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@Chippie-O2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, let's see, a specialist running a small business through one of the hardest times in history, making videos for our entertainment while keeping quality up for paying customers in a niche industry who feels the need to apologise for not making videos fast enough...I call BS. Mate you take as long as you need to bring us these vids, thank you, because of you my skills and analysis of audio systems has increased tenfold. You've also inspired me to push things on my own build and focus on the quality of my work rather than just smashing it in and calling it done.
@JohnDoe-uu2zs Жыл бұрын
Reading the Audi forums those models are a nightmare for rear shelf rattles
@richardr58882 жыл бұрын
No need to apologize. You do us the favor of sharing your work and knowledge and we appreciate it. Hell, how many years does Netflix make us wait for a 2nd season? Personally, your channel is more entertaining anyway!
@TIPPAH3083 ай бұрын
I can give you the solution for the rear parcel shelf, you removed the spring loaded bag hooks from under the rear parcel shelf, the mounts which are free floating and are not captive where the bag hook mounting screws go are then free to move around in the concealed rear parcel shelf welded sections. There are 4 small metal mounts which are made to sit in the rectangle cut outs are now free to rattle and sound like someone put coins in the parcel shelf. You're welcome. I know this because I removed one of the bag hooks on the weekend and then had to spend an hour fishing out two of the mounting clips with a magnet on a wire.
@ansonmungal3293 ай бұрын
Oh wow! Who knew? This is such a helpful tip. I really appreciate you sharing this. Thank you! 😊
@deeg4n000 Жыл бұрын
These videos are great a true learning tool.
@markbest42307 ай бұрын
Yes, Pete is a GURU! I'm definitely going to be joining the patron soon!!!
@charleshamilton61772 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Goes to show you. Have a budget for installation/equipment. It’s taken me some time over the years to realize that.
@kiklop83622 жыл бұрын
I had similar issue, screw drop behind metal plae....I have sued Neo magne to secure it inside :) Now I have magnet for ages here :)
@andrefallot11532 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, yep experienced the same issue in my 2016 S6. wound up creating a 'figure 8' birch ply brace that bolted to the rear deck after the rear deck was covered on both sides in sounddeadener. Then bolted a layered mdf sub box to the underside of the deck. JL10w3 fires into the OEM location, no rattles!
@ansonmungal3293 ай бұрын
I might use this in my S6. Great tip. Thanks for sharing 😊
@96kylar2 жыл бұрын
God i hate rattles. Hate them. Funny, here in the states, everyone also posts videos of rattles and shit moving to impress people. I am the complete the opposite. I want none. After competing in DBdrag for years, got my ring with a buddy, I've gone completely the other way. Great stuff my guy. You, are on a entire other level.
@chokboywonda2 жыл бұрын
My guess is the rattle is from the rear camera project where someone lost a clip or a screw or fastener bracket that was hot melted to a trim piece has previously dropped down into the cavity.
@mohammedumar6556 Жыл бұрын
As much as I hate rattles, I love your T-Shirt
@keithryan93142 жыл бұрын
Hi: Peter We love your videos and take your time no panic on releasing them neither quality is better than quantity 👍🏻. Wow regarding that rattle nasty for sure. Would it be work if you stuffed that cavity with foam deadened above and below that part of the shelf?
@julesbruchez-theartofgrapp96469 ай бұрын
Spent hours doing the same thing. I made a custom box that outfitted to the rear deck of my Lexus es. I installed a 8” kicker q class tuned to 33 hz. I DID NOT like the way it sounded. I thought for sure the acoustics would have sounded good. I was sooo wrong. It wasn’t bad but just the sound I was looking for. Ended up with going back with two 10” Infinity 1000s sealed
@umtbozkr23582 жыл бұрын
Funny, the box says Steg MT, but the cone material looks very like the discontinued ST woofers. I remember that the MT’s had a Grey cone with wavy surround….
@ealneas12 жыл бұрын
Welcome to my world 😂 this is not that bad. My brothers has a6 c7 and he wanted sub on parcel shelve. I told him that will take long time to do. We end up with 15 inch in the box 😅. He didn't had rattle at the back like in this audi. You lucky it doesn’t got sunroof. That makes some rattle too. Done his doors last weekend. Made them quiet as possible. The door cards aren't built great as they did in c6. Those where strong and solid cards.
@seraphin_creates2 жыл бұрын
nice video!
@smatchimo645 Жыл бұрын
this video is of high interest to me. I have a 16 jetta and the rattles are insane. Funnily enough I can solve my headliner rattle mostly by opening both sun visors so that should be an easy fix... but the door cards are really bad and my components are underpowered and distorting. i have a ported 1.25 cu ft box for a 10 trying to get sub 32 hz so that doesnt help. should i be going to a sealed box at 12 as well?
@keithryan93142 жыл бұрын
Hi: Peter Keith here from lreland. A quick question for Audi's l might be getting an A5 coupe in the future and like many modern Audi's they have the MOST connection can you utilize the helix sdmi25 optical output and optical in to the dsp amp rather than finding speaker wires from the mmi unit ? I am halfway through this video and haven't seen the rattle part yet ☺️
@faridsmart5214 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Am planning to add extra subwoofer and a pair of tweeters with a dsp in my audi A6 c7 bose system. Will the subwoofer sound better with stock subwoofer wires or the door speakers?
@piggymito Жыл бұрын
Have you wired up the processer from the factory amp high level outputs? I've got a c6 at the minute I'm looking to upgrade to a c7 potentially and I'm trying to figure out if I should go stock stereo and upgrade it with my old school alpine gear and a processor or find one with Bose and leave it alone...
@jrwilshire2003 Жыл бұрын
How did you integrate the DSP with the original Audi headunit? Did you tap into the MOST network or just speaker line levels?
@Mark_51502 жыл бұрын
I wonder if filling that cavity with expanding foam would have stopped the rattle.
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
That would be my guess. With the long straw you can put enough to fill the entire area and slightly expand the metal. If the cause is a faulty spot weld, this should fix it.
@chrisN802 жыл бұрын
Peter question. Helix 4 or 6 dsp or helix v eight. Which is better or are they are same when it comes to the dsp. Besides the v eight being a 8 ch amplifier.
@carsandstuff711 Жыл бұрын
Super build! What did you used for the rca ? from the factory head unit ?
@AcidDeathRitual2 жыл бұрын
Install/build is 90% of the game. My subs cost about $200 a piece but play quite loud for such low port tuning. Why, because the box is very well braced and has an efficient port design. I'd have to charge at least $1000 for such a box. Midbass, same. $20 woofers but with the right specs and custom door enclosures. Play 60-300 hz with good level and I didn't have to fight with trying to deaden the whole door and likely have no where near the low end.
@lahiamrd698811 ай бұрын
Buenas noches. Es cierto que los parlantes steg son mucho mejores que Hertz, focal y audiofrong?
@kevinc60732 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any 6x9s that do well in trunk IB for sub duty?
@clementparker50158 ай бұрын
What was use to connect to the factory head unit?
@klubstompers2 жыл бұрын
There is someone on Etsy who sells custom boxes for that side boot area, for about $200, and a company from the UK that manufactures them out of wood for about the same.
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
Probably only enough for an 8” or 10”.
@richardr58882 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The inside of the door is one complete plastic panel, not metal. The plastic door card goes over it. The 6x9 opening protrudes outward not leaving much to grab onto. I made 6.5 plates thinking it provides some reinforcement for the Focal flax woofers. Probably used too much sound deadner if that's even possible and toped it off with closed cell foam. I'm limited to only using the doors for midbass. Is there anything I can do to further stiffen the plastic panel? I think building an enclosure inside the door wouldn't leave enough air space. Maybe different speakers?
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of ways to stiffen the large plastic panels. You could add some layers of fiberglass, along with sections of aluminum angle. You could fiberglass over the top of them to make it rigid. Adding weight is another option such as mixing steel shot or BB's into fiber reinforced bondo. Scuff up the plastic so the products adhere well. If the plastic is ABS you can use ABS cement to bond additional layers of abs to it. Even add 90° strips of abs so it won't flex. You just need to get creative.
@eturnulrs704 Жыл бұрын
Great build, love your content. Is there a site where I can email to get tips on my Audi build.
@pssound9749 Жыл бұрын
Hi, i’m not sure what Audi you have, but we have plenty of content of the follow up of this project on www.patreon.com/pssound, where we share behind the scene content too showing small details too.
@rakeshbalamkar34032 жыл бұрын
Hi peter Is it advisable to use Hi level input for dsp when u keep your stock Head-unit Or use a LOC and then give input yo dsp by RCA cables for better output?
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
Most if not all DSPs have speaker level input, so if that is your main source, then just feed it directly to the DSP without additional items in the chain.
@shean-koklim41972 жыл бұрын
I simply pump foam insulation into the rear parcel to remove the rattling.
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
That doesn’t help if the layers of sheet metal rattle by not having sufficient welding as the car is only spot welded, but otherwise foam maybe a good option.
@davidlunsford61552 жыл бұрын
Good information for me
@bradwarden10502 жыл бұрын
I'm totally surprised that the Audi did not have more factory deadening, if any, in the rear deck.
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t need any from factory.
@sparkofphoenixerlp57322 жыл бұрын
why is the helix dsp pro (10 channel dsp) more expensive then the m 6 dsp wich also has an 10 channel dsp integrated + it is a 6 channel amp? Is there a big difference in output quality?
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
That pro model has a higher sampling rate making it suitable for Hi Res plus higher signal to noise ratios. Also has coaxial digital input. So I would say they are a bit more suited for competition or very critical listening, assuming the rest of the system is top notch. The DSPs in the amps are a tiny step down, but still capable of sounding amazing when set up properly. So there is not a big difference in output quality. Remember that the component costs to squeeze out those extra bits of signal to noise, etc... are quite expensive resulting in a more expensive product. Some very high end dsp cost thousands because they push things to the limit to get that tiny extra bit of quality. Same with speakers and lots of other things. In my opinion those Helix DSP amps are quite the value for your money.
@HxMancia9 ай бұрын
Was the factory signal in this vehicle optical? If so, how did you get that to work with the dsp?
@pssound97499 ай бұрын
No, we had to use the speaker level outputs, which were not terrible, they were okay for the intended use.
@adriandragos64456 ай бұрын
Im wondering about putting 3.5”midrange drivers in the dash. Do you guys build an enclosure in the dash? I know you guys build rings I’m just wondering if I could get away with not moving a bunch of stuff under my dash and making some crazy enclosure under there. Thanks for any help
@pssound97496 ай бұрын
There is no need for an enclosure for a midrange in a 3way configuration when you cross the speaker above 200Hz+.
@adriandragos64456 ай бұрын
@@pssound9749 oh good to know!! That will save me a lot of time
@leedrakeley85832 жыл бұрын
I work at a dealership that has Vauxhall and a lot of dashboards had to be removed because I was told that someone on the production line was sacked and they threw washers into the heater vents...🤔
@TheMizarc12 жыл бұрын
wooooow!!!!
@johndemers71189 ай бұрын
i have a 2016 audi a6 with the bose sound system and the subwoofer rattles so much its insane
@TIPPAH3083 ай бұрын
lift the trim that is covering the subwoofer at the front and your rattle will disappear. its the plastic clips that insert and lock into the parcel shelf cover.
@mixxeerr2 жыл бұрын
Nice haircut😁😀
@charlesbeltington-smythe9229 Жыл бұрын
Expanding foam?
@jitwarsingh16462 жыл бұрын
Just after some clarification, the tweeters in this are in the corners of the dash, closest to the windscreen in this model, aren't they?
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
Yes, under the dash grills.
@farooqali79988 ай бұрын
Hi do you know where the Audi A6 C7 Amplifier located
@aleksiniskanen22996 ай бұрын
I wondering same i dont find that..
@robertdavis48342 жыл бұрын
What is your take on Focal Flax Speakers. Pros and cons ?
@patrikhejnar94952 жыл бұрын
There are better speakers for the price, especially if you are not from Europe. In US, Australia I have seen shops selling these sets for ridiculous prices, 2,3 times more then in Europe. I have older gen of flax 2pc set in my car, out of the box, on class d amp they sound ,,neutral,, i didn't enjoyed the sound a lot tbh, tweeter sounds piercing bright even on -3db on passive crossover. Switching to active and adding dsp helped a lot, but I may replace the speakers next year. I haven't heard the new version of flax, the tweeter has different materials used, may be better
@sainath87102 жыл бұрын
Hi, for my knowledge I’m asking this question. This’s a passive system having a passive crossover in the system, so what’s the use of adding a dsp?
@APinTheAK2 жыл бұрын
Correct, it is passive. The DSP will handle TA and EQ, just not between the Tweeter and Midbass.
@sainath87102 жыл бұрын
@@APinTheAK okay thanks for the information 👍
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
As Adam said, plus it’s also described in the video… 🤷🏻♂️
@bigsteviesri2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter what an install on a budget loved what yous done with the sub as for the rattel what about expanding foam then trim it what's your oppinon on foaming ware it rates do u think I would have been a good idea also is that sped wire u used.. As a audio guy ps sound in America should listen to Paul's channel be right up your street.
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
Hi, Expending foam may stop loose bits inside, but if it’s steel layers just spot welded and those rattle, foam can’t treat that. We used Stinger speedwire. I know Paul & PS Audio, but he deals with home audio. 👍
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
@@pssound9749 The spray in expanding foam should stick to the metal and when it expands it puts some pressure on the parts. So even a broken spot weld will not rattle. If the cavity serves no real purpose why not fill it up? 😀
@JSAFIXIT Жыл бұрын
@@JasonWW2000 I have seen it trap moisture and over time cause rust issues.
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
@@JSAFIXIT I guess it would depend on the climate you live in whether you get moisture build up in a vehicle. I live in a high humidity area and I've only seen moisture in the vehicle if it has a leak and lets water in. Rust holes around the back windows are pretty common. Aside from that, I don't see moisture being an issue.
@JSAFIXIT Жыл бұрын
@JasonWW2000 I live in Wisconsin, so we get extreme temperature swings. It was 90 degrees on a Thursday, and by Friday we 15" of snow.
@picassoimpaler32432 жыл бұрын
Why did you/the client decide to go passive when you are already wired/have the amp channels/have the DSP channels for active? All the tools are already paid for and in hand, so why not? Did it have to do with tuning hours or something?
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
How would you have fully active system with 4 doors and sub on a 6ch amp?
@illestraper2 жыл бұрын
@@pssound9749 Just cut off the rear doors. Id definatelly choose a proper front over this.
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
Clearly shows you didn’t watch the video properly, then you’d know what’s planned in the future and how we prepared for fully active. Not everyone has the budget for ticking all the boxes at the start.
@picassoimpaler32432 жыл бұрын
@@pssound9749 ahh, I missed the rears being in play as well.
@milkman50382 жыл бұрын
My Civic with 15” Fi Audio on 2000rms much more solid lol. I feel your pain Pete then made a job and can’t feel satisfaction..
@hk3827 Жыл бұрын
Did you amp up the standard rear speakers?
@pssound9749 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@lesliemobleaudio80182 жыл бұрын
Instead of using the 12w3, why not use a 10TW1 or 3, since the space into the trunk was an issue? Obviously, it would have done nothing for the rattle, but it would have made the mounting much easier.
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
Sure, but SQ also matters and W3 range is more suitable for IB than the other options.
@lesliemobleaudio80182 жыл бұрын
@@pssound9749 Even if building a small box for the TW3 and mounting under the deck, it would have been either the same, or less obtrusive, into the trunk. As for SQ, he is already sacrificing that. Unless he is a true audiophile, I doubt he would hear the difference.
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
@@lesliemobleaudio8018 yeah, the last thing you forget that it was a quick install. Building a proper box underneath the shelf is not a day’s work and it would definitely take a lot more space away from the boot. Maybe not at the W3’s mounting point, but across the whole width of the boot if you wanted enough airspace for a sub. Then the wedge box we built is still more practical.
@nandorbereczky91272 жыл бұрын
Szia Péter! Budapesten ki tud hasonló instalációt elkésziteni nekem?
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
Szervusz, Talan a legegyszerubb ha csatlakozol az Auto Hifi SQ csoporthoz Fb-on es ott megkerdezed az otthoniakat, mert mar nem vagyok napra kesz.
@teletin012 жыл бұрын
I have an audi s8. Roof is also a problem în this one, it rattles if I crank the volume up. I have the same sub. Also everything is cracking, poping, squeaking inside. The plastic speaker covers resonate, the Mid-range ones. When I climb on the side walk with one wheel for example I have the impression the whole car bends and every plastic trim is making a cracking sound. I freaking hate it. I dont have that în the Mercedes or BMW. Plus speaker location în Audi is shit. Defenetly not a good car for car audio. Road nosie also higher în this vs the s class. Thanks for sharing this Pete! Amazing work, I was really looking forward for this shelf sub location. Too bad you could t go ahead with it.
@pssound97492 жыл бұрын
Yes, Audi is not on my favourite list for audio these days! 😖
@lilflip18202 жыл бұрын
That rattle is maddening.
@neilziesmer61092 жыл бұрын
AIR SAW
@bradysimpson2 жыл бұрын
1 Street
@thegreendoormx44412 жыл бұрын
A good installer would've removed the wooden tray and taken out whatever screw or clip you guys probably left in there.
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
There is no factory wooden tray. Who are you talking about when you say "you guys"? You mean the audi workers who put the car together? I'm not understanding.