Buying or Selling NFL Offseasons: Teams in Transition

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@TheAlbert1A1
@TheAlbert1A1 3 ай бұрын
Trash titans takes as usual from casuals
@TheMattTrakker
@TheMattTrakker 3 ай бұрын
"The roster needs to be prebaked"...same people that said the Texans' roster was so bad going into last season that they had a chance to pick 1 overall.
@justinvigeant3639
@justinvigeant3639 3 ай бұрын
Seriously I keep seeing this sentiment echoed and I don't think that's the norm at all
@bashir234
@bashir234 3 ай бұрын
@@justinvigeant3639yup it’s not the norm at all teams don’t go from projected worst team to second round in the playoffs
@royleggitt3307
@royleggitt3307 3 ай бұрын
Joe Alt has only been playing tackle for less than 3 years. That is not a long time. He is totally still learning. Changing techniques is going to be natural and seamless. You can't teach 6' 8"! Sorry if I believe Balwdy instead of a want to be know it all.
@drbenway4
@drbenway4 3 ай бұрын
Daniels over Williams is ludicrous...
@bernieburnham
@bernieburnham 3 ай бұрын
Good video. Thanks. My question is: what would justify 29yo Calvin Ridley's contract being an overpayment (4y, 23m AAV, with an out at 2y, 25.5m AAV), but not an overpayment for the Texans trading the approximate net value of a R3 pick on 31yo Stefon Diggs at 1y, 22.5m (20.5m guaranteed), coming off just 43YPG in his final 8 games last year? I may be putting words in your mouth to assume you don't think that's an overpay, but consensus seems to love that deal for some reason. I understand that Diggs has more good years on tape, but he is two years older, has double the wear on his body (136GP to 66GP) and is showing signs of decline that Ridley isn't. As a take, it feels like one based on "We feel like the Texans are going to be good this year and the Titans aren't, so..." rather than on the actual deals.
@LamarFrancis
@LamarFrancis 3 ай бұрын
So it’s two things. 1 is that Diggs is still good, and it’s the offense that changed after the OC changed, not Diggs, so he’s worth that money. Also, it’s for one year for Diggs (they could franchise him after i think). However with Ridley, the issue isn’t just the lack of relative productivity (he has been productive - just not as much as Diggs), but the TL of the team and the ages of all the players. The Texans made it to the second round of the playoffs last year if i remember correctly, and that was with a rookie QB. With a few additions, it’s not beyond reason that they’d be Super Bowl contenders. With the Titans, they’re projected (this can change because they’re usually competitive) to be the worst team in the division. And as it’s a two year deal for Calvin, it’s not like it’s a move for the future. And the rest of the Texans cast is young. Nico is 25. Tank is 24. If Diggs doesn’t produce, he’ll be off the books quick. There is value in evaluating Levis by adding all the pieces tho.
@teamramrod27
@teamramrod27 3 ай бұрын
Another thing I think is being underlooked is: Who the hell do the titans have to extend the next couple years besides McCreary and MAYBE Chig? Jon Robinson’s last few draft classes were abysmal. I really struggle seeing the downside to these deals when you have a young QB with some promise. The only questionable one to me (besides Murray) is Chido.
@thomashageli9103
@thomashageli9103 3 ай бұрын
Honestly … I don’t really like either deal
@bernieburnham
@bernieburnham 3 ай бұрын
@@LamarFrancis If Diggs was a free agent, this deal would be a very good one, especially given the position the Texans are in. But that was a lot of draft capital to give up for a one-year rental. It's a gamble in that regard, but not an unreasonable one I suppose. Regarding Ridley, what I don't understand is what I think you're implying, and what a lot of media imply: "We believe the Titans are bad, therefore they should not spend their huge available cap space on quality players to help them get better, instead spending minimally on mediocre players so they can..." What? Stay bad?! What people don't seem to realise is the Titans have not pushed much money, if any, into future years to allow for signing these free agents. If they had, that would be unwise. They just have LOADS of cap space because they had very few players worth paying (Hopkins, Simmons, Landry, Hooker,... Key? is about it). The Henry and Tannehill money is mostly off the books, the Julio and Dupree money is gone too. They aren't going to leave that cap unspent. You can make an argument they should be looking younger, but if a player is young and worth paying, they are not a free agent. Ridley at least has the upside of limited wear on the tyres which may delay his decline. With that in mind, spending what will end up being 15th-most WR AAV on the 15th-(ish)-best WR is not an overspend to me.
@rjharrold2907
@rjharrold2907 3 ай бұрын
To put some words Jalen Ramsey said before but now in the context of diffferent players: "Oh so Im not Justin Jefferson to you well then go get Justin Jefferson. You cant? Guess im Justin Jefferson to you then" Point is what makes sense for the organization is to give in to paying the guys that are maybe 2-5 at the league in their position the same or a slight bump compared to the top of the market because trading them yeah they get other capitol but its not as gauranteed and other teams will also only do what makes sense for them in those trades. Best option is to pay 95% of the player the same money but yeah it all depends on market timing. If im a team im paying guys early if they dont have to really prove anything
@socks7773
@socks7773 3 ай бұрын
Vikings offered JJ 28M/year last offseason but you can’t force players to sign early, good for JJ he bet on himself
@kevincurnick
@kevincurnick 3 ай бұрын
Herbert crawled with Staley and Telesco so he could Run with Harbaugh and Hortiz ⚡
@jordanxwilliams
@jordanxwilliams 3 ай бұрын
So it’s hard for you to imagine a world where kliff kingburry has success with Jayden, when this is same guy who led Kyler, a undersized Qb who didn’t like to study to rookie of year award You don’t believe in him, and act like he wasn’t in a divison where 2 of those teams have been in 3 of the last 5 super bowls … and act like he’s a bum coach And the Ben Johnson situation, I’ll be interested when do we started looking at him as the issue, he’s done this twice now, back to back years, taking interviews with teams just to pull his name out the hat. Look at all the players that came here bc DQ and his impact, we can blame him for the superbowl lost but everybody who knows football knows that their OC (who’s now blown 2 leads himself as a head coach) was reason they didn’t seal that game
@mahomie3017
@mahomie3017 3 ай бұрын
That’s all fine and great I think the bigger worry is that OL behind an injury prone QB with an extremely high pressure to sack ratio
@jordanxwilliams
@jordanxwilliams 3 ай бұрын
@@mahomie3017 but that wasn’t what they discussed which is why I said what I said
@ref233
@ref233 3 ай бұрын
Pats should have traded down as much as possible, accumulate high picks, draft LT of their future in Amaris Mims, rebuild their OL, WR, TE perhaps and draft a franchise QB in 2025 or latest 2026 with team intact.
@Wisco-Titan
@Wisco-Titan 3 ай бұрын
I thought sports illustrated was shut down. For good reason too, they don't know ball.
@Nicho_Ldn
@Nicho_Ldn 3 ай бұрын
Alternatively, with rookie receivers doing so well early in their careers we should actually see the market becomes something more reasonable. The start of what has happened with RBs. Football pundits turn into little fanbois really: it’s always pay them, pay them, pay them.
@89dhand
@89dhand 3 ай бұрын
Only bad coaching can explain that oline for the Panthers. Well that and significant injuries to the guards
@romans325kjb
@romans325kjb 3 ай бұрын
Vikings should have paid JJ last season. imo. Chargers did well getting Harbaugh (even though I can not stand him). They will do well. Washington (who will always be the Redskins to me). Totally unsure about DQ. Time will tell. Panthers who has a iffy owner at best I would not buy. I like DC also. BY is to short. NE is a sell. NYG is in a make or break season with Jones. See how there trenches do in '24. Titans, sell. Broncos hold. Maybe in '25 will be a buy. RW trade really hurt them. Cards, buy. They did well with all there picks the last two years. Time will tell.
@mikeromano8140
@mikeromano8140 3 ай бұрын
Bo nix will have a better career than Drake maye.
@aidanwood1607
@aidanwood1607 3 ай бұрын
That’s like saying Micheal Penix was the best pick in the draft
@HpcZclan
@HpcZclan 3 ай бұрын
@@aidanwood1607Penix has a high chance and drake mate way better then Bo nix
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