props to Zerode that hold this idea many years, finally its the future
@stephen_hughes12 сағат бұрын
It's not even just Zerode, its Lahar too who you could say had a bigger impact on the gearbox bikes but sadly they didnt capitalise on it because the guys mental.
@NikolaiVozza6 сағат бұрын
Downhill makes sense. The rest of the disciplines, too heavy and too much drag.
@roddas266 сағат бұрын
Thats what I was thinking, was wondering are they going to even mention Zerode?
@meteturhan35053 сағат бұрын
@@NikolaiVozza Wrong.
@briandrum440616 сағат бұрын
That is an effing beautiful bike. I can’t wait till they come into commercial production. I want one.
@littlehobbies14 сағат бұрын
Well I just found my new DH frame. Can't wait to see this brought into production.
@glencompton294917 сағат бұрын
It’s great to get this hype and small insight into the development journey. This team/organisation is so impressive and a credit to all involved. The bike looks amazing! Can’t wait to see how it stacks up.
@CantTalkImRiding16 сағат бұрын
This surge of belt driven bikes is going to make this racing season more exciting. These development videos are awesome. I'd like to more nerdy discussions about details and kinematics and stiffness, but maybe a lot of that is top secret. The bike looks rad.
@BBKDRAGOON16 сағат бұрын
Great video, what an exciting project. Stoked to see the gearbox route, how cool. Also shout out to the great liquid and chill dnb music in the background, so rad
@MichiganManiak10 сағат бұрын
I love the engineering and behind the scenes looks into what you guys do. Makes a Gear Nerd like me happy!
@theycallmebernd18 сағат бұрын
this is the future! and i am usually complete against new "trends"
@vlbz18 сағат бұрын
I'm only against pointless changes and new standards, but belt drive is definitely not one of those. I would love to have this bike.
@Jon1Surf1Lim16 сағат бұрын
Always seen the attraction of gearbox bikes but they have always been really niche but now this is really going to push them on, not long now when we will have low maintenance drive trains that are quiet and don't self destruct in British winters 👍🏻
@williamheffernan58263 сағат бұрын
Love the bike as well. But honest question, how do you figure this isn't a niche bike as well?
@mob480116 сағат бұрын
I’ve been riding a peregrine cycles high pivot pinion frame for the last few years, love it! Stoked for this! This small frame builder has been building this design exclusively since at t least 2015
@robburley949416 сағат бұрын
To be at this point in that time frame is just incredible, well done guys.
@fyretyger8445 сағат бұрын
Wicked! My son just got a Zerode taniwha and the handling with the lower unsprung mass really is superb. Atherton bikes are tasty! Hope they follow through on this project.
@ryanliversage16 сағат бұрын
Starting to look like you all want it and how the industry needs it .. very nice 👌🏻
@slidehamma3 сағат бұрын
Exciting times! The silence of the ride and clean looks really appeal to me. Have been drooling over Zerode for a couple years but great to see there will be many other alternatives around the corner... Including British made ones! ❤🎉
@derekbaker87919 сағат бұрын
Amazing to see it finally starting to happen!
@andyprior80217 сағат бұрын
This looks AMAZING. I'll take a A.150.G please 🙂
@NZCycletherapy11 сағат бұрын
A big reason gear box bikes are only now being accepted as the best solution in an off road environment is the massive industry behind drivetrain parts, Shimano and SRAM do not want you to severe your dependance on them, otherwise they both would have had their own by now (oil bath and proper machine cut gears, not an ‘internal derailleur system’).
@myfrequencies19126 сағат бұрын
I expect they'll unveil their own gearboxes when the market opens up.
@craigcox18717 сағат бұрын
Stoked to see this at some races this season!
@morkula016 сағат бұрын
One big advantage of belt drive is that the rear hub doesn't have to have such a wide body for something as wide as the cassette to mount on. It makes more room for the spokes to be mounted to the hub further apart and increasing the lateral stiffness of the wheel. There isn't yet hubs like that but would be a good place for improvement.
@mob480116 сағат бұрын
Yes, use a single speed hub that has the wider flange spacing= a stiffer wheel
@MrHypermoto13 сағат бұрын
DT, Hope, and Hadley make 142mm spaced single-speed hubs. They use wider flanges with zero dish, and a short freehub body with spacers that allow for aligning the chainline (or 'beltline', new term). I would love to see them used on these bikes, it allows for a narrower rear end and better heal clearance.
@craigfroome39311 сағат бұрын
@@MrHypermoto Zerode spec a 142x12 hub as standard on their Katipo 👍
@wonderwatch223916 минут бұрын
Could be, but the pros, loosen the spokes on their wheels now, for compliance, so not that necessary, but strength might be the biggest advantage 🤷♂️
@brodelridesbikes16 сағат бұрын
This is an ultimate dream bike of mine. Pinion + High Pivot+ DW. Great job guys. Can't wait to see it behind race tapes
@gnarlyfox15 сағат бұрын
Did they say it’s actually “Pinion” ? Or another gearbox ?
@Montytobin15 сағат бұрын
@@gnarlyfox its gates
@brodelridesbikes14 сағат бұрын
@@gnarlyfox 7:16 that looks like a pinion gearbox. Just my thoughts though. Could possibly be something else.
@gnarlyfox14 сағат бұрын
@@Montytobin a gates gearbox ?
@mob480114 сағат бұрын
it’s absolutely a pinion smart shift gearbox. Gates is the belt manufacturer.
@jonathanporter522317 сағат бұрын
I bought my bike 3 years ago from a company based out of NYC called Priority Bicycles, and a major selling point was the single speed Gate's carbon belt drive system that came standard on the bike. In fact, they specifically only offer Gate's with their bikes. They make a variety of bikes for most applications, but definitely not a dedicated DH bike like the Atherton. So, its really cool to finally see this carbon belt drive system being utilized on MT bikes. Honestly, idk why other mtb companies haven't embraced the Gate's system.
@pauld184816 сағат бұрын
I bought a Priority bike for my son and the drivetrain has been very reliable after 3 years. BUT, the brakes and general component spec isn't good at all. Also, the gear ratio is very flatlander focused and not made for a small child to climb hills. Just observations from another Priority owner.
@brianculver4335 сағат бұрын
@@pauld1848 Check out the specs of the Priority 600HXT. This bike is their new hardcore hard tail!!! I have one and love it.
@bazxtrailСағат бұрын
Wow, that was so interesting, can we have more, please? Would love to ride it! 🤙
@timwhitburn626011 сағат бұрын
Finally some real innovation RIP the derailleur & chain
@BryceLovesTech10 сағат бұрын
This will be a perfect trail bike in Florida
@elslanedog12645 сағат бұрын
The thought of never having to degrease a chain has me reflexively tapping my wallet pocket. Looks mean too.
@timwithers931514 сағат бұрын
Exciting times at Athertons, British development at its best, gearboxes are the way forward👍 in these difficult times for the mtb community🤔 good luck guys👍
@dalegowling273217 сағат бұрын
Knew it wouldn't take long to do this when you brought the DH frame out. I've thought of a few that could adopt this tech that is long overdue. Great work 👍
@UPMTB18 сағат бұрын
Sweet, the coil shock of drivetrains ? Looks like it eats up bumps, would be fun to ride one of the DH bikes
@TheS4jordan11 сағат бұрын
Such an awesome looking bike can't wait for the day I'm good enough to need / justify such a machine but great to see a British company at the cutting edge AND actually winning, here's to 2025
@T-rick14 сағат бұрын
That first run down I bet was WILD.
@joecarlino827916 сағат бұрын
Awesome video and project!
@AdamAllaker11 сағат бұрын
Interesting that other brands have been touting gearbox bikes for a while now but somehow now Atherton are releasing something it seems more real and something to be excited about.
@stephen_hughes12 сағат бұрын
These need to go into production.
@weaselsmopar684317 сағат бұрын
Love the bikes and I am hoping that maybe you will be doing the Enduro with a belt drive as I think I will go this route for my last bike. I would love it to be a Atherton bike if possible.
@titouanhoellinger720218 сағат бұрын
This is engineering, my dream job 😍
@Lee-y6t7f16 сағат бұрын
What we really need is timed runs against a bike with chain and rear mech to see which if any is the better ,faster set up . This is racing at the highest level so no gimmicks just speed counts
@stevietoft448010 сағат бұрын
Did you watch the video with no sound? Literally said they ran timed laps at Llangollen on both. Box bike was sluggish in certain areas but felt tracked, so certain changes to the first iteration were needed My presumption is they not what they are doing and have a pretty experienced R&D squad.
@FlorianStorch8 сағат бұрын
Looking very good.
@andonismorales173411 сағат бұрын
Please do it on the all range of atherton bikes !!!
@Macca7413 сағат бұрын
Looks fantastic 👌👌👌
@brianculver4335 сағат бұрын
I have the Priority 600HXT which they market as their Hardcore Hardtail MTB. Would be interesting to see how is compares with the Zerode !?!? I am a senior and purchased the Priority as my keep fit and “smell the roses” instrument.. love this machine. For the serious youngsters out there the 600HXT would no doubt be better if it was titanium or carbon. My opinion (pun intended), Priority bikes with Pinion gearboxes and Gates belt drives are pioneering belt driven machines and the future of off road cycling.
@jonathancole982915 сағат бұрын
We just need it to trickle down more to enduro and trail bikes, oh and then for the prices to also drop a bit. Looks great though.
@GavinFreedomLover12 сағат бұрын
Keep on going you'll catch up with Allen Millyard one day , cheers.
@natsrium27897 сағат бұрын
Love to see a s170g currently use my s170 as park & freeride jump
@jameswhiteley309514 сағат бұрын
Awesome looking bike and fun to see the process in developing it. How many speeds are in the Pinion gearbox for a DH bike?
@brianculver4335 сағат бұрын
I have the Priority 600HXT with the Pinion C1.12 Smart Shift Gearbox - 12 Speed 600% evenly spaced electronically controlled shifter.
@lukasvrana638817 сағат бұрын
Nice....due 100k USD reward we will see more belt drives this year! I want it on DH and also on my ebike!
@MarkusFinholt17 сағат бұрын
Just the silence will give immense confidence to most riders. That alone will probably make up a lot of time.
@matth264517 сағат бұрын
Love the innovation! when is the Enduro eeb coming?
@countryseller25 минут бұрын
So nice to see hodor found a career after GoT.
@ericsimpson8414 сағат бұрын
Love this…
@SamOdonnell-t6f14 сағат бұрын
That’s what dreams are made of right there ! When do they go into production? I want one badly
@TheOldFrenchGoatProduction7 сағат бұрын
RAD on !!!!
@3DReproductions16 сағат бұрын
Looking Good! 😍🤩
@frontierfishingwithRyanMacD16 сағат бұрын
I would LOVE to test out a belt drive just to see the difference in performance
@MrChristiangraham17 сағат бұрын
100K reasons to want to see this succeed 😂
@ziph784217 сағат бұрын
That rear-end is more active than a roadman shotting 10 bits!
@tonkshred16 сағат бұрын
Beautiful machine 😊 🤤🔥🔥🔥
@ericsimpson8413 сағат бұрын
After the first time I rode my priority I knew pinion and gates was the future.
@brianculver4335 сағат бұрын
Ditto Eric. I love my 600HXT !!!
@Andres221Rider17 сағат бұрын
Impressive! 🔥
@LarsDreyer7 сағат бұрын
Do ya’ll test it up against competitor bikes as well? I would think it could be beneficial to try and figure out what feels better on other bikes and how stuff is in general there, to know what you want to try and achive with this and not just sim for «better than A200M but mostly shooting in the dark. Phoenix, V10, Supreme and/or G3 perhaps?
@Alex-md6bu12 сағат бұрын
What’s not said in this video…. Look we figured out suspension and frame integration and suspension design for when we make an ebike using pinions motor gearbox unit!!!!
@impatience445010 сағат бұрын
That'd be the motherload/holy grail bike setup, 100%!
@jeroenhoeks527115 сағат бұрын
I ride specialized buth these atherton bikes looks so sick and really strong i going tho look for a. Enduro atherton ❤❤❤
@dhrracer13 сағат бұрын
Has anybody done any data acquisition of time in each gear, of that time was the rider pedaling and when pedaling was it putting power down or just spinning on a traditional drivetrain on a variety of WC courses? Perhaps it was stated but what Pinion gear box are they using?
@brianculver4335 сағат бұрын
Pinion C1.12 Smart Shift.
@UnicornBikes3 сағат бұрын
I didn't know the dh bike had both a seat tube and a seat post. Any reason why the seatpost doesn't go straight into the lug? Could probably save some money and weight there?
@F4Bs3Y17 сағат бұрын
The next Step for Bike Industry is done!
@nobrakes724722 минут бұрын
How soon are you going to have that ebike gearbox version available to buy
@Aeysir26 минут бұрын
What are the percentage drive train power losses associated with a belt drive compared to the stock chain drive? Chances we will see this on the enduro and trail offerings?
@TucanoTMK1Сағат бұрын
Alan Milliard Built some Gearbox bikes in his Shed For his Son to do Downhill Racing.Single sided swingarm,enclosed drive train and gearbox , He even built his own dampers !One Man With No computer Design in a Shed !!!!!! What you have Done is Fit a Gearbox Bought in and Just Fitted it to a Frame all Done With a Big Team and CAD,So Not that Clever.
@dukedoker889917 сағат бұрын
swing it to the left,swing it to the right,building cool shit is out of sight!
@greengonzonz15 сағат бұрын
Yes yes yes. ❤
@craigbosworth8018 сағат бұрын
Sickkkkk
@AthertonRacing18 сағат бұрын
just the beginning!
@craigbosworth8018 сағат бұрын
@@AthertonRacing can't wait guys 😍
@christianobermeier786215 сағат бұрын
is it just a prototype or is it gonna be ride on World Cup !
@drewcama24885 сағат бұрын
What does Rachel think?
@craigbosworth8018 сағат бұрын
Omg 😮
@AthertonRacing18 сағат бұрын
you can read more here: www.athertonbikes.com/gates-a-200-g
@IsfjordenBASE17 сағат бұрын
Great looking bike and very fun to see the R&D behind it!
@nathanbray33416 сағат бұрын
cant wait to see bk on this wen he signs
@mob480114 сағат бұрын
My bet is BK retires with pivot
@ForOdin16 сағат бұрын
It’s so weird not hearing a freewheel buzzing
@StevenEliuk17 сағат бұрын
Sick~!!!
@MC_556217 сағат бұрын
Andi Kolb already regretting, that he went to YT...
@ianaddiction380813 сағат бұрын
Doubt it considering the money YT are paying him
@RickyDownhillRDH3 сағат бұрын
Yeah. Us mtb'ers are pretty much sick and tired of using the same drivetrain as the Wright Brothers. SERIOUSLY!!
@chriscarol49653 сағат бұрын
If you already have Continental as a sponsor, why didn’t you take a Conti belt for the driveline instead of one from Gates?
@slidehamma3 сағат бұрын
It's in prototype phase. Explain "one crime?" please?
@iancourt327413 сағат бұрын
One step closer to my ultimate dream.....just add a motor......there,.... i said it😅
@harrie20517 сағат бұрын
i want to enduro that thing(give me enough seatpost insertion depth)
@lbktm12 сағат бұрын
That was interesting, may earn you a 100lk. Now make an eeb and make millions.😊
@mej65193 сағат бұрын
track id at 17.36 please.
@adrianwilkinson254715 сағат бұрын
This. 🤘❤️🌈🕊️🌍
@saneysane535611 сағат бұрын
Cmon! I thought I just bought the new shit! Lol
@SILASBEAVER5 сағат бұрын
Centralization of mass…. Physics. More dependable, lower maintenance transmission.. why is this not the standard? Planned obsolescence?
@eugeniasalas825713 сағат бұрын
wwowwwwwww other level
@roddas266 сағат бұрын
Interesting you never mention Zerode. Says a lot really. Show some respect.
@Chip_in17 сағат бұрын
Hundy k ⛳
@1959AD17 сағат бұрын
Cool but would prefer the gearbox , cogs etc to be same colour as the ti lugs.
@gazmothedamaja2 сағат бұрын
Atherton; Bikes for dentists.
@rider8888m13 сағат бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@MloVisual17 сағат бұрын
Plumbing pipes for a bike nah man
@arrogantcyclist15 сағат бұрын
Naysayers gonna naysay
@rosscameron408810 сағат бұрын
I would like to see belt drive for revers recumbent trikes. It's just a mater of belt length and a center jockey wheel to Carrie one or two belts what ever would be the best application.