Audemars Piguet Just Copied Grand Seiko...

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Wow we aren't talking Rolex today!! We are talking...Audemars Piguet...ever heard of them?! EVER HEARD OF AP?! Well yes, you most likely have. Are they ripping off Grand Seiko? Well, no. Come on now! However -- will your super crazy rare AP be called the Grand Seiko AP? Most definitely! Also how will LVMH conquer the watch world? Find out today!
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[@hotsung]

The little quip at 4:24 where Michael subtly questions if Christian knows what cockfight is and Christian answering 'what?' is the great comedic timing we all love from this duo

[@brownmcpherson5724]

Reminds me of my gold Patek Nautilus 3700 I sold in 2005 for $15,000 and pleased that I'd made a couple thousand after wearing it for 14 years. Now over $200k.

[@ronp4737]

True.....

[@whatsup4616]

Long live the hype (not)

[@whatsup4616]

I don’t like tourbillons, just don’t like the look of a gaping hole in the dial. I’d much rather have an grande sonnerie

[@ryanjofre]

That was back when it was priced @ what’s it’s really worth.

[@croco1968]

I remember very well the AP tourbillon you had, a special Japan edition with a black dial :) Great watch!

[@samuelburton5576]

Micheal continually shocked by what comes out of Christian's mouth. 😂

[@johnscholl6719]

Y’all are my morning drive to work

[@jmso786]

Those AP dials are Canal St Grand Seiko dials

[@MDchaz]

LVMH owns Tiffany & Co. LVMH is going to have a huge watch presence in the future.

[@rudebeats907]

What happened to the podcast?

[@masterwatch]

and of course you have the success of the Casio G-Shock Casioak and now the new kits you can buy for modding. I think taking design inspiration from other designs is fine as long as it is not just a straight forward copy.

[@dado380]

Casio history are full of hommage ,they started as Seiko hommage brand basically,irony is that Casio Royale which they sold a shit ton is just a blatant copy of iconic G757!!

[@theonewson1987]

Lovely AP however imo there’s a lot going on - the dial, the bezel, the tourb, it looks better when the dial is simple and the tourb really pops

[@theopulentlife889]

Are you guys sure that the AP tourb was being worn by the clerk or was it the owner maybe?

[@frankpentangeli7945]

That's exactly what I was thinking ... there is ZERO chance a guy working at UPS owns an AP Tourbillon. That was clearly a fake. And are there UPS store "owners"? They're just offices with managers, aren't they? In any event, unless it was another customer I seriously doubt the legitimacy of that AP Christian saw in the UPS office.

[@theopulentlife889]

@@frankpentangeli7945 I agree its way out of league, I'd like to visit that UPS 🤣 perhaps he's upgraded to a Patek 😂

[@frankpentangeli7945]

@@theopulentlife889 LOL! He probably wears the AP on one wrist and the Patek on the other.

[@evano8312]

Michael do you know there is a thickness difference from the 2018 and 2021 zenith chromomaster OG??

[@DogMadTwenty]

I could listen to you guys talk about nothing and be entertained. Always look forward to your videos

[@toegunn4905]

Daniel Roth revived Breguet, and then came out of the park swinging to take down his own creation.

[@dimman77]

Problem number one with Zenith is that their designers seem to have a great looking watch 90% finished then screw it up in the last 10% of their work. There's always some little "off" thing that screws what could have been a great design. I think part of the design problem with Zenith is that they relied too much on the Elite and El Primero movements. And when those used subdials (El Primero usually as a Chrono, Elite often with 9h sub seconds) in their design they are WAY too close to the center and on anything bigger than 36mm look incredibly pinched together. If the style cycle swings back to very small watches for men Zenith is well positioned there if they hire a new design team (or whichever manager is "tweaking" it right before production).

[@ericjav3183]

Are they still called AP, or do we just say Royal Oak Watch Company

[@dBsdecibels]

Still pretty new to the watch world, and Breguet is probably my favorite brand. Their guichet and enamel dials are incredible. I wasn't aware of Daniel Roth, but now I am, thank you! They have a similar artistry. Don't know that I'll ever afford one, but I will appreciate them from afar! My mom doesn't do the watch thing. Probably for the best too, because she's a little badass. She has a black belt, scuba dives, chops wood, goes hunting, all in a petite 5',

[@diavalus]

If you’re new into the watch world but already know of Breguet, then you had a good start. There is a female (the one living in the UK) with a channel here on youtube which had no idea about Breguet till recently.

[@StephenMorganCanada]

I hate how we all call it Tag and forget the heritage of Heuer.

[@Adskie]

Missing the podcast fellas 🙌🏼

[@kartelkilla]

How in the world does anyone at UPS have a Royal Oak Tourb?

[@nicolew1316]

The UPS stores are separate from actual UPS employees. They are franchised and the guy may own the store

[@FernandoRodriguez-fj5pj]

That's a racist question. Black people can own APs

[@cleansingserum]

@@FernandoRodriguez-fj5pj 😂

[@johnmonachelli5256]

I'd imagine he simply opened the package and helped himself

[@steelsteez6118]

@@johnmonachelli5256 🤣

[@dimman77]

A UPS clerk with a 6-figure AP Tourbillon? Hmmm...

[@karlgrohmannmusic]

Only in Westfield, where I think you said you live, will you find a snobby Postman. 🤣I grew up in Linden.

[@richardolmos6908]

Hidden tourbillon is cool.. hidden chrono is next level!

[@nathanthebe6497]

The intro aged so well

[@TheRacerRich]

I always think of Tag as a mall watch.

[@JibyJab]

don't forget that lvmh owns tiffany and co, meaning they sell patek as well

[@Mthusiast4life]

I think while the dial is Grand Seiko-ish, the rest really ain't. We also need to bear with the poor manufacturers, as every year they got to bring up something new and it started to really become an super tricky task to deliver everytime. Sometimes our guys go the slippery route ( not saying any names ) but yo 50mm in diameter is very ambitious😅

[@gyrfalcon7332]

I’m paraphrasing here: So you say to guy, hey nice watch. He says thanks, you like AP? You say, yeah I had one those but got rid of it. Sooo who let their manhood swing first? Cmon Christian, that’s such a I’m so cool that I got rid of the watch you’re super proud of maneuver, even if you didn’t mean it. We’ve all had someone do that, whether it be in person or on social media. Doesn’t feel great, but I’m a thin skinned baby man that super really cares about what others think. 😬

[@bradmaytum5309]

I have a Unimatic (LE with Massena Lab) that I bought ~2 yrs ago and have NEVER worn it. In fact I was thinking about selling it recently. Based on Christian's comments maybe I'll put it on the wrist and try it out for a bit.

[@dukes70]

I actually like Unimatic a lot. I have several. Which one is it? They’ve done several with Massena Lab.

[@tom_simons]

I'm pretty sure $70K is the median household income in the United States... pretty wild that the typical LV customer is the dead-ass average person in the US. Not throwing shade at all, but I'd be curious to see if this is totally accurate.

[@SteveFWatches]

LFG finally huckberry sponsors!

[@VersedNJ]

Better watch, Oyster's and vegan oysters will get a cease and desist order and trademark violation from Rolex.

[@mrcom4359]

Tag Heuer is the working man's Rolex. I hope that isn't too offensive to people that think that Rolex is the working man's Rolex. I've been surprised to find that Tag has a Relex-esque notoriety among the blue collar professionals that I know.

[@WestCoastAce27]

I thought Tudor was the working man’s Rolex? 🤣 (or at least for procrastinators like me who thought about buying an R 10+ yrs ago, put it off).

[@mrcom4359]

@@WestCoastAce27 haha honestly, though the watch community isn't like this at all, and probably most of the world isn't like this, but in my boondocks part of the world I've never met anybody in person who has heard of Tudor.

[@QualityTimeWatches]

My boys!!! Giveaway time!?😎⌚️✌️

[@staceygram5555]

True. The vegan didn't 'murder' the oyster. Technically, it was manslaugter.

[@thadpasquale]

This dial isn't new. It was first used on the Millenary line a couple years back I believe.

[@lindboknifeandtool]

Artichokes are hairy and spiky. Inspect one when on mushrooms, it’s not fun. And it’s a flower bud too.

[@francisng341]

cartier tank must quartz or solar? i cant make up my mind...

[@canadianwatchmonkey3992]

Does LVMH still owen EBEL?

[@gniffub]

I paid like 60, 70 thousand, like he is buying a pair of sneakers. 😂

[@will_the_don]

Right? 🙄

[@JoeyJiggles]

AP are the clowns of the industry

[@carlosmaldonado6200]

That is my favorite Seiko dial.

[@constantinbalzer9831]

AP did these kind of dials already on their "millenary philosophiques" four or five years ago, so saying that they copied GS is misleading...

[@blackwood3243]

I wish Grand Seiko would stop coming out with watches so quickly, the way they are doing it really cheapens the brand to me.

[@herbtube7824]

Could that brand be any cheaper?

[@Jabingla2810]

Nice to see Kenickie from Grease has joined the chat

[@azoique]

you know. right? totally.

[@karan956]

In which universe are oysters vegan?

[@papricep6248]

The dials on those new APs are total garbage because they're stamped, not hand carved like GS does.

[@wheremycoffee]

contrary to what you said.. GS dials are stamped and not hand carved

[@RobbyWheelerGuitar]

Yeah GS dials are also stamped. They hand engrave the master template then stamp each watch dial.

[@samuelburton5576]

AP is second to noone in the watch world. Period

[@VersedNJ]

@@samuelburton5576 Second to A.Lange. Tied with Patek.

[@johnmonachelli5256]

Laurent ferrier is up the bracket

[@michaeladams9744]

Oysters are not vegan... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jayoungrn]

if they had a spring drive they would not need the tourbillon

[@cohan.forcer]

What. a. duo.

[@TheExpirimented]

Can someone explain how an oyster is vegan?

[@RobertKusicki]

The vegan tangent 😂😂☠️

[@DW94576]

It’s a joke and also a preference, not misogyny.

[@sylvainbougie7269]

Mansplaining to his Mom, is that a first?

[@BrittPearceWatches]

artichokes are just gross!

[@johnswick7108]

Wrong! Lol

[@AnaInTh3Sky]

Cancelled

[@joshuakaplan5726]

You've never had Jerusalem style then...

[@andrewhennessy9789]

Agreed, but why can they be good (in moderation) on pizza?

[@AnaInTh3Sky]

@@mybrainlikesthings Capricciosa will always be my #1... 😄

[@thepiemaster0933]

$5000 profit isn’t enough? No disrespect but that’s a lot of money

[@hibernopithecus7500]

Not just not enough. Not just a waste of money. But a *complete* waste of money. He seemed sincere, but he must have been joking, right? Right?

[@thepiemaster0933]

Hope so 😮

[@TheSwaggamumma]

Are you wearing a Unimatic, Christian?

[@408stuff]

oysters are not vegan

[@stevelangsdorf7307]

Christian, I'll try to be as polite as possible....... STOP TOUCHING YOUR NOSE 🤧. Thank you.

[@TheSpritz0]

I hate it SO MUCH that I LOVE it!!!!

[@structurescience]

My mom's lovely.

[@WestCoastAce27]

Clickbait title but otherwise solid video. Tourbillion is a rather useless complication.

[@awdturbopowah773]

TIL: Oysters are vegan 😂😂

[@gelmibson883]

Woo!

[@dimman77]

Jesus Christ, you can't compare Roth to Dufour...

[@Rosscotron]

Why you block the swearing out? Who cares

[@gyang333]

Michael, it sounds like you may have trypophobia?

[@300IQPUG]

christians gf tells him not to worry about yung mikey. but he should be very worried

[@EP-yi3gy]

Calling the AP "Audemars Piguet Tourbillon Grand Seiko" A person in Japan and Switzerland are watching Theo and Harris at the same time. The Grand Seiko dial designer starts laughing at the same time the AP dial designer threw up in his mouth. Hilarious. Grand Seiko owns that dial design language.

[@samuelburton5576]

LVMH is just clout chasing, trying to rival the Rolex and PP led Geneva watch show. Yawn for the thirst!

[@theoneandonly7213]

225 dollars for a bloody apron. You Americans are crazy LOL! Or maybe you just have a lot of cash or maybe I don't belong to this channel's audience lol

[@My6216]

Great to see two gay men into the watch world. Keep it up boys.

[@telanos2492]

Guys. Your podcast cries out for attention!

[@m.e.p.r]

First

[@kevinklino3193]

Between the wrist movement and gurgling between these two, this channel isn’t for me

[@samuelburton5576]

Really Michael and Christian? AP VS GS???? really? Really? AP doesn't have to copy anyone! They are worlds above the brand known as GS.

[@MrPolowu]

😂😂😂 Sure, man. Sure 😂😂😂

[@iliasanastasiadis7658]

Yeah, with their one watch design and unreliable movements. 🤦‍♂️