Audi S3 vs Golf R - With James & Harry

[@bsfunk44]

Real car guys don't lean against their cars...

[@clu4u]

BSfunk44,

[@clu4u]

BSfunk44, was gonna say, "It must not be their car"

[@bsfunk44]

(You're) the kind of person that doesn't even own a car so shut the fuck up.

[@madrx2]

YESSS! especially because of the studs on the jeans! Scratches the paint!

[@malinkonia641]

Real car guys don't buy audi

[@tnetroP]

Honestly I think the Golf is a better all round package. But I'm about to buy an S3 because I've stared at a Golf dashboard for too many years and fancy a change.

[@MrArchie800]

I think ‘sensible’ people would agree that both cars are fantastic, if slightly different. The less sensible people will insult and argue with those who don’t agree with their preferred choice! For what it’s worth I thought this was a decent review as it comes from the layman’s perspective rather than ‘the professional’s’, which might be closer to the average buyers POV.

[@madmonkey116]

Totally agree, I thought it was a balanced and sensible review... well done gents

[@goons123flofy]

What's the story with the mansion?

[@whyme9630]

TurgBurglar to look rich

[@s13180sxSR20DET]

You do realise the cars sound exactly the same except for the Soundaktor speaker? The Golf R speaker makes it sound similar to the V6 from the R32 where as the Audi one gives a hint of a 5 cylinder sound inside...

[@SwordMasterMike]

I own the 2017 Golf R (US) and really couldn’t be more happier. To me, it’s worth every penny. My wife thinks the interior is beautiful and doesn’t regret spending a lot! for it. She really like the sound.

[@jimmyb1460]

Golf R sounds deeper because it has the soundaktor. A vibrator behind the firewall

[@marcg611]

this is true the soundakator in the MK7 gti and R is very loud and almost sounds like a V8 luxury car but fake is fake. I turned mine off with vcds and wow! cabin is silent and can hear the the real engine note still. After a month tried turning back on and it was almost comical.. so much better off.

[@jimmyb1460]

Agree totally man. Dosnt need a soundaktor with that deep exhaust note

[@abdbach379]

The Audi S3 has it too it's just tuned to a different tone, if you turn them both off they will sound exactly the same, they even have the same exhaust setup.

[@silviomusdoni9437]

abd bach Thats wrong. Audi using better detail parts and having different (better) sound even without fake Sound generator.

[@oliverthemog3525]

While I can't be certain about the Audi, the Golf R also has a sound speaker integrated in the exhaust. Have a look at where it splits and you can see it. In Race or using Individual settings, the exhaust note is greatly amplified by altering the sound waves coming through.

[@shaneisaacs6314]

I'll take the golf r. In fact I already own one. It's a great car

[@SS8000cars]

On balance we agree with you, but S3 has it's merits!

[@callum6655]

Did you not know that they sound exactly the same but the golfs audio system plays a fake sound through the cabin ?

[@ForTheLoveOfCarss]

yup sound accuator

[@MrWells-km5cp]

its not a "fake" sound lol its not like a cd playing engine sounds lmao.. sound actuator .. omg its fake sounds! through the audio did i just downshift? nooo change the cd! lolzerz.. callum takes sound dampening out of car.. omg fake sounds!!!

[@Churboiismiley]

Callum it's a sound accuator, and they both actually do it, not just the Golf.

[@nicktune1219]

Yeah, this really sucks, we dont get the S3 sportback here. We get the sedan. And the only sportback here is the A3 E-Tron. Fuck the US market.

[@stevencroft2229]

The speedlimt sucks, thats the biggest problem!

[@nicktune1219]

Steven Croft lol. true

[@mannyechaluce3814]

Muricans don't buy performance hatchback, even Subaru gave up on the hatchback version of WRX :D just no money in it in America

[@klavier285]

Half of the wrx's sold were in hatchback, and loads of people want them back too. Not everyone likes the sedan.

[@mykoolo1]

Golf. All day all day.

[@kaymalai]

mykool2 Butthurt poor Golf owner being jealous of superior AUDI style, prestige & quality...

[@SM-po9wf]

dont think too hard your jokes

[@mick2136]

John Sinclair golf kill audi S3 !

[@bluex217]

John Sinclair how can someone be butthurt after paying 8K less for an identical car, barring the better looking exterior of the Golf R, o f course. I bought my MK7 R for only 31K, in fact. With the extra money you can easily go stage 2 or even 3..

[@lochlann25]

Golf r is better for sure

[@rsiguy1980]

to each his own....audi will always be a more premium car than a vw... I love the 7R and actually wanted one,but there are too many here on the road and hardly any s3. still haven't seen one on the road like mine,only the sedans. I do knw that vw and audi are sister groups tho..

[@johnmacdonald612]

Completely agree,we bought our s3 last December an it's only one of three in our town,love it,great car to drive!

[@alexgrazie93]

argument this "premium" please. they look the same to me VW owns Audi.

[@rsiguy1980]

alexgrazie93 u may be right but the materials built are way better Chop

[@skyisdlimit6125]

Since when did vw became a premium brand it's always been a Ford of Germany

[@royalstevep68]

I see loads of golf r and s3 here.

[@tredfxman]

Nice, but for what reason would you pick an R over a GTI Clubsport at the same price range? We know the R have AWD, but what else? We should all heard the Clubsport is the more fun car by now, & might look a bit better. We know we can choose R-Line option (at least here in Sweden) But what else reason would you get an Golf R over the new GTI Clubsport at peak 290 HP..?

[@SS8000cars]

I think you have covered the main points, the extra security of 4 wheel drive, 300HP and good balanced handling. GTI Clubsport not available when we bought the R. Still slightly prefer looks of R but I admit it is close!

[@tredfxman]

SS8000cars Okay, i bought the GTI CS production is goin on this week. Fantastic price as its the same price as GTI here in Sweden. CS wont get as heavy since R is 4WD, and even compared to normal GTI, CS is lighter. It also sends all 100% power to the front wheels, so that will provide for a funnn street car! Also in my opinion it looks better than the R & it probably have better aftersale value since its a special edition, but no hate for you R guys, remember hating is immature, both cars Rock! ;)

[@hnonline111]

Doesn´t the Golf R have a sound actuator inside?

[@SS8000cars]

It does, in order to imitate a 6 cylinder engine I guess like the R32, unless of course you have it switched off, not complicated apparently. Without it activated the turbo whoosh is quite good so they say.

[@AU79Demetris]

I can't believe that there are so many stupid and ignorant people fighting in the comments which one is better... I even read that the Golf R is equivalent of the RS3 and the S3 is the equivalent of the GTI rofl. The reason most of comparison videos are between the R and the RS3 is because the R is the fastest car they have under the VW logo and by comparing it to the RS3 they virtually promote it to a different category. If you want to know (from experience and knowledge) both of these cars run the same engines and chassis just with different bodies and setups. The Golf is set up for a more "sporty" experience while the S3 is set up for a more luxurious and comfortable one. In most countries the Audi is more expensive because it is the "premium" brand of the Volkswagen group (Audi, VW, Seat, Skoda).

[@WRP_2003]

Ivorion golf r is definitely an audi s3 rival the audi rs3 is over 100bhp more !

[@seinsmeld13]

I bought the S3 as I was able to test drive one and get it fully equipped. The R wasn't available with a moon roof or a car for testing. The VW is $10,000 cheaper where I live, however, the Audi has much better resale value.

[@gwaltzilla]

i would love to own either one of those cars but i refuse to get rid of my 2008 r32 i love its sound and its paid off :)

[@aghaiepo]

Golf R is the same as old R32s , so you won't loos if you get rid and by R

[@themcblyat5503]

No, the older R32's had a 3.2L V6

[@SS8000cars]

Apart from the four wheel drive system and more powerful but 4 cylinder engine. That said we love the R32 as well!

[@daveisasdavedoes3558]

The R32 is also four wheel drive.

[@lonememe]

Golf R owner here, and I cross-shopped these two when it was looking like it'd be very difficult to get an R for MSRP. Anyway, just a heads-up, there are leather "seating surfaces" options for the R too, and they're quite nice. The "seating surfaces" just means that only the parts that touch your body are leather, and everything else is fake. Spot on about the cars being for different types of people though! The R's comfort mode is nice when you're sore after track days and what not, but the interior of the Audi is just a bit more luxury oriented than the R, and that's OK! Different strokes for different folks! Enjoyed the video, and I'd say for future reviews, just make sure you're aware of available options before rendering a verdict.

[@SS8000cars]

The leather interior for the golf R costs £1,750- £2,500 dependant on which variant you get and is not standard. However on the Audi S3 the leather seating is standard. We are aware of the extras you can get on both cars however the review is based upon the the base spec of each car. Additional optional extras are not taken into account in our final option because it would not keep the price comparison consistency thus making it a biased review.

[@lonememe]

Oh! I wrongly assumed that just because the leather was standard in the US that it would also be standard in the UK. That's a hell of a mark-up too considering they're only leather seating "surfaces" and not completely leather seats. Interesting methodology otherwise. Best of luck and I look forward to seeing more reviews.

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks a lot, I know it can be irritating when manufactures vary the standard spec for different markets.

[@oppanheimer]

Very good explanation about the steering differences and how they affect the way the car feels. Now I get what reviewers are talking about when they say the Golf has better steering. Thanks guys.

[@SS8000cars]

Cheers mate

[@mjdudders]

I was torn between the two but ended up with the r which I have leather which was an upgrade and believe it or not I've managed on a run 42mpg and round town mid 30's..

[@alterego2660]

Spot on boys. I use my S3 sportback for school drop off 5 days a week and mostly trundle around in D, but on the odd occasion that I'm on my own with a clear country road it's a blast in sport or manual mode. My colleague is single with no kids and has an R, which he loves. Keep up the good work.

[@SS8000cars]

Sounds like an accurate assessment to us!

[@rhidiandavies1991]

Race mode in the golf just plays engine sound through the speakers. Test drove the golf after the M135i and asked the VW salesman how the hell a 2L 4 cylinder could sound better than a 3L 6 cylinder, and is it turns out it doesn't. They cheat by using the speakers when you put it in sport mode.

[@SS8000cars]

We agree, there is no question a 6 cylinder sounds much better than a 4 cylinder in this case. Both cars actually use Soundaktors to create the engine sound into the cabin rather than play it through the speakers.

[@kael13]

I just bought an R. Thanks for reaffirming my decision.

[@SS8000cars]

For us, and you clearly, ultimately it is an easy decision because we value handling and performance, however it is also easy to understand why somebody might choose to buy the S3.

[@Nickjgreenwood]

The finance company owns you now. Mwah hahah......

[@SS8000cars]

Fortunately for me I don't believe in finance unless there is a v good reason!

[@massiveglove2960]

+nick greenwood Ha I don't think these boys need finance

[@kaymalai]

Kael Poor poor little victim you. Psychological trick. Someone buys cheap crap. Than he's looking for confirmation and approval. And wow - after a majority of pro S3 threads you finally found one. Fact is: those two pimply faces have no clue, no style and no taste. Their opinion isn't worth a penny. Audi = Style, compact upper class, perfect design, quality and fantastic interior. Golf = cheap copy of S3 for people who can't afford the AUDI. Ugly outdated interior for average people. Ugly design. Average quality.

[@GianlucaLucchesi]

Good job but you guys need some tie mic or something to better the sound quality far away from the camera 😊

[@milinddixit6583]

Interesting reviews. Though I'd have thought if the Audi was aimed at comfort it would have standard kit like folding mirrors, parking sensors, adaptive cruise etc. All of which is standard on the R. I ordered the R for that reason. Base price they're the same but the S3 seriously racks up when you try make it like for like to the R's spec. I went for an R in the end but was a tough one. Love the S3 interior - class of its own compared to the Golf, which feels tacky IMO

[@SS8000cars]

Compared to the Audi I get what you mean though carpets aside I wouldn't call the R tacky. Compare it to a Focus and you get a different answer! And put the R in race and the decision becomes easy imo. But then you can see from the type of cars we run they have to be performance orientated. FYI the McLaren is better quality than the R8, so all things are relative!

[@massiveglove2960]

GTI PP you get even more as standard kit for less money and, with similar torque levels, it feels almost the same as the R in most driving. Great interior too.

[@SS8000cars]

Have look at Top Gear Drag Races, in this case between R, GTI PP, and GTD. Form your own conclusions as to whether the R is worth the extra.

[@LivingLifeSlower]

I'd be interested to live with the S3 for a but. I traded my Mk7 Golf R in after only 10 month. It developed a 12 item 'snag' list. I felt the general built quality was shocking. The steering is much better than previous fast golf's, but by no means a game changer.

[@SS8000cars]

That does not sound like good news, though ours has behaved impeccably, not a single fault, at least so far. Generally I should also comment that the build quality is excellent imo, except for those carpets.

[@massiveglove2960]

Martin!!!

[@mred9161]

nowadays has gone very much downhill

[@MzwandileHarmans]

Audi. Audi engine smoother quieter inside and that is lovely, but outside sounds great. The ride much better than Golf. Golf also good but it just falls short against Audi

[@BePoosh]

Wouldn't the Audi RS3 been a more accurate comparison. Or is this a price point comparison??

[@SS8000cars]

Price is always relevant because most people have a budget. So on the road the RS3 is way out of the price bracket of these two. However in Race mode and on most tracks, in most hands, the R would leave the RS3 and be the more exciting ride. Here the comparison is valid and the R would edge it imo. RS3 monstrously fast in a straight line! Can I just temper our comments with we have not as yet driven the latest spec RS3 so our opinion is based on other reports and our experiences with our S3.

[@ikybaiiki]

S3 is the golf R's equivalent the RS3 is up by another level, compare the specs

[@SS8000cars]

RS3 is faster in a straight line no question but it cannot carry the same speed into a corner as the R because the balance on the R is way better which means the R emerges from the corner faster, in some cases quite a lot faster. Where these 2 cars have been tested on track it is the R that will post the faster lap time nine times out of ten. Not in the same price bracket I agree but an interesting comparison nevertheless!

[@KevyD77]

I thought the Golf GTi was the S3 equivalent??

[@haiderali7970]

4.11 proper virgins 😂

[@mycumdump6352]

hope you are a married muslim and not an adulterer bro

[@drivelinetime]

Keep up the good work guys!

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks mate, appreciate it.

[@Justin-ry2kh]

The sound inside the cabin is created by a device called the Soundaktor mounted behind the firewall. I know because I removed it from my Golf R.

[@Cogito1978]

Nice work gents...enjoyed you all parsing out the different "flavors" of two great cars.

[@SS8000cars]

Cheers Damon.

[@SweBun]

Doesn't Golf R have an enhanced sound through a speaker inside the car?

[@SS8000cars]

It does but this can be switched off by your dealer. I intend to at the next service.

[@SweBun]

+GASSED UP! Then it's an artificial sound :) I was honestly dissapointed with the sound in my S3 8V. The car just feels like a glorified A3. Sold it and got a RS3 8V instead. Whole oyher level of beast!

[@prov924]

Hey, how many miles on a tank can you get between GTI and Golf R please. Roughly...

[@SS8000cars]

Generally around the 300 mark, though with careful motorway driving you can push it to 370

[@prov924]

Also some advice on how to break into the GTI would be great please. Ive read a few topics, a lot of have said to drive reasonably until reaching the 1K mark. What would you suggest?

[@kylemarsden3595]

Mmm if someone gave advice on how to break into a car on KZbin they would be arrested

[@nickjh1968]

Before criticising understand the cars systems. Dynamic in drive select will increase the steering weight.

[@Harpreet06]

Normal people on the street find the S3 better to look at, so just driving it around town is showing off. I've never seen a Golf R turn peoples heads. You can't go wrong with either. What options did both cars have? Did the S3 have magnetic ride or did the Golf R have DCC?

[@SS8000cars]

S3 does not have Magnetic ride and the R does not have DCC. Funnily enough we have found the S3 is all but invisible to other people and it is the R that turns heads but in our case this may be colour orientated.

[@Harpreet06]

SS8000cars Yeah you're right about the colours. In red, white and in some silver colours, the S3 just looks like a regular audi a3. The sepang blue S3 stands out more, like this lapiz blue golf R. So without the magnetic ride/DCC, would you say the Audi S3 has a more comfortable ride? I'm choosing between the two and my area has quite a lot of potholes.

[@SS8000cars]

They are not that far apart but we would say the S3 has the more comfortable ride.

[@Harpreet06]

SS8000cars What do you think about the Golf Gti in comparison to the R? I know you don't have any videos on it, so I was curious.

[@SS8000cars]

GTI great car but simply not as fast as R, either on the road or track, so wouldn't normally compare the two.

[@davidhayes4814]

I understand where you are coming from Ian. The VW R has benefits as a track car and, if you are younger or more talented than I am, it would be pretty amazing. I have just ordered a standard GTI as a latter day mid-life crisis present (5 door for the arthritis). Given that my last car was a Jazz, by getting a R, I would be teased even more.

[@SS8000cars]

GTI is a great car David, had I not been buying for the car channel I might very well have done the same especially if every day use in mind. I think the 5 door has the more cohesive design too. More 'grown up' I would say, hope you enjoy it!

[@sparkyUK]

So they change the driving mode in the R but not the S3? Totally fair comparison ...

[@SS8000cars]

The Audi was in dynamic as we mentioned at '4.40' during the entire review, the golf was often switched between sport and race dependant on how loud we wanted the Soundaktor

[@ubermick4208]

Thing is, you can get the Golf R in a less "flashy" colour and slap the leather in there, making it better for said family man, and still be about ten grand less than the Audi. After test driving both myself, I think the only person who'd buy the Audi is someone who enjoys the neighbours envying what's in his driveway.

[@jamesshotbolt1005]

I agree

[@ThatWasUndignified]

How can you get an opportunity to test both these cars together and mess it up so bad?

[@SS8000cars]

Difficult to tell what you think we messed up if you dont tell us...we do like constructive criticism to help us improve in future videos

[@ThatWasUndignified]

SS8000cars apologies, people don't usually take constructive criticism. I feel like the content of the video was good, you've clearly had a good opportunity to test some good cars, and whoever did the camera angles is very professional. Editing looks good too. Areas you could improve on is actually making what you say 'interesting', in the sense that you just repeat what people who have any idea about German hot hatches already know. And also be more enthusiastic! It's clear that you both like cars but without enthusiasm, it's just like a slow paced documentary. As someone actually choosing between the two cars, I'm none the wiser which one to chose. Hope this helps

[@SS8000cars]

Cheers mate, best feedback we've had in a while! Yes we see what you mean, the points we made were quite generic. We shall try our best to take on your advice, thanks again!

[@ThatWasUndignified]

SS8000cars no worries, wish you the best of luck guys, looking forward to new videos!

[@aloowq]

This is so relevant to my life at the moment. 2017 s3? What do you think?

[@SS8000cars]

Great car with a little more power so we understand, and just a little nicer inside than the R. So perfect if your main journeys are in Towns, or on A roads and motorways. If you intend/ wish to use it on the track or even for punting down the country lanes regularly we believe the Golf is the more exciting option especially in Race mode!

[@aloowq]

Thanks for your response mate, much appreciated. Just ordered my S3 Sportback in Navara Blue with a Pan roof. Arriving late October! :)

[@SS8000cars]

Well done, let us know how you get on.

[@senorfrog5605]

what country are you guys in? in the US, the mk7's came fully loaded as standard with the only choice being what kind of gearbox you prefer.... no leather in an R? and why do you wieners get the DSG.... cause of launch control and the faster 0-60? ugh you might as well have just bought a ford focus RS or something if you're so concerned about 0-60.

[@krowblack6839]

Great review guys, thumbs up. Golf R wins any day.

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks mate appreciate the comment.

[@nongrada6004]

" my golf has blabla nlaba." "Ooh realy i got blah nlah."

[@DGhall92]

Just watched this video after buying a Golf R 5 days back, I think I made the right decision? Incredible house!

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks, we think you made the right choice.

[@maveric0738]

They sound exactly the same to me! We never got the Audi S3 Hatchback here in the states. Volkswagen decided to Produce the Audi A3/S3 sedan for us in the United States.

[@SS8000cars]

I have been told you also do not get the three door R in the US. Why?

[@maveric0738]

SS8000cars. No idea why someone would tell you that. My Friend Picked up the 2015 Golf fully equipped and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it!

[@Jamie-de7up]

I assumed the are both the same car / manufacturer?

[@georgemcdougall5355]

I'd say the golf r looks better than the s3

[@kaymalai]

George McDougall I'd say you suffer from taste cancer.... Peasant.

[@oneshortgamer2540]

John Sinclair triggered, facepalm

[@bluex217]

Agreed, R looks gorgeous !

[@ianturner4557]

This is a great clip as I am looking to buy either an S3 or Golf R. Just one quick question, how many miles would you get on a full tank on average?

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks Ian, generally around 300, though with careful motorway driving you can push it to 370

[@_Benjamin]

Can anyone tell me what is the point of buying such a fast car if you don't live in germany and can drive it out?

[@vobbelmedia9791]

like the golf more!

[@g4lv4nizer]

Points to bear in mind: they seem to be Golf R fanboys - when the lads were comparing the sound and stuff they were with the windows open, actually the whole test with windows open while driving the golf R, however, windows closed while driving the S3. Second point as reagrding the S3 steering wheel being light, they never explained the fact that it is simple to change it to S3's Dynamic mode or set it on the individual mode, and the steering whell gets much better for racing. Last, but not least: No Launch control at all and 0-60 time comparison!

[@rishm7526]

Audi all day, any day!

[@SS8000cars]

We for one would not blame you, though again we say it depends on what you want the car for!

[@oneshortgamer2540]

John Sinclair stop being angry Audi will never be ahead of VW because VW owns Audi

[@mick2136]

Rishh , golf all day , any day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@psychobread1252]

OneShortGamer FIAT own Ferrari but I’d rather have a Ferrari...

[@davidmccallum6434]

Good rev, fellas. Thanks.

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks mate!

[@lazarmilijasevic855]

Imo the audi looks soo much better than the golf

[@mick2136]

Lazar Audi is a shit car ... golf is better !

[@reebokkfcdevotee2010]

are u stupid they are practically the same car the differences are minor so if you think audi is a shit car than you probably think vw are shit too grow a brain

[@mick2136]

Audi is as hit car !

[@rju7363]

Doesn't Volkswagen pump engine audio in through the speakers?

[@abdbach379]

they both do, it's called a soundaktor it's just tuned to a different tone for the Audi.

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

Didnt know that, but it's lame. It's like those lighter plug sound generator lol

[@abdbach379]

Veikra Not at all, think about it, it's a 2.0 litre engine, yes it's powerful but it the sound it produces already is great but still can't be as deep as a V8, moreover German cars have great sound and vibration insulation, so you won't hear the sound inside like it is in hte outside, but they can't just make the exhaust louder because it's supposed to be a "civilised sports hatchback" so it's the obvious solution to amplify the sound inside the car, they're not faking power it's just sound which made to make you more excited, and plus VW is trying to hide this out because it's not a big deal unless you're trying to find faults with the car, and it's funny when the First comment saying " Doesn't Volkswagen pump engine audio in through the speakers?" like it's VW only. Now almost all car manufacturers do it, you want to know what's more lame? a Ford mustang having a similar system in their V6 versions...

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

abd bach I understand the thinking, but I disagree with it. It's rice, let's bring back the double blade wipers and led windshield washer nozzles. And yes , it's just as lame with the v6 mustangs. Im not the one suggesting it's only volkswagen, I was the one unaware they did it. A great sound used to be the by-product of a great engine, now it's just audio samples, it's sad.

[@abdbach379]

Veikra yep I actually agree with what you'er say, but if I sound like defending Vw it's just because the soundaktor (the name of the device) doesn't actually make the car louder in the inside (you can check the youtube videos about it, and most people can't even tell the difference between it off and on) it's just supposed to bring back that 2.0l engine "grunt" before it was turbocharged, they don't try to make it louder or sound like a big engine ;)

[@jorgec.8801]

Both cars are made by the same company and are very similar. Of course the Audi is a little bit more premium but that depends on the taste. Personally, I don't like the display in the middle of the windscreen....that blocks my total visibility. I also don't like the reddish coloring on the Audi's dash and on a night drive, it's so annoying. Interior design of Audi is also less elaborated in my opinion. I own Golf MK7 GTI and it's interior, practicality and looks are astonishing. For me audi S3 looks like a more expensive version of Seat Leon, whereas Golf is a myth and the emblem of Volkswagen and you can feel it everywhere in the car. Don't forget that all these Leon Cupra, S3, etc. are adjusted versions of the Golf. If you buy a powerful small audi, RS3 is the one to go.

[@stanfield5124]

Jorge C. I

[@nialahmad]

That mansion is definitely in Purley Surrey, on the Webb Estate.

[@TheDublad13]

Is the R you're driving equipped with DCC?

[@SS8000cars]

I do not think so. Handling is magic even without!

[@just_the_job]

Good video guys.

[@stuartchristie654]

Interesting video and I like the way you guys try to keep it natural, so please sort out the sound recording....wear some tie mics and when using a drone try not to include the sound of it in the video....If you guys are based in the surrey area I would be happy to help you with some lapels.....

[@sparkford04]

James & Harry, It would be Good if you guys did a living with history with your Golf Rmk7 & Audi S3, as you have had them for sometime and it would enlighten people about buy used etc. Regards, Keith PS. Did mention this to Ian a few weeks ago now.

[@Gr8mate13]

I have a Golf R and m Mate has a S3 , both optioned up , you cant tell the difference except the Audi feels more luxurious hence the 10K increase in price, its heavier as well hence the brake fade, identical everything else

[@SS8000cars]

S3 is the same basic price as the R. RS3 is 10K more expensive or thereabouts.

[@Gr8mate13]

Like i said both are optioned up , options on the Audi are way more expensive as is his servicing. Here in Australia base model Golf R is 57Kwith the manual box 60K with dsg, you cannot get a Manual Audi hence its cheaper , 63.9k for the Audi, no options at all. Example .. he got a paint pack , that alone cost 2.5K ......., changed tyres to Continentals apparently they protect the rims ( bullshit )that cost 1k. and the list went on. he also got Metallic paint, driver assist and sport pack, when you get the Sport pack the electric seats are deleted and you then have to re-option them with electric seats, ,,, thus the 10k difference,,, hardly the same price The only option on mine was adding the leather seats RS 3 is $78K.. The biggest issue i found with the 2 cars is the headroom the Audi feels claustrophobic , the boot will not take a set of golf club at all unless you drop the seats its tiny.

[@kanayanwargaming695]

Nice vid guys, are those fake engine sound?

[@cockyjeremy]

R is definitely better. I just ran a 12.13 on an unprepped track. :D

[@minnesnowtan9970]

AudiUSA stinks because they do not offer manual transmissions. Go for the Golf. Oh, cute little cottage you show at the beginning.

[@namanchauhan1575]

Great review! Agreed with everything mentioned in the video.

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks mate, cool.

[@Nightfly1957]

No, the Audi and the VW have the same engine with 300 HP at 5500 rpm and a torque of 380 NM at 1800rpm. And they have only 4 cylinders. A BMW m140i or m240i has 340 HP at 5800rpm and a torque of 500NM at 1250rpm. The engine is a 3l engine with six cylinders. This car has the option of an adaptive Management. ECO Pro: Driving in a town the next gear comes at 1100 rpm.Also if You drive in D. The S Program feels completly different.The engine reacts very fast to change the gears and You can go up to 7000 rpm. But this is not necessary. The sound in ECO Pro and D is as if You drive with 150 HP. You hear nothing. ECO Pro has a limit at 130 km/h and You can drive with 7,5l Super for 100 km and Tempomat at 130 km/h on a German Highway. Also in D the sound comes late. At 3500 rpm. If You choose sport the car is a beast. 4,3 seconds until 100 km/h. And the engine is getting louder and louder. S+ is the program, which is too hard for a normal driver. The gearbox always finds the best gear. Sure, You have the option to change the gear manually with the wipes on the steering wheel. But there is no reason to do it. And: Every m140i or 240i has 360 HP, some more than 370 HP. The 340 HP are official to make a greater difference to the M 2 with 410 HP (?). And it is allowed that an engine has 10% more HP or 10% less HP. Normaly a good speed on a German Highway is between 160 km/h and 170 km/h. The engine needs about 10 l Super + over 100 km. If You have a free highway an drive between 200 km/h and 235 km/h the engine takes about 12l -13 l Super +. Many people do not understand why BMW will put four cylinder engines in the compact class. Sure You have more place behind the driver. But if You use the car mostly with two persons everything is okay. And a third person should not be a problem. You can change the seat beside the driver. Many people do not need so much place if they do not drive the car. So, in my opinion it is possible to drive in the holidays with 3 Persons and the things they need. I believe that BMW makes a mistake, because people like the six cylinder engine. This engine came to the market at 1982 in the 323i. And year after year the engine became better. And Mercedes Benz and BMW will work together in the future. About 30 modells will come in the next years. And some dealers offer both: Mercedes and BMW. Excuse my bad English, but i think You understand what i mean. And -i forgot- the Audi A3 RS is a concurrent for the M2. I wish You all the very best and sent many greetings from Germany. Let us all hope, that the Brexit will not coast so much money for all of us.

[@joseMartinez-mo8kz]

Pretty sure the soundaktor in the golf was on

[@Tefloncoated]

I’m leaving a thumbs up and watching this latter so it better be good!

[@NZsarge1]

If you look at how these two are named R = Race (well racier anyway) and S = Sport (well sporty anyway). The way I see it Audi has always marketed their "S" cars as a sportier version of their luxury cars and the RS is obviously their harder core road cars. To add just for the hell of it I think Audi's RS and Volkswagen's R aren't particularly suitable as track day weapons but are consummate sporting road cars which is where most performance saloon/hatch/wagon's spend the vast vast majority of their lives. There are cars that can bridge the gap from road to track better but most of those end up being more compromised road cars. Just my 2 cents/rant.

[@SS8000cars]

Certainly I agree with much of what you say. Though it might surprise you how many are taken on the track.

[@NZsarge1]

+SS8000cars Oh for sure, it's not they can't do a decent track day but it'd road driving that where they excel.

[@SS8000cars]

Agreed!

[@Nubsauce]

ehh....RS's are def a different breed of car than just the S. Different Engine and everything. The RS3 is a turbocharged 2.5l 5 cyl pushing close to 400HP if not more.

[@metuberob]

forgot to mention you can adjust exhaust note on the audi

[@zazoubakou3860]

thumb up from me but wouldn,t it better to compare golf r with rs3?

[@SS8000cars]

Cheers, it would certainly be interesting to compare the RS3 with the golf R however, the RS3 is around £8,000 extra and has over 60 more bhp than the golf. The S3 and the R are both in the same price bracket and use the same engines which is why we decided to compare the two.

[@ghanamafia7199]

BEAUTIFUL HOUSE....simple yet dramatic...clean...classy.....just gorgeous....Money well spent.

[@davidhayes4814]

If you spec VWs up, you get very near Audi prices. Let's face it they are both really lovely cars. I'd feel a bit more self conscious in the VW R........ But then I am old.

[@SS8000cars]

I agree with you David on feeling a little self-conscious when driving the VW but their are benefits to driving the R! Ian

[@jackflash1129]

Golf R for the refined looks in side and out! Add Stage 2 and you have a killer!

[@haarisusman7376]

do rs3 vs a45 because that would be a good video btw good vid

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks and we shall try!

[@54spatula]

What is this, an audition?

[@sierrahotel1137]

They use an Audi engine in both cars. Audi make the engines for Audi and the Golf GTI and R. VW tune to their own specs.

[@SS8000cars]

You are correct.

[@P1r4t3Qu33n]

what is the story with the mc mansion? golf r ftw

[@piotr2951]

Great review but Harry you have keep your hands where we can see them when you make those noises :)

[@SS8000cars]

I'll let him know, LOL!

[@kev2108]

honest review and so smart

[@nsoper19]

rich boys showing off the latest toys their daddies bought them.

[@SS8000cars]

The R is owned and used by me as a daily and the S3 was lent to us for a period to evaluate, hey why let the facts get in the way of a good opinion. Dad

[@nsoper19]

guess that's your house then?

[@SS8000cars]

Unfortunately not Nathan. That said I am able to do this I accept but I earn't anything I have so I think that's ok as my guys will have to.

[@mannyechaluce3814]

I did not see any male in these videos, just females with beards

[@N9ne9200]

s3 and golf 7r are effortable

[@lukazupie7220]

You can mute a drone u know:) both nice cars 👍

[@irfantai3564]

i just love golf

[@bbahmed007]

Nice work lads! Good depth review, looking forward to upcoming videos.

[@SS8000cars]

Thanks, appreciate that!

[@VladimirMicic]

You think the Golf would turn more heads than the Audi? I'm not sure on that, idk...

[@ChrisMag100]

Magnetic dampers on the Audi?

[@SS8000cars]

No

[@khutsophasha8995]

Golf r is always the best

[@ramzikurban9868]

great video ... been searching for a video like this for a while now ... golf R for the win.

[@ramzikurban9868]

i would also like to see a drag race between the two cars

[@SS8000cars]

Cheers mate, we just need to find an appropriate place first!

[@fbf01]

Some house!!!!! Wow

[@SS8000cars]

It is a great house!

[@xXLilLuDaXx]

its a castle not a house

[@fbf01]

+xXLilLuDaXx lol that's not a castle

[@xXLilLuDaXx]

Fernando Barbosa believe me man .. i live in a house .. hahahaha

[@ForTheLoveOfCarss]

pretty sure they use the same brakes.

[@LA-vz9bq]

Quick taking

[@charliebrown5524]

Audi better build quality still like the VW

[@markrakov6009]

Audi and Volkswagen are pretty much the exact same thing, Volkswagen uses Audi's engine valves and for those who say Volkswagen is unreliable, those people probably never owned a Volkswagen . its all about taste and personality.I prefer the Volkswagen because its cheaper and throughout my history with Volkswagen, My Volkswagen never broke once. I'd only pick Audi if i was wealthy .

[@James.O]

You're comparing apples to oranges here. Why didn't you put Golf R against Audi RS3.

[@SS8000cars]

Hey Jim, In some ways you are right but price is an important factor when buying any new car and the RS3 is in the next price bracket. Also other than outright power the RS3 and S3 are not dissimilar in what they offer, quality and usability perhaps above outright handling and balance. So the comments that won the R its first place here, just it has to be said, may well have been true even if the RS3 had been the competitor. Oh and we weren't offered an RS3!

[@flyer8887]

RS3 uses 5 cyl engine, and much more powerful. Meanwhile S3 and the R uses an identical engine.

[@J54530]

Lol Golf R just can not compete with an RS3

[@aymennhadji7285]

The golf R is the best 💝💝💝

[@aguadoia]

You should also go over your ability to stay on your lane...that would be nice too.

[@mikepalmer1770]

If you want to compare a race car to the Volkswagen Type R you should have drove the RS3

[@kylemarsden3595]

Mike Palmer 😂👉😁😀😂😂😂volkswagen type r that v-tech must be affecting your matter or is it the crack pipe? Anyway it's driven not drove.

[@CrazyGreek80]

Oh the struggles!

[@Jamalogo10]

There was at least 4 scenes where you guys are standing next to or leaning against the cars reiterating what everyone already knows. And it seemed super scripted.