Attila vs Aetius: How the Huns sealed the fate of the Western Roman Empire.

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[@michaelporzio7384]

Thanks Maiorian! Always fascinated by the fact that Aetius and Attila were buds at one point. One of the great unanswered questions of history, what exactly did Pope Leo say to Attila? Ironically many Hunnic mercenaries later served in the Eastern Roman army. Grudging credit to Attila, without him the Hunnic Empire dissolved pretty quickly.

[@carloshurtado955]

Why Honorius couldn't be the Honorius from my total war campaign??😭😭😭😭

[@halsnyder296]

I may be wrong, but I seem to remember the Huns moved west because a climate change caused by a volcanic eruption. The change caused a decline in fodder for horses so they lost power and had to move… I probably have them mixed up with the Mongols… I’m sure someone will set me straight! Love the channel!

[@Maiorianus_Sebastian]

Hi Hal, I don't exactly know why the Huns started moving westward, but climate change might indeed have played a role, it's very speculative and difficult to reconstruct, but of course it might be possible. Thanks a lot for your continued support, Hal :)

[@darthwizzywizard]

It actually is a fracturing theme. There is archaeological evidence that directly supports this. It happened several times at least in one degree or another. The mongol rise was direct result of this. There tribes were less effected comparatively to its near neighbors or abroad. Europe and the rest of the world were suffering from the plague as well.

[@TonyFontaine1988]

Not everything is climate change

[@MattieK09]

Huns moved west because they were pushed west.. same reason why the Germanic tribes moved west … they were pushed

[@aztecaddress6356]

@@MattieK09 A historical fiction novel that I read say that the Huns were pushed west by "Qin regiments", at least that's what it says in that novel. Could it be that Ancient Chinese offensives against the northern nomadic tribes could have pushed the Huns westward?

[@kriskris998]

Great video again! Everything started in 375 when the Huns crossed Don river and attacked the Ostrogoths and this was the beginning of the end for the Roman Empire

[@TetsuShima]

Flavius Aetius: *Defeats Attila the Hun, the greatest threat Rome faced since Hannibal, thus saving the Roman Empire* Valentinian III: "So, anyway, I started stabbing. My wise uncle Honorius would be so proud..." 🥲

[@larsius5120]

Thank you werry much for this great video. As an amateur historian who is interested in late antiquity and in the great migration period, i must compliment your work on this channel! You show me aspects that Huns were really so primarily involved in the destruction of the Western Roman Empire. But the relationship between the (two halves of the) Empire and the Huns was not negative all the time! And you didnt mentioned, that Imperator Marcianus also send reinforcement troops (Auxilia Palatina) to Aetius in Italy.

[@deuterium1]

One inaccuracy about this video, the Huns did invade the Sasanian Empire and thus did briefly threaten the Levant in 395AD but were driven back by Bahram IV. My reference is Page 114 in John's Man book on Atilla. Also some Huns did fight under Belisarius when he reconquered North Africa.

[@TetsuShima]

11:45 *Fun fact:* In the 1954 movie "Anthony Quinn's Attila", Aetius is defeated and killed while fighting Attila in the Catalaunian Plains, making Pope Leo the only one who defeated the leader of the Huns. It's a pretty interesting "what if...?" movie, to be honest. There is also a recreation of the meeting between the Pope and the Hun in the movie "Sign of the Pagan", which is also a quite good flick

[@GoogleUserOne]

We all know what that meeting was like. The pope showing Atila all of his secret hiding spots for his golds

[@l-nolazck-rn24]

are they on KZbin

[@InAeternumRomaMater]

Considering the fact that Aetius father was an native of Scythia Minor and born there (modern day Dobrogea, Romania) and Flavius Aetius was born in Durostorum in Moesia Secunda (Northern Bulgaria), he might have been a Native Proto-Romanian as they are recorded there by 587 A.D in Haemus Mountains (Balkan Mountains now Bulgaria) in Theophylactus Simocatta Histories written c. 630 A.D which is about 132 years after the death of Flavius Aetius and they are mentioned as the "Natives of the land". His mother was Italian noblewoman. If he was a Proto-Romanian, I am not surprised that he won Battle of Châlons

[@hamsolo5320]

​@@InAeternumRomaMaterWeird comment. So nationalistic lol. "nOt sUrPriSeD hE wOn siNcE hEs pRoTo RoMaNiaN." You Romanian's ancestors were basically ancient Hungarians, who claim descend from Attila and the Huns. So funny that you try to claim his opponent as "Romanian" like yourself but not the one that's more likely to be your ancestor. 😂

[@InAeternumRomaMater]

@@hamsolo5320 You're being a complete hypocrite and you aren't even trying to hide it. There's nothing nationalistic behind my comment. It is nothing knew in historiography that between 5th-8th centuries, around Moesia and the Carpathians Proto-Romanian's are likely to originate. They would still have seen themselves as Roman's in those centuries. But the fact you're trying to portrait a different ethnic group as being descendant from your's, well that's nationalism that Hungarian's can't stop doing.

[@hiddenhidden5339]

This entire story has an interesting question though. What were the Huns fleeing from? What forced them to migrate West? From their heartlands in the central Asian steppe? It cannot have been good for their prolonged health as evidenced by the fatal decline of their cavalry host. A brief fortune overshadowed by their inevitable demise.

[@ACIron-en6ij]

Considering the fact that the Huns were first appear somewhere in the region of the Caspian Sea aka modern day Kazakhstan according to Tacitus in 91 CE meaning that the Huns were mostly Xiongnu since half part of Kazakhstan was part of the Xiongnu then were forced to go the west by other nomadic groups

[@filipecasanova6719]

To me the 3 main reasons for the fall of the western Empire were: -Constant civil wars -Weak Emperors - hyper inflation, and luck of an economic industry, Rome relied to much on slave work, and conquests, when that ended, the Empire fell into economic crisis and never was able to recover. If Rome had another Julius Cesar or a Trajanus, i don't think the Empire would have fell, even with the germanic invasions.

[@LordWyatt]

We really need an accurate in-person series covering the Fall of the Roman Empire. 395-476 (or further) showing the constant civil wars, invasions, sackings, and overall cultural changes as the Dark Ages loom overhead…

[@arvidkoop6738]

Great video keep going! This is a history topic much under appreciated and little documented on KZbin

[@ramseyr2852]

The rise of the Huns, their displacement of the Goths, and the end of Attila are legends in their own right. They involve Game of Throne like politics in the Steppes of Asia, the rise of strange mongrelized nations out of near China, the last extinguishment of European nations in Central Asia, magical swords, prophets, and epic battles across Eurasia. Indeed, the conflagration of Attila, supposedly assassinated by a royal princess of the Burgundians who was is slave concubine and who used the magical sword to do so before finally burning alive Attilas chief comrades and family and herself, is worthy of its own epic movie sagas. The Gothic Hunnic wars far out in the Steppes in the 300s was when this massive migrations began. The shattering of European nations on the steppes by the Huns began the great wandering of the tribes into European peninsula and Rome itself. Anyone reading up on this history will not be bored. It will explain alot as to why the Roman's dithered so much with the Goths and many others banging on their doors, for they saw the Hunnic horde stepping its way toward Europe and undoing all of the barbarian nations. The Battle of Chalons which crippled this Hunnic threat and the subsequent death of Attila ended this threat and stopped the Hunnification of all of Europe. But it left central and Eastern Europe denuded of its population and Rome submerged. In fact, the desire to return to the East and recover their ancient Eurasia lands is what culturally drove Franks, Germans, Vikings, and Russians back into Eastern Europe in later centuries even up until our times. Thus, this rise of the Huns and eventual defeat at Battle of Chalons and death of Attila were truly world changing historical events.

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[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

Some Hun opponents of Attila fled into the East Roman Empire. As part of coming to terms with him, Constantinople handed over the refugees, who were crucified right next to the Roman border! An East Roman who visited Attila's court was appalled by its grotesquely deformed jesters.

[@theblackwholemy]

Just jestermaxx bro...

[@dariusghodsi2570]

I would like to see comparisons made on the hunnic century effecting the other major classical civilizations namely Persia, India, and China. of the three Gupta dynasty India had a very similar situation with the white huns where both sides effectively ran one another into the ground. Persia struggles through their Hunnic crisis but prevails with Khosrow's reforms and then China loses their entire yellow river homeland to the xian bei huns.

[@chris-lk4ml]

Oh and btw... I really(!) like your videos and appreciate your work

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

The Huns and the Roman allies met at the Catalaunian Plains, near Troyes, and fought to a draw. Convinced after the battle by the crafty Aëtius that he held a dangerous position, Attila moved into northern Italy, where the Huns would directly threaten the city of Rome.

[@hattorihaso2579]

They didnt and it was huns and allies

[@me67galaxylife]

Lmao no.

[@marshallsilverstar9636]

Wrong as always

[@daguroswaldson257]

Thanks for posting this. I have watched every video and read every book detail that I needed because I am writing a historical fiction book on the fall of the Western Roman Empire. I call it "The Way the World Ends: A Tale of the Fall of Rome." It is so fun to get my own characters to interact and indeed help to move the plot as to make historical events happen. I personally believe the legends as well as all other factors, but I cannot be sure on why Aetius didn't destroy the Huns after the battle. Majorian is also a major character and sadly, he's going to have a tragic story where he is temporarily betrothed to Valentinian's daughter Eudocia and is in love with her but Aetius retires him and reluctantly, because he's a strong believer in following authority, agrees and is heart broken at the concept. Speaking of which, is your channel named for Emperor Majorian? It looks like the Latin for Majorian. Anyways, thanks so much for this. Gratias mon amicus! Edit: I found out later that Valentinian's daughter wasn't of age yet so there couldn't have been a love affair with Majorian and Placidia. Eudocia was the one who was engaged to Hunneric thanks to Aetius' political and diplomatic manipulation. So Majorian in my first book will get somewhat more of a happy ending.

[@sergioacevedo2254]

I often wonder how differently history would have played out were it not for the Huns moving west into Europe. The Romans no longer had to contend with their centuries-long germanic neighbours, but also peoples from far distant lands that were also migrating towards Roman frontiers. Such a large influx of people would take any empire by surprise, and the fact that the Romans, being in such a weakened state from the terrible economy, civil wars, and famines, lasted as long as they did (and could've very well survived the situation were it not for people like Ricimer) is impressive. What a shame.

[@augustuscaesar8287]

To think... some of the genetics that made Attila the Hun who he was, were passed down to the Magyars of Hungary, as well as Bavarian nobles.

[@InAeternumRomaMater]

And to think that based on the location Flavius Aetius was born and his father, he might have been a Proto-Romanian. I am not surprised that he won against Attila🇷🇴🇮🇹🤜🇭🇺

[@MrDubyadee1]

Thanks!

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[@EraKindak]

Aetius is a legend!

[@InAeternumRomaMater]

Just learned yesterday that Flavius Aetius might have been a Proto-Romanian taking in consideration that he was born in Durostorum in Moesia which had a Proto-Romanian population by 132 years after Flavius death which is documented Theophylactus Simocatta Histories written c. 630 A.D talking about an event in 587 A.D. And his father Gaudentius was born in Scythia Minor which is modern day Dobrogea in Romania where Proto-Romanians also lived. If he was a Proto-Romanian, I am more than proud of him saving Rome of destruction by Huns

[@RecoveringAhole]

To be honest, the crossing of the Rhine, and then Atilla SHOULDVE been the final nail in the coffin of the Western Empire. Aetius just pulled off a Hail Mary - All in and miraculously won… which bought his empire a few decades at least.

[@Veriox22]

thanks for the video i loved it

[@oli1929]

Great video, poor Aetius 😔

[@YasserMaghribi]

The link in description say "video is private"

[@anthonydefex]

Very few images of Aetius from that time. The few are of very low artistic quality

[@Luxington1]

What's tje video source used to show the meeting with Pope Leo at 12 minutes?

[@ALEJANDROARANDARICKERT]

interesting and weird fact: ROMULUS AUGUSTULUS WAS THE SON OF ORESTES, ATTILA ´S PRIVATE SECRETARY

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Its not Aietius its just Aitius. Latins write ai as ae.

[@InAeternumRomaMater]

Ay! He might have been half Proto-Romanian!🇷🇴🇮🇹❤

[@TetsuShima]

Historians: "Nobody knows with what wise arguments Leo I made Attila abandon the conquest of Rome" *1500 years ago* Pope Leo I: "You will make Baby Jesus cry if you invade Rome. You don't want to do that, right?" Attila: "Sniff. You're right. I shall never hurt anyone again..." 😢

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

Bribery probably had something to do with it...

[@leidersammlung6955]

Odd,that you should call Jesus a baby. Neither Attila and Leo could have stood upright,or even spoken a word in His presence. Even YOUR knees will bow, and tongue confess that Jesus is Lord someday. Whether you like it;or whether you do not…….you will not have a choice in the matter.

[@mabeSc]

@@leidersammlung6955 Jew on a stick? Long live the gods of Rome, for they are what they made Europe into the power it is today. You can keep praying and crying to your Levantine god for safety, I will rather make a sacrifice to Mars, as that might actually do something.

[@leidersammlung6955]

@@mabeSc praying and crying for safety? Who do you think you are talking to? Perhaps another minion of this world,or your mom….either way you’re mistaken. I’m already dead to this world, and am just waiting for my soul to leave my body…….safety is only found in the grave,anyway.

[@mabeSc]

​@@leidersammlung6955 Well I can not disagree with you on the points you've made. The issue is that you believe that souls do exist. Dead? Your are still contributing to the world by working, spending and taxes, so while you mark the entire span of your ACTUAL life as done and dead, then wouldn't trying to make some of it as "nice" be a good idea? Just in case this promise of an afterlife and a soul is fake.. no?

[@chadsupporter4093]

You should go to a doctor The "MUHHHHHHHH LEGEND OF POPE LEOOOOOO" is true. That's the reality. That's the main reason Atilla went back. Not because of crops and disease

[@nowthenzen]

In previous iterations of Roman power, the Romans would either first have dealt the Huns a military defeat to prevent them from causing trouble for the Africa expedition or they would have come to a political accommodation, attacked Africa then turned around and gone Hun hunting. The fact they stripped one front to concentrate on a second front w/o creating a favorable geo-political environment first shows the decline of the Empire at that point.

[@buritobr]

Átila vs Aécio. E não se trata de disputa entre o biólogo e o ex-senador mineiro

[@generaltso8278]

What's going on with that little unconquered bit east of Crimea???

[@erinaltstadt4234]

thank you

[@formacionG13]

Edgar be like si quema cuh v8 cuh la mamalona cuh puro takuachando cuh

[@Waterford1992]

0:32 Suevi in Spain should be spelt "Suebi"

[@ThalesGMota]

With Attila’s Campaigns In Gaul Many Emerged in France.Who Would Later Exert A Strong influence On The Franks.

[@fromsupply2superfly101]

But wasn't Aetius super corrupt?

[@MBP1918]

Flavius Aetius was great.

[@chadsupporter4093]

No, he was an extremely bad strategist and commander and you're a troll He let the hunnic army escape

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

😅😅😅

[@velorn8927]

Attila probably turned back from italy due to uprisings in his territory or because of supply problems or the like

[@chadsupporter4093]

No, because of the pope

[@halsnyder296]

Couldn’t find the link to part 1 in the description….

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Don't worry, it will be added later, when the video from Eastern Roman History releases.

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I have updated the description now, here's the link to ERH's video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j52cmnamd9CAh9k

[@rankofmaster9024]

@@Maiorianus_Sebastian it says that the video is private

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

The battle, sometimes known as the Catalaunian Plains (AD 451), was, in military terms, a draw.

[@me67galaxylife]

Why are you desperately trying to claim this in many comments

[@hattorihaso2579]

Nag

[@hattorihaso2579]

It wasnt

[@hattorihaso2579]

@@me67galaxylife because he thinks as a turk he has some connection to the ancient confederacy called the huns wich he hasn't

[@me67galaxylife]

@@hattorihaso2579 yep lmao

[@sperm8493]

Algorithm

[@GoogleUserOne]

@majorianus did you and ERH spend a good amount of time slandering honorius?

[@chris-lk4ml]

"The pope himself" is wrong in many times. But one thing you forgotten to say: There was no pope in 450 AD. It was just the patriarch of rome and like him there was more patriarchs like the ones from konstantinopolis, Alexandria and so one. Later the patriarch claimed the title "ruler of christianity" and called himself the pope. However, the byzantines and later the greeks and russians had a differend opinion. For them its still just a pariarch (with megalomania)

[@chadsupporter4093]

Everything you said is false. You are not to be taken serious. You are to be ignored by everyone. You're a troll. There was a pope since Saint Peter. Jesus made Peter the first pope and the rest is history. There was always a pope. Get your facts straight, clown

[@formacionG13]

Why do barbarians flip tables?

[@laughsatchungus1461]

Bonifatius

[@NapoleonAquila]

Recimer did not attila

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Italians did not defeat the huns, germans did.

[@mau2794]

Herculiani seniores 😠

[@yunleung2631]

So you two divided up western and eastern Roman empires because the topic was too large to handle for one person… Hmm. What does that remind me of?

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Isn't it really impossible for you to offer your video without any political advertisement (or, I'd rather say, political propaganda)? The seconds affected by political propaganda by the EU (in the usual mood of "I'm-the-teacher-and-I'm-here-in-order-to-submit-you-stupid-pupils-to-the-everyday-lesson") is unbearable, indeed. Because of this outrageous fault, the video deserves a severe negative judgement. 👎👎👎

[@giogio173]

Bro wtf

[@GoogleUserOne]

@grantottero Are you kidding me? It’s his gimmick. Go look at the 30 minutes he spends defaming Ricimer for betraying majorian

[@grantottero4980]

@@GoogleUserOne Oh, yes, but allowing that unrequested political messages (which - inevitably - cannot be appreciated by all and are doomed to be controversial) might be (and really are) inserted through the advertisement during the video, leads to the result that all the video is marred and scarred.

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@@sramanakarya The advertisement passed during the video. An advertisement which was not a commercial one, but a message of political propaganda by the European Union in favour of itself. A political message (and a highly, really highly, controversial one, moreover!) disguised as an advertisement. Didn't you understand I was talking (writing) about it? Did you really thought I was complaining about Attila or Aetius?

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