Comprehensive Submarine Guide (And Fighting them) in World of Warships

Welcome to my first Feature Length ship guide video, featuring none other than everyone's favorite class!
I have tailor made the pacing to follow my usual How-to's so hopefully it won't be stale, since I'm omitting attempts on filler jokes so I can cut down duration (Yes it would've become an hour long if I made it the normal way)
• Why Submarine? Because they are staying, yet no one seems interested to cover them.
• Why an hour long video? So I would only have to do this once for the entire class.
• Video is too long! Watch it in 2.0x speed and it would still be digestible ))
Update: I made an update video that covers all the submarine changes since this video released, link to the video: • Comprehensive UPDATE t...
Timestamps/Chapters and Subtitles are available!
Thanks to:
• HarunaKaiNi & foggingweeb for helping out in training room.
• HarunaKaiNi for the Alliance plane spotting footage.
• CoffeeDance, Sorni, Alcatraz-NC, ReiYukihyo, Orion, Giraffe Of Wisdom, & dangerzone922 for providing feedbacks
Data sources:
• World of Warships Wiki
• Shiptool.st
• WoWS Shipbuilder
Additional Information:
• Submarine spawn location : gyazo.com/collections/a91819d...
(Credit to ttaro_)
• Submarine Minimap Ping Locator : github.com/AndrewTaro/Minimap...
(Also from ttaro_)
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Timestamps
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00:00 Opening
01:05 Introductions
01:58 Depth & Concealment
03:03 Underwater Maneuvering
04:11 Dive Capacity
05:24 Consumables
06:17 Hydrophones
07:46 Submarine Surveillance
08:45 Taking Damage
11:50 Fuel Leak
12:49 Sonar & Homing Torpedoes
16:12 Normal Torpedoes
17:19 Submarine Skills
19:03 Submarine Upgrades
19:34 Tech Tree Subs Overview
20:46 General Playstyle & Tactics
26:32 Using Homing Torpedoes
30:37 Shotgunning
32:47 Damage Control Usage
34:06 Submarine vs. Submarine
37:22 Submarine Builds
39:49 General Response
43:12 Depth Charge Usage
45:32 Spotting Submarines
47:37 Avoiding Homing Torpedoes
51:06 What About Shotguns?
52:32 Identifying Good & Bad Players
53:27 Closing Words & My Suggestions
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[@Yurobeat]

04/01/'24 - New video covering all the submarine updates has been released ========= This comment will be pinned for things not covered in the video, either superficial things, things I forgot, and possible future updates related to submarines. 10/13 (Video release) • Hydrophones does not go through island • Submarines cannot detonate • 2:17 - For clarification purposes, Submarine on Periscope spots enemy surface ships based on their air detection value (Like how Planes spot ships) • 54:34 - Another clarification, the theoretical "Radar Spotting in" indicator would appear if a Radar IS active • Added Submarine Spawn location (Credit to TTaro_ check video description) • Added Submarine Minimap Ping Locator Mod (Credit to TTaro_ check video description) 10/14 • @dzello pointed out that submarine splash damage hitbox comes from the shells, not the submarine. • 25:54 shows airstrike ASW shatters when landing on submarine's hulll. This is patched, now it will immediately blow up like HE and deal full damage. 12/13 • Super Submarines are announced on RU Server. 12/15 • Proposed changes to submarines are announced on WG stream. • Main topic is addressing Shotgunning. New planned torpedo mechanic (for submarines) will be dynamic speed and damage. Torpedoes will have slow speed & damage when it launches, then gradually gained speed & damage to their normal values. This is to make Shotgunning less effective and less exploitative, but not impossible to do. • Another proposed change to Hydrophone, they will have shorter duration (6s). The purpose is to make it more as a defensive tool and not something to be used to line up shotguns. • Heavy cruisers will all get plane ASW (except Dutch) • Some surface ships will get Submarine Surveillance consumable • Submarines will get maneuverability buffs • Possible updates to signal, upgrades, and submarine skills later down the line Full proposed changes here: worldofwarships.com/en/news/general-news/upcoming-changes-to-aircraft-carriers-and-submarines/ Side note: • U4501 has been released and its the first submarine that features Repair Party. • Also on U4501, its the only German submarine with 15s DCP. • I-54 on the Russian server will be the first Hybrid submarine. Protip: Watch in 2x speed.

[@HarunaKaiNi]

Misc. Info: • U-4501 repair party can only be used on the surface level and cannot be used on periscope or deeper • The U-4501 only have homing torpedoes, similar to British submarines • Alliance's slow torpedoes is an advantage on its own, so don't bother getting torpedo tubes modification 1 on the third upgrade slot as it would weaken the homing capability of its torpedo

[@stalinexpress]

Whats next a cv with a super heal or a brawling cv or a super richthofen with the fastest planes in the game

[@Derin7890]

​@@stalinexpressHelicarrier from Avengers 1

[@Ducky1760]

Would you do a video like this but for Carriers?

[@mq5190]

U-4501 also has a battery recharge of 2.20 units per seconds.

[@dzello]

8:50 The submarine doesn't have a splash hitbox, it's the shells that have a splash hitbox. Just like HE shells have blast radius, all shells have a submarine blast radius.

[@Yurobeat]

I see, so its the shells that carries the splash hitbox and deal damage if it contacts the sub. Thanks for the info ))

[@dzello]

@@Yurobeat Yes, notably the hitbox increases in size if the ship runs Demolition Expert. The size is also different between shells.

[@danh7411]

Different HE shells have different blast radius too, like Thunderer HE has the biggest blast radius.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Yuro has blessed us with a super thorough guide, and even though I play low tiers, I still appreciate this for the content value. Watched through the whole thing and very much enjoyed it

[@andrzejbednarczyk2501]

Amazingly informative vid, no doubt a ton of work put into this. Greatly appreciated, will help me a lot when playing against subs.

[@Con9359]

1 hour ebola tutorial... Interesting data for sure.

[@user-re2kk3zk4e]

Don't get why Yuro make 1 hour guide if the game deletes in 1 min.

[@mertcandenli3313]

I didnt know hydrophone mechanic in subs and I have 60% Wr at cachalot

[@PhantomSnipera]

The choice in music made this so much easier to watch/listen. Clever tricks I can't be annoyed if the music is good and upbeat. Seriously fantastic information that could help a lot of people if they bother to watch

[@thexlonewolf671]

The thing to remember about sonar is that it is a highly situational tool. While it can guarantee you hit a target, using it is basically the equivalent of shining a flashlight into a dark room. Sure, you may see what you’re trying to hit, but everyone else will be able to see you. The best way to use sonar in this game, to borrow a quote from hunt for Red October, is “one ping only, Vasily.”

[@nlb137]

I've said the same thing about hydrophone breaking the 'information balance' on spotting. I think that the discrepancy between periscope and surface spotting could use work as well. Overall subs can spot you multiple different ways, but the only thing you learn is "spotted" and sometimes not even that, while every other class gives far more information when it spots you. RPF gives a "you've been RPF'd" indicator, and so should hydrophone. And you should get a different spotted indicator from a periscope depth sub than from surface spotting, just like plane spotting (or hydro/radar with mods). If ship-based depth charges cleared pings in an area (or even if the 'line' from the torp to the target was through the splash), things would be a little more balanced; ships with surface DCs would be the more defensive version. And DDs could defend their allies even if they can't push the sub by dropping DCs to disrupt homing. Might have to increase ping cooldown so it can't be instantly reapplied... but that'd probably be good for balance anyway.

[@Yurobeat]

That's actually a good idea. Negating Sonar pings by dropping ASW. Like dropping chaff to avoid heat seeking missile. I mean ASW were free to use already anyway, so why not implement them as defensive measure. I hope WG took note of this (doubt) it will atleast give DD/Cruisers more chance at dodging.

[@werrkowalski2985]

@@Yurobeat You meant flares, not chaff.

[@StarkRaven59]

@@werrkowalski2985 Chaff works on radar guided missiles, it's close enough to excuse.

[@wack6692]

@@StarkRaven59chaff doesn’t even work on fox 1s it’s the radar itself not missile

[@witoldgabara513]

"Kills faster,more humane" this is Peacefull Nobel prize of 2023

[@OriginalXVeris]

For the Hydrophone, the bare minimum WG could do to notify players that are within range of it is the "Located" thing you get when in range of a ship with the Radio Locator perk.

[@dzello]

Then it would be stupid for submarines to use it.

[@Yurobeat]

@@dzello Which is great because it gives the submarine a choice IMO.

[@dzello]

@@Yurobeat There'd be no choice, it would be dumb to use it. Stealth is superior so you'd stay hidden to spot. Same scenario, just reversed.

[@play030]

@@dzello Yes, it would be stupid.

[@p_serdiuk]

That's too wildly "unrealistic" tho, I mean I literally cannot think of _any_ deus ex machina gizmo that would alert me to being listened to even in the modern world.

[@mcbrite]

Amazing vid! Only thing you missed: You should also periscope or even dive, if the enemy CV's squadron is about to spot you... Especially in the beginning of the game that can reveal your vector/plan and screw up your ENTIRE round from then on! - Resurface as soon as possible to refill the the battery to 100% before main engagement begins...

[@Yurobeat]

I have addressed this at 47:22 , though briefly. Either you missed it, or it should've been something I put submarine tactics segments kek

[@mcbrite]

@@Yurobeat Oh yeah! Still, main takeaway: Amazing video!

[@YurraSickPark]

Note for torpedo homing: they have a fixed turn rate of 2.5° per second for a single pinged torp, and 5° per second for a double pinged torp. Also, the torpedo homes in on the side of the ship closest to the torpedo, not the middle of the pinged section, which enables you to abuse it while dodging.

[@CorsairCombat13]

I dont know what other topics require this much depth but I did like this longer style of video as more diversity to the content. Amazing video

[@gregcavender7798]

One of the best tutorials I've ever seen. Watched it all the way thru and will watch many parts again, I'm sure.

[@majnjord]

Great job on the video - informative and still entertaining! Absolutely no issue with the length and skipping on jokes, and I'd gladly see more of these one-stop guides. Haven't played a single sub game yet but will probably have to try now, thanks to your guide. :)

[@kermutschannel1284]

You didn't really mention it, but it can be fun at the beginning of a match to go to submerged depth, pop hydrophone, and ping the red sub at periscope depth. Easy way to force them to use a DCP and it doesn't usually result in you taking a ASW strike

[@Yurobeat]

I occasionally do this when I have gut feeling that enemy sub is a dumbo. Bonus point if he didn't do it and died to homing torp ))

[@henryherold4515]

Thank you so much. I've been struggling on both sides of submarines, so this is exactly what I needed.

[@moso9420]

Thanks, Yuro! I am guiding my friend to play WOWS recently, I have trouble understanding sub mechanics even I have been a 7-yr-player. You have helped me a lot. Salute!

[@chronoserpent]

Great guide Yuro, both for submarines and how to counter them. I'm starting to play them to understand them better and this helps a lot.

[@cagangurer]

Thank you for this unbelieavably helpful video! Simply amazing

[@foxykaruptsock3213]

great guide , I enjoyed it so much I didnt even notice it was nearly an hour long....well done !

[@ngnear50]

Would love more guides from you! This was really informative

[@bollwerk7683]

Thanks for the great Video. Watched it entirely. Many great things to learn here. Keep growing!

[@gordongekko4752]

As always. The best shorts, how to play, guides and plays of any KZbin World of Warships influencer!

[@baymax1126]

I learned how to play Atago on your channel. It became my go to in t8 ranks and if I just want to have fun. from having 48%WR with Atago, Now I sit on 58% WR. And now I can say, after watching this, I doing decent with subs and starting to see the end of battles. THANK YOU!

[@alphax4785]

Great in depth guide, I'll second the motion that the music really helps in keeping it from being too dry but also doesn't become ear bleeding.

[@nikolarajcetic2040]

Very interesting and helpful video, thanks Yuro!

[@debbaasseerr]

Watched because Yuro is always informative and entertaining, but I'm glad I went and watched through the entire thing. Up to this point my attitude was to hold off on getting any subs until acquiring most everything else in the game. After seeing the full breakdown, I'm interested in trying them, both to better understand countering them and to just try them out. So Thanks!

[@BigTLord01]

Best guide video by far. Definitely learned some things from this which should be helpful

[@kotsiosx7945]

Watched it twice. Very informative and entertaining at the same time Well done buddy and thank you

[@michaelbizon444]

Kick ass sub guide! Thank you Buddy!

[@StarkRaven59]

Thanks for taking the time to explain the new Cold Waters update.

[@richarddyson4380]

Great video Yuro! Not too long for me, as I took your suggestion to take a break and had dinner 🙂. I really enjoyed the breadth and depth of your analysis, as I have avoided playing these boats (same for CVs). Having a better understanding of their mechanics, strengths and weaknesses without having to play them was wonderful. As always, thank you for putting in the effort to produce such a quality and entertaining video.

[@straswa]

Great vid Yuro, I learned alot; please do another guide like this. Now I'm tempted to give submarines a chance. Also I now have a better idea how to counter submarines in my Trento.

[@jarrelsixtytwo3993]

Wow - I stopped playing WOWS for years due to subs and I just learned more in the first 12 minutes of this video than I knew previously! I'll return again to complete more segments of this video!

[@JamesRicho]

So thorough - and learned a lot - thanks Yuro

[@pedrolft9010]

thank you for such a complete guide

[@banditoo7]

Fantastic. Very helpful. Thanks for your effort.

[@Mr_Secondaries]

Excellent guide on submarines for wows!

[@lame_o_nade]

We need an entire series of these covering all ship classes

[@deadlynadder2235]

Thank you for this Yuro, I really enjoyed it, and will play subs now!

[@mrtspence]

This was unbelievably informative and useful. Incredibly well-made. They should link to these in the game itself as an official resource. Thanks so much!

[@doingrandomstuff69]

comparing a CV with a "Schneidebrett" is great, love you work Yuro

[@somethingincurrentyear]

Really nice video, love this type of content.

[@Jargolf86]

Thank you very much @Yurobeat for this Excellent Guide! As a Player since early Access Beta, Surface Ships are no Mystery to me, but U-Boats were UFOs. I am sure i understand these now much much better! =)

[@emptywhite1623]

Now I need this guide for the other classes, hopefully this will become a series

[@RightOnTarget1]

Excellent, excellent video! Thanks!

[@Godl1ked]

Gentlemen. Been away for 4 years, I have. Imagine my joy seeing this channel full packed with new videos. AAAaaaaaaaaAAAAAAaaaaa.

[@littletommy4250]

Thanks for the video Yuro i watched the whole video i have start playing submarine few years back until the update 0.11.9 when T6-T8 US and german subs was here to stay so i became a sub main and a little bit of Battleships too i enjoy the Yamato and the Hannover but my most enjoyed subs will be the U-2501, U-4501, I-56 and S-189 because that cheeky breeky russian sub was the most difficult to deal with at the update of 0.11.9 and the fastest sub at it's time being at that update! so i found this video to be very helpful for me as a sub veteran :3 keep up your good work Yuro. much love from Finland!

[@Capt_Mortis]

Nice to know some tricks against them now. And got some knowledge to try them in the future again. But in the end i will stick to my BBs, CAs, and CVs. Good vid.👍

[@schinbone0]

Great video!! You need to do more of these for the different classes/ships. Fantastic.

[@stevemc01]

When I first got the shell-swapper skill, I thought it was a useful little perk to have for Montana. ...after subs were added, it was my last lifeline. And holy hell does it help.

[@rakura]

This was so helpful, thank you watched the whole thing.

[@SrtLach]

Thanks for the guide. Te quiero mucho Yuro🌟

[@Fumoffu78]

Thx 4 this guide! It is very good and informative.

[@chaoschaos-oy7qo]

I almost always skip tts videos after about 30 seconds, watched all of this though, excellent work dude 👏 👌 .

[@TheGiggityG]

Subscribed. 1st video and l have to watch it twice. Well done!2x would drive me to drink.

[@helsreach8954]

YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH I NEED THIS

[@legatusalpina7081]

i don't care what is about the video; one hour video from yuro ? i'm diving in ! thank you for your work/time and the quality of it. What a day, i appreciate. Thank you o7

[@herrhaber9076]

Very good guide. Unsurprisingly KZbin's other suggestions are PQ videos. This one is as good as his old content. Thank you for that Yuro :)

[@KGBterminator333333]

Thank you for this great tutorial my good sir.

[@RightOnTarget1]

Excellent video. Thank you!!

[@Kami-sama.isekai]

Great content Yuro!

[@elbirri]

can't believe i saw all, 1 hr viewed this info is gold enough to say the devs must put this in the game. thx a lot

[@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499]

Very informative! Thanks.

[@mdtaseen8781]

gets suggested by a friend to watch a part of this video.* starts to watch this video at 2 am* bursts in to laughter* end up watching the full video* instantly liked and subscribed after finishing the video*

[@reallightfield5314]

Very helpful vid, would appreciate further vids like this

[@Taorakis]

Thank you for the great guide!

[@JGG3345]

Great video and very fuuny!

[@KapitanPoop]

BRAVO! one stop for everything u need to know!

[@jjcastleberry3662]

Thank you for this informative video. I also created print "screens" of skills and the Good/Bad players to refer too.

[@VivaMexico21]

Haha I have good attention span apparently 😂 Great video Yuro 👍🏼 very helpful I’d recommend all players new and old to watch this!

[@JuliursDarkzlu]

Nice Guide, Thank You!!

[@RickardNilsson83]

Quality video! Thanks!

[@aresonantsoul6668]

Thank you so much for this! Appreciate your effort

[@octaviusmorlock]

Thank you for the guide! I would like to note something about homing: If you give them a large lead on an enemy vessel, they'll home in better. So yes: shoot wide, and hit dead on.

[@serve_xt4298]

Shotgunning is not more popular because sitting in your face pinging is easier but every few matches you'll see someone, no matter the class, getting the fun treatement anyway. I also like the spotting part where basically says the submarines have all the advantage and chances are that your gameplay is over for most of the game cuz of it. This is a very good video, precisely why I don't like it, because teaching people how to play submarines is the last thing I need.

[@atago6603]

Best 1 hour I’ve ever had

[@polak09876543211]

Yuro my beloved uploading vid teaching me how to grief ppl more effectively.

[@freshmaze9297]

I watched the entire video and you make a lot of good points now i know what to do and not do thanks man good work on the video

[@HarunaKaiNi]

I'm a natural sub by nature This video is the call for me to play more submarines Also happy one year anniversary to subs in the game, and thank you for having me again yurpo

[@Weatherman_Ace]

Fishing for a sub foot long.

[@thelettery6]

Being a coral reef must be difficult, those torpedoes must of felt good though

[@Pipe_Avileins]

Thanks for the extense and well done guide yuro-dono, maybe i will try to put this in practice (i have the 3 tier 6 but never played them) in the near future. For ASW in DDs i personally like to deal with them in italian DDs (suported by my team sub) in mid tiers (5-7) bc a lot of them are still learning and are prone to over-extend. So you pop your exhaust smoke, hope your sub detects the enemy and beeline to him and throw a bunchload of depth charges while being undetected; if things go wrong (most of the times) and your smoke doesnt make it, you give the enemy team a 6 torp present and use your emergency speed boost to bail out to safety. Most of the times the last part will be the only one to work, but is really satisfying to destroy a sub using DDs (wich IRL were the ones to do it).

[@apizzanaut4923]

Can't stay lucky if I never was. Great video!

[@Soutakun1]

I feel asleep while watching this but turns out i have played this video for over 3 hours straight. still, this is some good guide.. 10/10 would watch it and share it with my grandchild.. if i had one

[@bjbj6002]

cheers mate i really appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me. Time now to practice what my sensai has taught me ;-)

[@bruces1g]

Excellent! Thank You!

[@Bohdisattva326]

Great video ❤

[@user-nv9dr7nt3d]

Perfect guide, thanks

[@joshuaesterkyn401]

Thank you Yuri, good info.

[@ariffetorlase9783]

i love how this video points out the biggest in-game flaw with submarines: if they want you dead, you do not truly have the tools to stop them from killing you.

[@shilombaba]

Congratulations and thanks for the effort and work put into this video. I'm part of the minority who doesn't suffer at all from 95% of subs, they are easy kills in my books, so I'm glad you try to educate the masses (Altho, unlike torps that have been spotted for an hour already, I'm sure the masses will manage to dodge a 1 hour video) AND I myself have managed to learn a thing or two.

[@kingjulian420]

Said the GK on the 1 line

[@Checklist_STT]

Great breakdown. What I would like to see for subs in the future: Removal of homing torpedoes and active ping, large damage buff to sub dumb torpedoes but add a longer activation range. Change hydro to be a minimap line of bearing + ship class (no pinpoint location) only visible to you while at periscope depth or lower.

[@Yurobeat]

This would just promotes shotgunning, not sure if the community wants that. The damage buff may even be dangerous to DDs. Hydro change can be considered, but again it has to work on either direction.

[@AverageFornaxEnjoyer]

Thanks, Yuro! My Dad came back after watching this.

[@mindclaw915]

best video on subs ive ever seen

[@YouvBeenThumped]

I love the normal Content... But getting an actual Guide is an amazing choice! If only we got a series lol

[@_Jay_Maker_]

This guide rules. Ramius would be proud.

[@Roadrider-lf3gl]

Well done, Thanks Man.

[@noahjones7986]

If radar works through mountains, hydro should spot subs at all depths

[@DvdV1337]

Wg had to do this. I learned things. Thx G

[@arshsood90]

So Diwali has come early, Yuro Uploaded today👀👀💓