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Atlanta | Season 2 Ep. 4: Van and Earn Scene | FX
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[@brucepatrick9442]

To me, This scene was hurtful, brilliant, the emotion was heavyyyy.

[@anthonywilliams6002]

Bruce Patrick Loved the scene this is what im looking for in a black woman.

[@godfathertrucking8918]

It’s insane how real this show is, I almost lost the love of my life over a similar conversation. A month or so ago. Being hard headed like earn. This shit was painfully real

[@stephenasmith4192]

Carl robinson the realness just adds to the brilliance.

[@Rummagers]

Friend, having been in Van’s shoes in similar conversations before with men I thought I loved, it’s not worth your time. You won’t get what you want or need from a person like that. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

[@blairdavidson6121]

Did you and your cousin work it out?

[@godfathertrucking8918]

@@blairdavidson6121 me and your ex did, yeah

[@grassmonkeyO5]

Haha lol

[@graciebradford]

When he says “this feels like a trap” what he doesn’t understand is his behavior has already lead van to feel trapped- living someone and having a child with them but gets no emotional security from them. She’s the one that’s really trapped

[@erroneouse1929]

It goes both ways actually, she was emotionally trapping him as well

[@RyomenAyeni225]

they are both in the wrong not just earn

[@dmfd_rosieperez9847]

@@RyomenAyeni225 how is Van wrong?

[@RyomenAyeni225]

@@dmfd_rosieperez9847 i meant they are both flawed

[@filmexpressreviews]

@@dmfd_rosieperez9847 she cheated, she manipulates and berates him, belittles him and puts unrealistic expectations on him. She's actually incredibly toxic.

[@kaykate2198]

I really enjoy the episodes with more of van in them because we get to know more about her and her background and she is relatable to me in some way. This show is perfect.

[@sirmel11]

she's relatable? this chick is wild

[@corrupt_insomniac]

Sirmel11 Most women are...

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@@sirmel11 a character can be wild and have some relatable aspects, ik ur joking but in case u arent

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@@corrupt_insomniac eh

[@owenleal]

Yeah they really benched Van as the show went on and its a shame.

[@TehTurtlezClan]

This episode was an emotional rollercoaster.

[@jarrellmckenna2988]

What I like the most about Earn and Vans relationship is they both screw up and have very selfish moments but they care about each other and the well being of Lottie. I’m glad Van gave him an ultimatum. She was growing tired of chasing him and seeing other dudes so she finally gave him the opportunity to be committed Earn just dumb and selfish sometimes

[@2126Eliza]

We've all been there. You don't come back from this conversation.

[@Eli-ss9gj]

Yep. There's your relationship before and after this convo

[@ChrisCarmona]

i'll take Van off your hands Earn

[@justnahayo8490]

💀

[@andregordon2599]

This is why I love this show, it can go from painfully real to ridiculous to expressionistic to serious again. DG is a genius

[@AJM5K6]

The entire series is excellent but how the focus shifts in season two is brilliant. Season one we are definitely on Earn's side. We see how he is treated and sees the world. But season two the story progresses but the biggest change is that we see how the world, his friends and family specifically, see Earn. This episode is perfect example of that. Vanessa wants a commitment, one way or another. The limbo is what she doesn't want. Earn is comfortable being in that limbo and struggling for all the wrong reasons. He won't commit to being Vanessa's partner, he can't be the manager Paper Boi really needs. He proves himself to his cousin Alfred at the end of the season and proves himself, finally, to Vanessa at the end of the series. Excellent TV.

[@sheruns8579]

These are they’re of scenes that imitate life. The amount of depression and settling between Van and Earn is extremely toxic. They are so down that even their up moments are calculated. I feel like they’re Love is lazy but that’s what happens when we have kids as teens or early twenties. I look around at some of my friends irl and their relationships have a similar narrative. I adore them for hanging in there but I’m good where I’m at till I figure something out.

[@aaronbrutus2654]

Honestly? I don't think it really matters what age you marry or have kids. Relationships always turn out this way in the end. I think we're all so alone but trying hard not to be.

[@AgentFTW1]

@@aaronbrutus2654 relationships do not always end up like that in the end wtf

[@aaronbrutus2654]

@@AgentFTW1 maybe it's just my family then. . .

[@sheruns8579]

Supreme Ace congrats

[@tminus543]

This scene was too real for a lot of men.

[@road_king_dude]

A lot men ain't real.

[@SvgeRose]

Road_Glider this comment 💯

[@KenTheWary]

Your mom is too real for a lot of men

[@nicolasclermont893]

Every girlfriend ive had we've had this conversation. Do men really not have these conversations?

[@txic_headsht1873]

@@nicolasclermont893 Yeah it's a lot of dudes who don't talk with they're girlfriends about this sort of thing, Too emotional I hear

[@charleswilson1339]

Damnit Earn.

[@fullsend4976]

Charles Wilson they both messed up tho?

[@sirmel11]

i don't think earn messed up

[@2126Eliza]

Sirmel11 he's incapable of honesty

[@yami7339]

@@2126Eliza i think he's too honest lmao

[@alexgobin3690]

K OS why do you think they both messed up? Earn couldn’t go out and pretend to have fun for a few nights for his girl? Idk as a man I feel like I can put aside my own feelings of not wanting to be there for a day or 2 to make my girl happy, especially if that is the mother of my child

[@MOBROOKS]

Van: “what do you want?” Earn: “I don’t know.” I had this conversation a million times in my player days. It always sucked. I hated hurting girls. Yet I knew even though she was cool to fuck and hang out with she wasn’t the one I wanted to be my one and only. But it still sucked having to part ways with a girl you really liked, But didn’t quite like enough to commit.

[@Izeezus]

A much needed episode. Earn and vans relationship is really vital to the story and wasn't portrayed that much in s1. Even though this episode wasn't my cup of tea (or my favorite), it was an important episode to have and I appreciate it

[@yaasmeen114]

i loved the small moments of details the moment of when the camera showed the warning sign on the child's car seat and then 15 seconds later ...

[@magicbenyahweh]

This was a good ass episode

[@rsingh2595]

P25C u trippin, u skipped over like the whole season lol 😂

[@jybrdls3647]

By far my favorite episode because of this scene...it hit home.

[@Ksavage2010]

Anybody feel like this was similar to the ending scene to Love and Basketball,but the difference is Earn wasn’t really fighting to make it right ? He was bullshitting that ping pong game.

[@dbboykid10]

Nah he was definitely trying she's both just better and was tired of playing games with earn so giving it 110%

[@lightuponlight6727]

I'm down for the honest convo . Wonderful writing... clear sh*t up, know where stand and what you want. Saves on a lot of pain later.

[@christophergongora7885]

Robbin Season at it again

[@MJM8715]

Realest Line- “I don’t want you to waste anymore of YOUR time...”

[@jojojohnson227]

He didnt force her to throw her life away by getting in bed with them tf 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jojojohnson227]

You bitches wasted your own time

[@jbasti227]

This show has yet to do ANYTHING wrong

[@Christglobalministries816]

Except not coming out with season 3

[@dru8137]

@@Christglobalministries816 At LAST

[@TSR228]

If you don’t want someone or what they want just leave that person alone. Don’t be selfish just let it go. Everyone will be fine in a few months. 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@jojojohnson227]

After us men get what we want we getting rid of you bitches simple get over it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lohell]

Literally me and my ex. Even the German part. I felt this on so many levels, and I dislike that it does. I certainly wish I saw this sooner.

[@gedoplanet]

I really wish I watched this before I broke up with my girl. Sometimes I think yea “yea she had to go”, then I also think “I wish I tried harder, maybe things might’ve gotten better”...

[@USMCLP]

Same.

[@hopet7090]

Like earn didn’t even try the whole episode and it’s so frustrating cause it’s real

[@4thHorsemam]

Hope Terrance Yeah it was but she didn’t try either she thought earn would just go with it.

[@queenkiki595]

@@4thHorsemam how did she not try?

[@marcingram5998]

Cause he didn't want to be there... if this the type of stuff she likes doing, I would have let her go too.

[@demoncatthing]

QueenKeke she excluded him on what to do during that ball toss game then got mad when he won. She spoke German with the bartender and wasn’t translating anything for him. Guy was flirting with her in front of him too. Van was not innocent in this episode

[@AgentFTW1]

He was trying. He was putting up with all her weird German culture stuff even though he was EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

[@8mile12345]

What’s great about this scene also is besides the fact this is relatable this is also a culmination and continuation from the car scene and “Van not getting the credit she deserves subliminal” scene from The Juneteenth episode

[@MrBaar20]

To me, this is exactly what my life is

[@wesleygarcia8363]

Such a beautiful scene. This hits even harder after seeing how earn feels towards the end of the show during the camping episode.

[@bobbymoss6160]

Problems in a relationship arise when both parties can't be honest with each other, can't trust one another, and can't sacrifice for the benefit of the other party. Modern relationship is two immature adults pretending to love each other, but falls apart immediately when the test comes up.

[@iamjoshuahoward3132]

DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN IT EARN

[@SvgeRose]

This was definitely me 2 years ago at one point of my relationship. Now that I’ve been alone for awhile I get where van is coming from. Earn is running, and if something stops him from running he can’t stop. Witch is why he says “it still feels like a trap”

[@SvgeRose]

Yeah if u notice in the first scene they give away the plot.

[@alexanderthegreat1270]

@@SvgeRose God I am so dumb, thank you for pointing this out. I never realised that Earn’s dream basically details his entire character. The hands are reaching up to grab him, but he’s terrified of being pulled down so he swims fast on the surface. It’s even pointed out later by another character, “Why do you think the hands mean to harm you?”

[@cosmicmanhunt2155]

My relationship went downhill and ended weeks after this episode, thanks Donald, now I'm going to watch s3 alone

[@teaandlifetipswithuncleiro855]

Are you blaming losing your relationship on watching Atlanta?

[@inimicalintent8825]

Damnit Earn just be straight and honest. She's beautiful, smart, and cares for you and your daughter. Just say that you want to be in a committed relationship as well, but that you also want to see how this rap music business adventure ends up because it might pay off for Lottie and the future. You're a college drop out, and minimum wage isn't enough to support the family, and so this rap thing might be the lottery ticket out of miserable poverty. See? Simple Earn. But I guess audience has to also remember that Earn is still in his 20s. He's still a stupid kid somewhat, even though technically he's an adult. He doesn't have the wisdom yet to use the right words.

[@carlosspears5793]

😑

[@91Definite]

I say he’s at least in his mid 20’s

[@CS-wn2sz]

Why are we assuming earn is making the wrong move here? They’re expectations of the relationship are different so they broke up. It seems reasonable enough. You can’t demand that people value things they way you do

[@bradying807]

BEAUTIFULLY said. “Earn doesn’t have the wisdom to find the right words yet.”

[@africarib]

But Earn isn't stupid. If he really wanted that he could have said that. No need to try and put words in his mouth. He's fine bumming along right now and he said so.

[@craiwarren7649]

Mmmmm bro was honest respect that if that's all it takes for you to be gone it is what it is

[@manowar5516]

*IT'S A TRAP!!!*

[@emeraldkaysgarden]

i related to that scene.

[@tremarcez]

Why does Van sound like me, and Earn sounds like every girl I meet?

[@standupguy12]

Thank goodness I did not watch this with my girl around. Probably would have prompted the same convo between us, and we would have broken up. Our arrangement really works for me. I FEEL YOU EARN!!!

[@topgamer88]

standupguy12 when she said I want to be valued as a human being instead of an accessory you can fuck I was like god damn that's some real shit

[@TheEarthisghetto]

standupguy12 if you have to worry about this scene breaking up your relationship because your girl would see it that's saying a LOT about you and how strong y'alls "relationship"is 🐸☕

[@standupguy12]

Kie Weston I am aware, but this arrangement works for me right now.

[@alvinbratz2423]

I feel you dog. Men want to get their nut in but we're not tryna kill people in the process.

[@alexarias5717]

standupguy12 so you're saying it doesn't work for her and you don't want her to realize that?

[@keeganollerhead2075]

yo their relationship was so perfectly crafted in season 2

[@CCC-V3]

Relationships should be about you putting the other person before yourself and if they feel the same way about you than the growth of a healthy relationship can bloom.

[@davidestrada4942]

He has to Earn it

[@word1013]

A man’s tentative demeanor indicates his reluctance to change...

[@AKno47372]

come along way since this scene...

[@NaijaCINE]

#HurtBae

[@AzaiaGetA-ss]

This scene hit me too hard-

[@Chromaticcelestial]

Men out there. My father was this man, and he ended up with a woman that gave him that "space" he wanted so much that when he got sick she left him in a crappy nursing home. My stepmom secretly resented him. So please be realistic what youre asking for. My Mom was Van waiting around, and wasted her youth on my Dad waiting around. And his care is out of our hands. Don't expect loyalty if you're not going to give it back. And you will get older. So running is a short-term game my men!

[@miguelj6375]

Everyone has had one of these conversations

[@henryzamora9879]

Love is hard,especially when you’re poor,money fixes everything,even love,but it also depends on what type of person you are

[@joeljohnson3904]

Watch this show off shrooms, it’s amazing

[@91Definite]

Van a good woman and I’m pretty sure she doesn’t let everybody in her world but let Earn in. Earn I hope you get everything together soon man, she’s a good woman. She has patience but I don’t think long enough for Earl to change

[@Dark-Shinobi]

Can someone please explain to me how Earn did anything wrong? Seriously I completely understand were he is coming from he is still trying to figure shit out for HIMSELF and what's Vans beef anyway??? He doesn't like whack shit like that party 90% of Black American men don't and his experience as a Black man is different than hers as a biracial women. No one mistakes van for black face at the party, she didn't get searched when they went to the club either. Lastly did anyone else notice the attention they got walking through town.

[@jacobtacosta]

DarkShiniobi It's all perspective, man. No one is right and no one is wrong in this scene.

[@blade1hunter100]

Van's beef is how "lazy" Earn is in the relationship in a sense. She seeems to want a more commited relationship with Earn, but this episode shows Earn doesn't want to commit as much as Van does, I.E. by showing how he kinda brushes everything off the entire episode because it wasn't how he did things. At the same time, I do see Earn's point of view of wanting to stay in an "easy" relationship. He even says "This arrangement works for me." The entire episode Earn was out of his comfort zone, and if he was commited, he would most likely do stuff like this more often than not, and some guys don't want to go through that.

[@Angels8Harmony]

@@blade1hunter100 this was well articulated! I appreciate your perspective

[@lilkeke1958]

OK OK last one😂😂😂. 😐feelings don't have words💯

[@kkelseym]

I understand why a lot of people side with Van on this but I think Earn is completely within his right to want something casual and consistent. Earn does tries for Lottie but he just doesn't want something deeper than surface level with Van so I can't really hate him.

[@jbauer72]

Van broke my heart at the word "fuck."

[@Wyndamn]

Deadpool 2 Domino!!!

[@postal1342]

Van: I want a committed relationship where I am treated with respect. Earn: This feels like a trap Lol this a real thing yet women will stay like a dude like this forever and wonder why he treats her like crap

[@Cyberslum1]

so its a woman fault that she stays because she expects to be treated like she deserves? nah. its th means fault that he isn't being a man and living up to his potential

[@daftbanna7202]

Yeah why can't they just go for an intimate smart man like you god

[@leaderofatrueschool3]

Earn and Van are really terrible for each other

[@freddyvidz]

Can't leave anyone that fine!!!

[@dmfd_rosieperez9847]

But why’s my dude sitting on the floor when there’s a seat right behind him ?

[@carlsolowilliams]

When Atlanta was still an amazing show💯❤

[@eirianrobotto]

Tough watch

[@ehold6877]

And of course she wants this conversation...like millions of women out there. If he hasn't asked then he doesn't really want you. Simple.

[@MOMOarabe514]

Fucking earn man, van deserves better

[@humbledpanda2997]

You can't agree to play for special teams then demand the QB position. Your only option is to kick that field goal when you're called upon or quit the team. It's up to Ern to change your position or u can walk off the field.

[@joyajohnson2216]

“arrangement”??? Absolutely not.

[@jashardwallington]

Issa trap earn

[@lilkeke1958]

Diamonds my nigga. Thats how I see mine💯

[@9kevtorres]

i’m sorry lauren.

[@valeenoi2284]

Yup, it's a trap. Run dude, run.

[@Flodro250]

I have to have this conversation soon. It sucks.

[@ehold6877]

I feel like this show is down playing the brutally of actually living in Atlanta.

[@AzpecTProductionz]

She only wanted him back because he was making money again and she was going through a midlife crisis with her own job. She shitted on him when he was homeless.

[@carlosspears5793]

MF_Dunn people forget that lol

[@leave-itto-leroy7235]

Louder in the back my g 😂

[@africarib]

Shitted on him by giving him a place to live and bailing him out of jail. Right.

[@AzpecTProductionz]

@@africarib Earn still had his sales job, that’s why they were living together. When he got fired and couldn’t afford his part of the rent she didn’t wanna let him stay. Van even told her friend that at dinner

[@nmisa]

I'm not gonna lie I spent most of Season 2 annoyed by Earn

[@cristixncee8839]

Noah Suptho i think you really get to see how he is not just you average protagonist. He has real human flaws and can be a leech to his closest friends and family. Like in the Fubu episode, you see from Alfreds perspective on how Earn really uses him to get out of bad situation and how hes always been like that

[@u.a1952]

same

[@Jmcinally94]

Earn's inferiority complex is so self destructive, it was so hard to watch him throw everything away like this :( Good for Van though.

[@Samuraiwavy]

I don't like being portrayed on tv like this 😂

[@Max25670]

These are two people who are forced to deal with each other because they have a child together, it's not that deep.

[@AgentFTW1]

They are not forced to deal with each other in the same way they do in this episode and the episode where they go to the party. Or the episode they went to the strip club as a "date". They did that stuff because they genuinely cared about each other. Van lets Earn stay over when he's broke and has nothing to offer because she genuinely cares for him. They both love each other but Van wants to Earn to be more committed to their on and off "situation" than he wants to

[@africarib]

Exactly. Remove the child from the equation and really see how much you're committed to that person. Kids have so many people in this world tethered to folks they don't like or even want to be around if they were really given the choice.

[@justsaiyan8678]

.....trapped with emotion

[@AGElite87]

I like van she wifey material based on what she said in the clip that was a good answer

[@MrGNugget]

This is why your pull out game has to be A1, or you'll be stuck dealing with a chick you really don't wanna be with anymore and it's just miserable for the both of you.

[@boring.3486]

MrGNugget yup

[@boring.3486]

Not a mom but this is why conforme and birth control exists

[@demoncatthing]

Pull out doesn’t work. Nobody listen to this man

[@lednord741]

It's fun until you get called an "arrangement"

[@BRISKOLOKS]

Some guys really don’t pay attention to what a women is really trying to say

[@Wokerz92]

Good episode but definitely not the best .

[@justanotherrowegirl]

amen

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

What an Earnest scene

[@jpowers55]

Now watch Van hook up with a white dude.

[@EvilAnticsLive]

jpowers55 like that’s some sorta bad thing ;D hahaha

[@urmomisurdad5422]

jpowers55 Nah, she's too real for that.

[@slykoopagang]

She is with one in real life so too late and it actually is a bad thing.

[@jeremydavis5661]

CrownaRoyal she's half white tho

[@darthvader4720]

CrownaRoyal Racist...nice.

[@burritogamer3984]

So zazie actually is part German in real life?

[@jhamircounsel711]

Yeah

[@musicenlightened2055]

This show is so cringe on how relatable it is.

[@edox213]

Sooo...who won that ping-pong match?

[@lilkeke1958]

Favorite scene. More than vybz......Boys don't have accessories.

[@walterayala682]

I hated earn, all he had to was try in the slightest way.

[@kristofferwash1]

He bugging

[@mcallen8204]

This scene, and season 2 as a whole, cemented the fact that Earn was the worst character on "Atlanta." He redeemed himself by the end, but man. He was insufferable during "Robbin' Season."

[@GaryTurbo]

I would've take the step

[@scuzzlebutt3048]

Wow! Beautifully written my ex girlfriend and I had the same debate it felt like a trap!!

[@japanssilver]

What’s a trap?... seriously

[@Irmagerdd]

Fernanda Felicino its like when someone asks you a question and if u give them ur answer and they dont like it they flip it around so its like u brought it up

[@PowerfulOnes]

In this context he's calling it a trap because despite all the possible answers he can give, there if only one that won't get him into some shit (the one she's looking for) but even if he gives it she will know that he's lying which will probably get him into deeper shit

[@justsaiyan8678]

A trap is a trick by which someone is misled into acting contrary to their interest or intentions. PS: *You are beautiful!*

[@japanssilver]

ahhhhhhhhh yes thank you! man yeah deep

[@liveish2717]

Scooterific well stated

[@jonessada394]

LUCKY ME ....DEADPOOL

[@Theghot791]

😭😭😭 bro whyyyy did they break up maaannn

[@theblackgeno1848]

I don't really feel like either of them are a bad guy here stupid for waiting this long to have this conversation,they want different things right now and it better to tell the truth then pretend.