Audi B8 S4 - Black Forest Industries Engine Mounts & Transmission Insert Install

I did my best to capture as much footage as I could and walk you through the install of my Black Forest Industries Stage 1 Engine Mounts as well as the transmission insert in my B8 S4. I did my best to get you some good angles of Kyle taking everything a part and then installing the new upgraded parts from BFI. Forgive me if it isn't a perfect guide as we did this one late at night and it took me a while to get to editing the video. If I made any mistakes please feel free to let me know in the comments below so I can pin your comment.
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[@kalebthompson1]

Tech tip, disconnecting the sway bar end links allows a lot more room when lowering the subframe, if it’s needed.

[@kellybrondstater6024]

I am glad I had the shop put mine on 🤣

[@VancityAudi]

Ya, that was a wise decision, haha

[@cheesetoast99]

I had to have the rear upper and lower mounts on my 2008 rabbit replaced, they are pucks that need to be pressed out/in of the subframe. This was one of those jobs where you look up the how to on youtube, see that it needs a $300 special tool to do it without having to take the subframe out or lie under the car swearing for a few hours and killing your back. I happily paid PG Performance $200 to install them for me.

[@brizax]

The stock mounts are liquid filled, when the mounts tear up bad they leak and trip a code/cel for a bad motor mount, BFI makes plug in resistors that trick the ecu into thinking the stock mounts are there and healthy .. I as well have the same BFI street mounts I’m waiting to install here soon, The pass side mount is the usual culprit and takes the most abuse.. as well as being fairly easy to replace - leaving the sub bolted up .. as for the driver side - yeah pita, I’ve read you can loosen the oil cooler and do it as well .. I can’t wait for the follow up video as my b8.5 is my part time daily ! I’ll be doing the mounts “again already destroyed a passenger side stocker in 3k miles” / HX . 3.2 lower pulley , WMi and custom tune here shortly ! Beers and salut :)

[@VancityAudi]

Sadly I didn't realize that BFI sold plug in resistors or I would have grabbed those too. We will be making resistors ourselves tonight to get ride of the engine mount codes we now have.

[@brizax]

@@VancityAudi easy quick fix :) or just code them out the tune ..

[@VancityAudi]

@@brizax I use an OTS tune from IE. I don't have the option of coding them out with the tune. Resistors will work just fine for us. Thanks for the info.

[@cheesetoast99]

I have the BFI stage 1 mounts in my 2008 rabbit. No problems, except the obvious vibrations. Great products.

[@anthonyortiz4538]

Loved them in my MK7 GTI

[@Corbots80]

Another great video. I'm looking forward to the follow up

[@anthonyortiz4538]

Damn I want a sticker of your logo! That image is sick!!!

[@VancityAudi]

Thanks! Order anything off my online store and I'll send you a couple! vancityaudi.com/shop-till-you-drop

[@JustAnotherCar_Guy]

I’ll add my experience with the Stage 2 mounts. They NVH was awful. Compared to even the shot OEM ones, the BFI had a shake at idle that would rattle my door cards. Only time it was bearable was driving. The car did feel super tight tho, it was a big improvement in slop, but the daily aspect was gone with them. I ended up taking mine back out and putting in 034 street density mounts.

[@VancityAudi]

My review video will be dropping within the next week. We'll see if my feedback is the same or different from yours!

[@JustAnotherCar_Guy]

@@VancityAudi I look forward to it, hopefully the stage 1 is bit more forgiving! If mine was a dedicated track or even drag car then I would’ve for sure stuck with the BFI. The quality of the mounts were awesome and the performance factor too, just not the daily driving side of it.

[@crxgator]

I would say you should have went Stage 1. Stage 2 is meant more for track duty.

[@JustAnotherCar_Guy]

@@crxgator BFI had a deal on their stage 2 mounts which were cheaper than their stage 1 at the time hence why I bought them. I know they would be more rough but not that bad. First time with a billet mount so my lesson was learned.

[@crxgator]

To compare them to the 034 a proper comparison would be their track mounts to the Stage 2 though. That’s what I’m getting at. Unless there was an error on the site, the Stage 2 would always be more expensive than the Stage 1

[@tubemeister676]

Adam, so what was the actual install time, from removal of shoot oem mounts? You have the dyi videos I've seen period!! Keep these AWESOME videos coming 😊

[@VancityAudi]

Sadly this video is a few years old and I can't remember. If I had to guess atleast 2-3 hours.

[@RyanQuattroS1]

are the bolts the same size? I know they are tty and you need to replace them everytime but im just wondering if I can go to my local vw dealer and grab the bolts

[@VancityAudi]

We actually used the same OEM bolts.

[@kyleadolph1281]

I thought the plugs were for wear? Interesting that’s cool!

[@wladriazanov7078]

Did you have to replace all the subframe bolts as well? I'm assuming they're TTY.

[@VancityAudi]

We probably should have, but we used all the original hardware.

[@jlucky84]

Hey. Love the content, and the timing couldn't be much better, as my car is in the shop and they noticed leaky OEM mounts. Is there a reason you went with BFI rather than 034 or ECS or other options?

[@VancityAudi]

When I think performance, I don't think ECS. They are more of just a cosmetic and maintenance company in my opinion. I will never use any 034 parts on my car due to their lacking of morals in their business practices. I used BFI mounts on my RS3 and they worked extremely well.

[@anthonyortiz4538]

@@VancityAudi also the fact they deteriorate just as fast as oem,

[@stevenlonsdale1154]

My mk1 s3 is 244k miles. I've been wanting to change the engine mounts since the day I got the car

[@442caleb]

Just finished up with installing everything. Raised the subframe, put the rack back and torqued everything down. I am on the final 14mm motor mount bolt that connects to the motor and it isn't torqueing. Feels like it is spinning forever. Any tips?

[@VancityAudi]

No idea, sorry. Sounds stripped

[@maxgagnon1947]

I did stage 2 BFI engine mount on my b8 and it shake at red light , but the less torsion from going full throttle is really noticeable

[@rantdeville]

Wow, thanks for the insight on increased NVH with that setup. 👍 I was actually curious about that.

[@maxgagnon1947]

@@rantdeville to specify , am unitronic stage 3 with a iabed 75mm TB and all the bushing insert available , I am only missing a rear sway bar replacement.

[@VancityAudi]

@@rantdeville In a week's time or less I'll be releasing my review video on these mounts as well to let people know how they feel.

[@rantdeville]

@@maxgagnon1947 thanks for clarifying. Your car must be significantly more rigid than stock. Did you retain stock springs and dampers or upgrade?

[@rantdeville]

@@VancityAudi looking forward to it. Great content

[@wrxkyle]

how much extra nvh are you getting from the bfi mounts vs like 034 that are just solid rubber instead of fluid filled?

[@VancityAudi]

I review the mounts here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5nGi4ibed9mf6M

[@curtdragon]

Finally!

[@VancityAudi]

Sorry about the wait!!! I was swamped last week and couldn't finish the edit in time

[@curtdragon]

@@VancityAudi now I have to wait for the review lol. I'm getting mine done at a shop and just trying to decide between these and the 034 ones.

[@VancityAudi]

@@curtdragon I'm trying to have the review out by Friday, or Monday at the latest!

[@anthonyortiz4538]

Also thanks for this video

[@VancityAudi]

You're welcome

[@anthonyortiz4538]

@@VancityAudi is it possible to leave subframe and get to mounts on a 13 b8 A4 3.0?

[@VancityAudi]

@@anthonyortiz4538 I have no idea, sorry.

[@skyhookpro]

Nice video. Tell me about engine vibration compare with the old ones? How in overall feel of the car

[@VancityAudi]

I say right in this video that I'll have a review video to follow.

[@skyhookpro]

@@VancityAudi ok i'll wait then tho...Also i have to said that your video are informative and very down to earth. Few month ago you posted a video for data loggin (IE) about a year and a half ago i bought an 2011 A5 quattro (144k miles) ( Im a Dealer tech on one of the largest dealer in south florida) so i have access oh the history of the car i bought...with that said i bought an (IE link dongle/cable) and begin to gather data. I have to said THANKS for sharing you knowledge.

[@VancityAudi]

@@skyhookpro No problemo! I'm very happy I was able to help you out. Thanks for watching and for the support.

[@skyhookpro]

@@VancityAudi that awesome you understand my broken english👍👍👍

[@joserodrigojimenez5027]

Are the only function of those sensors on the OEM engine mounts to contro somewhow the stiffness? Not sure why all other brand mounts have those connectors while the ones you choose to use do not

[@joserodrigojimenez5027]

Also, could you share how long did it take to replace the engine mounts in terms of shop labor? Cheers!

[@VancityAudi]

@@joserodrigojimenez5027 We honestly aren't sure if those sensors do anything else. We figured things out as we went with no instructions or guide so the time spent by us won't be the same for a shop. I think we probably spent 4 hours on it.

[@tariqmohammed8505]

my s4 got a vibaration on idle do you think its engine mounts

[@VancityAudi]

Good be, but impossible for me to tell without feeling it for myself.

[@johnjuarez8005]

Man, a lot of work to change mounts.

[@cheesetoast99]

Please tell me you trimmed off the end of those zip ties on the cables....

[@VancityAudi]

of course we did. We aren't cavemen, lol

[@richardhernandez4372]

My shop recommends the 034 upgrade and they want $1100 installed

[@zerofuckkksgiven8027]

How are these mounts now after 6 months?

[@VancityAudi]

Just as butthole vibrating as 6 months ago, lol

[@richardhernandez4372]

How much did it cost you to change them?

[@VancityAudi]

I think it took us like 5 hours to do the job. It was a pain in the butt.

[@tariqmohammed8505]

what does transmission insert do

[@VancityAudi]

4:45 to 6:00 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5nGi4ibed9mf6M

[@EJR20]

How long’d this take?

[@VancityAudi]

Quite a long time. The driver side engine mount is a pain in the ass.

[@johnjuarez8005]

I have 100K on my 2015 S4. I went through two OEM motor mounts.

[@Icepressa]

Drop the subframe… lol already fucked up, I do these without dropping shit within 2 hours both sides 😂😂😂