Best Anamorphic iPhone Lens Review - Moment VS Sandmarc Anamorphic

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Finding the best Anamorphic Lens isn't easy. That's why today's review is all about Sandmarc's and Moment's Anamorphic iPhone Lenses. Moment and Sandmarc are one of the best iPhone Filmmaking Equipment manufacturers and there's no doubt that their Anamorphic Lenses will yield the best results. So in this review I'm comparing both lenses, show you the differences between the two systems and teach you how to desqueeze your JJ Abrams like footage.
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@barrywaters6336
@barrywaters6336 2 жыл бұрын
Great review with some points which have really helped me. Trying to get the shot before the light or subject changes is always something which plagues photographers and despite the slower fixing system of the Sandmarc lens the rear cover is an absolute MUST for me. I dont want to capture a shot hurriedly and then find it was ruined by pocket/camera bag dust. Plus the fact that I can use Sandmarc ND or polarising filters is essential. The less obvious flare is also better IMO. As the desired end result is footage quality it HAS to be Sandmarc. The viewer isnt interested in how easy it is to change a lens or keep it clean. They just rate the footage!
@sodajones2576
@sodajones2576 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! Thanks for the insights. I'm still undecided on which one to purchase. I like that the Sandmarc has filter threads. I wonder if there would be a way to better secure the lens so that it's not easily knocked out of alignment?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bobby! I guess the easiest fix would be a piece of duct tape 😁
@legniak1
@legniak1 3 жыл бұрын
The moondog labs anamorphic has a threaded filter mound but its $30
@RivuSouravBanerjeeVideoEditor
@RivuSouravBanerjeeVideoEditor 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, what a great Review and love the way u scripted and presented the video, stranthis is the first time i am watching ur video .. loved it joined ur channel 😊 .. this is Rivu, fellow creafrm India .
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rivu and welcome to the family 🥳🙏
@momentsbyron
@momentsbyron 3 жыл бұрын
Is the sandmarc anamorphic lens is compitable with other 17mm thread case/mount system?
@mayursoni3811
@mayursoni3811 4 жыл бұрын
nice video!!! a question - to de-squeeze the pic, the video shows him adjusting the height of the image to 70%. can we not achieve the same by adjusting the width to a value higher than 100 percent? or is there some specific reason why we adjust the height only and not the width?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
By adjusting the width you'd sacrifice a lot of the field of view and therefore lose one of the two main characteristics of an anamorphic lens. This way you can have the "cinematic" two black bars and a really wide scene.
@EricOehler01
@EricOehler01 4 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in the Desqueeze ratio - I can’t find any reference anywhere to Sandmarc having a different ratio than moment. If you’re correct then it’s like a 2.54:1 and not a 2.40:1 which is awfully unusual. I wonder if they changed the product or something, since their support material seems to indicate that it’s 2.40 and they recommend Filmic for desqueezing.
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
You're right it is 😕. Maybe some of the other users can share their findings here? Anybody?
@ricardotavares7512
@ricardotavares7512 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. I choose moment because is over all more practical.
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough Moment certainly has a wider range of products at the moment 👍
@KaiTiura
@KaiTiura 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought the Sandmarc Anamorphic and seeing this makes me think they really need to update their mounting system to the twist-lock style. It just makes more sense! Of course, I think the softer lens flare is the way to go. The Moment version is just too harsh for most use-cases.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 2 жыл бұрын
The Moment gold flare anamorphic is a great alternative to the blue flare version.
@sambalsamurai9672
@sambalsamurai9672 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I've must conclude that my plates are not perfectly round but slightly elipse shaped! xD :D +1 very nice video and nice comparision between the two! What kind of coating is that on the Moments Lens?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
That took some serious testing 😆. Thanks Sam! I can’t quite follow. What coating do you mean?
@cuuppaajoe
@cuuppaajoe 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Sandmarc is the clear winner imo.
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe for your input! What did you like about it more?
@cuuppaajoe
@cuuppaajoe 4 жыл бұрын
Atti Bear I like it more based on what you said as well. Sandmarc seems to be more natural. But I’m biased as Sandmarc also has an ND filter that fits all the lenses. I haven’t seen a moment Nd filter that works with its current lenses. Thanks again!
@waikitchung
@waikitchung 3 жыл бұрын
Insightful comparison! I am using Sirui vd01 and quite happy with it. I wish I can find an iphone case for it to position the lens better.
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 3 жыл бұрын
Always happy to help 😉. How well does their clip hold up while shooting?
@waikitchung
@waikitchung 3 жыл бұрын
@@AttiBear Their clip holds quite tight, but sometimes I need to reposition it when I accidentally bump into something.
@richardprank432
@richardprank432 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you fo rthe review, especially the de squeeze part... I was so sure smth is wrong and you just confirm it. I'm wondering why Sandmarc still recommend Filmic Pro with the hardware filter.
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard for this incredibly valuable feedback! You are the first viewer to confirm the unusual aspect ratio. I think the most obvious reason is ease of use. Often it's quite tedious to unsqueeze footage on your phone but if you don't edit on your phone it's quite easy to fix.
@Midnighter9
@Midnighter9 4 жыл бұрын
Put ND filter for moment anamorphic, it would be nice.
@dr.0ne322
@dr.0ne322 4 жыл бұрын
What is the thread size for filters of sandmarc ? I've tried getting adapters it's not 39mm
@xj3130
@xj3130 4 жыл бұрын
dr. 0ne i think it’s 40.5mm
@primetimedawg431
@primetimedawg431 4 жыл бұрын
I bought an Ulanzi Anamorphic lens and a Moment case for my Galaxy S8+. Is their a conversion piece that will allow my Ulanzi lens to fit the Moment case?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
That's the thing with Smartphone Lenses, there are no adapters (at least I know of) for all the different brands. Also the reason why I like Sandmarc and Lemuro, is that they both offer a clip for their Lenses
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef 2 жыл бұрын
Still a great review, 3 years later (!), also prefer Sandmarc for ease of using filters and more muted flare. Q: (anyone...) all of these lenses seem to produce very noticeable softness and blur around the corners, any of them better than others at edge-to-edge sharpness, or does it just depend on the sensor, etc.??
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the positiv feedback 😃. The Anamorphic Lenses in general produce quite the soft image in the corners. It's the same with bigger cinema anamorphic lens, however the softness is amplified by the small sensor on smartphones. Therefore my tip would be to make sure you are filming with the lowest possible ISO to minimize additional artefacts and noise
@elainecanals7739
@elainecanals7739 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! I need some help figuring out whether I should buy an additional external lens to shoot real estate videos with my iphone 11 pro max. I have a dji 4 gimbal, rode wireless microphone for my short appearances in the video, and filmic pro app. I really like the flare added by the anamorphic lenses, I am considering whether I should buy the moment anamorphic lense blue flare. I dont like the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen though. Do you suggest I get any more gear as far as lenses go? Thanks for your help and for all the tips in your videos!
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Elaine, sounds like you already have a great setup. If you are going for an artistic style in your videos anamorphic lenses can be a great tool, especially of their wide field of view. however they are only sharp in the center of the image. I'm not sure if that's something you want to have in real estate content. If you still want the look and feel of anamorphic, you can go ahead and crop away the black bars.
@elainecanals7739
@elainecanals7739 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think I'll just use my iphone for now and first try to get as good as possible with what I have. All the best! 👍🏼
@dennisgarcia1183
@dennisgarcia1183 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, witch is you favourite normal lens and filter for iPhone? I have an IPhone 12
@4KThemeParkVideos
@4KThemeParkVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison of the two lenses! I went with the Sandmarc myself. Yes, I wish the case was a bit more robust and I find the screwing on of the lens a bit cumbersome at times. I am however very interested in the anamorphic lens filter/caps that you make! Looks like they give off nice flares! So how can I get a hold of them? Thanks!😃👍🏻
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback 😃. Yeah that's true they need to work on their supply chain.
@HQProductions
@HQProductions 4 жыл бұрын
4 months later how do you feel? Trying to make a decision between Moment or SandMarc lenses
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly would go for Sandmarc. The way how their lens renders flares in my opinion is way better and pleasing. I heavily used their lens in my recent review of the Sandmarc Filters kzbin.info/www/bejne/eITWpmeNiNdpo80 and the Osmo Mobile 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWe2nYNol9d9qrM maybe that footage will help you decide
@brandonchenyl
@brandonchenyl 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any issue in desqueezing SANDMARC anamorphic lens footage using moment pro app?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Yes there kinda is. The Sandmarc Lenses use different non standard aspect ratios. Therefore your Footage will still be a little bit squeezed but it's hard to spot. Most people won't notice it 😉
@improvementTime10.3.17
@improvementTime10.3.17 3 жыл бұрын
7:20 sand Marc was 1.43 = longer than normal but basic desqueezinng doesn’t work...in filmic 7:10
@mrrbb2028
@mrrbb2028 4 жыл бұрын
It’s good that you still point out the negative points about sandmarc product. I really like sandmarc but the mounting system is not as good as moments and that was why I chose moment. It’s quicker and safer. Top review
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Well in my opinion it's important to also shed light on the so good aspects of a product. Otherwise it's not a unbiased review 🤷‍♂️😁
@GoapprStudios
@GoapprStudios 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Moments anamorphic lens now since they released it plus you have to buy the back lens cover plus buy the flang to add filters that are all extra so Moment product gets real expansive to use. The new Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max thin case is so weak the lens moves all over the place so only buy the Moment filmmaker or photos case not the thin case. We pre-ordered the new cases for the Samsung Note 10 plus and the Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max September and we have just revied them both in December. So we have moved all of our cell phone content over to the Beastgrip and Beast lens and yes they have a pro version anamorphic too so no matter what the phone manufacturers do with there cameras position we can use the BeastGrip anamorphic lens because the BeastGrip is adjustable to whatever phone you have. Beastgrip also has an adaptor for the DSL lens to your cell phone too that is way cool with a huge depth of field. Plus its fun to put a very large canon cinematic prime lens with a battery-powered remote focus motor.
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for this piece of information. I wasn't aware of BeastGrip. The situation with the cases in my opinion is the most annoying about every manufacturer. At least Sandmarc gives you the option to use their Clamp. All others don't have anything decent in that department. Thanks again I'll take a look at Beastgrip.
@GoapprStudios
@GoapprStudios 4 жыл бұрын
@@AttiBear This afternoon on our social media we will be posting some photos of how we set up the BeastGrip with the new Rode VideoMic NTG nic setup for an upcoming video shoot.
@Andy_Arkadata
@Andy_Arkadata 4 жыл бұрын
say for iphone x, what would switching the lens to the other camera do?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
You can use the lens on both cameras. With the iPhone 11 Pro for example you can't use it with the wide angel camera
@Andy_Arkadata
@Andy_Arkadata 4 жыл бұрын
Atti Bear what about the iphone with the two cameras? What would it actually do?
@Ha1frican
@Ha1frican 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone actually tried using the Sandmarc lens with the moment app? I would much rather have that lens but have to use the moment app since filmic pro doesn’t work with my DJI Osmo Mobile 3 and I don’t want to have to desqueeze in post bc I don’t have the experience to know how it looks correctly without seeing it on the screen
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
I actually tried it. You can also record in the moment app. In most instances people won’t be able to tell the difference unless you are recording symmetrical objects. But even then most people won’t care so you should be golden 😁.
@Ha1frican
@Ha1frican 4 жыл бұрын
Atti Bear what’s the issue with symmetrical things is it warped?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
No it’s not warped it looks like someone squeezed your image left and right towards the middle
@ElfKazuya
@ElfKazuya 4 жыл бұрын
Does this mount to a beastcage pro?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not. Moment and Sandmarc Lenses use proprietary Mounts
@fasolaru8674
@fasolaru8674 3 жыл бұрын
Please respond me,where to buy case for Iphone 11 Pro Max for Sandmarc Anamophic lens,please.
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Fasolaru, your easiest way is to check the Sandmarc Store directly.
@markkronenberg7591
@markkronenberg7591 3 жыл бұрын
Sandmarc sells the upgraded case for $29 at their website. I got mine for free because the one that came with my wide angle lens broke after just a few weeks. Contacted Sandmarc customer service and they asked for a picture of the broken case and sent me the pro version for free. I think they know the basic one is not very durable.
@wayneread1534
@wayneread1534 4 жыл бұрын
hi you say you messed around on making Anamorphic lens your self do you have a video on that please my friend please help
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Wayne I didn’t have the time to finish that video yet. But now worries I’ll release a tutorial soon 😉
@wayneread1534
@wayneread1534 4 жыл бұрын
@@AttiBear that would be great if you could my friend
@alarocasineditarviajero395
@alarocasineditarviajero395 4 жыл бұрын
Hey my friend how are you? I bought the SANDMARC one i don’t know about computers or much about phone either you said the it’s problematic to dequeezed videos with the SANDMARC lens instead of the moment lens can you teach me how to do it? Thank you
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, there's a detailed tutorial on how to do that in the video.
@CYPHA420
@CYPHA420 Жыл бұрын
does the case for the sand marc fit in djiOM5 ?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear Жыл бұрын
It does fit better with the newer Osmo Mobile Versions
@aleksejbarcelona6191
@aleksejbarcelona6191 4 жыл бұрын
hi.what would you suggest for cinematic video on my iphone 11 pro max -witch lens to buy (if you got the link shop) thanks
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Lenses is the Sandmarc Anamorphic lens. Comes in really handy at scenes with lots of light sources and reflective surfaces. You can grab it here ➡️geni.us/JOQhB
@RoulianRoss
@RoulianRoss 2 жыл бұрын
You dont sell your DIY lenses ?
@dimitrikatsaros9212
@dimitrikatsaros9212 4 жыл бұрын
Not a lens hood... those two pieces on the Sandmarc are lens caps
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry my bad ✌️
@JLawL
@JLawL 2 жыл бұрын
If you're on Apple, sandmarc hands down. On Android, moment. Sandmarc's warranty is worth more than marginally better photo quality when zoomed in on minute details. Sandmarc's mounting system also won't fall out while you're hiking along trails. Ask me how I know Moment's will 🤬
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 2 жыл бұрын
Moment sells both filter thread and rear lens caps for their lenses. It bugs me that this extra purchase must be made, but it is misleading to suggest that the Moment gives you problems such as rear lens getting dirty in your pocket just because you choose not to buy the rear lens cap. I like the filter thread mount because the same mount works with all Moment lenses. I should also point out that Moment also sells a gold flare anamorphic lens, and while most people seem to prefer the strong blue flares, I actually prefer the gold flare for most shots. It is perfectly reasonable to make unfavorable comparisons based on the gear you are using, but it is not reasonable and misleading to fail to point out that Moment offers solutions to all of the problems you mention. I use Moment because of its ecosystem - various lenses, a much better mounting system, the Moment app, and the wide range of accessories they offer, including battery cases for those days when gathering a group of people to make a larger video project. I also like that they support older phones. I use the iPhone 8 plus, and because I prefer the home button and fingerprint reader, I will keep using this model for a few years to come. Moment gives me a choice of battery and photo cases for my older phone. I like that. And I love that gold flare anamorphic lens.
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 2 жыл бұрын
Is it so hard to look at the publish date of a video before you start accusing people of being bias?! When I released the video Moment had none of the accessories you just mentioned. The whole list if things you mentioned how ever proves that moment as an innovative company proves that they are listening to their customer base and that’s something a lot of companies don’t do. So kudos to Moment!
@lobomgmt4956
@lobomgmt4956 4 жыл бұрын
Can you give us some Samsung alternatives?
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
All Lenses are available for Samsung Phones too. You just need to grab the lenses with a Samsung case. They'll work the same way.
@lobomgmt4956
@lobomgmt4956 4 жыл бұрын
@@AttiBear thank you! Are there third party sellers for the cases! Your videos have been very helpful on my journey!
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
I'm more than happy to help 😉. As far as I know there are no 3rd party cases for any of the Lenses out there. Is there anything else I could help you with?
@lobomgmt4956
@lobomgmt4956 4 жыл бұрын
@@AttiBear thank you Mr. Bear :)
@xpez9694
@xpez9694 3 жыл бұрын
all that matter is best picture. all that other stuff is sacrifice to get best picture.
@elliotstern8582
@elliotstern8582 2 жыл бұрын
Sandmark
@iBuLas
@iBuLas 4 жыл бұрын
I really like sandmarc offer but the fact that your lens was with another ratio disturbs me
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone else would like to verify the ratio here. Anybody❓
@digitaleastcoast9075
@digitaleastcoast9075 4 жыл бұрын
I think the clips for lense is genius because I will not need to buy the new cases for the new phone..
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. It's one of their biggest advantages.
@zer0K0000l
@zer0K0000l 3 жыл бұрын
Moment anamorphic at night 😎
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 3 жыл бұрын
those tasty lens flares 🤤
@SabrinaVideo
@SabrinaVideo 4 жыл бұрын
Better Ulanzi and cheaper. ; )
@SteveInSunnyCA
@SteveInSunnyCA 3 жыл бұрын
Why go to the trouble and expense of using an anamorphic lens, which can twist and warp the image, when you could use a wide-angle adapter, and crop the top and bottom for the anamorphic aspect ratio? In either situation, you’re getting the full horizontal resolution of the camera, and software is throwing away the top and bottom to give you the wide/short aspect ratio.
@bankersbaux
@bankersbaux 3 жыл бұрын
False
@JoeShapiro
@JoeShapiro 3 жыл бұрын
The twist and warp of an anamorphic lens actually feels good to viewers. That's why Hollywood still uses them. The frame has a subtle motion ripple through it that makes the footage feel more alive. Less important is that the anamorphic squeezes the image so it uses all of the sensor. The cropping happens in the desqueeze which is after the capture so there's more data in the capture. And then there's those cool flares - which you can fake in post but organic is always easier and more lifelike.
@Teadrinker710
@Teadrinker710 4 жыл бұрын
Moment can have filters
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
True they recently released a bunch
@prateexen
@prateexen 5 жыл бұрын
Moment lens is more easily available
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 5 жыл бұрын
That's actually true. Sandmarc should work on that.
@EricOehler01
@EricOehler01 4 жыл бұрын
I had the opposite problem - moment was backordered and Sandmarc wasn’t, and I was on a time crunch so I ended up with the Sandmarc. I wonder if they use similar suppliers for raw parts or something. Seems like luck of the draw as to who has what in stock.
@jeevanhops
@jeevanhops 4 жыл бұрын
They both are not perfect. May be buy them after they are perfect
@AttiBear
@AttiBear 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I learned over time, nothing in life is ever perfect 😁
@parappaboy7352
@parappaboy7352 4 жыл бұрын
Atti Bear Best quote of the day for me . can be applied in life !😎👍🏻
@EDDIEG.AAG18
@EDDIEG.AAG18 2 жыл бұрын
It’s supper annoying that is super easily to knock it out of alignment. They should make a better form of anamorphic len. Don’t buy it cause you will have a lot problems with distortion on your photo and video.
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