Who's the Boss: Why the Spin-Offs Failed

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@davincent98
@davincent98 2 жыл бұрын
I find it a tad ironic that the only episode in this list that didn't include Alyssa Milano was the one that took place in San Francisco and was called "Charmed Life".
@SuperMarioBrosIII
@SuperMarioBrosIII 2 жыл бұрын
@davincent98 which forshadows her in the WB/CW tv series "Charmed. "🤗🙄📺👍
@ronjay7831
@ronjay7831 2 жыл бұрын
We need a Charmed reboot with the original cast
@ghoesings
@ghoesings 2 жыл бұрын
I thought of Charmed too I'm watching the series now. But just the last few episodes of the series that always gets me
@Grannysbaby81
@Grannysbaby81 2 жыл бұрын
🤯🤯🤯🤯
@royrodgers4643
@royrodgers4643 Жыл бұрын
Charmed had been written in 80s
@teddyfurstman1997
@teddyfurstman1997 2 жыл бұрын
These failed Pilots are a gem to watch. Can't wait for more funny tv fails. Huge fan of The Nanny.
@Jamessmith-xk3fh
@Jamessmith-xk3fh 2 жыл бұрын
This show tried this and another spin off I think with a character from Sam's old neighborhood
@Laceykat66
@Laceykat66 2 жыл бұрын
I am too but WHY is that? It is a silly show with all the "gags" that we hate in failed sitcoms. Yet for some reason they made it work on The Nanny. ❤❤
@gbear2253
@gbear2253 2 жыл бұрын
It seemed that the 80s and 90s were looking for that next big hit of a sitcom. There were so many back door pilots. Family ties that I can remember. So there are more to cover 🙂
@proceedwithcaution1846
@proceedwithcaution1846 2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately Fran found HER role. The Nanny was hilarious. My elderly aunt and uncle turned me on to The Nanny. I discovered it late in life in syndication.
@amandaredd3057
@amandaredd3057 2 жыл бұрын
same!
@AndrewMacLaine
@AndrewMacLaine 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being obsessed with the theme song for "Living Dolls"! Tiny me held my tape recorder up to the TV speaker so I could listen to it over and over later!
@iconocrat
@iconocrat 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of this sort of thing. As long as you keep making them, I'll keep watching them.
@Jabberstax
@Jabberstax 2 жыл бұрын
Here here 👏
@ykook7000
@ykook7000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they are gems
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 Жыл бұрын
Same, TV history is my jam, especially when it's so charismatically presented
@theultimaterental
@theultimaterental Жыл бұрын
I would have loved to watch all these spin-offs. What a golden era of TV!
@robincook1852
@robincook1852 5 ай бұрын
It was a magical time!
@Whitechapelchap
@Whitechapelchap 2 жыл бұрын
I used to see Leah Remini on television pretty often in the 80's. Had no idea she'd one day co-star on my favorite sitcom, ever (King of Queens). The potential seems endless for these actors.
@derekwilliams1660
@derekwilliams1660 Жыл бұрын
I love Leah Remini on saved by the bell.
@nicktaylor2657
@nicktaylor2657 Жыл бұрын
She was Carla's daughter on Cheers that got married in the bar 😏
@courtneyjeffries390
@courtneyjeffries390 Жыл бұрын
@@derekwilliams1660 me too!!!
@FrenkTheJoy
@FrenkTheJoy 11 ай бұрын
Well it'd be pretty impressive if you DID know in the 80s she'd one day costar in King of Queens.
@mrsx7944
@mrsx7944 11 ай бұрын
She was definitely everywhere in the 80s lol
@blackamerican40
@blackamerican40 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at Kmart in 1991 and I remember the store was advertising CBS shows and a flyer for Princesses was hanging in the aisle when you first walked in.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 Жыл бұрын
After CBS pulled Princesses off the schedule and moved to USA Network with revised this version under the supervision of John Landis and his company, St. Clare Entertainment for Polygram Television with new cast and crew members. And of course, no more laughing tracks. Now it lasted longer for a total of 25 successful seasons from 1991 until 2016.
@oldmanonyoutube
@oldmanonyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
Who's the Boss was a lot of fun. Fran Drescher was awesome and funny in The Nanny. You can even see her shine in this "Charmed Lives" episode, she wouldn't be out of place starring next to Lucille Ball in an I Love Lucy episode.
@soso-mx8nb
@soso-mx8nb 2 жыл бұрын
I've thought she was the closest thing we got to a modern a lucy. Also ravens best friend in that's so Raven, I can't remember her name rn, but she gave me I love Lucy vibes
@1Channel1
@1Channel1 2 жыл бұрын
HOW ABOUT NO!!! fran drescher sux azz! That girl from Will & Grace looks like Lucille Ball. drescher is a COPYCAT & a wannabe!
@ericaheap
@ericaheap 6 ай бұрын
i believe fran drescher herself said she took a lot of inspiration from Lucy for jokes and stuff! the resemblance is clear as day
@nassauguy48
@nassauguy48 2 жыл бұрын
I still think Facts Of Life holds the record for the most failed spinoffs at six. The first involved Tootie's interracial aunt and uncle with conflicting careers. The second involved the four boys at Stone Military Academy (they tried this with two episodes, and the boys were simply male versions of the Eastland girls). The third involved Jo's widowed uncle with his two sons and one daughter. The fourth involved Blair and Jo enrolled as students at Langley College. The fifth involved Natalie moving in with a bunch of zany roommates in Manhattan while pursuing her writing career. (Just think, if this spinoff had worked, there would never have been a Friends). The sixth involved Blair buying out an about to be closed Eastland while becoming its headmistress and allowing boys to enroll in the school.
@selenaphillips6971
@selenaphillips6971 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember the one with Tootsie's interracial aunt and uncle. The rest I do remember.
@cjmiller6741
@cjmiller6741 2 жыл бұрын
The Langly College episodes were not backdoor pilots. The first was to situate Jo, Tootsie and Nat above Edna's Edibles because Jo's housing fell through. There was another episode where Blair was hazing a fraternity, but decided to live with the girls. Langley college was as important to the story as Eastland. Another was when Nat was taking and advanced college course. But these weren't intended to be a spin-off. The Finally of The Facts of Life was proposed to Lisa Welchel as a spin-off, but she declided. But the story was a natural conclusion to end the series, so the filmed it. In that episode, Seth Green and Juliette Lewis can be scene in the two-part finally.
@cjmiller6741
@cjmiller6741 2 жыл бұрын
@@selenaphillips6971 it was revealed in a later season, that the aunt and uncle divorced.
@alyciamariecomic
@alyciamariecomic 2 жыл бұрын
I second that the college years at Langley were not a back door pilot it was actually a part of the show they did a lot of episodes of the girls at college I believe even and Natalie eventually went to Langley. I love the sorority episodes I do remember the episodes about her aunt and uncle. I watched all those on me TV. Only true backdoor pilot was the one with the aunt and uncle. Make sense finale did not continue the story after 9 years I wanted to do it and I think it would have been the end would have only lasted a year. I think Natalie in New York was just a natural conclusion of what was next. The facts of life is my fave show but I can't wait for who's the Boss reboot super excited!
@cjmiller6741
@cjmiller6741 2 жыл бұрын
@@alyciamariecomic I hope they don't pull a "One Day At a Time." That remake was awful.
@tamaraclaw
@tamaraclaw 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of "The Nanny"...there was a backdoor pilot from "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" (the Melissa Hart series) with Charles Shaughnessy as the headmaster of a school for witches & warlocks.
@pladtoeputh
@pladtoeputh 2 жыл бұрын
fascinating if true, and well structured anyway - if false.
@tamaraclaw
@tamaraclaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@pladtoeputh I can’t find it on KZbin but I do remember watching it when it 1st aired. Maybe it will turn up on the reruns on Pluto or another streaming service.
@renacleerican7824
@renacleerican7824 Жыл бұрын
Charles Shaughnessy as the headmaster of a magic school in a 90s show would have interestingly changed my prepuberty's fantasies. Nice idea.
@eighmee2739
@eighmee2739 2 жыл бұрын
I was a tween then and LOVED Living Dolls. Leah Remini was tween goals. ♥️♥️♥️
@1Channel1
@1Channel1 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! They should have had Shannen Doherty as another model. Love them both!
@retrowarehouse2554
@retrowarehouse2554 Жыл бұрын
@@1Channel1 That actually would've been a great idea, sometimes when shows like these fail in their first season it's usually a missing ingredient like a miscast as Shannen would've been perfect in this, but we might not get BH 90210 which came out the season after Living Dolls.
@1Channel1
@1Channel1 Жыл бұрын
@@retrowarehouse2554 Didn't Shannen last only 1 season in that? I think Models would have been a much better fit for her. As I recall, she disliked playing the good daughter anyway. I've always wanted to see what Leah and Shannen could have done together. Either playing rivals or BFFs, they would have been great!
@1Channel1
@1Channel1 Жыл бұрын
@@retrowarehouse2554 In fact, I lamented that alyssa milano wasn't the one let go in Charmed and Leah Remini should have replaced her. Imagine that! 🤩
@retrowarehouse2554
@retrowarehouse2554 Жыл бұрын
@@1Channel1 Shannen was actually on BH, 90210 for around 4-5 seasons as she was definitely a major part in growing that show's popularity during the first few seasons. She became a bit of a bad girl in real-life which was one of the many reasons why she ended up leaving the show after the first few seasons. I think Shannen was definitely more interested in a bad girl role which fit her character better. Shannen likely would've been a better fit for Living Dolls especially next to Leah. They could've been like Blair & Jo on The Facts of Life where they were kind of frenemies on there. The best shows have character development and if they could've grown into a friendship that would've been great. It's very possible that Shannen could've helped save the show, but outside of the cast not getting along with each other, the timeslot killed the show too. Sometimes, I wonder if ABC was the best fit for it at that time. Probably should've been on Saturday mornings on NBC with Saved By the Bell or even FOX. This show in the right situation would've been mad popular overtime like Saved By the Bell or The Facts of Life definitely a missed opportunity on many fronts.
@nathanjones8732
@nathanjones8732 2 жыл бұрын
How Dan Akroyd pull Donna Dixon is one of the greatest mysteries in Hollywood 😆 😂
@cjmiller6741
@cjmiller6741 2 жыл бұрын
Is it? I mean, he was a top earner in Hollywood around that time.
@proceedwithcaution1846
@proceedwithcaution1846 2 жыл бұрын
I think timing played a role. Donna's fiance was away when Dan was available AND Dan has/had an inexplicable charm that was quite appealing. And women love funny guys. We do😍
@moniqrupley6019
@moniqrupley6019 Жыл бұрын
Have you read the gossip about Ackroyd in bed? Not hard to imagine why he dated such pretty ladies.
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 Жыл бұрын
​@@cjmiller6741 Not every celebrity marriage is modern whoremongering. It IS possible to find a nan attractive who doesn't look like 1980s Tom Cruise. Normies do it all the time.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 Жыл бұрын
Although they're divorced, both Donna Dixon and Dan Aykroyd were remained together as excellent parents, great friends and powerful business partners.
@scottwhitt9379
@scottwhitt9379 2 жыл бұрын
With these networks having their own streaming services, I don’t know why they wouldn’t put these short lived or unaired shows up. Some had big stars and they could get lots of news space when they’re added.
@07lollipop11
@07lollipop11 2 жыл бұрын
Because they’d have to pay residuals...
@_thechefskiss_
@_thechefskiss_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This brought back SO MANY MEMORIES. I have to say that I enjoyed the immensely. I can't wait to see what other gems you have for me.
@manestage5403
@manestage5403 2 жыл бұрын
Omg! That whole olive green look on Fran...😍😍😍😍
@crashburn3292
@crashburn3292 2 жыл бұрын
Fran Drescher can also be seen in 'Saturday Night Fever' briefly dancing with a young Vincent Vega lookalike.
@sharonjensen3016
@sharonjensen3016 2 жыл бұрын
"Are you as good in bed as you are on the dance floor?" her character asks Tony Manero.
@TheCleaner76
@TheCleaner76 2 жыл бұрын
Her line was - "Do you F..k as good as you dance"
@cjmiller6741
@cjmiller6741 2 жыл бұрын
Fran Drescher was a supporting player of the Wes Craven TV movie, Summer of Fear," starring Linda Blair.
@donaldwilson2620
@donaldwilson2620 2 жыл бұрын
I also loved her as Robin Williams girlfriend in "Cadillac Man".
@Jabberstax
@Jabberstax 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the 80s. TV, music and movies were all so much better back then. More videos like this please 🙏
@NightwatcherA465
@NightwatcherA465 Жыл бұрын
Yes 👍
@dalia8518
@dalia8518 Жыл бұрын
Me too ! The nostalgia 😩
@marla591
@marla591 2 жыл бұрын
I love these Backdoor vids! Thanks and great work as always!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@atomicabe
@atomicabe 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. We've got more coming....
@thisithis
@thisithis 2 жыл бұрын
Wahr odd Spinoffs, look up ALF: The Animated Series with was a spinoff and pre-sequel to ALF with led to a different spin-off ALF Tails. The Animated Series was where they took stories that ALF said in his sitcom and made them eps of The Animated Series. ALF Tails was they took characters from The Animated Series and made them do fairytales. ALF: The Animated Series lasted two seasons and ALF Tails lasted only one.
@marla591
@marla591 2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe YAY! 🎉🎉🎉
@tashaem1
@tashaem1 2 жыл бұрын
I hope things work out for the careers of those Halle and Fran ladies.
@RWildekrav66
@RWildekrav66 2 жыл бұрын
Ain’t gonna ever happen ! 😂😂😂😂😂
@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302
@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 nope both were failures in real life.
@bluebell1924
@bluebell1924 2 жыл бұрын
@@glennarcher986 All the people before you were just joking :-)
@carastone3473
@carastone3473 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@carastone3473
@carastone3473 2 жыл бұрын
@@glennarcher986 the joke about them being failures clearly went over your head. Doh!
@AndrewMacLaine
@AndrewMacLaine 2 жыл бұрын
I supported the recast for "Living Dolls". The blonde (not the actress' fault) was a copy of Blair Warner, and Vivica was too strong a presence for a supporting TV character. It's a shame, really, that the production focused on being a knock-off Facts of Life. Had they made it a show about fashion models doing fashion-y things, rather than the interpersonal relationships of teen girls living in a house together who occasionally have model gigs off-screen, it might have been more exciting.
@Anonymous-lr9we
@Anonymous-lr9we Жыл бұрын
Ok because I can't understand why they took Vivica off she is very talented AND BEAUTIFUL since that was the MAIN reason.
@Cakebattered
@Cakebattered Жыл бұрын
The model industry in the 1990s was toxic AF. No way they could attempt to sugar coat that industry.
@Whitechapelchap
@Whitechapelchap Жыл бұрын
I loved this and didn't for a second think it mirrored Facts of Life in any way. But I was just a kid, then.
@MegaMagicdog
@MegaMagicdog Жыл бұрын
@@Cakebattered Still is. Many would say it always was. If anything, we'd have had nothing but episodes about the casting couch, drugs, avoiding photogs shooting inappropriate photos and of course, eating disorders.
@lauraperrott
@lauraperrott 7 ай бұрын
I used to love Models Inc. but it was a terrible show
@glennarcher986
@glennarcher986 2 жыл бұрын
The Nanny wasn't a failure. It had 6 seasons. 6 seasons of pure laughter. And Fran Drescher is still hot!!!!
@rjb1216
@rjb1216 2 жыл бұрын
Not the nanny 🙄🙄
@glennarcher986
@glennarcher986 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjb1216 Online troll alert is now in effect!
@alfonsogreen2722
@alfonsogreen2722 Жыл бұрын
I've met Fran at my job. She still looks beautiful & she is nice
@donaldwilson2620
@donaldwilson2620 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been a fan of Judith Light, she's such a great actress. She was also great in her recurring role as Judge Elizabeth Donnelly on Law & Order: SVU.
@1Channel1
@1Channel1 2 жыл бұрын
Can't stand her!!! She ruins every show. She can't act. She only got where she is due to NEPOTISM!!! FACT!
@1Channel1
@1Channel1 2 жыл бұрын
Can't stand her. WHO did she Harvey Weinstein to get to the top with a face like that?!
@13blackcatzzz
@13blackcatzzz Жыл бұрын
It was so cool to see her among the cast of The Menu
@LannieLord
@LannieLord Жыл бұрын
@@13blackcatzzz She was OVER the TOP on One Life to Live in the early 1980s .
@bwcarter921
@bwcarter921 Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget Light in the Dynasty reboot... she was a great villain...
@starryblue04
@starryblue04 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Matt LeBlanc was in Married With Children or the spinoff! I do remember watching the backdoor pilot of Living Dolls. Leah Remini was great in it.
@Shishio28
@Shishio28 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. This is all so fascinating. I hope they churn out more backdoor pilot episodes more frequently
@LionWriter1012
@LionWriter1012 2 жыл бұрын
God I love these videos! 80’s and 90’s tv was such garbage but it’s hard not to get nostalgic. It really was a simpler time.
@TarotTanja
@TarotTanja 2 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot in this :) Didnt know that alyssa milano was a singer, that there was a german version of "whos the boss", and what a backdoor pilot is! Thank you.
@antmagor
@antmagor 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot checking in, the Jeffersons spinoff. The premise was Florence (Marla Gibbs) leaves working for the Jeffersons and becomes the manager/owner of a hotel in New York.
@tjames9698
@tjames9698 2 жыл бұрын
This spinoff lasted, literally, four episodes.
@SuperMarioBrosIII
@SuperMarioBrosIII 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjames9698 I know, however the very rare pilot did make it on to DVD not to long ago! Along with the Jeffersons complete tv series box set!
@erikadlloyd5586
@erikadlloyd5586 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Who's the boss as a kid. I do vaguely remember Living Dolls too.
@LionWriter1012
@LionWriter1012 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe this video just keeps going! I really consider myself a tv encyclopedia, but I guess these don’t count as actual TV shows, just individual episodes that were quickly forgotten.
@kevinsteele8902
@kevinsteele8902 2 жыл бұрын
here's the thing about Fran Drescher - she's had a much longer career than you reported. She was in the classic 70s movie, "Saturday Night Fever" and later she had a minor role in "Ragtime".
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 Жыл бұрын
she had consistent work as well, her credits are across the board and acting in every years of the 80s and 90s making her a prolific actress
@queenannsrevenge100
@queenannsrevenge100 Жыл бұрын
She was in Weird Al’s movie “UHF” too, as I recall?
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 Жыл бұрын
@@queenannsrevenge100 she was the station’s secretary/ wannabe reporter…
@proceedwithcaution1846
@proceedwithcaution1846 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching 'Living Dolls' once. Just once and only once. Never knew the show was related to 'Who's the Boss?' I remember the Halle Berry character as being absolutely stunning! That would be all that I could tell you about Living Dolls. Vivica Fox is very beautiful as well and could have done well in the role as the token Black girl but I do remember the 80s very well.
@Whitechapelchap
@Whitechapelchap 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Living Dolls, too. I thought so many of these pop up shows were interesting.
@djxcel23
@djxcel23 2 жыл бұрын
Living dolls is on youtube
@1Channel1
@1Channel1 2 жыл бұрын
"Token"??? aren't you charming!
@bethanychatman9531
@bethanychatman9531 Жыл бұрын
Wow what shit back handed last comment.
@that70space
@that70space 2 жыл бұрын
gentlemen, you are master craftsmen at delivering this content. i lived through this and never knew about these pilots. thank you and very well done.
@Drew791
@Drew791 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! So glad I subbed. Been waiting for another spinoff episode!
@atomicabe
@atomicabe 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad too. More spinoff videos coming soon.
@Drew791
@Drew791 2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe the darkness of Punky Brewster was my favorite, and the female narrator had perfect comedic timing and delivery. Would love it if another style video came out that highlighted some of the other unnoticed or unquestioned oddness of sitcoms.
@asnallar
@asnallar Жыл бұрын
The show could have explained it like Alyssa Milano’s character Sam had a dream that she went to New York to interview models, and it actually happened in the real Living Dolls spin-off. Or maybe she had a premonition and became clairvoyant like Phoebe Halliwell.
@MrHootiedean
@MrHootiedean 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I actually remember all these backdoor pilots, but I loved Who's the Boss so I guess that's not too big a surprise. I keep getting Living Dolls and Models Inc.confused. And there were a lot of failed shows set in hotels in the late 70s and early 80s: Checking In (the spin off of The Jeffersons), and 2 American remakes of Fawlty Towers, one called Snavely with Betty White and the other called Amanda's By the Sea starring Bea Arthur. I also remember a show in a hotel with Dan Fielding from Night Court. I've never seen Fawlty Towers but I hear it's a classic. Great episode, I haven't thought about these spin offs since they aired!
@atomicabe
@atomicabe 2 жыл бұрын
The John Laroquette one was titled PAYNE and it was also a FAWLTY TOWERS adaptation. Thanks for watching!
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 Жыл бұрын
TV history is one of my favourite things, thank you for making this, I enjoyed it immensely! Well presented, too, I'd listen to you narrate an audiobook any day of the week
@georgewang2947
@georgewang2947 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve an Emmy for the "Nandela effect" line
@joey_dangerously
@joey_dangerously 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like some of your biggest videos are about Black shows. I suggest making some more of those. The Cosby show had some failed backdoor pilots. I remember the John Ritter one vividly. Sanford and Son had a few also.
@selenaphillips6971
@selenaphillips6971 2 жыл бұрын
Sanford and Son had two: Grady and Sanford Arm; Then there was reboot of Sanford without Lemont, Donna, and Esther.
@JohnNotstamos
@JohnNotstamos 2 жыл бұрын
Last year I listened to an interview with Halle Berry talking about the Living Dolls show. She said that even though it was a great opportunity, she was really the Token Black girl. Sort've the one who just reacted to what the other white characters were saying or just the one stating stuff for the story like "c'mon guys, we gotta get to this place on time" or whatever. It's ironic that the one who didn't really get to do anything became the biggest name out of the cast. Same with Vivica A. Fox
@lucasbachmann
@lucasbachmann 2 жыл бұрын
suddenly all the disjointed puzzle pieces of my childhood have come together with this new information.
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg 2 жыл бұрын
Both Halle Berry and Vivica A. Fox are awesome. It's a shame that the Living Dolls spin-off couldn't incorporate them both, but, on balance, I think the sweeter, more wholesome Berry was a marginally better match for the brainy Emily over Fox, although both were good fits for the part (and kudos to the show for making the 'token' Black model the super-smart one!), and Fox looked great during the exercise scene, in her green and black lycra leotard, in the Who's the Boss episode. However, it's a massive shame that they replaced the stunningly beautiful Melissa Willis (who had the quintessential big, hair-sprayed late 80s/early 90s blonde look). She was superb in the Who's the Boss episode as the token bitchy bimbo model, and she'd have made an ideal contrast to Halle Berry, had the two shared the screen in the spin-off series. The red-haired Deborah Tucker was an odd choice for a replacement, since her auburn locks weren't a sufficient contrast to the two brunette hold-overs from the original episode, Alison Elliott and Leah Remini. It appears this was Melissa Willis' only acting credit, so maybe she simply didn't want to return, but it's a shame, since I personally think that she and Vivica A. Fox made a much bigger impression than their co-stars, Elliott and Remini, the two 'models' who did return (and, as an aside, surely Remini was too short and unconventional looking to play a big-shot model, and in view of what a handful her character was, I don't know why Michael Learned's modelling agent even bothered with her to begin with, unless she was treating the school-of-hard-knocks girl as some sort of charity case).
@sahej6939
@sahej6939 2 жыл бұрын
Remini was my fav and the point of her was that she was unconventional!
@hotgritz4sho
@hotgritz4sho 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was VERY informative. I remember Michael Learned replaced the late Jeanne Cooper on “The Young and the Restless” as Genoa City’s alcoholic socialite Mrs. Chancellor and longtime fans were outraged. They hated the switch, even tho it was temporary.
@proceedwithcaution1846
@proceedwithcaution1846 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember Michael Learned being in anything except The Walton's as the wholesome, unpretentious, steadfast Olivia Walton.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 Жыл бұрын
@@proceedwithcaution1846 Well, you are now.
@jefflong1799
@jefflong1799 Жыл бұрын
MY GOD! SOO much trivia I never knew.. FUN!
@julieporter7805
@julieporter7805 2 жыл бұрын
Facts of Life had several backdoor pilots as well. One about Tootie's aunt and uncle who were an interracial couple, another one about Jo's cousins, another about the boy's academy, another about Natalie and her new roommates who were similar to the Friends gang, and the final episode was a back door pilot for Blair running Eastland I remember watching Living Dolls. I think I liked it at the time but I remember TV Guide calling them out on the eating disorder jokes and yeah I remember there were too many of them. Also considering that it was not too long after Karen Carpenter's death and eating disorders were far from unheard of looking back they were very much below the belt and inappropriate.
@usagifelton
@usagifelton 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see that covered.
@MsShavonnLee
@MsShavonnLee 2 жыл бұрын
There was actually another one. Mona was supposed to get her own show with her brother and the hotel. They thought James CoCo would've been able to fulfill the role of a biological relative on the show in her absence, but he passed away. Katherine Hellmond discusses it in one of those interviews.
@QueenKunta
@QueenKunta Жыл бұрын
8:44 the “Fran”-dela Effect was right there!
@TheYoungDoctor
@TheYoungDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
2:10 Katherine Helmond actually made a appearance in a season four episode of The Upper Hand called Tunnel of Love playing Madame Alexandra.
@ronaldiniego7334
@ronaldiniego7334 2 жыл бұрын
"Life's a Ditch" is interesting since it reboots the backdoor pilot and actually a better one because it adds some backstory and context to the characters instead of casually mentioned connections in the original. Melissa Willis is 1980s babe perfection though. Charmed Lives seems like it could have worked as a series, at least it would have charming leads.
@msrain1235
@msrain1235 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Living Dolls! Wish that it would have lasted longer. I remember the Donna Dixon and Fran Drescher episode, but I never knew that it was supposed to be a spinoff. I vaguely remember Mona's episode.
@zmbdog
@zmbdog 15 күн бұрын
There are a lot of newspaper blurbs in early '86 about "Charmed Lives" being a potential series but they taper off by May. On Jun 15 a reader of The Atlanta Constitution asks about the show in a Q&A column and the reporter says that the WTB episode was a "testing of the waters" and that ABC was "unimpressed" in the end (not sure if they mean unimpressed by the resulting _show_ or just with the response to the WTB episode). They conclude that chances were slim that the series would be picked up. The show is never even mentioned again beyond this date, in articles or the TV listings, so it definitely never aired.
@christiancoates609
@christiancoates609 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you have the had the Community reference. That's where my brain went.
@lance134679
@lance134679 2 жыл бұрын
I recently binged Who's the Boss and remember these backdoor pilots quite well. They're so jarring, you can't help but remember them. Thanks!
@batwingism
@batwingism 2 жыл бұрын
These are excellent!
@tonyfelder1206
@tonyfelder1206 2 жыл бұрын
Sometime during the 80's there was also a hotel based spin off series from The Jeffersons staring Marla Gibbs' called Checking In. Her character Florence was the manager of a hotel. It died a quick death. Producers really had a mad love for hotels. There was a successful movie based drama series on ABC called Hotel.
@catherineerwin8269
@catherineerwin8269 2 жыл бұрын
And Marla Gibbs character Florence Johnston, had a boss that she disagreed with. And he was played by Larry Linville (Frank Burns) from M.A.S.H.
@SuperMarioBrosIII
@SuperMarioBrosIII 2 жыл бұрын
@@catherineerwin8269 Shirley from What's Happening also had a failed spinoff titled One In A Million as a taxi driver. 🙄🤗📺🚗
@proceedwithcaution1846
@proceedwithcaution1846 2 жыл бұрын
Not a Spin Off but The Jamie Foxx show was set in a hotel. The Hotel setting would appear to be fertile ground for plot possibilities with guests checking in and out. I get it.
@c-x-1
@c-x-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@proceedwithcaution1846 This is the comment I was looking for. Jamie's show lasted four seasons on the WB network. It still plays in reruns today.
@arthurj.downeyjr_2013
@arthurj.downeyjr_2013 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@professorh7024
@professorh7024 2 жыл бұрын
This is so nostalgic ☺️🤗. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. 💜
@bacanalb
@bacanalb Жыл бұрын
This by far is one of my favorite videos! Amazing job!
@atomicabe
@atomicabe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it.
@blackamerican40
@blackamerican40 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Katherine 🙏
@dutchgijoe
@dutchgijoe Жыл бұрын
Altough I did know the show was setting up for spinoffs back then, but as a teenager growing up in the eighties and nineties I do remember the episode Living dolls. Watching Who’s the boss? was primarily for Alyssa Milano and got to meet her at German Comic Con last year with a photo op. ❤ I can’t wait for the sequel of the show.
@jeffreyzain
@jeffreyzain 2 жыл бұрын
TRIVIA: FRAN DRESCHER’S FIRST ROLE WAS WITH LINDA BLAIR -YUP THAT HEAD TURNING GIRL- IN A MADE FOR TV HORROR SUMMER OF FEAR IN THE 1970S 🔥🔥🔥
@Clipeuh
@Clipeuh 2 жыл бұрын
love these videos
@RP.123
@RP.123 2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing for me about Who’s the Boss is I remember every person by their real name and character name but I cannot remember one single episode that stood out.
@aconater
@aconater 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Living Dolls it’s a trip that Halle Berry replaced Vivica A Fox and I thought Leah Remini was adorable!!
@Whyteroze28
@Whyteroze28 Жыл бұрын
Its funny that you mention David Moscow being in Newsies, because the boy who played Mona's brother in the flashback was also in Newsies! That's Gabriel Damon, who played Spot Conlon!
@mayloo2137
@mayloo2137 2 жыл бұрын
The Mona spinoff in a hotel setting reminds me The Bob Newhart Show where he ran an inn.
@rgncajun21
@rgncajun21 2 жыл бұрын
These are pretty much tv history! Love it
@lafemmecachee
@lafemmecachee 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the Fran Drescher episode but had no idea it was supposed to be a spin-off. Never saw the Mona spin-off. (That looks weird enough that I would have remembered.) I watched Living Dolls and think I even liked it. In the ‘90s, Models Inc. seemed like a darker version of it and also, short-lived.
@samuelosler1994
@samuelosler1994 Жыл бұрын
Models Inc was a nighttime soap that was a spin off of Melrose Place which was a spinoff of 90210, Grant Show played the same character Jake Hanson on all three shows as they exist in the same universe
@markjacobs3337
@markjacobs3337 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It was very informative. Fran was also in the movie UHF with Weird Al Yankovic
@proceedwithcaution1846
@proceedwithcaution1846 2 жыл бұрын
As was Michael Richards, Kramer from Seinfeld.
@alwaysfallingshort
@alwaysfallingshort Жыл бұрын
As a kid I simply could not believe Who's The Boss was ever going to end.
@loboneiner1034
@loboneiner1034 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised Who's the Boss hasn't hit streaming. I've seen 2 seasons were on crackle but not the full series.
@alyciamariecomic
@alyciamariecomic 2 жыл бұрын
It's on freee which use to be imbd
@VidWatcher01
@VidWatcher01 2 жыл бұрын
"Dan Aykroyd pimp comedy" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That is the perfect description for Dr. Detroit, one if my fav movies from the 80s. Charmed Life was almost the Sam & Cat of it's day!😂
@demetriusdillard2863
@demetriusdillard2863 9 ай бұрын
I may not be an avid "Who's The Boss?" aficionado, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching this highly entertaining video detailing the stories of both the aborted "Charmed Lives" and "Mona" spinoffs, as well as learning the sad but still intriguing truth behind the history of the spinoff that ultimately did come to fruition in the autumn of 1989, the short-lived "Living Dolls." Thanks for sharing, and keep up the good work.
@VahanNisanian
@VahanNisanian 8 ай бұрын
According to the US Copyright Office, "Charmed Lives" is listed as being published on May 6, 1986, while "The Anniversary Show" is listed as being published on May 13, 1986. I wonder if Season 2 was originally supposed to conclude with "The Anniversary Show", before it was switched around.
@Djarra
@Djarra 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently ‘Charmed Lives’ aired in the UK between seasons 1&2 of ‘The Nanny’ when there was a contractual delay for Season 2. Although I don’t remember this.
@Mars-qx7mq
@Mars-qx7mq 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, I am an 80's kid and didn't know there was a Team Steam Exercise series. Now I feel I missed out.
@AmandaNOTMandy
@AmandaNOTMandy Жыл бұрын
This video popped up in my recommendations today... I'm really glad that it did... because... even though I've only seen this one video so far... I will be binging your videos until I can't keep my eyes open anymore... actually you know what? Who needs sleep? So unnecessary😂! Anyway...hello from your new subscriber¡ 👋
@atomicabe
@atomicabe Жыл бұрын
hello! thanks for the great feedback. Very glad to hear the videos are to your liking.
@laurieford6373
@laurieford6373 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for upload - enjoyed this.
@tempolost
@tempolost 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Danza starred in "The Hollywood Knights" in 1980 with Fran Drescher.. It's kind of an American Graffiti rip-off but it's not too bad
@mrsheatherteske
@mrsheatherteske 2 жыл бұрын
A Who's the boss interview with producers didn't state that "Mona" the TV show didn't fly because they were scared that WTB would be Cancelled, I think they said that it was because it just wasn't won over...but then again, in a Katherine Helmond interview she mentioned how if she left it would have changed things for WTB and messed with the triangle they had 🤷 so not sure. But Katherine definitely deserved her own show
@DNBursky
@DNBursky Жыл бұрын
The character of Charlie played by Leah Remini seemed to at first be like how "Jo" was on the Facts of Life when she started in 1980. Tough girl from a NYC borough living with a bunch of three other girls that are very different from her, ohh and yes, one of the girls is black. Sound familiar? Facts of Life also had a bunch of backdoor pilots :)
@jeremyallennossette6426
@jeremyallennossette6426 2 жыл бұрын
I remember "Mona" going to New York, I remember watching "Living Dolls" I remember Fran Drescher as the designer but I don't remember that first spin off "Charmed Something" at all. I don't even think I remember that episode 😂😬
@SirChubbyBunny
@SirChubbyBunny 8 ай бұрын
I love having only vague memories of sitcoms because learning about offbeat stuff like this makes my day. Leah Remini and Vivica A Fox in one show? Sign me up!
@sweetmother2406
@sweetmother2406 2 жыл бұрын
I did have Teen Steam and I remember being SO excited for Living Dolls, tho I don’t remember much about watching it
@chadsmith5551
@chadsmith5551 2 жыл бұрын
I barely remember Living Dolls. David Moscow, who played the son, had been the boy in Big from the previous year. After the first episode my parents decided the show was "too adult" for me (I was 14), so we didn't was it again.
@Laceykat66
@Laceykat66 2 жыл бұрын
What gets me is the spinoffs that did not get picked up Vs the incredibly bad shows the networks decided to go with instead. Great job as usual, though you DID forget to mention Fawlty Towers in your "hotel-themed shows." You can't mention them all, but you HAVE to mention THAT one. 😁😁😁😁
@CaptainSpalding72
@CaptainSpalding72 Жыл бұрын
These shows were awful too....lol
@garypesci746
@garypesci746 Жыл бұрын
There was also a very short-lived Bea Arthur show from 1983 called "Amanda's", which was based on Fawlty Towers.
@marycanary
@marycanary 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong but the actress who played sam’s street wise friend,didn’t she play the roll of the owner’s daughter in the “saved by the bell"mini series were Lisa Turtles parents (who are members)get the whole gang summer jobs at the beach club or did someone else play that roll?
@markjacobs3337
@markjacobs3337 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember her from Saved By the Bell
@mrsheatherteske
@mrsheatherteske 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, she was in that show too. I forgot about that ☺️
@marycanary
@marycanary 2 жыл бұрын
Thought so
@randy5880
@randy5880 2 жыл бұрын
These are so good! Thanks
@TheJustUsLeague
@TheJustUsLeague Жыл бұрын
The premise for the spinoff 'Mona' was also used for the premise of 'The Jamie Foxx Show'
@1Channel1
@1Channel1 Жыл бұрын
It was also STOLEN and plagiarized by Golden Palace (Golden Girls spinioff)
@amandaredd3057
@amandaredd3057 2 жыл бұрын
Donna Dixon is bestie's with Fran Drescher in real life! I love Fran and I love The Nanny ❤
@lobo667-z1e
@lobo667-z1e 2 жыл бұрын
Wow never knew about all these spinoff show. To see see Halle Berry and Vivica Fox and Don Cheadle on sitcoms amazing 👏
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 Жыл бұрын
I think they're doing television movies and mini-series of the week, I believe.
@thomaswaller1943
@thomaswaller1943 2 жыл бұрын
I found it hilarious that we delve into that one episode of Community to discuss Who's The Boss. Ahbed is right, Angela was the boss
@scottsears879
@scottsears879 2 жыл бұрын
'80sitcoms are way better than anything that's ever come around in this damn millennium
@Launchpad05
@Launchpad05 11 ай бұрын
Or videos like this.
@kippaseo8027
@kippaseo8027 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Beatrice Arthur pre golden girls did a show called Amanda by the sea which also revolved around a old hotel
@atomicabe
@atomicabe Жыл бұрын
Right -- and that was one of three attempts to do an American version of the British sitcom FAWLTY TOWERS. (The others starred Harvey Korman and John Laroquette)
@GeoffBosco
@GeoffBosco 2 жыл бұрын
0:51 WTF!? Was that an early Dan Schneider production?
@behrwillsonn4842
@behrwillsonn4842 Жыл бұрын
NORMAN LEAR IS STILL ALIVE?!?!?!?!??!?!?! The guy has to be 100 years old.
@justinwilliams426
@justinwilliams426 Жыл бұрын
Just looked it up and you were right one the money. He is 100 years old
@CHAM0RRITO
@CHAM0RRITO 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Danza and Fran Drescher appeared in the same movie, The Hollywood Knights
@moorebounce
@moorebounce 2 жыл бұрын
And all this time I thought Vivica Fox and Halle Berry started out in movies. I watched Who's the best a couple times. I remember Fran Drescher getting a TV show after Dr. Detroit. That's crazy how they kept using the very same plots in different shows.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 Жыл бұрын
Doctor Detroit opens in theaters on August 5, 1983. It was distributed by Universal-International and StudioCanal. The film was a so-so success, not great nor terrible, despite everything else. As of March 1992, the film has went on to became an cult classic.
@chimpinaneckbrace
@chimpinaneckbrace 2 жыл бұрын
They should have made a Bobbi Flekman series called Hostess with the Mostess.
@georgfriedrichhandel4390
@georgfriedrichhandel4390 2 жыл бұрын
I looked up the 1986 Fall Schedule on Wikipedia and there is no mention of Charmed Life. So it most likely never aired.
@ValleyFreshBuskers
@ValleyFreshBuskers 2 жыл бұрын
great review
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