Attack on Titan 4x21 Reaction

sorry this is so late, it was exporting last night and it was about to be done, my power went out and from there my laptop died, im getting it fixed, so milena had to reedit the review today and were posting now. because my laptop died we didn't have the audio for the review so we're using the camera audio which sounds worse but you'll still hear..something always has to happen while we edit aot.. anyway the full reaction is on patreon
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[@radgecs]

Grisha writing the book : "humanity has not perished outside walls" Eren: Hold my beer.

[@blackreaperkaneki9900]

"Hold my head"

[@mrfrits94]

Eren: *YET*

[@markuman01]

Only winner write the history

[@everything483]

Lol

[@yeeyeeasshaircut456]

Eren: *sending memories of the future to grisha* Grisha: humanity has not perished outside the walls *yet

[@jromero9795]

Child Erwin: "How do we know for sure there's no life outside the walls?" Eren: Let me show you

[@akiraofa]

Man imagine Erwin was here to see this

[@nelss9435]

@@akiraofa shinzou wo SASAGEYO

[@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع]

@@nelss9435 Nah he is against Eren it was confirmed

[@white-bl5os]

@@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع CONFIRMED lmao yeah he's against eren he would have killed his own people instead lol

[@ackerman9929]

@@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع confirmed by you?

[@dCa991]

I noticed how, unlike Zeke throughout the episode, Eren never calls Subjects of Ymir “Eldians” during his message, now that he knows Ymir was a slave to Eldia.

[@Eren-da-Jaeger]

You are intelligent

[@Wlof25]

But they are Eldians nontheless.

[@magoconcancer99]

@@Wlof25 Ymir wasnt, she was a Slave of Eldia but not from Eldia. They are Subjects of Ymir, fuck Eldia King.

[@killager6767]

@@magoconcancer99 Fuck the king but technically, every single subject of ymir is directly descended from both Ymir and king Fritz, so they’re just as eldian.

[@Erenyeager850]

@@killager6767 you could say ymir was a villager and fritz was eldian that makes the others eldians but they dont know the backstory so eren would actually call them from the person they came from and not the person that cursed them

[@danielsv9825]

Everyone - *wondering what's happening* Eren on the speaker - "hey folks, this is your captain speaking"

[@Eren-da-Jaeger]

Remember First Rumbling Then Tumbling Later Mumbling

[@roloherrera2002]

"this is your host Eren Jaeger, are you ready to rumble?"

[@therambler3713]

"Hey guys I'm just gonna eliminate 99% of the world's population real quick"

[@Robert_H.]

*Pre-Discussion* 0:00:00 Recap of the last episode, Eren is the Attack Titan origin for freedom 0:01:54 Eren is the last Attack Titan 0:02:54 Eren is a slave of freedom and his memories, End of Attack on Titan 0:06:21 Free Will (Sam Harris), Birds 0:08:15 Eren is the one in control, What happens to him (his head)? 0:09:42 Rumbling, Which characters will die? How does the story continue? *Reaction* 0:14:01 START 0:17:00 Opening 0:17:28 Episode continues 0:24:50 Eren transforms, Rumbling begins 0:28:57 Ending *Discussion* 0:29:32 What else will happen if Rumbling starts now? What has just happened? 0:31:00 This episode was beyond imagination 0:33:00 Founder Ymir, Releasing the pig, the tree, still remained a slave, Eldian cruelty in history 0:39:08 Her children ate her, Ending of season 2, the tree and its branches, Creation of titans from sand 0:40:25 Eren gave her a choice 0:41:45 Ymir's Character, a God who only serves her people / the royal blood like a slave 0:42:49 "From You, 2000 Years Ago" 0:43:33 Start of Rumbling, Eren the monster, How many will die? 0:46:45 The story of the next episodes, How to stop Eren? 0:48:23 Eren has always wanted to kill that which restricts his freedom, He was born like this, His dream of freedom 0:54:38 Cycle of Hate and War 1:00:02 temporary peace, Will Eren change memories? 1:01:07 How will the battle between Eren and his friends go? 1:04:00 Eren's character consists of so many layers, Isayama has a clear picture of the story in his head from the very beginning 1:09:35 Armin and Mikasa, Sea-Scene, Mikasa will kill him 1:13:25 Eren's Speech, Eren is just sadness 1:15:55 How will the Titan curse end? Who of the main characters will die? Hange? Levi? Connie? Jean? 1:18:26 Eren's Face 1:19:05 Next Episode

[@wickedimpulse5754]

Found you thanks!

[@xXxBryantxXx1]

We Love You

[@louloulisa3057]

I was looking for your comment :)

[@KeangoDLuke]

Thank you

[@AH7N9]

Legend

[@qoenntrell]

To think that for Zeke it already felt like an eternity waiting for Eren to wake up. Can you imagine the suffering Ymir had to endure in the paths, slaving away for 2000 years?

[@Comicbroe405]

Truly Aot's most tragic character.

[@Trathien-]

billions upon trillions of years at the least

[@elgoblinax8796]

@@Trathien- 36 trillion years. Some mad lad made the calculations

[@lewis0705]

@@elgoblinax8796 i feel like there isnt an actual ratio of founding time to real time. so you cant really calculate it.

[@Trathien-]

@@elgoblinax8796 with what? we havent been given any numbers

[@ollantaymedina2204]

- Milena: "This show is a competition which story is the most tragic one". - Isayama: Here, I give you a new competitor. Ymir's backstory.

[@natnael13]

She is easily the most tragic character it’s not even a competition.

[@n.chervil5832]

@@natnael13 For real, Grisha's life is heaven compared to Ymir.

[@RENX5]

@@natnael13 yeah, to spend 2000 years alone in a place where each second is like an eternity can’t get much worse

[@myawoo]

Here's AoT ending.

[@tusharsrivastava370]

Ymir broke all records of tragedy… it won’t be a stretch to say she’s the single most tragic character in all of literature and tv

[@DXDragon38]

"There's no one as trapped as Eren" Ymir: "Allow me to introduce myself"

[@windbreezetv]

Eren was trapped by ymir desire.

[@cesarrangel546]

More like "..." she has no tongue

[@Eren-da-Jaeger]

Maybe she will say: hold my sand

[@Aditya-vt3tv]

Ymir: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع]

@@cesarrangel546 i mean technically it’s healed but Yeah.

[@jassmin4751]

sashas fathers speech fits perfectly with the story, ymir was a traumatized child and the cycle just kept going

[@samuelwithers2221]

And so is Eren--only this time, Eren is *aware* of his power, and more than ready to use it

[@Oakland510]

and remember how he said 'we have to keep them out of the forest '? she was literally chasen down and 'died' in one

[@justiniansu4642]

@@Oakland510 great symbolism there

[@MarkSnowReal]

I don't know if you're familiar with the similarities between the creation of the titans in the show and Norse mythology, but Ymir, the original giant in the mythology, is supposed to be the first being ever created, and it was made from a liquid substance considered the source of all living things called the Eitr. Also, the world tree, called Yggdrasil, spreads into three branches, which originate the 9 worlds of the Norse mythology (if you played God of War you know). I think the parallels are pretty obvious by now, even the flower with the drop of blood on top (a daisy) is associated with Freya, the goddess of love of fertility, symbolizing Ymir's search and desire for love. It's really amazing once you analyze every weird detail or object that stays on-screen for a bit longer than usual

[@alexandrulada3187]

Also, the flower has 9 petals, and 13 fingers point at Ymir.

[@b4byheart726]

Yes and the parasite under the tree that comes in contact with Ymir could be a nod to Níðhöggr that gnaws on the Yggdrasil roots. Also Níðhöggr is one of the 8 Linnormr in norse mythology. Makes me wonder if we'll see more titans with powers on par to the founding titan in the future? Níðhöggr is rivals with an eagle that sits on top of Yggdrasill, so I'm interested to see if we get a bird titan at some point that battles Eren or something. Níðhöggr also has control over his own little shadow realm, called The Shore of Corpses, where evil people are punished. I doubt all of this will show up later, but I am VERY intrigued to see how much Norse mythology gets incorporated here.

[@MrRandomizer42]

Quite interesting stuff

[@debanjandutta3834]

@@b4byheart726 oh boy

[@SwiddyDiddy]

There’s a comment on their Patreon that talks about this. Really cool as well, I’ll try to copy it here Edit: here it is, credit goes to a Robert H. The ancient Marleyans resemble the earlier Romans, and today's Marleyans (and some Marleyans of Elderly descent) have Italian-influenced names like Niccolo, Carlo, and Porco. Marleyan cuisine consists of pizza, pasta, and seafood. In addition, they have a kind of Italian aesthetic, like the military uniforms that look like Italian colonial uniforms, or the weapons they use that look like Carcano rifles. Furthermore: The name Marley clearly comes from the Italinian word Mare, which means sea. Lago, the ancient city that was destroyed (Grisha / Zeke Backstory, Season 2 Ending), means lake in Italian. The ancient Eldians, on the other hand, look like Germanic barbarians or even Vikings, and most modern Eldians have German names and surnames, such as Yaeger, Braun, Braus, Ackerman, Kirschtein, and so on. Their folklore is also more northern European. Ymir, for example, is a character from Norse mythology that really exists. In our world, the Germanic tribes were enslaved and colonized by the Romans. In AoT, their world map is a mirrored version of ours, and it seems that their history is also mirrored: the " Germanic tribes " defeated the " Romans " with Ymir's powers. On Norse mythology: Muspelheim and Niflheim are the oldest of the nine Norse worlds. Muspelheim was a world of primordial fire, filled with lava, flames and soot. Niflheim is a primordial world of ice, mist and snow. It was a mixture of the icy air of Niflheim and the burning air of Muspelheim that created the primordial soup from which the primordial giant Ymir emerged. After the gods (Willy [Vili], Odin, Vé) have killed the primeval giant Ymir, they create from her corpse all existing things. The world tree Yggdrasil is the first tree that grows (embodiment of creation as a whole: spatial, temporal and content). It is the largest and most magnificent tree in the world. Its branches spread over all nine worlds and stretch across the sky. Yggdrasil has three great roots that spread to three of the nine worlds.

[@qiutongt]

Some people expected Eren's tone to be angry/more angry during his speech, but I prefer the anime version. The anime's rendition, which is calm and distorted, is superior. Also, Eren's calm demeanor, in my opinion, adds to the terror. Yuki Kaji did a great job in this episode. I just wanted to share my thoughts here as well.

[@postafezes]

I agree with you, comrade.

[@portorolla4157]

I didn't know people didn't like it. I loved it.

[@mojgata6238]

Igual hay que entender que Yuki Kaji tuvo problemas con su voz al grabar esto, confirmado por el en su propio Twitter, donde explica que perdio la voz durante la grabación. Los que critican no saben nada, ni lo difícil que es hacer este tipo de trabajos, mas aún cuando se trata de Eren.

[@DouglasR1B]

Imagine yourself doing your daily life stuff and suddenly a voice in your head calmy says that you'll be killed by him soon. That's terrifying.

[@markuman01]

All it needs is to gave you CHILLS

[@Zurik23M]

Ymir is indeed the most tragic character of this story. Even after her death, her suffering didn't end. When they showed her eyes, I could feel all her pain and agony in that look. Thank you for your reactions, girls. You're just like Armin and Falco, giving the light for all of us. I'll be glad to watch to the end and listen to your every thought about this episode.

[@Trathien-]

wdym opened her eyes... they were always open, she needs to see the build the titans

[@yeeyeeasshaircut456]

Zurik binge watching aot reactions lmao

[@Parth-gx1nw]

@@Trathien- eyes opening means she finally got freedom when Eren told her she can finally choose. Her opening eye means she finally got to decide what she wants and u know what happened after that

[@danielcastaneda4975]

She is just a simp

[@justchilling177]

@@Trathien- dude... Did u really took it literally 💀

[@mordirit8727]

"This show is really a competition: which story is the most tragic one?" Ymir: give me 10 minutes, I'll get that damn gold medal.

[@kalakritistudios]

😂😂😂😭

[@baphometwingsof666]

I can't thank you two enough for not taking this show on a surface level action anime, and actually delving into the tragedy of each character. This channel is a goldmine.

[@viktorstojanovic5076]

Exactly, most of the reaction channels just leach onto eren or levi as they're the most badass, its as if nothing else matter, for example, reiner is getting clowed on by the fandom because he usually loses his fights, they dont care about how good his character is or nothing. Props to the girls.

[@JOSEWVJ]

@@viktorstojanovic5076 Yeah like the guys of RTTV that trash him a lot and blindly root for Eren.

[@azmalftw]

Check out filmbuff.. That dude is insane, he understands every single thing and catches on every little detail, dude figured out s4 plots when it wasn't even out in the manga. He's insane lmao, he figured out all the warriors before even their reveals just from paying attention to all the hints and foreshadowing planted by isayama. When watching other reactors, people explain them what is happening but when watching filmbuff, u learn new things that u have missed... He points every single detail out as if he created the story himself

[@MargitTheFellOmen5002]

@@JOSEWVJ lol the looser reiner is he needs to be trashed he got marcel killed, he is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of people in the wall, abandons berthold and annie, he is a bigger failure even bigger than eren

[@viktorstojanovic5076]

@@MargitTheFellOmen5002 Marcel died due to a random titan poping out the ground, nobody could have predicted that, its not reiners fault. He tried to go back for Annie and even fought Zeke for it, but Zeke refused, he couldn't do anything to save bertoldt, everyone took an L in that fight. Stop riding erens chode and recognise the genius and greatness of the rest of the characters and what makes them so great and layered. Plus eren did much more fucked up shit than reiner as a grown ass man than reiner, while reiner was brainwashed as a kid and is now suicidal because of it.

[@popbadre]

From the 13 fingers pointing to Ymir symbolizing her curse (13years as a titan), to the bloody flower with 9 petals symbolizing the 9 titans, to the image in the book with Ymir and the devil (Ymir giving her power to the devil of the earth, Eren) to so many more... This episode alone is enough to put AOT in a class of its own. An absolute masterpiece.

[@fahrenheit2101]

Ymir giving her power to Eren? I mean, sure, but that's certainly not what's depicted in the book intentionally. But yeah I suppose, at a stretch, it's a funky parallel, and she does pretty much make that "deal with the devil" 2000 years in advance.

[@roberthorne9597]

@@fahrenheit2101 eren is the end to her story, he was predestined, or rather, he predestined himself into the past (the power of the attack titan came from Ymir) by saving Ymir, so maybe that is what is depicted in the book, that to undo the great evil that was dispersed onto the land by Ymir's abuse, a bigger evil paid the bill.

[@fahrenheit2101]

@@roberthorne9597 and the book held such wisdom and predicted such a future? Not all likely. the book's exactly what it is at face value, given how long ago it was written, anything else is just cool poetic details that, canonically speaking, don't bear relevance. I do like the symbolism of it though, but I wouldn't say Eren's undoing the evil at all, just perpetuating a different sort.

[@ivanb9320]

watching a 1h20min film?? pffff nah watching a 1h20min aot reaction video of lola and milena ? ABSOLUTELY YES

[@lilmupp875]

Read my mind

[@darkale658]

when they said "we'll talk about this for half an hour" and there's an hour left in the video 😂

[@Michaelonyoutub]

I think what people miss is that Ymir wanted to be loved, and she viewed being useful as a way to be loved. She hoped to be love by the people, which is why she took the blame, then once she had the power of the titans, she wanted to be loved by the king and the Eldian people which is why she helped them, and something mess up like getting the "seed of the king" could be misconstrued by Ymir as her being loved. That is also why she wanted to protect the king with her life, she wanted to be helpful and loved, but hearing him still call her his slave even after saving his life and then demanding even more from her, made her finally give up on being loved by the king and she died since she lack motivation similar to how titan shifters don't heal if they have no motivation.

[@wily99994]

True

[@JessChillN_]

Well yeah idk if you’ve watch GOT but sansa wanted to be the queen one day and was super happy with the idea of being married off to the prince in episode and she’s like 12/13 it’s a honor back then so for a slave girl she was probably super brainwashed and happy to be useful

[@oreki8707]

@@JessChillN_ true

[@ahmadiskandarzulkarnain5833]

That's what i thought in my head, but i don't know how to express and make words

[@kysfggt]

"I think what people miss" ofc they miss it because they didn't explain it yet like they did in the manga

[@Bfr3shBrian]

Two of the most intelligent/insightful AoT reactors, they just "get it". Wish more people arguing on Twitter would watch this channel lol

[@SashaTsy]

What about Filmbuff? In my opinion, he has the most constructive analytics among the reactors.

[@mmor7380]

What are they saying in twitter

[@Oakland510]

factor in, english is not even their native tongue but their analysis is probably the best out of many reactors's whose mother tongue is english. i have to give them credit

[@okuigokublack]

@@mmor7380 Don't, don't go to Twitter. Stay away from that hellhole.

[@gll447]

@@SashaTsy filmbluff has been sus to me since the basement reveal

[@graceparker1512]

“There is nothing Chad there. There is just sadness.” - Lola, 1:14:47

[@meowmei5051]

Lola*

[@NoNo-fe8kn]

Seems like a large portion of the fandom couldn’t grasp that concept

[@ManOfCinema-]

This show was made for these type of people fr.

[@gabrielavilla9726]

The way they are directly adressing the most disgusting part of the community without actually knowing so, lol

[@ManOfCinema-]

@@gabrielavilla9726 Just that indirect roast, lmao

[@BryanD77]

Just thinking about how Ymir as a literal child experienced: - her village being attacked - her parents murdered - her tongue cut out - being sold out by slaves alongside her (showing she literally had no one on her side) - being hunted for sport - being used and abused It's not surprising that she took this long to heal from trauma of this magnitude that, again, SHE GOT AS A CHILD. And we witnessed her unleash the trillion years of bottled up emotions from all of this.

[@portorolla4157]

she had three children before she was 14. yikes.

[@m3owerin992]

she also got her eye carved out as punishment as well

[@marcroy2895]

I'm pretty sure if your tongue is cut off you die no matter what. I think they were just punishing a random guy, I don't believe that they cut off the tongues of every slave.

[@portorolla4157]

@@marcroy2895 No. you can live without a tongue.

[@bitch8205]

Amazing how Paradis depicted her as a selfless hero and Marley depicted her as a responsible adult who made a deal with the devil, only for both to be wrong. She was a child who had to be selfless to survive as a slave, and simply did as she told. There was no deal with a devil. She never should have had to endure all that in the first place. All that glory and hatred on a child who simply tried to live.

[@latinguitar2]

FUN FACT: If you guys remember in the outro of season 2, you can see Ymir's daughters eating her body, a bunch of colossal titans walking out of paradise island (the rumbling) and other events that have happened in the show. Truly mind blowing how they basically told us what was going to happen and yet we had NO IDEA!!

[@OnionTaylorJoy]

And all that before those events even happened in the manga. Isayama told them to include that knowing where it was going.

[@FoxxyCZ]

I must have watched 20 reactions to this episode and NO ONE recognizes that scene.

[@Juanpa_dominguez]

HOW IS THAT FUN

[@Anas_Vigilante]

@@OnionTaylorJoy first time in the world anime watchers spoils to manga readers XD

[@reymisteryo9163]

Maybe Isayama is fed up of manga readers spoiling everything there so he spoiled them with the final season. Probably Eren is behind all of these, he manipulates Isayama using the Founding's power.

[@instinct9641]

Not a confirmed fact but: i like to imagine Eren as ymir’s rebelious side incarnated as a person. And that when the 9 titans split with ymir’s grandchildren, the attack titan inherited ymir’s will for freedom and that’s why the attack titan never bows to anyone. And that Eren is the embodiment of it.

[@deliii395]

eren is the attack titan and the attack titan is part of ymir that craves freedom and that's why eren was simply born craving freedom.

[@xxx-us9fj]

@Divine Lotus idk what part of the ending you're referring to but if its about the epilogue then all of what you're saying has nothing to do with eren and the way he was born

[@gabriel-n5x5z]

[MAY HAVE A LITTLE SPOILER AHEAD] I don't think that way, in my opinion you're almost right, but it's the attack titan that inherited Eren's will to rebel, not the other way around, because Eren is the last attack titan, and as we know, all previous ones received memories of the future sent by Eren via the coordinates.

[@instinct9641]

@@gabriel-n5x5z maybe it’s both. You know the whole thing with eren always saying “i was born this way”

[@Slavic_Snake]

@Divine Lotus only idiots are the ones who think the ending was good.

[@marianaborrelli4136]

Don't forget that when they captured her they cut off her tongue (they cut every slave tongue), so the other slaves probably knew that the king would definitely gouge out their eyes.

[@ahmadiskandarzulkarnain5833]

And that's why they don't talk, they just pointed Ymir

[@MaycroftCholmsky]

That could have actually been moe pronounced, since there is only one scene which is somewhat censured. I wouldn't catch that unless I watched the comparisons between anime and mangs on youtube. Also, that explains why even in the Coordinate Ymir doesn't talk. Also might explain her regenerating the damage done to the bodies of the later shifterrs - she had her body mutilated and wanted to help others restore theirs?

[@Oakland510]

@@MaycroftCholmsky she could have regenerated her tongue too by the way but chose not to

[@marianaborrelli4136]

@@Oakland510 No, she couldn't, because it was already a closed wound. She did regenerate her eye for example because it was still open.

[@Oakland510]

@@marianaborrelli4136 when you say closed, do You mean it happened before she got the power ?

[@FrizFroz]

You're right - this show is full of tragic characters. The only one who has some modicum of normalcy growing up is Jean... whose _only_ sob story is seeing his friends die left and right.

[@unknmanserbia2642]

lol these two feminist only have fake reactions.

[@mayflyrose8195]

@@unknmanserbia2642 well that was uncalled for

[@felipesuarez5530]

@@unknmanserbia2642 wtf dude?

[@MostWantedYouTuber]

@@unknmanserbia2642 I won't say fake but overreaction.

[@BlueButterFlyXOXO]

@@unknmanserbia2642 Yeah sure These two have been bawling their eyes out for this show and yet they're still take? Lmao sure

[@imsimplyonehellofabutler.718]

I like Eren as a character. He's one of my favourite anime protagonists. I certainly do not support his actions but I have a love-hate relationship with him. His desire for freedom is exactly what led him to slowly walk into a massive, horrifying trap. He is, in my opinion, one of the most tragic anime characters.

[@imsimplyonehellofabutler.718]

Please don't hate me. 🙇‍♀️ We can like a character without supporting their actions.

[@julianmellek1688]

I'm a Supporter of Eren... I mean it is kill or being killed... If Marley didn't attack Paradis Island this would not have happend... The people of Paradis don't even know, why they were attacked... The actions of their anchestors were cruel... But even without the titans there have been war...

[@natasha6125]

Same

[@ayushkumar-ej6tc]

His desire for freedom didn't led him to this. But his life events did.

[@sidanic6684]

Honestly, there's no 'right' side. It's a tragedy, everyone has no choice but to do what they are doing

[@NanoDelMar]

Someone mentioned that since time moves differently in the paths, every time someone transformed into a titan Ymir had to mold their titan by hand so they could transform which made it seem instantaneous for us but in reality it probably took her days, weeks, months, or even years to mold a single transformation out of many. That is literal hell.

[@ali_el_baba3665]

That why it was time to free her. Eren felt her pain and he heard her crys for help. After all these years Eren was the only one who saw Ymir as a person and not as a slave. Even Zeke (and the royal bloodline before him) always saw her just as a slave. Zeke himself treated her like a "tool" without a soul.

[@gianchaves4392]

Ymir was on that grind

[@aracuscesar]

do you think once the titan is made, it remains like that? or she has to make them from start over and over and over, the titan shifters i mean

[@jo0rd73]

@@aracuscesar Iy was confirmed for shifters she has to mood them from scratch each time they call on the powers of the titans, leading me to believe when they recover via steam she could also be rebuilding them herself in those circumstances too like what she did with Zeke.

[@nicolapavoni180]

Really??????

[@sabasgt]

29:55 Milena regressing into a small little ball form in that blanket is the most appropriate reaction for all these crazy developments.

[@Britosedgar]

This anime is a masterpiece...within its story, the real history of mankind is summed up. A group of humans impose themselves on other human beings, and then comes the revenge. AOT narrates the vicious circle of revenge.

[@leipura4214]

Revenge and selfishness. It's so hard to watch but at the same time, so fascinating how it's rooted irl.

[@CougheePls]

Funny how years ago we thought that the titans were the evil of this series, but they're not. The evil of this series is mankind itself

[@iHaz2Krayonz]

lol its boutta be bottom tier for you really quick

[@artavazdhovhannisyan2472]

@@iHaz2Krayonz why, because you didn't like the ending and want to cry about it?

[@fs400ion]

It can't. Even if it were a soooo bad ending as a few mouthful haters seem to believe, the story still delivers beautiful messages in a unique way.

[@SoularSpectrum]

I love that in the same episode, we see Eren as the compassionate character, treating Ymir with respect and wanting to give her a voice in her own life while Zeke simply accepted that she was a slave and treated her as such, but minutes later Eren is a literal genocidal villain, transformed into a monster, trampling the earth, giving a speech about the atrocities he's about to commit. And you feel both sides so deeply. It blows my mind. What a masterpiece.

[@noxx3096]

Erwin to his teacher : "How do we know that there aren't any humans left outside of the walls ?" Eren : "Well actually..."

[@saverio_6990]

Eren broadcasted to all subjects of ymir just to say *FUCK THEM KIDS*

[@cyrilleleb.8563]

Well actually... What walls ?

[@stevewang9394]

@@cyrilleleb.8563 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha I'm dying now bruh

[@Lamy6845]

When Fritz asked who set the pig free and the adults blamed Ymir, who was just a child, it reminded me of what Sasha’s father said about keeping children “out of the forest”. It can be seen as symbolic when Ymir runs into a forest and becomes a Titan, as if she was being set free into the forest that continues (or in this case, starts) the cycle of hatred.

[@Lamy6845]

She was never given the love that stops the cycle of hatred.

[@fahrenheit2101]

I never noticed the literal forest metaphor on display - wow!

[@lxttlcrow_1293]

Now that you mentioned how Eren wouldn’t be the way he is if the world was normal i really want you guys to read the au manga of aot where they’re high schoolers because it gives you so much more insight to these characters’ personalities in a different context, especially Eren.

[@blyki867]

that’s not from the main story tho

[@KeangoDLuke]

@@blyki867 it still does give insight on his character. Makes 131 and 139 make so much sense

[@Valkyraw]

@@blyki867 attack on titan high school is canon and part of the main story, as we have seen memories of gothkasa and nerdarmin when zeke touched erens head

[@brawler5785]

@@KeangoDLuke Can I ask how school castes makes 139 eren make sense? cause school castes eren is like a school shooter.

[@elevate07]

@@brawler5785 *EXTREME SPOILERS! DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU'VE COMPLETED THE ENTIRETY OF THE MANGA* So in 131 and 139 Eren admits that the racism and the hatred towards his people had nothing to do with why he was going through with The Rumbling. The whole thing was a tantrum because the outside world was not the way he wanted it to be. In the AU manga, Eren has no world ending calamity to fight against and therefore no excuse to fight against everyone around him. When he falls asleep he dreams of the world falling to a zombie apocalypse and him fighting against everything around him was the happiest he'd ever been. Only for him to wake up in tears because in this story there's nothing for him to fight. And his feelings of not being fulfilled are tearing him apart. To the point that he admits that he would manufacture a zombie apocalypse to tear the world apart just to give himself an excuse to fight the whole world. Although he realizes that feeling is wrong.

[@nom__sain2239]

Armin: Eren did it! 😄 *2 seconds later* Armin: Eren did it! 😬

[@pedro.moraes]

when they were talking about the Rumbling and saying "it's too early"… i think a lot of us can relate to that feeling lmao. when i was reading the manga, i felt the same way, then………… 💀 well, we know what happened

[@anaccident523]

This is actually mind blowing. in season 3 when we saw grisha's memories for the first time, the info dumping episode, grisha's father said, the 145th king of the walls fled to paradis the titan shifters die after 13 years so they had to pass it on after 13 years of having the power. 145 kings, each lived 13 years since having the founder titan. 145 x 13 = 1885. in the first episode they said titans annihlated humanity 100 years ago.(meaning 100 years ago king fritz altered their memories to think so) season 3 ep 3 when erwin was talking with pyxis, he said somthing about the truth of what happened 107 yeras ago is not known yet. so specifically it was 107 years ago king fritz altered everyones memories. 1885 (since first founder titan which is yumir died) + 107 (since king fritz moved to the island)= 1992 assuming in the year 1992 since the death of yumir, king fritz has had 0 years left, so obviously he had done the plan with the warhammer holder a year before dying, fled to the island then lived a year before passing the power) so when 1884 years since yumir died, the king wiped their memories, + adding 107 years to reach the day the attack on the walls started(ep1). the attck on wall maria in episode 1 started 1991 years after the death of yumir. since episode 01 the story progressed 9 years to reach the current episode 80. 1991 + 9 = 2000.

[@UnicornLover177]

Woah wtf thatsindbliwung, the author did his math

[@isaacya1438]

OMFG

[@martinpi1237]

shit is crazy

[@person9305]

Wait maybe I’m just confused, but in season 3 when Erwin was talking to Pyxis and said 107 years ago, it had already been 5 years since the walls were breached in episode 1. Which means it was actually 102 years from the time the King wiped their memories to the moment the wall was breached, not 107. So 1884+102 = 1986 years since the death of Ymir. Add 9 years and we get 1995, not 2000. Maybe I’m misunderstanding something

[@viriatox9782]

It's very interesting, but I think you are wrong in 2 aspects: In the first place, when Erwin expressly mentions the figure of 107 years to Commander Pixis, that happens during the events narrated in the 1st part of the Season 3, for what has happened 5 years after the attack of the Colossal and Armored Titans on Shinganshina . That is, that attack occurred 102 years after 145th king Karl Fritz executed his plan. And the events that are happening in the Final Season occurred 4 years after discovering the basement (fact happened about 2 to 3 months after that talk between Erwin and Pixis) and 3 years after discovering the sea, it means that they are happening 111 years after 145th king Karl Fritz executed his plan. 145 x 13 = 1885 1885 + 102 = 1987 1987 + 5 + 4 = 1996 Also, Eren, Mikasa, and Armin and the rest of the young protagonists come from the 104th Cadets Corps, a class that enlisted 2 years after the colossal attack on Shinganshina. The 109th Cadets Corps (that Flock forces Shadis to beat up) it is the one that at that moment is in its last year of instruction (which lasts 3 years) before graduating to be able to choose the branch of the army that they wanted. 1885 + 104 = 1989 1989 + 5 = 1994 1994 + 2 = 1996 Secondly, we know that the first king was that bastard named Fritz, but the Ymir curse does not apply to him because he was never a titan, and although it seems that he died when his daughters (who did have the Ymir curse) were alive (perhaps 4 more years, which would cause the sum of the figures (1996 + 4 = 2000)), I doubt very much that whoever succeeded him as Eldian king was one of them, but another son of his, from another woman (the episode hints that he had numerous concubines), who would not suffer Ymir's curse either. This is a theory of mine, but I think it may be correct for the following information: if Ymir only had 3 daughters (Maria, Rose, and Sina) and they were all fathered by Fritz, then all of Subjects of Ymir are members of the royal family. However, Eren only had access to the power of the Founding Titan when he was in contact with people from what we know as the Royal Family (Dina Fritz, in her titan form; Rod and Historia Reiss, and Zeke Jeager). My theory is that considering Ymir's curse, Maria, Rose and Sina had to die even at a younger age than Ymir herself (all three appear to be younger than Ymir's age when she gained titan powers), giving birth to few children each (the most reasonable figure is that there were 3 children for each of them, giving rise to the 9 Titans). In this way, the Founding Titan is separated from the rest of the 9 Titans. Then, after an indeterminate amount of time, the then bearer of the Founding Titan must have made a kind of vow similar to the one made by 145th king Karl Fritz so that only the lineage from that bearer of the Founding Titan could inherit the full power of the Founding Titan. In addition, it is most likely that said bearer of the Founding Titan was paired with a member of the line of succession of the Eldian Crown of that time (which would be a non-titan descendant of the 1st king Fritz) to unify both the Eldian Crown and the power of the Founding Titan, since it is necessary to keep in mind that the Fritz dynasty reigns uninterruptedly since the origin of the Eldian Empire. That could better explain what Grisha's father says when he explains Eldian history from Marley's perspective ("1820 years ago..."), a fact that happened 37 years before the events are happening during the Final Season. As a result, the first Fritz kings reigned longer than the 13 years limited by Ymir's curse, but some kings with the founding titan may have died before their time (surely due to internal power struggles similar to the Great Titan War, and perhaps for that reason, 145th king Karl Fritz had those ideals), making the figure of 2000 years possible.

[@cameronwilliams3599]

I keep coming back to you two. Your reactions are so genuine. I can feel how invested your are, and it shows.

[@SlaineReigns]

Finally, reactors who understand Ymir, you guys are the first ones who understood her. Great Job! Yes she is the biggest tragedy in the story. She's been in servitude all this time, for 2000 years, and she finally made a decision for herself for the first time in her life. The first episode and current episode titles, directly correlates the connection between Eren and Ymir for 2000 years. That's what it's implying.

[@josuecarlosdiaz7051]

Literally Eren said "I will destroy the world" when he was going to eat Annie and lost control at season 1 Also Eren said "you can't expect a horror story to have a happy ending" while he was heading to that fight

[@omarholder9036]

That was anime only. Eren lost when Annie kicked his face in. She was climbing the wall to escape and Armin, Mikasa and Eren worked together to stop her climb. Eren threw Mikasa at Annie under Armin's instruction and that's how she fell. Then she crystalized to avoid being killed/captured

[@larkezcrami2538]

@@omarholder9036 isayama asked the animeproduction team to make it that way in season 1

[@MadsoKuest]

@@larkezcrami2538 Evidence?

[@larkezcrami2538]

@@MadsoKuest well i heard this from my friend to their friend and i saw some comments in other aot videos stated that - it was eren gone berserk

[@GTRMclaren722]

@@omarholder9036 anime is canon, every change is canon, confirmed by the man itself.

[@hmzhyt]

The most interesting part about Erens character to me is how his goals from killing all the titans shifted completely into killing every person outside of the wall and how his demeanor changed so much from someone completely giving in to his emotions and not being able to control them into someone who is able to control a situation and follow through a plan, at first sight it seems that he has completely changed but he always stayed the same. Eren hasn’t changed, our perspective towards him did. As he said "Ever since i was born, i’ve always been who i am.“

[@jazzy4164]

Yes

[@ali_el_baba3665]

Well his goal never shifted. The only thing this guy wants is to be "free". To achieve this goal he thought that killing the titans outside the wall would be enough. Later he found out that over the sea there are millions of people with advanced technology who want to kill everyone on paradise---> no freedome for Eren. I feel like many people act like Eren is killing for fun or to get revenge. He is only killing everyone because they want to kill him and Mikasa, Armin and everyone he loves. He is fighting to free his people.

[@Claire-tx2mm]

Yuki Kaji (Eren's va) as always, did a great job but can we also acknowledge or talk about Reiner's va, Yoshimasa Hosoya? He's also been outstanding this season! EDIT: Yes, Takehito Koyasu (Zeke's va) and Hiroshi Tsuchida (Grisha's va) has been outstanding as well! Seriously tho, the voice actors in AoT are phenomenal.

[@switchblade1716]

Hes A Legend Man His Voice Acting Is Amazing

[@briquesbts]

He's said literally one word this episode

[@Kitsuni16]

@@briquesbts read

[@oerwhat]

@@briquesbts and it still left an impression

[@reymisteryo9163]

Yup! His scream when the titan Falco sprints to him is the best. I'm pretty sure Reiner inside his Titan sh!t his pants.

[@mrsuperselenio5694]

I don't know why are people surprised, like when Armin showed Eren the book from the outside world, Eren realized he wasn't free, while for Armin being able to explore and satify his curiosity in the outside world meant freedom, for Eren having those places meant freedom and the reason he couldn't have them was because there were walls needed to protect them from the titans, hence why up until season 3 he thought that by eliminating all the titans he would finally be free. After all the titans were killed and they finally reached the sea, Eren had already seen that beyond the sea there were only people that hated them and just like the titans stopped him from being free, now the entire world was stopping him and we all now how he deals with people who try to take his freedom, Eren takes theirs first. Hence the last thing he says on season 3 was " If all of our enemies die, will we finally be free?". But the irony being that Eren himself will never be free as he is not doing what he wants, he is doing exactly what is set out for him already by his future self, Eren is a slave to himself, he can never be free.

[@Oakland510]

how does that make sense, you say ' he is not doing what he wants' but he stated many times "| i have always been like this" " i was born into this world " . This is who he's always been. He has not ever wanted anything else

[@mrsuperselenio5694]

@@Oakland510 Its a timeloop paradox. From the moment you see the future you will never know if what you are doing in the present is your choice or doing exactly the choices that will make the future you saw possible. Basically Eren's life was already set up before he was even born by his future self. Even if Eren wanted to change his future he wouldn't be able to, he never did what he wanted, he did and was manipulated by his future self to do what was needed for the future to happen hence why he could never be free from himself

[@ali_el_baba3665]

@@mrsuperselenio5694 Technically then none of us is livin a life were we are "free". Our future is already set, we just dont know it. We still have to live through it.

[@mrsuperselenio5694]

@@ali_el_baba3665 Well it depends on what you believe I guess, since none of us can't see the future we can't tell for sure. Most religions believe our life is already written but at the same time it makes prayers useless as no matter how much you pray things won't change or stop it from happening.

[@rumfordc]

if his future _self_ set his path... then he IS free. who made the choice? him. thats freedom. if someone _else_ made the choice, he wouldn't be free.

[@mariostudio7]

36:58 Supposedly, the devil in the books was king Fritz himself and the apple represented "his seed".

[@offtiqeu8701]

It could be Eren It could be King Fritz Aot gives us the choice how to interpret it.

[@mariostudio7]

@@offtiqeu8701 if it was Eren it would be prophecy not "history" though

[@Endisfree_]

@@offtiqeu8701 it’s not eren eren can be compared or paralleled to it but the devil definitely represented king fritz

[@offtiqeu8701]

@@Endisfree_ I see

[@LegendaryPingu]

I think the best interpretation is that it’s ymir giving king Fritz - the devil - the apple, her power. Looking at it, you’d think it would be the other way around, so I think it’s a great subversion.

[@RoxanaGark]

I was a bit ironic to hear from them in the pre-discussion things like: "Perhaps is no sadder backstory than Zeke's in Shingeki no Kyojin." Meanwhile I was thinking... "Well, girls in this episode you are going to know the epitome of the saddest backstories to all time" ...that of a poor girl slave named Ymir.

[@denjipochita3398]

Eren Jaeger is basically Ymir’s yearning for freedom personified. They’re one and the same. Eren and the Attack Titan both represent her will and defiance against the world. That’s why the Attack Titan has a will of it’s own. It’s her will. Isayama is an absolute genius.

[@thedragondread9587]

super genocide isn't freedom

[@spartanoreo5075]

@@thedragondread9587 It can lead to freedom for those in the walls, just not peace. Freedom to explore without anyone threatening them with death. However peace is a different scenario all together

[@thedragondread9587]

@@spartanoreo5075 if freedom means killing hundreds of millions of civilians, yeah, I prefer peace.

[@Based_Thinker]

@@thedragondread9587 freedom and peace aren't the same. Technically anarchy is freedom but not peaceful at all

[@thedragondread9587]

@@Based_Thinker again, if freedom means killing hundreds of millions of civilians, yeah, I prefer peace. Why would anyone not choose peace?

[@hulkie1016]

16:34 Fun fact: Eren's VA almost lost his voice recording that scene.

[@Grimshal]

hum, again?

[@ulf7279]

sauce?

[@santokun5835]

@@Grimshal lol

[@kurimiaisukurimu]

And it's why his voice is so low during his speech at the end of the episode.

[@VenomAntiVenom]

Fun fact: You made up some random shit in an attempt to be funny.

[@joemama7134]

Sumary: Zeke: What are you doing stepbro? Eren: TATAKAE!!! Ymir: You son of a bitch, I’m in

[@fishsmellbad1862]

LM: Zeke is the most tragic AOT character Ymir: Allow me to introduce myself

[@daryeusford9696]

@One he’s probably like top 4 in in the 4th place. Ymir, eren, and zeke are the most tragic. Maybe grisha too

[@natnael13]

@@daryeusford9696 that’s facts

[@bruhhh8326]

@One why the fuck Levi is here

[@honeycake1488]

@@daryeusford9696 why eren is a tragic character...? He did everything himself.

[@udithsethu552]

@One Levi's life isn't that tragic compared to Ymir.

[@brutevilgax777]

I love how Attack on Titan is basically: "life outside the walls doesn't exist" "oh wait yeah it does" "... you know what, on second thought, no it doesn't."

[@VictoriaTraducciones]

best comment 😂😂😂

[@meow-vb3xf]

ymir's backstory is my no.1 fav in this whole story, its tragic beyond imagination, her whole life and even after death, she never had a rest . also milena's laugh cured my depression that I got from attack on titan 30:48

[@georgieacero7043]

she got that rich CEO laugh

[@meow-vb3xf]

@@georgieacero7043 true

[@samidare7310]

The pain in ymirs eyes.. oh god. this literally made me cry.

[@pedro.moraes]

she's my favorite character, i can't tell you how much i cried with this ep 🥲

[@matteoricciardi3199]

Wtf 😂

[@Italianchef26]

Your analysis of Eren's character and motivations has to be one of the most lucid and precise I've ever heard. I think it's brilliant that you started questioning his character the moment he saved Mikasa. I remember thinking the same way back then. Not to say that he didn't do the right thing, he saved Mikasa from those kidnappers, that's heroic. But the fact that he was even able, as a child, to think and act like that always left me wondering if he was insane or something like that since the very start of the story. Of course I never thought he would go this far, but his very "complex" state of mind is something that has always been in the back of my mind every time something important happened (when he learned about the Coordinate, when he learned of the outside world, when he planned the attack on Liberio, etc...) Also, maybe you've already heard this but the story probably won't end with this season, there might be a movie for the finale. Yeah kinda weird I know, this "Final Season" has started in 2019 I think and it's been split in two parts and that still won't be enough lol

[@sophiea3324]

Out of all the AoT reactions, you girls, FilmBuff, and Semblance or Sanity are the ones I'm most looking forward to seeing!

[@craig5169]

100% and Goodwin too

[@umang6771]

Those are my three go-to reaction channels as well for SNK 😆

[@corn3880]

Goodwin and Working Title too

[@Daesma999]

I see you are people of the culture as well

[@afckingleaf1946]

also blind wave when dub comes out.

[@yuiokubo6297]

I'm Japanese. I am really happy and proud that people all over the world enjoy 'Attack on titan,' one of the greatest Japanese animations! And I love their reactions and smart considerations.

[@nilsolofleif8886]

You should be proud! We all have our modern myths, art and contributions that makes us take pride in our culture and nation. I'm Swedish and I love the show to bits! 😊

[@renrww6847]

nice

[@ShikaBaneSoul]

Eren: "I've undone the hardening of Paradis Island's walls" Pastor Nick: "Make the titans wear sunglasses, don't let the light hit them, be back by 10pm"

[@lwazinkasawe3887]

You know what? Hang on a second. Ymir had her tongue removed as a slave, but Titans and Titan shifters can easily regenerate from that. Ymir remaining mute because it didn't occur to her to take back her tongue, and thereby, her voice, speaks volumes of how being a slave affected her

[@kozako2253]

She also chose to let herself die instead of healing herself from the spear.

[@lwazinkasawe3887]

@@kozako2253 That was years later, presumably 13 because... Well, the Curse of Ymir. Anyway, it should have instantly healed the tongue on the first transformation

[@kozako2253]

@@lwazinkasawe3887 oh you could be right! Very interesting

[@hazri8758]

@@kozako2253 some guy said that in the manga, it's made clear that Ymir died 13 years after he got the titan power. Idk if that's true, though. But seeing Ymir's children have grown up, it must be the curse.

[@justraul6405]

15:26 Eren really said "Dude, we were just getting to the good part"

[@mateopuna98]

Yeah I thought that was a weird sick humor

[@justraul6405]

@@mateopuna98 If this is a joke and when he said "I am no longer brainwashed" was sarcasm, and Isayama intended it I love it XD

[@Ray-ot2bg]

I have no words, everyday with your reactions just confirms the fact that your understand this story BETTER than anyone else and for that i love you with all my heart guys🥺

[@ollantaymedina2204]

27:50 so we have confirmation that LM are actually Subjects of Ymir. They couldn't ignore Lord's Eren call. Also Eren: "Testing 1,2,3, ... 1,2,3. Is this thing working? Hear me, Subjects of Ymir."

[@kayskreed]

This show reminds me why we need more people like Mr. Braus. Eren's definitely been stuck in the forest way, WAY too long.

[@red.4712]

Havent even got to the reaction part yet but I am amazed by how you girls analyze Eren and his idea of freedom. You girls really understand so much about this story, much more than I did the first time

[@bitch8205]

Amazing how Ymir was depicted as a nice selfless figure on Paradis and an adult who made a deal with the devil on Marley, but both sides were wrong. She wasn’t selfless on her own will, she had to be selfless in order to survive as a slave. She was also not an adult who made a deal with the devil, she was a child who simply did as she was told. All this glory or hatred placed on a child who never should have had to deal with any of that in the first place, and when the “love” she thought she finally got as a titan just turned into another order even as she lied on the ground in her own blood, she no longer wanted to live. So when she died and went to the Paths, she reverted back to the child we see now.

[@bennogb5069]

lets also not forget King Fritz in all of this. Honestly I dont even wanna call him Fritz, I just call him Fritz445 aka EDP445, since its heavily implied he gave his "seed", even tough she was like 12 or so. And not only is it a fact he made "her" daugthers eat all of her corpse, but he also gave them up to be basically systematically ra8ed and then told them to feed their spines to their grandchildren if they died. I just got the creeps from when he was lying in bed telling his daugthers to "bear children and multiply" and there is a crowd of adults looming behind them... its not even fun to think about what that implies...

[@marko1263]

Marleyans were more justified in thinking she's evil since she conquered them and is responsible for their centuries of slavery to Eldia. Eldians on the other hand just deny all the shit they've done to others and completely whitewash their history.

[@tx6723]

@@marko1263 she isn't evil because she had no good sense of self due to her life she simply did as she was told because she always believed she was a slave, the opposition between eldia and Marley has been going on before the Titans it seems and will prob continue after them

[@RenoDW]

I agree with you. People actually need to know about this basic thing about Ymir. No, she's not a "simp" who is like "oh yeah i love you, beat me harder, hurt me". WTF. She thought it was "love", because the king actually used her as tool, probably gave her a lot of things too in the empire, she thought it's "better" than to be a useless slave. But she still thinks as a slave. It hurt and horrible, until she got speared and saw Fritz that still saw her a mere slave, she no longer wanted to live anymore. Thought she could go from this agony if she just dies, she entered the path where she still had to obey the Fritz all over again. It's just tragic.

[@twiphe4375]

I think she reverted back to her child self cause she never matured emotionally as of the point where her home was burnt and her tongue cut off

[@SavageStarlight42]

Finally, after all this time the true villain has been exposed: The escaped pigs. If those selfish farm animals hadn’t neglected their duty, none of this would’ve happened. This has to be the greatest plot twist in all of AoT. Oh right, also the Rumbling is about to start. Goddamn pigs. 🐷

[@DownUFO]

Nah I’m team pig. Us manga readers know, once the story transitions to the last 10 chapters being all about the pigs and their adventures and wacky antics, it becomes clear that it was worth the consequences.

[@alphaomega5673]

@@DownUFO facts, seriously though the pig storyline is the best arc to ever exist

[@alphaomega5673]

@@DownUFO can’t wait for it to be animated

[@Pedro-sq6gq]

Imagine hating team pig 😹👎

[@wymg4480]

the pigs were the real reason Eren decided to end this world.

[@Timliu92]

I find it really ironic that a calm, collected Eren is WAY more terrifying than the younger, hot-headed one. Truly incredible character development by the writers.

[@AndreS-jc7vs]

I have so many thoughts! Eren: The Marleyans had The Devil of All Earth as an explanation for the origin of titan powers and Yrmir. I found it really interesting that Eren is being presented now as a literal devil, first tempting Grisha (literally being the whispering devil on his shoulder) and now in that last image of his face he looked almost demonic. I also find it really interesting that, with all the memories shenanigans with the attack and founding powers, the very concept of free will is in question. In AoT time is a fixed thing it seems, what happened always happened and was always meant to happen. We don´t know how much Eren saw but is he even culpable of his actions? What he is doing is of course wrong, its genocide after all, but if he saw himself do all this is this even his choice or is he himself a puppet of his future self? Yrmir: Imagine being a slave your entire life and then in death spending 2000 years in a place where an instant is an eternity doing endless work. A second for Zeke felt like years and years for him, 2000 years must have been a mind-numbing amount of time for Yrmir. For sure the one with the most tragic backstory, poor girl. She was so deep in the slave mentality because she knew nothing else. Yrmir was never free until Eren gave her that choice, she never had someone be kind to her and Eren was the first to treat her like a person. Even Zeke who´s plan was arguably more ethical than Eren´s just saw her as a tool and nothing more. I really think Eren is somehow her wish for freedom made flesh and of course she would be all about watching the world burn, it brought her nothing but pain.

[@TheKiza02]

In terms of culpability, I feel there are two types of people in AOT, the ones that just follow their lifes path unknowingly, and Eren. Eren is in the unique situation of being able to see his own future and deciding to not only follow it, but manipulate others paths to ensure his own. I feel once you take part in enforcing the cycle you are culpable for what happens in it. In terms of wrong I feel Eren is thinking correctly in: Short of miraculously finding some place where the True Eldians can live with no one else in that world (which wouldn't work anyway because inside the walls is the place he was born, it's a huge part of what he's fighting for) only one of three things can happen. 1) The True Eldians die (probably ensuring the deaths of all Eldians to finally end the threat). 2) The True Eldians kill all non-Eldians and now have to deal with many Eldians that have been raised to hate Eldians creating massive infighting (though the True Eldians would have many supporters too) 3) Eren kills two birds with one stone and protects his home, and the True Eldians freedom in one fell swoop by CREATING a world where humanity did perish outside the walls. The only time this ends in complete success for Eren is omnicide. it completely makes sense, and Eren has actively shaped events in order to obtain the means to ensure his (and by extension the True Eldians) freedom. regardless of possibly being called by Ymir, he's culpable, and however terrible his actions are, he feels they are 100% necessary.....that being said I'm anime only so I don't know if he's gonna pull another uno reverse card.

[@wilbraley1660]

Also thinking about the future seeing and the free will, Eren most likely has already thought about that! He saw everything that was gonna happen through his dad’s memories, meaning that he saw himself doing things in the past in the future. Remember when he was acting really depressed and off when they went to the beach? He’d already begun to grow his hair out then. He definitely knew what he was going to end up doing, and has debated whether hes truly free to make choices or hes stuck doing what has to happen. Thats probably why he also said that about defeating their enemies giving them freedom; he most likely saw everything leading up to this and knew that he would have to cause the rumbling and end the world. Ironically, eren being the one chasing freedom the most is what stopped him from being free, since he caused the past and the future and boxed himself into this timeline

[@Indoor_Carrot]

I see you've watched that video essay too. It poses a very interesting thought. If you can see yourself in the future doing something completely different to anything you would have imagined you would do. E.g. you hate school, but see a future where you are a teacher. Would your actions from then on be influenced by knowing the future outcome and therefore end up creating said future? Even if you attempt to avoid it, may ironically create the very future you don't want. Or maybe seeing it encourages you to change your view of being in a school and start looking into teaching more closely and actually enjoying the idea of it. That decision to research it only came from the vision of the future outcome. In this case, are you free to make your own choice with teaching? This concept is important to consider when discussing Eren. He sees the future and what he will do with the Rumbling, so does he have any free will at all?

[@justtry5721]

@@Indoor_Carrot Hard question, but he sees only few things in the future not everything, and probably he saw that his current actions will result the best outcome possible for Eldians and the rest of the world..

[@Indoor_Carrot]

@@justtry5721 but that's contradicted later when he talks to armin at the end. He admits he wanted to carry on and destroy everything, every forest, landscape and all living beings (not just people). He's just angry and mentally unstable. Reiner was right. Eren was the last person who should have that power.

[@dubhbubonem6561]

I'm going to be real with you girls without being specfic on why I am being real because it would be heavy spoilers. I have spent a lot of time in this fandom. And unfortunately, the loudest ones are the ones who think they are right because they are the loudest. I had lost hope that anyone could see this story and not be blinded by their own arrogance. But you two. You two singlehandedly make me have hope again that it's okay to love this story. It's okay it's my favourite and I am not wrong or "stupid" for that. The two of you have given me hope like that again. And from the bottom of an Attack on Titan fan's heart, thank you.

[@Infiny92]

Thank you too for saying all this.

[@raquellawlitet2992]

Man pls it's absolutely okay to love aot. Just because speedreaders hate it doesn't mean it's wrong to love it?

[@dubhbubonem6561]

@@raquellawlitet2992 Nah, I know. It's less that I don't think it's okay and more it kind of takes the fun out of it when everyone keeps telling you you're wrong.

[@connorkenway09]

Heyo no spoilers there. But truly they do get it. I came for the cute girls but stayed for the analysis. They freakin get it. Though I'd argue things aren't as simple as "what Eren does is more evil cuz more people outside Paradis". Both sides wish to commit genocide on one another out of fear that they'll be killed if they don't so both are tragically right in their desire to stay alive. Even if you are guilty of having started it. AOT is the ultimate lesson about war. It reflects perfectly how we justify evil based on past attrocities so we can seek revenge and cause them in return.

[@dubhbubonem6561]

@@connorkenway09 I never said it was a case of being justified, I said it was a case people unironically think Eren is the hero in this situation and treat the Jaegerists as such too. Wanting to stay alive is all well and good, but Floch is essentially leading Paradis down the EXACT same path that led to the Great Titan War.

[@gregovaromoreno6318]

Just thing as curiosity. Ymir tree is based on Ysgasrill the tree of worlds from Norse mythology. And there's a cool detail. The myth said that a serpent bit the roots and falcon destroys the branches. Some short of competition to see who destroyed each other first. The creature that contact Ymir has serpentine form, and what's the symbol of the Survey Corp? A pair of wings

[@RapRapKun]

I wonder where Falco comes with all of these, him being the Jaw Titan and all.

[@baphometwingsof666]

Yggdrasil is the tree of life. It is frequently referenced in Scandinavian folk songs and metal. If you wanna watch an anime about Yggdrasil, you should watch Mnemosyne.

[@dmvb22]

Prediction: Milena will say "my babies" or "my children" and Lola will cry

[@Jozaaaa]

The my babies shit is so annoying and not at all endearing as they seem to think

[@craig5169]

@@Jozaaaa let them enjoy the characters in their own way ffs

[@saseb1060]

@@Jozaaaa and you are still here 10 min later they posted the video

[@djflapjack4744]

Don't forget the speaking in Serbian

[@Jozaaaa]

@@craig5169 if your way of “enjoying a character” is to constantly infantilize them then no I won’t let you enjoy those characters lmao

[@johnnytsu9011]

Checkout this beautiful foreshadowing in storytelling: The flower in Ymir's memory at 19:54 & 22:38 is also a reference to AoT’s first episode. You see, when Ymir was trapped between worlds for 2,000 years, she kept trying to "send" her memories to the Eldians (instinctively), seeking a call for help (The flower with blood on it was one of her memories - obviously, since she experienced it). But no one responded, cared, or paid attention to the signs. Only Eren listened (1st episode, Eren wakes up, and there’s a peculiar image of a flower with blood on it in his thoughts). After Ymir called for help for nearly 2,000 years, Eren was the ONLY ONE who had the will & resolve to find her..

[@berketozlu]

Your analysis about Eren's personality is so correct, as a manga reader, I say you probably understood Eren more than any youtuber I watched..

[@navneeth729]

Here's an interesting conversation from Pixis and Erwin from one of the earlier seasons which I thought was interesting; Pixis: I once heard a song that someday humans will stop fighting, but when will that be? Erwin : Humans will continue to fight one another until the day there's one human or less. Pixis: I was hoping for a better answer than some bleak hyperbole.

[@TheMrjxam]

It feels like I’ve been waiting 2000 years for this one. Edit: Also for anyone wondering the creature that came out of Erens neck and attached to Ymirs spine is a Cambrian lifeform called a Hallucigenia, which lived 500 million years ago, during the Cambrian period. It was discovered in the Burgess Shale in British Columbia Canada. The Burgess Shale is known to us as the ''Origin of life'' due to the vast biodiversity fossilised in it. All lifeforms on the entire planet comes from it. We could say Ymir ''came into contact'' with the Origin of Life/ Titan life through the Hallucigenia. Credit to Asif on another reaction video for this comment. Just thought it might help a few people.

[@K41Z3RR]

It's just shape, just the appearance and nothing more, for the creature from the episode. Most of it - Scandinavian mythology. There existed a substance, Eitr, which according to legend is the source of all life - the first giant Ymir was conceived from Eitr. That's what inspired Isayama. I understand the creature from the episode as a kind of embodiment of this myth in a form accessible to awareness (perception).

[@TheMrjxam]

@@K41Z3RR Mixture of both so, thanks for clearing it up Sergei!✌🏻

[@yuichiroueno5347]

one thing I would say: The Burgess fauna represents origin of “animal”, not origin of “life”. The point is predator-prey relation is originated from the appearance of animal in the history of life!

[@mmor7380]

Eren say all the right things The first king say you will do this for eternity Eren said I will put an end to this Zeke said obey me Eren said you have a choice The only one who see her as a human instead of a slave that have to obey others

[@tulip135]

It looked like actual hell once the rumbling started, I'm literally terrified for what's to come lol

[@TheSteiner12]

Trust me you dont ☹☹☹

[@jonathank786]

Fr the red tint in the sky completely changed the mood

[@lilmupp875]

Watching these girls is a blessing really. I watch like 20 different reactions waiting for these guys to upload. But it’s only when I’m watching them I get emotional enough to cry

[@ArkBagas]

Fun fact: when season 2 was aired back in 2017, the manga is currently still on the Return to Shiganshina arc. To be precise it's the part when Eren & others recently recover Grisha's notebook from the basement & then read it's content. Meanwhile the manga chapter this episode was based on wasn't released yet up until 2019, aka two years later after season 2 ended. So you can imagine how confused both anime only viewers & manga readers are when they saw season 2 ending credits, especially with all those creepy imagery they showed w/o any context provided.

[@Amerit9]

25:34 milena almost having a stroke there glad she is okay 😂😂😂😂

[@lelouchvibritannia3647]

armin definitely knew the extent of erens plan, he was just trying to convince himself that it wasnt true

[@galkastelic8906]

*FOR MANGA READERS* I'm so amazed, these women just predicted most of the final chapter??

[@jnktae]

which just further proves that the ending makes sense and i don't get the hate around it

[@christalv9242]

The most logical ending indeed

[@bubalsearcher34]

@@jnktae Everything makes sense except Eren's sudden romantic love for Mikasa AND the fact the black hair lady said: It Is very unrealistic that no one of the alliance dies in the final battle. I mean, I'm not even an Erehisu fan, but Eren loving Historia made more sense because if you think about it, Eren rejected Zeke's plan of making a little-scaled Rumbling in order to keep Historia away from inheriting Beast Titan: He litterally preffered to trample the world before sacrificing her.

[@brtn3231]

@@bubalsearcher34 no they're not make sense.Eren literally asked Mikasa what am I to you? There was a lot hint about his love for her. Eren just warned Historia about military and he just doesn't want her to obstacle for his plan.Cause if she gets titan military would control her. Contrary to what the anime shows, Historia didn't have much of a power over government. She accepted the queenship because of Levi anyway. In order not to make Levi look bad in the anime, they made Historia look like a promising queen. But in fact, She was in a position to fulfill the wishes of the army. You can tell this from the fact that she initially accepted Hizuru's offer. Because it was military wish.Eren did not make Historia a Titan because this situation spoiled his plan. Not because he's in love.This was obvious, but Erehisu fans have poisoned the fandom for almost two years with false information that Eren is the father and is in love with Historia.And people believed this misinformation to be true more than the events in the story.It's a psychological situation, like if you keep calling someone stupid all the time, they'll eventually accept it as a fact even if they aren't stupid.Erehisu ship was like that .it didn't make sense but some people called that it make sense and people believed.

[@Jumaoli]

1:12:00 i agree. People were saying Isayama made Armin dumb in this episode. I think he was in denial of the worse, otherwise It would've clicked imediatly

[@khotunkhan3950]

Armin always knew bro Always suspected it He also knows his best friend is a bit unhinged but he still saw his good side refusing to look at the badside and didnt think much about it

[@frnklnc_]

This channel has to be one of the most anticipated reactions whenever an AOT episode comes out, I love it!

[@muhammadaashirkashmiri6219]

Reaction starts at 14:03 but my fellow men of culture… listen to the whole vid..

[@ashikshaikh7861]

Na bro people like me actually listen their whole preview and review cuz they are one of the reactors who actually understand the story

[@muhammadaashirkashmiri6219]

@@ashikshaikh7861 that’s great and that’s what I do too and what I encouraged too 🥲👍🏻

[@Gonzalouchikari]

Welcome to another episode of "Isayama pay my therapy!" 29:32 this is the face of a PTSD veteran.

[@204154529]

When you discover that Ymir has to make all the titans, you realise why their shapes and forms are so imperfect.

[@Ahmed-jx9ho]

Just to clarify something In ymir backstory the eldian did cut her tongue and also the people in her village too as she was standing waiting for her turn and somebody pushes her

[@sharkbait3546]

Their hysterical laughter at 30:45 was so funny lol

[@carloregalado7751]

Milena is a Goddess. that laugh is everything.

[@deanwinchester2685]

Y'all have to agree this is the best aot reaction channel.

[@nikhildubey8337]

By far

[@Pedro-sq6gq]

facts

[@hawkxlr]

Except filmbuff

[@leonardohenrique5172]

The normies have good AoT reactions as well, although they are kinda dumb sometimes lol

[@nikhildubey8337]

@@leonardohenrique5172 True lol...Suraj and chris are the only ones i like

[@shakeriacantrell44]

Im glad that her backstory was addressed, and honestly what a tragic character. I honestly don’t blame Ymir for helping eren destroy the world Ymir was given nothing but shit her entire life and beyond that, poor thing . Eren grabbing her was probably the only form of compassion she ever felt from someone else. I hope that eren achieved his goals so that his people can be free and Ymir can be free too

[@handzar6402]

Lol smh.

[@dubhbubonem6561]

Sympathy for Ymir is all well and good, but I don't think Eren wiping the slate clean of all life is going to do anything for their freedom or for Ymir's when everyone who treated her like she was less than dirt are now dirt themselves. 2000 years dead. Basically I'm saying, is it really the world's fault, or, the people who inheret it now's fault and do they deserve to die in such a horrific way ?

[@lucianoferreyra9388]

yo siempre insisto con esto de que el mundo de attack on titan tiene un contexto donde el mundo es cruel ,pocas personas van por lo basico y dicen eren es el villano ,eren es el malo etc (son muy pocas estas personas basicas) y se olvidan del contexto y de la historia ,aca hay un contexto claro que es que el mundo quiere exterminar a los eldianos o usarlos ,eren siempre amo a su gente y siempre busco la libertad ,es obvio que va a estar enojado por las cosas que dice frieda de que los eldianos tiene que morir porque el mundo y marley lo desea ,porque deberia a esperar sentado a que los maten por un capricho de ellos ,eren por lo menos formo por asi decirlo una situacion en la que pueda elegir pelear ,zeke en este caso iba a seguir exclavisando a ymir para darle el gusto al mundo y no darle la opcion de que los eldianos pelean por su vida ,acordemonos que en la season 4 part 1 eren y paradise buscaron varias maneras pacificas para arregla esta situacion con el mundo pero el mundo queria que los eldianos sigan siendo la semilla de la maldad y una amenaza ,por ejemplo eren sin hacer nada ya le estaban declarando la guerra un eldiano con mucha influencia que era willy ,osea la invasion a paradise se iba hacer pase lo que pase ,aclaro que con esto dicho no justifico ni apoyo a eren porque hay gente inocente involucrada ,es entender la historia y el contexto ,yo siempre digo y pregunto de verdad crees que eren haria esto si le dieran la garantia que a los eldianos les den la libertad y los derechos que se merecen ? por asi decirlo siempre hubo una fuerza que es el mundo que insistio tanto en que paradise es una amenaza y lo desearon tanto que se hizo realidad y se convirtio en una fuerza que es eren ,osea si no entendes a eren que no signifca que lo apoyes entonces no entiende nada de la historia ,por ejemplo de lo que dijo que si alguien le intenta arrebatar su libertad ya sea porque lo quieren matar o exclavisar entonces el lo haria primero ,esta regla se aplica solo si alguien lo hace primero a eren ,durante toda la season 4 se lo vio triste y sincero a eren ,todo lo que le dijo a reiner a falco era lo que sentia pero a su vez estaba triste de porque esta pasando esto ,lo que le dijo a ymir ,el realmente estaba triste por la situacion de ella y todo lo que le dijo fue sincero ,nunca le ordeno que le su poder ,siempre dijo prestame o ayudame ,porque esas son las conviciones de el ,le dio un poco de amor que nesecitaba ymir con ese abrazo y esas palabras ,eren es consciente de lo que va hacer ,en ningun momento esta orgulloso ,ni arrogante del poder ,por algo esta solo ,alejo a todos de el ,insisto que no hay que justificar ni apoyar ,lo mas importante es entender la historia y el contexto ,estoy seguro que si no estuviera todo este problema ,eren y mikasa viajarian por el mundo a conocer y disfrutar su libertadle dio un poco de amor que nesecitaba ymir con ese abrazo y esas palabras ,eren es consciente de lo que va hacer ,en ningun momento esta orgulloso ,ni arrogante del poder ,por algo esta solo ,alejo a todos de el ,insisto que no hay que justificar ni apoyar ,lo mas importante es entender la historia y el contexto ,estoy seguro que si no estuviera todo este problema ,eren y mikasa viajarian por el mundo a conocer y disfrutar su libertadle dio un poco de amor que nesecitaba ymir con ese abrazo y esas palabras ,eren es consciente de lo que va hacer ,en ningun momento esta orgulloso ,ni arrogante del poder ,por algo esta solo ,alejo a todos de el ,insisto que no hay que justificar ni apoyar ,lo mas importante es entender la historia y el contexto ,estoy seguro que si no estuviera todo este problema ,eren y mikasa viajarian por el mundo a conocer y disfrutar su libertad

[@thenailgrays]

Some people scoff at Ymir asking why she continues to serve the King after gaining godlike powers, it's called learned helplessness. Look at her in front of the king sitting as if she's been shackled but there are no chains.

[@jonglory6983]

The terrified look that you guys had during the crumbling of the walls is so accurate and reflective of the horror that the characters themselves were witnessing. Such a great reaction!

[@MalcolmJones-bossjones]

This is one of the best reaction channels I’ve ever come across ! Subscribed ! 🔥

[@longinator438]

15:04 "Zeke's story is the most tragic one." Ymir enters the chat. Edit: 23:32 Lola agrees.

[@EzraGenesis1]

Always nice to hear Eren declare genocide on the world and then that outro song plays to really let you think about what just happened.

[@the_crypter]

Erwin : 'How do we know that no humans exist outside the walls ?' Eren : 'I will show you how.'

[@aryankumargwal1950]

Zeke: I have the most tragic past in the show. Ymir Fritz: Hold my pigs.

[@matiaspereyra9392]

Eren: you want me to go along woth tgat messed up plan? Sterilize everyone and threaten the world with the rumbling so we can die quietly? Too messed up bro Zeke: what's your plan then? Eren: absolutely everyone outside paradis must die 10/10

[@toms1313]

You know shit hitted the fan when it's milena the one looking for physical affection 😂

[@ondrejmachovsky2654]

Its crazy how manga readers were complaining about the ending and the additional pages, while anime onlies are literally predicting and expecting the ending even with the additional pages, viz. their pre reaction discussion

[@jrlombardi5251]

Based on its form, the creature that gave Ymir her powers is a hallucigenia, an actual creature that existed millions of years ago and one of the strangest species that has ever existed. It's described as a bizarre and crazy worm that looked like an allien. Current invertebrates derive from this and the name refers to the enormous increase in biodiversity that occurred for it and how its appearance seemed like a hallucination, Its appearance was so strange that the paleothogues could not believe it was real. It actually is an armored worm that lived in shallow seabeds, like, literally a worm with legs and spikes, and a relative in the evolutionary tree of life (but well ofc, with some fantasy elements since we're in a fantasy story). Reminds of what Krueger said, that Ymir obtained her power doing contact with the origin of life and material.

[@hebronessan6942]

So basically I watch 2 reaction channels, one is 2 Brothers React, where they see everything in a very logical moral, and admire the actions scenes, and then I watch LM Reactions to watch the emotional viewpoints, seeing these 2 perspectives really make my day, you guys are awesome 🔥

[@janep.2214]

Remember when I read this chapter. I was so shocked. And I never stopped being shocked. What a story!