Atheist Experience 24.21 with Matt Dillahunty & Johnny

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@TheAtheistExperience
@TheAtheistExperience 4 жыл бұрын
00:06:35 Javier - FL 00:28:22 Dormand - NJ 00:39:59 Nathan - CO 00:47:53 David - CO 01:03:35 Zachary - AL 01:31:51 Raul - TX
@Thedoctorjosh
@Thedoctorjosh 4 жыл бұрын
If it's not too much trouble, could you please go back to adding a one-line description of each call? Thanks!
@spitz5183
@spitz5183 4 жыл бұрын
Thejosh Yeah, what happened to that?
@timmy3982
@timmy3982 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thedoctorjosh i think they wait till they edit each clip for individual videos. Takes a day or two.
@Vivi2372
@Vivi2372 4 жыл бұрын
Descriptions of the calls are in the video description.
@spitz5183
@spitz5183 4 жыл бұрын
Vivi2372 No, they’re not?
@Guitcad1
@Guitcad1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm noticing a disturbing rise lately in the number of people willing to say that they don't object to slavery.
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's crazy.
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 4 жыл бұрын
@Ja L Well said.
@GapWim
@GapWim 4 жыл бұрын
Warstar | While the language isn’t helpful in a conversation, I have to admit you wrote exactly what I was thinking.
@gspendlove
@gspendlove 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll Looks like you're just another Cafeteria Christian who doesn't know his Bible and believes whatever his religious leader tells him to believe. And that's a shame.
@gspendlove
@gspendlove 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll "There is no scripture for rape or child marriage." Imagine believing this.
@Elintasokas
@Elintasokas 4 жыл бұрын
45:35 had me rolling on the floor. "When I'm crossing a street, it's worthwhile for me to know whether or not there's a bus coming at me?" - "Yeah, I suppose". He SUPPOSES it's useful. Wow.
@992turbos
@992turbos 4 жыл бұрын
When I was young, I asked my father what heaven is like, and his answer was, “Not sure, no one’s ever lived to tell the tale.”
@zoggdawg8141
@zoggdawg8141 4 жыл бұрын
King Solomon Unless you’re in a horrible amount of suffering.... then it’s not so good....
@dollarbill2208
@dollarbill2208 4 жыл бұрын
That was a good answer. You should be proud!
@rickdees251
@rickdees251 4 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Shaw If just anyone is free to say what it's like, then just anyone is free to say something different. N.Korea is ruled by an asserted son of a God so who's to disagree.
@zoggdawg8141
@zoggdawg8141 4 жыл бұрын
King Solomon That’s ridiculous, if I make a muffin does that mean I “truly know” what muffins are like? I I have a kid does that make me able to “truly know” what life is like. What the hell is “truly know” anyway?
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingsolomon7553 WARNING TROLL ALERT engage at your own annoyance.
@TheWasteOfTime
@TheWasteOfTime 4 жыл бұрын
This had to be one of the most precious episodes I'd seen in a good long while. The amount of holding people's hands through the errors in their arguments only for them to be like "wait... nuh uh" was legit comical.
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 4 жыл бұрын
The one that always kills me, is when the caller says: "I completely understand" and then immediately continues on with the same fallacy. (Dormand NJ?)
@jeffreykweder8337
@jeffreykweder8337 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary has got ti be exhausted - his brain was working overtime to trick himself into getting past the false faith he holds so dear - cognitive dissonance in human form.
@TheWasteOfTime
@TheWasteOfTime 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreykweder8337 Yeah, I've been watching the comment thread he's got going on here and boy howdy is it some shit. I don't think I was paying much attention to Javier, but with Dormand I was like "wow, this is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard." But then the next caller made a dumber argument, and the next a dumber one still, and so on and so on.
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 4 жыл бұрын
@Zachary Stewart Faith is beleiving in what you know ain't so. - Mark Twain
@roberthill1166
@roberthill1166 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary Stewart No, it absolutely does not. When Matt asked you to demonstrate the truth of your claim, YOU actually had to ask HIM how to do it! Are you not aware of what a fool you made of yourself? And not just then! Your “context” comment on the unreliability of faith as a path to truth was almost as fatuous. I could go on and on. I’d ask you to go back and listen to yourself but I’m not THAT cruel. Oh, and your views on biblically-sanctioned slavery? Beneath contempt.
@inertiaforce7846
@inertiaforce7846 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm asking if you can demonstrate it, and you're asking me how to do it." -Matt Dillahunty I laughed my ass off.
@roberthill1166
@roberthill1166 4 жыл бұрын
I could smell the singed hairs burning on Zachary’s head.
@franktherealist481
@franktherealist481 4 жыл бұрын
@Magical Chemical Daddy bro, why don't you call into a live show and try your creature line on Matt. I would love to see how well you do. 😂😂😂 As if "creature" is some sort of insult. We're all creatures of some sort.... actually, we're all an evolved species of ape but that would be an insult to you, I assume. But again, don't worry about responding to me. Do it on a live show. Entertain me.
@allim.5941
@allim.5941 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I mean....lol.
@franktherealist481
@franktherealist481 4 жыл бұрын
@Magical Chemical Daddy yeah, you asserted that with no evidence on another video... like I said, try it with Matt. You seem sure enough to me that you might get through to an ex Baptist christian who was studying to be a preacher. He's another person who fell away from religion and God due to insufficient evidence suggested in the bible. LOL! I'm not the one to teach you anything valuable since knowledge to you is asserting what you can't demonstrate. You're not even open minded enough to even listen to any one unless they speak what you want to hear. Again, for the third time, call in on a live show. Enlighten me there... or not. If you have "faith" that you can change Matt, I'd like to see you do it. You're never convincing me with your weak arguments, so... call. 😁
@franktherealist481
@franktherealist481 4 жыл бұрын
@Magical Chemical Daddy LMAO!!! my response to you is... you're a coward. Nothing more. You claim and assert and do not convince. Failure. LOL!
@LiborTinka
@LiborTinka 4 жыл бұрын
Zach reminds me of one of the old AxP pearls: Matt: "Is faith a reliable path to truth?" caller: (long thinking...) "Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't." Don: "Therefore unreliable." (laughs)
@timmonapier8832
@timmonapier8832 4 жыл бұрын
Circa 2hr:01min "I don't believe there is inherently wrong with slavery." " Good! Turn up for slave duty tomorrow bringing your virgin sisters with you."
@user-H0000
@user-H0000 4 жыл бұрын
dude that is hillarious !!! :'D
@r1pster05
@r1pster05 4 жыл бұрын
I'll bring the awl!
@alanglasgowbassist
@alanglasgowbassist 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Glasgow...whats a virgin? ;-)
@christopherseton-smith7404
@christopherseton-smith7404 4 жыл бұрын
@@alanglasgowbassist : Cutting the grass at the side of a motorway? I haven't made the connection with the guys' sisters yet, unless they're perhaps subcontractors?
@nathanmckenzie904
@nathanmckenzie904 4 жыл бұрын
Dude you keep the virgin sisters Bring me the shuttle sister!
@jaidev777
@jaidev777 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan: "What good is any knowledge whatsoever?" That just happened...
@FinneousPJ1
@FinneousPJ1 4 жыл бұрын
I hope nathan is a poe
@allim.5941
@allim.5941 4 жыл бұрын
Isolation is getting to us...lol.
@ilyaleytes1611
@ilyaleytes1611 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Rabbins I don’t understand HOW he called in. As in how a man who does not value knowledge learn to operate something more sophisticated than a wheelbarrow.
@jckensway2956
@jckensway2956 4 жыл бұрын
I had to fast-forward this fucker....
@IllustriousCrocoduck
@IllustriousCrocoduck 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a new one to me
@mrsnakesmrnot8499
@mrsnakesmrnot8499 4 жыл бұрын
David: “When I was no longer drunk, my vivid vision of a ten foot Jesus was over too. Surprise, surprise!” “Blessed be the drunkard, and the drunkard shall inherit the earth.” - Jayzus
@Herzeleydt_Diesentrueb
@Herzeleydt_Diesentrueb 4 жыл бұрын
Μακάριοι οι πτώχοι τω πνεύματι...
@timmy3982
@timmy3982 4 жыл бұрын
99% sure he never stopped drinking and smoking and was in fact smoking shortly before the show started.
@nicosteffen364
@nicosteffen364 4 жыл бұрын
First i thought, Collorado and visions, maybe bad weed? But then he told he was drunk, see thats the problem!
@ApocryphalDude
@ApocryphalDude 4 жыл бұрын
Poor David threw his life away for a religiously flavoured hallucination
@Km-cj8cy
@Km-cj8cy 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus is love
@Mouse_Librarian
@Mouse_Librarian 4 жыл бұрын
"Knowledge is ok." -Someone who willingly threw their brain away
@marrllly
@marrllly 4 жыл бұрын
Did that person have a brain to begin with? 🤔
@IllustriousCrocoduck
@IllustriousCrocoduck 4 жыл бұрын
But seriously, how did that conversation twist him around so much? Nothing but a random line of preaching, and then he had to backpeddle so much that knowledge becomes a trivial thing.
@REDPUMPERNICKEL
@REDPUMPERNICKEL 4 жыл бұрын
Many of us have simply been lucky to have avoided or escaped the many psychological coercions perfected by millennia of religious practice. I'm sure you will agree with the suggestion that it behooves us to regard the victims with some empathy. And for sure that's not to suggest any of us reduce our efforts to help those victims overcome their astonishing delusions. Live long and prosper.
@REDPUMPERNICKEL
@REDPUMPERNICKEL 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll I am happy to be free of the many totalitarian psycho-social coercions that were once essential to our group survival but which began to obsolesce three thousand years ago when at long last civilization began to make self conscious people who, in consequence, began to insist on democratic organization because, of course, self conscious people want fair treatment. We really want you to stop fighting for the restoration of kings and clergy and join us in our struggle to advance democracy. Certainly we need your help to fight the oligarchs who are striving once again to squat atop the pyramids of power and in the process eliminate, or worse, re-enslave us. But anyone can get on line and some of us are still children who have yet to realize the counterproductive effect of casting aspersions towards potential conversions. You too perhaps, "wallow", really?
@the_schmoopsie
@the_schmoopsie 4 жыл бұрын
He was high as fuck. He would repeat the question immediately and then go back to the righteous. That's all he can think about while he's sitting on his couch munching on cheetos, baked out of his mind.
@astrosaurus7021
@astrosaurus7021 4 жыл бұрын
Matt didn't need to "NONONONONONONO" because I was yelling it at my screen for him
@birdieerdie2349
@birdieerdie2349 7 ай бұрын
That's my ringtone
@SPL0869
@SPL0869 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary from Alabama sees nothing wrong with slavery. There’s a “real shock.”
@MoxxMix
@MoxxMix 4 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Unknown Why his family? You made a fallacy.
@joshiegntn
@joshiegntn 4 жыл бұрын
@@MoxxMix I am curious. What fallacy?
@Koz6336
@Koz6336 4 жыл бұрын
@@MoxxMix that wasn't a fallacy, he\she was using reductio ad absurdum.
@SpankyJ
@SpankyJ 4 жыл бұрын
You do know Alabama is one of the most predominately mixed race states with a low amount of whites right? I get the whole "tee her south is racist" stuff, but in reality the town in Utah that has seen 2 black people that drove by each year, that is where ACTUAL racist live. That guy saying he was fine with slaver, was not a race based comment. The dude is nuts, but wasnt saying it in a racist way. It was all people, you assuming he was talking about a specific race is more racist imo
@Koz6336
@Koz6336 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpankyJ I live in Alabama and that's true but it's mostly in the cities. In the more rural towns and outskirts of bigger towns, it's still predominantly white.
@robinvan1983
@robinvan1983 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with these callers are that they never met any other religion. Their claims can also be applied by other religions
@shanec67
@shanec67 4 жыл бұрын
That and their complete lack of reason, just amazingly credulous and ignorant.
@greyeyed123
@greyeyed123 4 жыл бұрын
@Jim Merrilees My sense is (and I may be wrong) is that they are not rejecting other gods due to critical thinking and skepticism, but they are rejecting them to the exclusion of the conclusion that their god is the real one. If they start off with the conclusion that their god is the real one, then all the others have to be false by default. They either never apply critical thinking or skepticism to their conclusion (that their god is real), or they indeed think they have, which excludes the other gods. And occasionally they *will* believe other beliefs, but spin the as "evil" elements in their own belief system--so, for example, aliens or ghosts or Buddhism or Scientology gets grandfathered in to their preexisting beliefs as "demons" or "devil magic" or "the work of Satan to poison your mind against god", etc. Similarly, Scientology might incorporate Christian symbolism to pull in people from a Christian background, Islam claims Jesus as an important prophet (although not the son of god, and not resurrected), or Christianity incorporating Pagan symbols and celebrations to pull in more converts from a Pagan background. In essence, the gullibility is quite malleable over time and across belief systems, and it seems most religious groups are well aware of this.
@greyeyed123
@greyeyed123 4 жыл бұрын
@Waterlec This is possible. But it's also possible they believe there is good evidence for their beliefs on par with evidence for anything else, as often they are fed this notion continuously (implicitly or explicitly) with church, family, friends, and community. In my tiny town, for instance, there are dozens upon dozens of churches the most "exotic" being a Mormon church. If everyone around you believes something weird, you may assume there MUST be good evidence for it--and their is psychological peer pressure to believe their must be good evidence also, as you know if you contradict something so fundamental to the identity of family, friends, and community...you may have a much more difficult life. Moreover, if there are no examples of alternative belief, or nonbelief, in the immediate community, it takes a very strong individual emotionally and intellectually to research with enough depth to come to a better conclusion. (Matt himself is quite bright, but was completely indoctrinated until well into his 20s because he just never thought about it that much and hadn't researched anything for himself.)
@greyeyed123
@greyeyed123 4 жыл бұрын
@Waterlec I never said it was good. I was explaining how some people believe they have applied critical thinking to their beliefs, when in fact, they have not. Someone once asked Christopher Hitchens how the concept of hell could be a product of wish fulfillment if religion as a whole is indeed a product of human desire to not die, go to heaven and be happy forever, etc. Hitchens said hell is for other people to go to--the people you hate, which fulfills your wishes for them. The reason religion is legal is because people have to have the freedom to think and believe whatever they want in order to learn or grow at all. You can't outlaw religion any more than you can outlaw stupidity, or MANDATE intelligence. That isn't how reality, or laws, work.
@greyeyed123
@greyeyed123 4 жыл бұрын
@Waterlec Ok ok ok, but don't get too angry about it or you will start to look like the religious fanatics. (In most circumstances, if someone is telling you about their religion and how you are going to hell, if you tell them you are not interested and they continue on, that is harassment.) Freedom of thought, expression, and speech is the very disinfectant we need to weaken religion and general ignorance in all forms. If you try to suppress religion/ignorance artificially, they will explode. You cannot control what people think or believe any more than you can control how smart or stupid someone is.
@SPL0869
@SPL0869 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Zach! Aren’t you missing a Klan meeting right about now?
@fmn2628
@fmn2628 4 жыл бұрын
I was high on drugs, then had a vision, therefore god? WTF
@eddy3017
@eddy3017 4 жыл бұрын
@Warstar As an athiest who is a fan of hallucinogenics and other kinds of drugs, we aren't all morons. Drugs are fun if you're smart with them!! It's a pity that idiots ruin them for the rest of us.
@anthonydavis9662
@anthonydavis9662 4 жыл бұрын
@@eddy3017 Please get some help you moron. Yes, YOU. Drugs are STUPID and users are losers. Please get some counseling and learn to handle reality.
@eddy3017
@eddy3017 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonydavis9662 You are as close-minded as half the people who call in to this show. Just because you don't know how to use drugs or alcohol in a healthy way doesn't mean no one else can. Do you drink coffee or alcohol? Do you or anyone you love take anti-depression/anxiety medications? Because you are going to have to start drawing lines around what "drugs" are and when they become okay.
@eddy3017
@eddy3017 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonydavis9662 Oh, and calling people names seems like an excellent way to try to get them to go get counselling, so keep up the good work! I hope you don't have kids.
@eddy3017
@eddy3017 4 жыл бұрын
@Warstar Nothing to apologise for, mate. You said something reasonable and I came in with the silly grenade, I was aiming for comedy more than biting commentary. There are plenty of athiests who are idiots with drugs, I just think the "users are losers" mentality that our fellow commentor has is so prejudicial and close-minded. I have heard so many horror stories about the way serving members and veterans are treated in the US military, it's especially despicable when you see how much military spending there is. Glad to hear you were able to get help mate!
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 4 жыл бұрын
To all the theists who called in on this episode: You can believe what you want. But coming onto an atheist show and saying you believe just "because" is not a good argument. You are not going to convert Matt or Johnny (or ANYONE) with these inane, badly thought out reasons.
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 4 жыл бұрын
@Gavin Abrahams He'd have to be proven wrong, first. Are you whining about people making money on YT? It's *DECONVERT* not convert. Atheism isn't a religion one "converts" to.
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 4 жыл бұрын
@Gavin Abrahams The only war here is in your head. That's your delusion. You can't even prove your god is real. Why would anything you say about it matter to me?
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 4 жыл бұрын
@Gavin Abrahams Funny. A theist feeling like THEY'VE been misrepresented. You're wrong about atheism and satanism being the same thing - making your assumptions about other people. But I'm wrong about you? Hah! I don't give a fuck what charity you did - theists do it because it's expected and because they push their faith onto the people they're claiming to help. Atheists are a minority, you idiot. We don't have as many outreach because we don't have as many PEOPLE. But there ARE secular communities that help others. But we help people regardless of any faith. But I wouldn't expect a theist to understand any of that. The "prince of lies" is a lame comeback. The only lie here is your religion. Unless you have ACTUAL evidence for it?
@ericjack123
@ericjack123 4 жыл бұрын
Gavin Abrahams 🤪🤪🤪
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 4 жыл бұрын
@Gavin Abrahams No evidence for your claims?
@kimsland999
@kimsland999 4 жыл бұрын
Who else found the callers this week OVERLY frustrating? At times I laughed, at times I got irritated, but Matt kept his cool. A true testament to his manner and composure as now a famous talk show host. CLEARLY Matt is God :) Or superhuman, or EXTREMELY patient. Well done Matt.
@heavymeddle28
@heavymeddle28 4 жыл бұрын
This episode was... Interesting. A study in idiocy. One caller more lunatic than the other 😅
@anthonydavis9662
@anthonydavis9662 4 жыл бұрын
I TOTALLY agree. What the fuck? Is the isolation driving these people even MORE asinine?
@pascalarancibia5199
@pascalarancibia5199 4 жыл бұрын
Atheism is senseless.
@heavymeddle28
@heavymeddle28 4 жыл бұрын
@@pascalarancibia5199 in what way? 🤔
@inertiaforce7846
@inertiaforce7846 4 жыл бұрын
@@pascalarancibia5199 claiming that you've made the greatest scientific discovery of all time is senseless, and arrogant.
@aaronhillsworld
@aaronhillsworld 4 жыл бұрын
42:03 The best moment of the show....(Arguably of course 😂) 2 atheists with bibles in their hands quoting and contextualizing scriptures... 1 christian on the phone without a clue. 😂
@zaphodrahja
@zaphodrahja 3 жыл бұрын
Most christians haven't read the thing they say they believe in
@aaronhillsworld
@aaronhillsworld 3 жыл бұрын
@@zaphodrahja I couldn’t agree more. Once I decided to read it for myself that was the first step toward becoming an atheist.
@buttkid3548
@buttkid3548 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@satanwasframed5083
@satanwasframed5083 2 жыл бұрын
Well the same thing happens whenever atheists are called out for the slavery they take advantage of in China. If you want to go just with demographics, almost 2 billion atheists believe in slavery. I'm an atheist as well but I don't dare bring up slavery in a fairy tale when we use slaves to this day. We turn a blind eye on slavery, genocide, and child labor. But hey as long as you have your phones and blue jeans who cares? Of course it's the bibles fault. Give me a break
@thenerdshow2702
@thenerdshow2702 4 жыл бұрын
Raul actually thought that he was going to say something they haven't heard before. That's cute.
@csabo1725
@csabo1725 4 жыл бұрын
He also thinks 5 dots in the sky literally and undeniably looks like a man. You get through to a brain that small.
@meydiaengka
@meydiaengka 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@ApocryphalDude
@ApocryphalDude 4 жыл бұрын
Why would Yahweh make a constellation of Orion?
@qbertcubington7387
@qbertcubington7387 4 жыл бұрын
I would also point out that Raul's argument is for astrology. Or Greek mythology. Or evidence for a god that doesn't like stars laid out as a perfect grid.
@explainthesunset3646
@explainthesunset3646 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll And what answers does your religion have? Simply observing something and saying "god did it".....wow....that fcking useful isn't it?
@Hin_Håle
@Hin_Håle 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Zachary just kept on digging that hole, didn't he?
@alanglasgowbassist
@alanglasgowbassist 4 жыл бұрын
Another plethora of brain-dead callers. I love this show.
@bms77
@bms77 3 жыл бұрын
Especially David from Colorado ugh
@KINDAtheexpert7608
@KINDAtheexpert7608 Жыл бұрын
@@bms77the worst🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ almost pains me to listen to him speak. Literally insane. Sounds like damn near every highly religious person I’ve ever met. It’s really sad honestly.. I’m NOT gonna pray for them though cuz I don’t believe in magic.
@starlaminde8436
@starlaminde8436 Жыл бұрын
And we live in this world with this plethora!!
@RunGreenManor
@RunGreenManor Жыл бұрын
I literally cannot understand why these people call into the show - some more than once. Why do it? What do they want to achieve? To convert Atheists to a faith? To be converted away from faith? To demonstrate their superior intellect? To upgrade their piety level by showing how much they love their God and secure a place in the afterlife. The first one is never going to happen and none of them are able to string 2 sentences together. It’s actually painful listening not just to their views but their universal inability to explain them. The strangest form of attention seeking I can think of.
@digbycrankshaft7572
@digbycrankshaft7572 8 ай бұрын
​@@RunGreenManorI hear you but one of those calls may be all that's needed to begin the deconstruction of someone who's on the fence.
@rayjr96
@rayjr96 4 жыл бұрын
David sounds like he did some really heavy drugs, he’s only 46 yet he talks like he’s 70
@Deseis
@Deseis 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Angel is the most Marvel-Character name I ever heard, including actual Marvel characters.
@Deseis
@Deseis 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny, if you find a motorcycle in a graveyard one night, my advice is to put on some fireproof skivvies before you touch it.
@twonumber22
@twonumber22 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I became an atheist before I got online and embarrassed myself. yikes
@kimsland999
@kimsland999 4 жыл бұрын
But the stars? LOL I wonder what Christians will say when the first baby gets born on the Moon or Mars one day? Since they technically won't be an Earthling. I'd be concerned that they'd form mobs to kill the claimed Satan Lol. Those stars are light years apart, the actual 12 constellations of the zodiac (and now fully debunked idea) some of the stars in one star sign are actually closer to stars in another star sign. But due to our perspective (Einstein cleared up for us on perspectives) they LOOK like they are together, but they are not. To answer your question, you would be embarrassed AND ashamed of yourself, and so should they be right now!
@kimsland999
@kimsland999 4 жыл бұрын
@Hilmar Zonneveld Agreed. But the non Earth terrestrial still stands.
@roberthill1166
@roberthill1166 4 жыл бұрын
Bama Zachary is still staring into his hands, trying to figure out how his ass got there.
@marklee3844
@marklee3844 4 жыл бұрын
I think when challenging people who claim faith as a pathway to truth, contrasting with other religions is the better way to go. Faith leads to Christianity. Faith leads to Islam. Faith leads to Hinduism. Faith leads to thousands of other religions and gods. Is faith a reliable path to truth? No. Is it possible that faith can lead all to the wrong answers even sincerely? Yes.
@devinbutchart5751
@devinbutchart5751 4 жыл бұрын
I think the danger there is that they could say that faith is still Ponting to god, and that those fake ones are simply aspects of the true one. I know it's an absurd argument, but aren't most of their arguments?
@aaronhillsworld
@aaronhillsworld 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Lee great point. I was thinking the same!
@Z4r4sz
@Z4r4sz 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll Christianity... with a book containing talking snakes, a dome above the sky, which claims the earth "hangs" in space, a virgin being impregnated by a non-physical entity, lots of magic and none of it can be verified... You have a strange definition of "facts". If I look in a dictionary your religion is listed under "myths", not facts. So get your FACTS straight.
@robinvan1983
@robinvan1983 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll Christianity has as many facts as Buddhist texts. They both refer to people places and events that can be varified... But not the supernatural parts of it. they have no evidence. Hell in that sense, Islam has a better book since it only has one version of the book. Within Christianity there isn't agreement which gospels are apocryphal
@phantomstarsx9343
@phantomstarsx9343 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll if I can demonstrate one thing the bible got wrong will it do anything for you
@sofieeh
@sofieeh 4 жыл бұрын
I just really hate it when religious people say that "you first need to have faith, for God to show you the truth", so... you mean to say that I need to be convinced of God in order... to be convinced of God? How does that make any sense? In that case you are the ones that jumped to presuppositions first.
@mrsnakesmrnot8499
@mrsnakesmrnot8499 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the first caller seemed really reasonable, as struggling theists go... 🧐
@barkYdarkATFB
@barkYdarkATFB 4 жыл бұрын
But that concept is what THEY have been taught. In the bible, Hebrews 11: 6 “But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.” So, if that is drilled into you as one of he most important things in pleasing god, then of course it becomes part of what they must preach. Indoctrination is a hellova drug.
@sofieeh
@sofieeh 4 жыл бұрын
@@barkYdarkATFB Yes of course, I totally get that! I guess it just really grinds my gears that they can't see or consider how silly and illogical that is. But that is also part of their indoctrination, just never questioning what they've been taught.
@sofieeh
@sofieeh 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrsnakesmrnot8499 Yes, he was pretty open to the conversation, that was actually pretty interesting.
@csabo1725
@csabo1725 4 жыл бұрын
Or if it was rephrased "You need to lack evidence to believe in God" they would say no no no and change the subject.
@richardbrown9126
@richardbrown9126 4 жыл бұрын
Hi to everyone at the Atheist Experience, I have just signed up as a director , I wish it could be more but unfortunately I am stuck indoors and that is not good for a Carpenter, I have always been an Atheist surrounded by believers so your show is a breath of fresh air , all the very best,Richard in the UK.
@omniaquaeriteacdubitate3898
@omniaquaeriteacdubitate3898 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll what exactly does theism answer?
@n1ghtmar3mach1n3
@n1ghtmar3mach1n3 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll Link and time stamp or it never happened.
@Fogdiver69
@Fogdiver69 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll "atheism" is simply the lack of belief in a god. Of course that doesn't have "answers." Any "answers" are outside of atheism, because atheism makes no claims. It's simply, merely, only, the lack of belief in a god. Furthermore, what good are "answers" if they're bogus anyway?
@digbycrankshaft7572
@digbycrankshaft7572 8 ай бұрын
Never met that many believers in the UK
@alexc5243
@alexc5243 Жыл бұрын
That bit about the constellations had me face palming so hard. Take the Hubble deep field image for example, there’s a bunch of stars/galaxies ALL OVER the image, you could connect whatever dots you want and make whatever the hell you want out of it.
@scottjohnson7248
@scottjohnson7248 10 ай бұрын
Small correction. Everything in the Hubble Deep Field is a galaxy, even the small specks. The location was chosen because it doesn't have any local stars. Everything visible is extra-galactc.
@Tina-qn6pq
@Tina-qn6pq 4 жыл бұрын
I can relate to Javier. I was a Christian for 46 years and then I applied logic to my thinking. It was really hard for me to let go of the core belief I had for half of my life, because I no longer had the “answer”. That was 3 years ago and I am way passed that now.
@MsMegF
@MsMegF Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that Javier didn’t feel that he was good enough to have earned the good things in life unless he attributed it to a god. I’m certain he worked hard and made it happen….not some amorphous being…..hurts my heart….
@OgeyTheTerrible
@OgeyTheTerrible Жыл бұрын
Javier, through all the self-admitted cognitive dissonance and outright fear of the unknown, has shown more intellectual credibility and honest discourse than so many others that plant their heels firmly in the dirt with fingers in their ears. I hope he found what he's looking for and takes more credit for his accomplishments. Good for him to challenge his beliefs in light of a competing argument.
@r1pster05
@r1pster05 4 жыл бұрын
When people ask "What would Jesus do?" , remind them that flipping over tables and chasing people with a whip is within the realm of possibility.
@charlessmith9922
@charlessmith9922 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@roberthill1166
@roberthill1166 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Ripley JCBDSM is the favorite porn category in southern states.
@r1pster05
@r1pster05 4 жыл бұрын
@@roberthill1166 Right up there with "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me."
@intermediaryfossil7163
@intermediaryfossil7163 4 жыл бұрын
Or: What would Jesus prophecy what Titus Flavius (actually the entire Flavian dynasty) would do?
@TheSquallAce
@TheSquallAce 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll I thought all happened according to 'God's plan'?
@beetoven8193
@beetoven8193 4 жыл бұрын
Great show guys! Matt, I hope you're hanging in there, during the pandemic. You can't possibly know how much you've helped me over the last few years. I love you. Johnny, what the hell were you drinking from??? Looks like some kinda Asgardian sippy-cup! :D
@Dreamprism
@Dreamprism 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else still imagine the audience cheering as the opening credits end even though there is no audience there? It still kind of plays in my mind...
@aaronhillsworld
@aaronhillsworld 3 жыл бұрын
Yep 😁
@h.g.wellington2500
@h.g.wellington2500 4 жыл бұрын
Be a Christian, endorse slavery... apparently.
@roberthill1166
@roberthill1166 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Waterman If I did, I apologize and retract it. Were you endorsing biblical slavery? It seems to me that you were. Or not? If not, I will be happy to apologize and delete my response.
@roberthill1166
@roberthill1166 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Waterman No, that was not at all the case. I read your comment as an endorsement of slavery and if it were such, it deserves the strongest criticism possible.
@roberthill1166
@roberthill1166 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Waterman Got it! Sorry for that. I see now. And no, my misunderstanding that you were a theist stems from the position I mistakenly attributed to you and some of your terminology e.g. “son of man”. In no way did it come from a lack of harsh language towards theism.
@alanglasgowbassist
@alanglasgowbassist 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but only if they are the Master. They arent so keen when its their turn to be the slave...
@franktherealist481
@franktherealist481 4 жыл бұрын
@Justin Waterman so, the argument atheists have against the bible is just that. It endorses slavery in the old testament and doesn't condemn it in the new testament. Slavery in christianity is allowed becuase the bible says it's ok. It even sets out the rules on slave treatment... just saying.
@Nabiki73
@Nabiki73 4 жыл бұрын
Raul is easily one of the most simple callers that this show has ever had. Simple in this case means "depressingly stupid".
@MehYam2112
@MehYam2112 4 жыл бұрын
@Truth Matters so, apparently truth doesn't matter?
@SnareRushJunkie
@SnareRushJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
@Truth Matters Please call this show or Talk Heathen sometime.
@Nabiki73
@Nabiki73 4 жыл бұрын
@Truth Matters Saying "smart theists" is much like saying "less delusional fanatics". It really isn't much of an upgrade. Smart theists call the show all the time, and they are the ones that do the verbal tap-dance precisely because they know that their position is not rationally tenable. Perhaps you mean "smart" in the sense of "not willing to call the show and be humiliated by Matt because you know that you could not rationally defend your belief in a magic man in the sky.".
@SnareRushJunkie
@SnareRushJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
@Truth Matters Then call about that. Thanks for showing me god's love, btw.
@dimbulb23
@dimbulb23 4 жыл бұрын
@Truth Matters Atheism isn't a belief position. It's a disbelief position.
@mikehrabar7999
@mikehrabar7999 4 жыл бұрын
"Faith" is a reliable pathway to truth; Slavery is ok; Orion is a "figure in the sky" - Are you seriously kidding me? These theist callers are getting dumber every week!
@inertiaforce7846
@inertiaforce7846 4 жыл бұрын
@David Valerio You know you may have a point there I did not consider that.
@giovannibazzini7117
@giovannibazzini7117 4 жыл бұрын
David Valerio this is a very good point
@robinvan1983
@robinvan1983 4 жыл бұрын
@David Valerio I wish atheist stop saying that Atheist are smart.. Because knowing there is no evidence for God doesn't bump your IQ. I know Atheist who are anti vax believers and Christians who are great Teachers
@dancox9248
@dancox9248 4 жыл бұрын
We're not "Theists," that's your strawman argument for "a" - "theism" = atheism "without theism." But we don't believe in the gods you don't believe in, *_we're philosophical monotheists_* and being without us, your religious debate opponents, is how I know you're all getting dumber each moment. Evidenced by your claim "word salad" billions of times online every focking day.
@dancox9248
@dancox9248 4 жыл бұрын
@David Valerio You don't believe in atheism any more than I believe in *a god* you don't believe in.
@destronia123
@destronia123 4 жыл бұрын
This episode should be entitled "Night of the Trolls" or "Day of the Willfully Ignorant".
@hinuhinan2434
@hinuhinan2434 4 жыл бұрын
Wish me luck guys. I'm gonna come out as an atheist by the end of 2020. Hopefully I won't be killed.
@ucheogwude2516
@ucheogwude2516 4 жыл бұрын
@Hinu: Just make sure you are safe before you do so.
@hinuhinan2434
@hinuhinan2434 4 жыл бұрын
@@ucheogwude2516 idk man... just got threatened today
@scissorman44
@scissorman44 4 жыл бұрын
@@hinuhinan2434 What religion are you coming out of? Christianity? Islam?
@hinuhinan2434
@hinuhinan2434 4 жыл бұрын
@@scissorman44 islam
@scissorman44
@scissorman44 4 жыл бұрын
@@hinuhinan2434 Oh dear. Wish you the best of luck, make a plan if things go south.
@SpawnFanboy
@SpawnFanboy 4 жыл бұрын
Death is unavoidable, to live in fear of that inevitability is to not live at all.
@miboogaroo
@miboogaroo 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully put
@zoggdawg8141
@zoggdawg8141 4 жыл бұрын
Death in inevitable? That’s what YOU think. I’m gonna live forever.... so far so good... 😂
@SpawnFanboy
@SpawnFanboy 4 жыл бұрын
@@zoggdawg8141 Time reveals all.
@miboogaroo
@miboogaroo 4 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Shaw exactly... even my 3yold nephew came to that realisation
@dylanjones268
@dylanjones268 4 жыл бұрын
That saying does more harm than good. Making someone feel pathetic for their mental disability will have negative consequences. Its funny sort of that most people that live with that fear actually end up killing themselves because they can't stand living that way. Go figure..
@stevegould2696
@stevegould2696 4 жыл бұрын
10ft tall in an 8ft ceiling
@johnallison6054
@johnallison6054 7 ай бұрын
I wanted them to ask how big this room was as soon as I heard 10ft jesus.
@HeardFromMeFirst
@HeardFromMeFirst 4 жыл бұрын
I'm keeping my comment polite.. Raul....Zachary.. need serious help
@johnnyfines627
@johnnyfines627 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan, I see a “dumbest callers” compilation in your future my friend.
@ahmedmontasser436
@ahmedmontasser436 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary: Slavery is ok tho
@jimsmith3029
@jimsmith3029 2 жыл бұрын
Raul checks in from the 12th century to tell us about god
@carlose5751
@carlose5751 4 жыл бұрын
I love the intro. Thanks Shelley for such a beautiful song.
@rickskeptical
@rickskeptical 4 жыл бұрын
Me: "And here my son, we have an example of a brain totally addled by religion." (Play Nathan from Colorado)
@rtvandle
@rtvandle 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like he is a guy who would watch TV for the ads, TV shows require too much thinking.
@Tittlemouse69
@Tittlemouse69 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced that Nathan was drug-free either at the time of his "vision" or at the time of the call.
@airbolt6496
@airbolt6496 4 жыл бұрын
Tittlemouse69 “what good is knowledge whatsoever” I’m actually crying because if this at 3:30 am 😂😂😂
@vgarzareyna
@vgarzareyna 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tittlemouse69 I think you're thinking about David
@seanjones2456
@seanjones2456 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing group of callers on this show! It was a festival of boneheads.
@Crypto2814
@Crypto2814 4 жыл бұрын
Matt and Johnny are my new favorite host duo. More please
@mloclamgnidyr161
@mloclamgnidyr161 7 ай бұрын
David in Colorado started drinking in 1994 and hasn’t stopped
@nisuperman
@nisuperman 4 жыл бұрын
As a non-native English speaker, I've just discovered Dillahunty postcasts three days ago and it is a fresh air to finally find a good show that stimulates my mind. It will not only help me to improve my language skills, but also giving me some insights for my arguments as atheist. Definitely a real food for thought. I've just binge-watched _The Atheist Experience_ lately and I appreciate what Matt and Athony Magnabosco ( _Street Epistemology_ ) are doing. They are good knowlege transmitter.
@davebrown6552
@davebrown6552 4 жыл бұрын
A battery is highly organised energy, I have yet to meet a concious car battery.
@joqiii3
@joqiii3 4 жыл бұрын
Same with a nuclear bomb.
@Rob_Jacobs
@Rob_Jacobs 2 жыл бұрын
Matt is so damn good at constructing arguments
@TheSnoeedog
@TheSnoeedog Жыл бұрын
and deconstructing!!
@wuphat
@wuphat 4 жыл бұрын
Dormand was taken off his script and drowned.
@MehYam2112
@MehYam2112 4 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck that was a great response by Matt. And then this guy pulls out "well, over time, more and more free will is allowed". Like wtf does that even start to mean
@MrFairNBalanced1
@MrFairNBalanced1 4 жыл бұрын
@@MehYam2112 Sounds like God doesn't become stupider, just allows more free will
@ApocryphalDude
@ApocryphalDude 4 жыл бұрын
Dorman is another Azathoth worshipper
@mfollonier
@mfollonier 4 жыл бұрын
@@ApocryphalDude and Nathan too, but I'm not sure, I don't want to offend Azathoth...
@MissQ.143
@MissQ.143 4 жыл бұрын
I love Johnny Angel as Matt's co-host. Great job! I can't help but smile/laugh as I listen to these callers. Pretty entertaining to me.
@TypographyGuru
@TypographyGuru 10 ай бұрын
“Orion is a clear figure” is such a joke. The stars don’t show a head. It’s just one star! Orion has no legs. Just one star each has to represent both legs. The right arms is completely unclear. Every drawing does something else, like having a thin elbow and a huge wrist, sometimes a weapon or no weapon, or they just leave the arm out entirely. The left arm too is unclear, so the drawings put different(!) objects in it to come up with something. A completely crooked shield or bow, a piece of cloth or animal … It if’s so clear, Raul, why this variety?
@SmoakRaider510
@SmoakRaider510 4 жыл бұрын
I hate that it always come down to “I believe cuz I believe” people are so unwilling to see that they could possibly be wrong.
@Z4r4sz
@Z4r4sz 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll Its ironic that christians/theists appeal to faith aka "I believe it, its written in this heavily edited book therefor its true" while belonging to a religion that disagrees with reality. But somehow the same religious people claim to have facts... while using the internet and computers.
@IllustriousCrocoduck
@IllustriousCrocoduck 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll i have faith that faith doesn't lead to truth. See how I just demonstrated that your statement was false? You can make up whatever you want, but you should be more concerned with reality.
@IllustriousCrocoduck
@IllustriousCrocoduck 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll actually, all you did was remind me that I misread your previous comment.
@IllustriousCrocoduck
@IllustriousCrocoduck 4 жыл бұрын
@MindCreatedAll the rest was a few vague assertions coming from ignorance.
@richardthomas9856
@richardthomas9856 4 жыл бұрын
Javier seems like a pretty smart guy (expresses himself very well, so it's not surprising that he is where he is.
@roems6396
@roems6396 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Thomas Apparently he was arguing for divine morality a week ago. Now he is realizing that his main drive for his belief is fear and anecdotes. Give him time and he will come around. It takes time to throw off the shackles of indoctrination.
@REDPUMPERNICKEL
@REDPUMPERNICKEL 4 жыл бұрын
@@roems6396 Although sometimes it happens in a flash of insight. Many, many of us were shocked and outraged by the heresy asserted by the mocking shout of some older kid, "Santa is not real". And then, a few hours later, after one's unconscious had sufficiently reevaluated the relevant facts in light of this new input and produced a logical conclusion in starkest contrast to comfortable 'reality', the truth about Santa illuminated the conscious like a bolt of lightening. (Subsequently triggering a sense of loss so deep it squeezed out tears. But the sadness in the realization that childhood had ended was counterbalanced by a kind of shining pride in having acquired something so valuable as the truth).
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 4 жыл бұрын
Note that "smart" isn't what gets you out of an addiction (religion). It's the ability to let go of beliefs that clearly do not conform to reality. In other words, it's the capacity for massive discomfort that gets you out.
@roems6396
@roems6396 4 жыл бұрын
REDPUMPERNICKEL I think it’s even worse, and more analogous to religion, in that even when those pieces fit together, and the child realizes that the story doesn’t make sense, they cling to it and run to their parents to demand a definitive answer. As there is no authority that can give the religious believer a definitive answer, many cling to that hope even after they know that the stories don’t make much sense.
@REDPUMPERNICKEL
@REDPUMPERNICKEL 4 жыл бұрын
@@roems6396 Yep, there are innocents who are so deeply immersed in psychologically effective circumstances that it has become impossible for them to see the perfect parallel between Santa Clause and Jebus. In light of that I say, three cheers for the Atheist Experience program.
@thomasroman7011
@thomasroman7011 4 жыл бұрын
It's been awhile since I watched this. I almost forgot how arrogantly stupid people of faith can sound. Got a good laugh out of this lol
@casparuskruger4807
@casparuskruger4807 4 жыл бұрын
Some of these callers were indictably stupid
@thomasroman7011
@thomasroman7011 4 жыл бұрын
@Magical Chemical Daddy atheism isn't a religion or basis of belief/faith. it's a lack of belief/faith.
@casparuskruger4807
@casparuskruger4807 4 жыл бұрын
@Magical Chemical Daddy--Were you caller today on either Talk Heathen or on this show?
@sycofreake1
@sycofreake1 4 жыл бұрын
@Magical Chemical Daddy no he won't call because he's a pussy. Already been called out for that. Just pathetic
@casparuskruger4807
@casparuskruger4807 4 жыл бұрын
@Magical Chemical Daddy --And I also own a Nissan Altima regardless.
@eljison
@eljison 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Javier for being intellectually honest in recognizing and admitting that he did not have good evidence for his beliefs. That is refreshing, and a good first step towards "enlightenment" if he continues to ask questions and take this pursuit seriously.
@jane-marie3289
@jane-marie3289 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode, Johnny and Matt make a good team.
@KemoHay
@KemoHay 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny was good, I liked him. Would love to see more of him :)
@Listoric
@Listoric 4 жыл бұрын
Please, can we have a T-Shirt that says: "Knowledge. It's okay." xD
@Greneby1
@Greneby1 4 жыл бұрын
David from Colorado was partying and probably sat on the tv remote so “the room lit up in a pink hue and someone spoke”. Drunk as a skunk. 🤪
@xXthevenomousXx
@xXthevenomousXx 4 жыл бұрын
Also, it feels like he murdered his wife. "I told my son about death just in case he encountered a corpse, and even though she wasnt sick and I had no reason to think it would happen, my wife died a week later. It helped my son deal with it."
@josmith9662
@josmith9662 4 жыл бұрын
10 foot Jesus. Bet you can not explain that away with random atheist environmental causes
@llongone2
@llongone2 4 жыл бұрын
MC 10-Foot Jesus....David still sounds drunk in this phone call.
@anthonydavis9662
@anthonydavis9662 4 жыл бұрын
I must have screamed at my computer a dozen times "MOVE ON FROM THIS ASSHOLE!!!!". That was 15 minutes of PURE HELL.
@letsomethingshine
@letsomethingshine 4 жыл бұрын
It's like David from Colorado never heard of "spiking a drink with a hallucinogenic" or "moment of sobriety" which can trick you into thinking you must not have been under the influence.
@thomasowens5824
@thomasowens5824 Жыл бұрын
I have listened to this episode a few times, these people are increasingly broken.
@somepublic
@somepublic 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. "I missed your question because I was in the hospital yesterday."
@scarab36319ify
@scarab36319ify 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny: Nathan, you can do better. Me: sceptical
@Tina-qn6pq
@Tina-qn6pq 4 жыл бұрын
When I told my sister that I no longer believed in a god, she said “ok, but what is the harm in believing it, just incase there is one?” I just looked at her and then went on about my day.
@anonymousjohnson976
@anonymousjohnson976 4 жыл бұрын
Tina: Yes, I call them the "just in case" believers.
@anonymousjohnson976
@anonymousjohnson976 4 жыл бұрын
Mind: So, if a god created all and knows the intent of the heart, are you saying that the people who have a good heart will have eternal life and go to heaven too? Then, that would mean that atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, and humanists will be in heaven. However, most of them do not even want to go to heaven anyway, if it means being with the god of the Old Testament.
@ricardovonkrypton8908
@ricardovonkrypton8908 2 жыл бұрын
What's the harm in believing in dragons, just in case there is one?
@JohnNesbit1957
@JohnNesbit1957 4 жыл бұрын
Raul is only calling in to preach. And that is something that other hosts have said not to do because the show is not a platform for theists to preach and proselytize. Matt's microphone keeps clipping and he can't seem to get through to the callers who talk incessantly. This happens since the new format of the quarantine shows began. This makes it very difficult for Matt or another host to maintain control of the conversation. And it turns the advantage in favor of the caller to keep talking over the host. People like Raul are dishonest callers because they do not stick to what they claim they're calling about. They're only using the show to grandstand and gain attention to their friends and fellow theists. They have no intention of having an intellectually honest conversation with the host.
@jckensway2956
@jckensway2956 4 жыл бұрын
John Nesbit Matt’s dice analogy was a good attempt but.....I cycle thousands of miles a year. All my routes are posted publicly as are scores of other cyclists’ route. Every single day we all see several routes mapped out that resemble a whole host of things. Occasionally some genius deliberately rides a route that might look like a frog(!) otherwise all resemblances are entirely coincidental. That fact that Raul could not understand the hosts’ explanations was literally mind-boggling.
@Cory_Springer
@Cory_Springer 4 жыл бұрын
I've was a Christan viewer 2010 to 2012. Atheist viewer 2012 to present. Patron for a year or two but haven't been keeping up with the show since 2020 started. Very excited to see how clips are devided up and just the overall level of work going into this show. Johnny reminds me ofJeff Dee, so I have a feeling this whole episode of Matt/Johnny will be very entertaining.
@387Dan
@387Dan 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary: [paraphrase] “There is nothing wrong with slavery as long as you don’t mistreat your slaves.” WTF??? This is what Hitchens meant when he said, “Religion poisons everything.”
@bigboy9983
@bigboy9983 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan is a perfect candidate for a Christian. Take his money
@smaakjeks
@smaakjeks 4 жыл бұрын
He's set to talk mode, not listen mode. And, only woolly appeals to emotion are permitted past the gate. As soon as Matt asks a question that deconstructs the wool, Nathan's brain grinds to a halt.
@ridespirals
@ridespirals Жыл бұрын
the fact that people like that are out there driving on the road is terrifying. imagine if a guy like this was your boss. religions love those double digit IQs.
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 4 жыл бұрын
I'll start believing in heaven when I can Skype with my dead loved ones. Doesn't seem like much to ask from a universe cobbler?
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 4 жыл бұрын
Universe -cobbler- carpenter.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 4 жыл бұрын
And, from cobbler... Don't mock a sinner. But you can moccasin. Always try to do adidas good as possible. Bless my sole. If eye must give tongue to shoe puns, there must be an uppers limit. They say JC said "the Last shall be first". See what I did there?
@dollarbill2208
@dollarbill2208 4 жыл бұрын
The constellation Orion was designed... because it looks designed... and in a million years, all those stars are going to change positions in the sky, such that Orion will no longer be recognizable for what it is today... and if we are still around, we will see something new and different, and derive a different pattern entirely.
@markburch6253
@markburch6253 4 жыл бұрын
It won't take millions of years. In one human lifetime Bernard's star will change position in the night sky by almost have the width of the moon.
@markburch6253
@markburch6253 4 жыл бұрын
@Hilmar Zonneveld the original comment mentioned millions of years. Edmund Halley (the Halley's comet guy) realized that the stars in the constellations were moving when he noticed the stars in Greek star charts were out of place. The charts were only 1600 years old at the time and he did it with 1700's technology. The constellations and the misplaced stars were how Halley discovered stars move. In only 1600 years. It won't take a million years.
@ThePixel1983
@ThePixel1983 2 жыл бұрын
David sounds like the confused preacher from Life of Brian.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 Жыл бұрын
The Rafia-farian? The preachin Palin?
@Domzdream
@Domzdream 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for another awesome episode 👌
@johntrains1317
@johntrains1317 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary: congratulations, you played yourself. God I hope Matt says that one time. It would be great shirt merch lol
@casparuskruger4807
@casparuskruger4807 4 жыл бұрын
It don't get much worse than this. How could it?
@ralphkeenan5497
@ralphkeenan5497 4 жыл бұрын
I must be psychic. “I saw this 10 foot guy with millions of people”. “Was the television on” ? Haha 😂
@NxDoyle
@NxDoyle 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Raul, y'ever been to the Southern Hemisphere?
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 4 жыл бұрын
Raul...may not accept the existence of the Southern Hemisphere.
@bobobo2224
@bobobo2224 4 жыл бұрын
Dormand is an OLD caller. He used to call with his "theory" that everything has 2 properties. Everything has a "is and an is not", or" front and back", to inside and outside etc. I can't remember his old name. But it was about season 17 or older.
@Jabbatic
@Jabbatic 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect Dormand might be Andrew from up to 10 years ago. Siege Man made a comment about the same thing ~8 hours ago, which jogged my memory. If we're all correct about that connection, Andrew was truly awful then and Dormand is even more awful now ;-)
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 4 жыл бұрын
That's the Jordan Peterson effect; make every wacky thought as muddy as possible in order to avoid facing that they are full of shit.
@psychee1
@psychee1 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny is a good co-host. Hope to see more of this tag team.
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 4 жыл бұрын
"Faith is great, man." Well, fuck me, I'm convinced. Shut down the show boys and girls, Nathan figured it out.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 4 жыл бұрын
When you look up at the sky and see random stars? Wtf? I wasn’t aware the stars change every night.
@davidsiegel7882
@davidsiegel7882 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Russsell, My teeth are like stars because they come out every night as well. David S. U.K.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 4 жыл бұрын
Hilmar Zonneveld There is a specific pattern that the Stars developed, it’s called gravity. Random isn’t simply anything that wasn’t created with the intention of a mind. It’s also something that lacks a method. There is a method to the universe by natural means.
@marklee3844
@marklee3844 4 жыл бұрын
Raoul: How God could prove himself to the entire world. He sends every person in the world a written letter at the exact same time according to the timezone. Let's say 12 pm in each time zone, not an email. A written letter specifically catered to the individual and the letters are delivered in a unique way. Of course people would still be skeptical. But God follows up by detailing a plan to educate the world to draw people to the same truth. God is patient. He also follows up with declaration of being the king of the world, and promises that all our needs will be met within a system where people will still work and have freewill. But if someone falls out of line, God deals with people in a way that leads people naturally to genuine trust and change in character. No more stoning people to death to get people to follow. It might take a few weeks or months for everyone to come around (with healthy minds gifted to us). Don't you think that if humans were created to follow God, that each person at their heathiest mind sets and necessities fulfilled; diseases healed, the whole world would follow the one true divine power (maybe it's an infinite amount of gods and goddesses) living in a world of equality, without borders, speaking the same language, no need for faith, we would experience a sort of heaven, if you will. Perhaps some people would choose to not follow or be a part of the new world. God would just erase their existence free from suffering and let them go. How many people would be against this idea? It's not consistent with reality, thus it's impossible to imagine, but it's not far from what you already believe except the divinity I have invented far exceeds your god in morality. Evidently she does not exist. I do believe we would follow a true god of love who doesn't send people to hell. My point is, how can a human being come up with a plan that claimed gods do not come even close to matching with any effort to unite humanity and draw the whole world to truth and love? If your god can do all things, why is finding the truth of her existence such a difficult task involving arguing, agreeing to disagree, separate religions, wars over belief, separate demominations, and people interpreting ancient texts right or wrong that have been translated from different languages in the midst of fslse prophers, scam artists relying on imperfect human beings to trust as his messengers. There would be no Devil but I can't imagine a life of happiness without sadness. Nature is the answer. I honestly believe if a deity tried this plan, the vast majority would follow and it would take some time to adapt, but as long as our recreational activities, and access to pleasure was not inhibited, the world would follow. This is partly the reason why I would believe in universal salvation if this god existed. But it's not based on reality, so it will never happen. One of the reasons why I don't believe in heaven as a future home for us to live as our true natural selves. It is absurd but what is more absurd is Christian theology promising an invisible kingdom waiting for us after death. If you drink the kool-aid, the spaceship will take us to a new planet. Once you die, you will be rewarded. It's a death cult.
@elmolewis9123
@elmolewis9123 4 жыл бұрын
Or, make cancer wards redundant, overnight.
@GreenmanDave
@GreenmanDave 4 жыл бұрын
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanished in a puff of logic. "Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing. Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best selling book 'Well That About Wraps It Up For God'. ~Douglas Adams
@ericmishima
@ericmishima 4 жыл бұрын
@@GreenmanDave you're a hoopy frood.
@GreenmanDave
@GreenmanDave 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericmishima Well, thank you. 😁
@AntifascistAllDay
@AntifascistAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
Matt: when you say vision...you mean like on television? David: like watching a 10ft man on television walking among millions... Johnny: was the TV on? 😂
@carlstokes1984
@carlstokes1984 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Angel I really loved your death analogy. It was logical and emotionally impactful.
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 4 жыл бұрын
Faith is beleiving in what you know ain't so. - Mark Twain
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 4 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how these vision stories always make them special. God has a special message just for them. God is going to put em on a special journey. Nobody is going to believe you but you should do it anyway.... you’d think this all knowing and powerful god would give people better arguments. The best part is this guy ignored everything the vision told him to do. If he believed it was true why would he do the opposite of what he was told.
@andrewkruse7899
@andrewkruse7899 4 жыл бұрын
"Take bets as to how long that lasts." Me: I don't know. 2 calls? "Next we have Dormand." Me: Yup, there it is.
@ED-le1pr
@ED-le1pr 2 жыл бұрын
Im suprised Raul took the hosts for a ride of circular reasoning for that long. That was painful
@roman9509
@roman9509 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Dormand, just throws every apologetic rebuttal he ever heard to see what sticks...
@drivinsouth651
@drivinsouth651 4 жыл бұрын
"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" 1 Peter 3:15 Be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you. Bible God worshippers should be ready to explain why they believe what they do. This is a good verse to remember when they refuse to debate you. Thank you very much for this verse Matt; great video and thanks for all y`all do!
@upherteenass636
@upherteenass636 4 жыл бұрын
Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him
@upherteenass636
@upherteenass636 4 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Shaw Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
@upherteenass636
@upherteenass636 4 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Shaw praise God !!!! 😇
@upherteenass636
@upherteenass636 4 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Shaw Matthew 12:46-50 King James Version (KJV) 46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. 47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. 48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. Bye
@jckensway2956
@jckensway2956 4 жыл бұрын
One of the amusing (and annoying) things about Christians who insist on trotting out to you verses from the Bible is that almost every other religion in the world can throw up the same kinda stuff. For example, I bet you could fool any numbers of Bible ‘experts’ with carefully chosen verses from Buddhist or Islamic scripture.
@kairigby9117
@kairigby9117 4 жыл бұрын
I turned 40 today. I had an amazing day and thought I'd finish it off with a bit of AXP before bed. However, I think I've lost about 20 years of wisdom and a good chunk of my remaining braincells, just on Davids call alone. I have no more words.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't got to David yet. But happy birthday.
@Jupiter_Crash
@Jupiter_Crash 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday! 🧁 Yeah, unfortunately it’s time we won’t get back. BTW watch at “playback speed 2x” then you only lose half the time.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 4 жыл бұрын
Just got there. Within 2-3 sentences ...I PROfessie...a train wreck a comin!
@miboogaroo
@miboogaroo 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday mate. Hope you have had a lovely day.
@howtheworldworks3
@howtheworldworks3 4 жыл бұрын
David- Delusion at it's finest. I am so horrified by that caller for a very personal reason. My mom speaks like that now and the reason is exactly the same. She drank excessive amounts of alcohol for far too long and over the years she ruined her brains and the ability to be rational.
@MrYogiBell
@MrYogiBell 4 жыл бұрын
How satisfying is it to hear a intelligent, well spoken & delivered questions & answers...... Thank you Nathan👍🏾
@tkat6442
@tkat6442 4 жыл бұрын
Good show! I liked how it eventually went with Raul. I think he's a nice guy, and you all parted on good terms. Maybe this will be good food for thought for him (don't we all have to examine our beliefs and ideas, after all!).
@Shaewaros
@Shaewaros 4 жыл бұрын
This time all calls were just complete waste of time, even more so than usual.
@Simonofcalifornia
@Simonofcalifornia 4 жыл бұрын
Just like porn, it’s entertaining.
@lfl5982
@lfl5982 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the major problems when it comes to these types of arguments is.... or at least seems to be the idea that humans are the epitome of greatness, that we are in some way the best of what can be. I think we should be open to the idea that this may not be the case and we should also understand that we can be incorrect at times with the things we believe in. I believe there is nothing more dangerous than a person who thinks they are 100% correct and have no chance of being mistaken, in my opinion this is the kind of thinking that convinces a person to blow themselves up or fly planes into buildings .
@lazersly
@lazersly 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait until they can broadcast from the studio again lol
@lazersly
@lazersly 4 жыл бұрын
MindCreatedAll Of course atheism has answers. It answers one of the most important questions: should I believe any of these religious claims? And the answer is always a resounding “no”. I find it therapeutic to hear it proven over and over again each week. :)
@Titantr0n
@Titantr0n 4 жыл бұрын
You can almost physically see Nathan's metal barrier. He absolutely cannot imagine, not even hypothetically, that his God could not exist
@losmanzani6849
@losmanzani6849 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man the sincerity in Raul's voice in thinking he had presented a good argument was surreal. I liked Johnny's wrap up at the end of the call that was great! Love Matt but Johnny is a good counter balance to Matt's personality.
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