 500 belong to the same species as 0, or 1000, or be a species of its own? Here's where the arguments between evolutionary biologists lie, not in whether or not evolution actually happens. Good on the guys for calling in and sincerely asking, too many theists reject evolution without understanding it, such as believing, using the above example, that step 3 suddenly one day gave birth, or morphed in to, step 4. When they do this they make a fool of themselves. I always encourage these people to go away and study it and understand it. After all, if their belief in God is unshakeable, they have nothing to worry about!

[@ludwigvanzappa9548]

Congratulations to all of you !

[@joecoolioness6399]

Dude, why the hell would you not start with your best evidence? These callers! Waste so much time with BS.

[@blixx8931]

26:40 Tracie said atheists can be wrong about things sometimes!! HOW DARE SHE EXPOSE OUR WEAKNESSES!!!

[@mr.d.8121]

But then an atheists weakest point is still stronger than a theists 'strength' 😇

[@blixx8931]

@@mr.d.8121 Indeed😌

[@j.r.arnolli7494]

Because she dares

[@BillyBong]

Why does the one guy think we are 2 dimensional beings?

[@gmac4157]

I have been watching theses vids for some time. I'm a an Australian and I live in a very secular society, I have been an Atheist all my life and for the most part thought nothing of it. I am 63 years old and am gay. Growing up and listening to the gay community, I considered "coming out" was one of life's most painful requirements not experienced by most of the population. However, my heart breaks now for theist's coming out in America who have to relate their non belief to their families. When you think of it, gays got off lightly, much of the western world have approved gay right's (including my own country), even the Church kind of lets us off with phrases like "hate the sin, love the sinner. But be a an Atheist and announce that you no longer believe in their fairy tales and you are dead to them. America....I am now speechless !!

[@Johnmhatheist]

As an american atheist, I envy you. I hate living in a religious society.

[@jessicahope9744]

They should make and sell tee shirts that say, we should wait until we count the gumballs. It could be an atheist version of a jebus shirt. I would totally buy one!

[@Shadowchild695]

1:45:20 Talk about being flustered when faced with reality.

[@56Long21]

Thanks crew! I needs me some logic.

[@BolasDaGrk]

1:02:57 Is the "apparently meme kid" grown up and calling AtheistExperience?

[@randywhite6468]

Even though we can't physically see the entire electromagnetic spectrum, we can detect all of it. You can't see radio waves but there is no doubt about there existence, and we have equipment today that actually let's us see things in all these different wavelengths.

[@Queenread82]

I just looked up Hellenism, which predates Christianity. People still follow it and have continuously practiced it for millennia. I grew up thinking it was history, not an active belief, so to read that it never stopped being practiced, was just overshadowed by christianity, blew my mind. The antiquity claim must make Zeus more of a god than Jesus.

[@MCodger]

Worldwide flood 4000 years ago is generally understood...? Did anyone tell the Australian aborigines, who have been there 35000 years?

[@j.r.arnolli7494]

Clyde S. Dale / good swimmers?!??

[@MCodger]

@@j.r.arnolli7494 with a kangaroo under each arm, MAYBE...LOL

[@Salwerth2822]

I've never looked at those fox experiments from a standpoint of morality. An example of applied evolution and changes in social interaction, but the association between social species as it applies to morality, no. And it makes a lot of sense! Thank you Tracie! I learned something new today. You have a way of explaining things that isn't only instructive. You make the people interacting with you feel like they are part of the process. How awesome is that!

[@dwendt44]

IIRC, that 'experiment ' ended up taking over 20 years to 'domesticate' foxes to a 'dog' state.

[@segolamegumede5687]

i am the 201k'th subscriber yaaay!

[@anthonyromano8565]

They must have forgot to block comments

[@skunk12]

Anthony Romano yeah, fuck that weak sauce. Who can stand comment blockers? They hide behind the excuse of directing comments to their site and inbox. I don't buy it. Why cant they simply say, "We don't monitor youtube comments. Feel free to engage each other, but if you want to have a chance at having us reply, leave comments on our site"?

[@TheBenballs99]

I think it's more that the page got flooded with insane people that just spammed everyone else out of the conversation. You could make a point that it's not necessary to block comments when that happens but I think they didn't want to give angry, hateful people a forum to be angry and hateful toward their fans.

[@davidwright834]

to paraphrase Matt: the first person that tripped and fell discovered gravity

[@Molandria]

11:22 While true they don't survive for days, there is the case of Michael Packard, who was swallowed whole by a Humpback Whale, and survived! :)

[@jamiegallier2106]

He wasn’t swallowed whole- he wasn’t swallowed. He was held in the whales mouth for a bit and wouldn’t have survived had he not had a scuba tank on him. Cool story tho, lucky the whale spit him out and didn’t do a deep dive.

[@Molandria]

@jamiegallier2106 Oh yes, vsry lucky the whale spit him out! lol, tha should go without saying. I'm glad my little jest/for fun comment inspired you to look it up. ;) But do relax a bit. It was all in good fun. lol.

[@jamiegallier2106]

@@Molandria I already knew the story quite well, having followed it closely when it happened. Quite remarkable he survived- without his diving gear that short period in the whale’s mouth would have ended him. It’s a cool story.

[@Molandria]

@jamiegallier2106 Its real nutty! Was watching one where this person was face to face with some squid, i forget the type, but one attacked to see if he was food. By chance the beak was hitting some metal thing. It was quite confused for a while, and then decided nah, and the swarm moved on

[@joecoolioness6399]

wow I always thought Jonah was swallowed by a whale, the Hebrew text actually says big fish. Another misconception from the bible. But it is infallible? My ass.

[@glutinousmaximus]

Measuring the metre (or maybe 'meter' where you come from :0) The metre is defined as the length of the path traveled by light in a vacuum in one 299,792,458th of a second. See Wiki.

[@ricardovonkrypton8908]

They don't appear to be discussing the measurement-of-length meter. I think they mean a 'metric', a method and scale of measurement for anything. Like a gas or electric meter. A way of measurinf how much X has been used.

[@glutinousmaximus]

@@ricardovonkrypton8908 Thanks Ricardo. You're probably right. The etymology is Latin/Old French : métron, “measure", "rule", "length", "size", "poetic metre”. Thanks again.

[@magetaaaaaa]

We should probably wait until we count the gumballs

[@bigskyski1]

To Ben and Eli who asked about evolution. Mutation is one of the reasons for speciation and evolution. A mutation isnt always a bad thing (although it might be a scary word) some mutations can add benifits to an organism while others are detrimental and some do nothing at all.

[@annemariehovgaard3870]

I think the current best estimate is that slightly more than half do nothing much (at least at first, until the changes add up) or nothing that makes any real difference; most of the rest are harmful, and a fairly small number are positive for the organism/genetic survival.

[@bigskyski1]

anne marie Hovgaard my major is genetics and i have never read a study that supports that. Do you have a source i could read ?

[@mr.d.8121]

I like Eric's gumball analogy

[@latetodagame1892]

🤣

[@IRGeamer]

I have lost track of how many calls from Andrew I have heard and he has never, ever failed to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he is incapable of listening to anything he doesn't want to hear. EDIT: Jimmy is falling into the same wilfully ignorant trap.

[@GeneralZod99]

I can't help but notice that at times Eric misses the question that is being asked and gives an answer to a different question. For example, at one point Ben and Elijah asked, "Why don't you believe in God?" and Eric trotted out the gumball analogy and went on to explain that not believing that the jar has an even # of gumballs is not the assertion that you believe that the # is odd. This would have been perfectly acceptable had they framed the question as, "Why do you believe that there is no god?" but they hadn't asked that.

[@joecoolioness6399]

I agree, a simpler answer is "Atheists don't believe the claim that god or gods exist." I personally have not found any so called evidence presented to be convincing.

[@LoganAddisMusic]

1:07:19 the big takeway

[@flurry1337]

to the guy with the A and B Dogs. Its not that A Dog has A offspring but rather A.1 offspring and the offspring themselves have A.2 offspring and in time A.9999292912... offspring will no longer be able to interbreed with the original A Dog and therefore become Dog B.

[@chezeus1672]

it's actually a little more complicated. this effect happens with all of dog A's descendants. so dog A has given birth to dog A.1 and dog A.2, and their descendants will at some point become dogs B and C who cannot breed anymore. if dog A still exists, it's possible that both dog B and dog C can still breed with dog A, but not with each other. that's basically how ring species work. of course, it's still very simplified because evolution affects populations, not individuals.

[@adrianjanssens7116]

What a great piece of music you have as an intro. Please share who the artist is and the name of this piece. Please keep up your good work.

[@ZeroSum23]

The music is credited in the video description. Click where it says "show more" just below the video and then scroll down.

[@gottliebdee263]

Jimmy completely boggled my mind.

[@derekmizer6293]

Theists, let me help u understand evolution. It works similar to languages. To ask when did a dog give birth to a cat is similar to asking when did Latin speaking parents give birth to English speaking ones. The answer is never even though we do have cats and english speaking children.

[@houndofzoltan]

The term mètre ("measure"), a basic unit of length, is defined as equal to one ten-millionth of the distance between the North pole and the equator.

[@witch3944]

wow a round of great calls

[@johnblackledge4009]

"Can you bind the Pleiades together" (or something like that) - Oo, oo, I know this one, miss!... the writer of Job is challenging that 'God' did bind the Pleiades together, but the reader never could. 'Bind' - ? fair enough, it's a challenge to a human being. But gravity as such is never mentioned.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

i think the stars may be in the same constellation but a lot of them are nowhere near the others...it's a visual illusion. did you know there are 88 constellations, makes horoscopes a bit difficult eh?

[@andrewsarchus7319]

Andrew from Twitsburg

[@kayallen7603]

We have MORALITY because we evolved as a group-living primate species where individual survival depended upon group cooperation. Cooperating with the group improved individual survival long enough for he/she or procreate and raise offspring.

[@Never-mind1960]

Theistic morality: A individual theist's opinion about the opinion of ancient barbarians, written in sketchy texts. Theistic morality is merely multilayered subjectivity. Theists play the "how do you know" game in order to avoid this fact. Homey atheist don't play dat game.

[@forallthestupidshit3550]

Roger Foster Theists are also big fans of "who are you to make your own morals? I get my morals from an invisible monster that is much better than you." ...props to you homes

[@derekmizer6293]

Theists are not moral. They are robots who follow orders.

[@Cairothejackal]

We will see how long comments stay before spammers force them to take them down.

[@skunk12]

Cairo Jackal how on earth can "spammers" force The Atheist Experience to do anything at all? Not so sure you understand how comments work.

[@sharmila8357]

It was all the sexual comments about the female hosts.

[@donaldcook2484]

Anytime I want to solidify how delusional people are here in America I tune in to the show and simply shake my head in disbelief.

[@publicguy1664]

I think the caller pair were trolls. When you call an atheist show to ask, what is atheism, you're wasting everyone's time when 3 seconds of searching would answer that question. But as an atheist, when you know religion is all lies, its very hard to recognize someone who is genuine when you feel like every theist has to be lying. Also, its ok to take the calls of trolls, they have lots of time to fill, lol, especially running 2 whole shows now.

[@Salwerth2822]

I don't agree. If the option is available and you have the time, better to ask a person directly and have a conversation about it. I've had friends, family members, and mere acquaintances ask me about atheism and it's never a waste of time. What I find wasteful are the 245 calls asking that we "look at the trees!"

[@publicguy1664]

Trips: My point is, it feels disingenuous when someone calls and asks, what is an atheist, the word is self defining, a(a common prefix meaning without) theism(religious belief). People really sound stupid when they ask what we believe in. It's like ordering a vegetarian meal then asking what kind of meat it has in it.

[@Salwerth2822]

Public Guy I understand. To us it's simple. Many of the theists I've talked with get confused. For example, they hear us discuss evolution, physics and logical fallacies, and that can be intimidating. They actually think these things are a subset of atheism itself. Many more hear about us second hand from other theists, muddying the waters even more. It can seem disengenuous, and I'd agree that some of the callers are in fact pranks. I'd still prefer the give and take of a conversation like this to yet another caller not understanding how we can be moral without God. I've seen so many Christians go against their own moral preaching that it seems they don't even consider "God" outside of Sunday mass. How could they even ask such a question? Come to think of it, we're both probably on the same page. The questions they ask come down to semantics. lol

[@publicguy1664]

Trips:(2nd reply), Yeah, I think it's kind of funny that they can't understand that not accepting a god claim has to inform your entire world view, the way them accepting it does. They can't get that evolution, being convinced of other scientific facts, or your view on foreign policy are all separate issues you take on an individual basis.

[@EraserHead777]

If you claim to know that all religion is lies then you are not an atheist. Because that would imply that you have all knowledge. That would mean that you believe you are god.

[@bobbyashrimp]

Religion on science: We hooked up once, me and Veronica Vaughan. . . Reality: No you didn't.

[@WizardImp]

"Ben and Elijah" are either playing dumb or this is the first time they've spoken to someone from outside their church group.

[@HENRYFOLEY]

Where has Tracie gone?

[@donbacker9883]

She is hosting another show not affiliated with the ACA. Do a search for "Godless Bitches."

[@CMBR]

On the 4th of July 1054, a supernova exploded. It was visible for another 2 years and finally what is left of it, we now know as the Crab Nebula. That caused the great mystical experience to some and not to others. But Jimmy doesn’t know that. 😂

[@RonaldStepp]

The stars in Pleiades are not bound together by gravity, they are in some cases hundreds of light years apart. THEY ONLY LOOK CLOSE TOGETHER LOOKING AT THEM FROM EARTH.

[@moonled]

Andrew says the book is scientifically sound but it didn't know the difference between a fish and a whale.

[@joecoolioness6399]

Or a bat and a bird. Exactly what you would expect from ancient ignorant authors. NOT what you would expect from divinely inspired authors.

[@ChugHammer]

Doesn't mutation play a bigger role in evolution that Tracie let on? She was talking about natural selection being the process of reproduction where positive traits are favorable and this leads a spices to greater survival but aren't those traits coming initially from mutation? She made it seem like mutation was more of a negative, but sometimes a positive result from reproduction that is a parallel to natural selection.

[@tedgrant2]

In Matthew chapter 15 starting are verse 32, Jesus told his disciples that he wanted to feed the multitude (four thousand men, besides women and children), but the disciples were wondering how this could be done. This is puzzling, because only one chapter earlier, he had fed a bigger multitude (five thousand men, besides women and children) already. In both cases they had several baskets of food left over, which is not surprising really, given what he conjured up. Bread and fish ! No chicken fried rice. No chicken and mushrooms. No curry sauce. No prawn crackers.

[@derekmizer6293]

No General Tso Chicken?

[@Puchuchi747]

Second caller, Jimmy, ... wow. Just wow. Doesnt understand what a fact is, he just disagrees because "he thinks" Tracie was "wrong" and this is how religion works. I wish every religious person out there good luck, and I hope you have a wonderful day!

[@needtoknowbasis3499]

That opening song made me a Christian.

[@andresvillarreal9271]

The comment that Ben or Elijah is a presup is not constructive nor precise. Presupositionalists do not even start a conversation without shouting that you cannot think, breathe or live without God. If you can talk with this person, get him to accept some things, reach divergent conclusions on others, and all the while not hear the word God in almost every phrase, he/she is not a presup.

[@simvalue]

Where can I sign up to be a call screener?

[@thatguyky]

in response to the first caller. The Pleiades are not bound together nor are the stars of Orion. They are lightyears apart from each other. It'sjust from our perspective we can't perceive the different distances from earth with the naked eye.

[@donbacker9883]

Indeed. That's some severe ignorance he's spouting.

[@LinksPB]

The caller is definitely spouting bs, but the Pleiades ARE gravitationaly bound, even if loosely. They will be eventually broken apart, but they are an open cluster, which tend to be together for a few hundred million years according to current models.

[@logicmofo4810]

Why have comments on nearly ALL videos been disabled?

[@marinaproger2324]

Do people understand that constellations are basically a game of connect the dots?

[@necko2529]

Many don't. Most people can't begin to imagine how big our Galaxy is let alone the observable universe. I think theists think that god sprinkled the stars over the dome for our amusement, not understanding that our galaxy and the stars in it are within a 3D space and the stars that make up constellations aren't same distance away from us but rather spaced out by hundreds and thousands of light years in all directions...

[@D-LineReviews]

They’re god believed seeds die and then a plant grows…. Very common beliefs of the day but very HUMAN

[@skuuvatakis]

Ben and Elijah should read a book or two or a thousand.

[@sexybeast1701]

Josh wait for people to stop talking, so that you’re not talking over them

[@coolstoryneedsmoredragons4336]

psalms are songs, sure its poetry but at the time of creation were poetic songs

[@bjornfelle]

I can't believe people are still questioning natural selection as a method of speciation. We know from fossil records, genetic profiling, morphology, archaeology, geology and anthropology that we are ancestrally related to other apes, but a human sex cell cannot combine with any other ape's counterpart and produce a viable foetus. So this is clear evidence of natural selection producing different species. Add to this the erroneous account of creation in genesis (birds and whales being crated in the ocean before land-based animals, for example, when we know that insects and reptiles evolved before birds and whales, and that whales were not originally sea-dwelling but were land mammals which returned to the ocean) and it's pretty clear that the biblical account is not a suitable counter-argument to the clear evidence for evolution by natural selection. Denying this is clearly irrational, and it terrifies me that we are still talking about this 2000 years later.