Audi TT Mk1 Brake Upgrade

[@stevesloan6775]

Im always watching your videos for great advice and what's available and interchangeable for these TT's Thanks heaps man

[@JDNSAUDIS]

I got my 312mm drilled and groved disks for £55 new and ebc ultimax pads for £25 stops on its nose for a very cheap price

[@simonj9157]

I've got the brembo 4pot as standard on my mk1 leon cupra R great brakes but never understood why seat got the more premium brakes over the Audi tt and golf GTI . Great to see a channel with VAG content 🤙👍👌

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for the comment Simon what discs and pads do you run if you wouldn’t mind sharing with others? I think seat do it to stand out because if you look at the new seat Leon R they come with really nice wing back seats and other nice bits and bobs too.

[@albertsiciliano4209]

I have an 18Z kit from ECS Tuning in the US, it is good, but beware - the 18Z calipers will definitely give you a long pedal with the factory master cylinder. I am switching to a Brembo GT 4 pot with a 328 2 pc rotor - made by Brembo. The long pedal is un-nerving on the race track and the modulation zone is very short. Lived and learned, moving on :) (2001 TT 225Q AMU)

[@vincentput]

Don't forget replacing and upgrading brake fluid! A high dry and wet boiling point will help a lot with countering brake fade under repeated brake manoeuvres and it isn't that expensive for a full flush. For example Motul RBF600 is around 11 EUR for 0.5l, so 33 EUR for a flush...

[@TheParrottBros]

Vincent That’s a great point Vincent thank you for your comment, especially if you’re going to do track days it is very important to replace your brake fluid and upgrade to one with a higher boiling point as mentioned, I have seen it countless times where people have lost the pedal mid track day as the brakes have just overheated because of poor quality old brake fluid.

[@vincentput]

@@TheParrottBros indeed also the surface of the hydraulic pistons needs to be observed when upgrading to a BBK. Most aftermarket solutions are optimised for the master cylinder, but some self sourced solutions, even though massively larger in caliper and piston size can feel underwhelming or can even be dangerous if not matched to your master cylinder. Of course you know this, but some viewers don't so I thought I'd mention this.

[@gplusgplus2286]

Very well said. Theres also the Brembo junior GT kit which is a complete fronts kit from Brembo that will set you back about 1200-1500 new.

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks buddy, is that the kit that’s fitted to some porches that runs a slightly bigger disc? I tried to cover all the straight on fitting options that don’t require disc re drilling. As always that’s for watching and comments always appreciated

[@gplusgplus2286]

@@TheParrottBros Its an upgrade kit by Brembo, no idea what other cars it fits but as I know it wasnt OEM to any car 323 or 328x28 discs

[@matk22]

Have you or will you do rear brake upgrade options... thanks

[@ZERO_Zero0]

You've inspired me to get my own, cheers man

[@TheParrottBros]

Your very welcome I think 😂😂

[@albertsiciliano4209]

Hi, thanks, you've given me an answer to a question i had last year - the long pedal travel issue. it is very scary when you experience it on a race track!! I have the 18Z 6 pot Porsche/Brembo upgrade with 2 piece floating rotors up front. ECS Tuning in the states has a kit with all you need. I have new factory rear calipers installed with a kit that allows the use of the R32 disk size, also from ECS tuning and a 2 piece floating rotor. Working with my pit service and local performance shop, we chased the intermittent issue (long pedal) by flushing fluid and upgrading to very high temp racing fluid (twice) and then venting my front bumper cover, then driving technique. Then, looking at the pad operating temperature range for the front, the service tech and i thought maybe i was just not pushing hem hard enough to keep temperature in them. In the next practice session I worked the brakes harder with later and firmer application along with more left foot use on my trail braking. Voilla, never had the issue again - now since it was intermittent I suspect there is a combination of underserve and pad temp going on - I am running Hawk yellows in front and the blues in the rear. Granted, I am a hobbyist racer and for me, the learning process is a big part of my experience and the fun. I would never had come to understand the under servo scenario without your video, thank you very much. I would be interested in a discussion on rear brake upgrades using something stock but from another model. For track use, having 4 pots up front for example and 1 pots in there rear will bring the driver to a point of "outgrowing" the capabilities of the setup once they get into a regular routine of track time with some coaching. Again, I would never had come to understand the under servo scenario without your video, thank you very much!!

[@Xappt]

What do you mean by „under servo“?

[@albertsiciliano4209]

@@Xappt hi, what I mean is that the brake cylinder is likely too small for the brake fluid volume I need to push. So, the usable pedal range (~70-100% stroke) is short and therefore hard to modulate. I went from 4 single pistons to 14.

[@Xappt]

@@albertsiciliano4209 Arright understood now. Did you change the master by now?

[@johnchisholm2692]

@Albert Siciliano How long was the pedal travel that you experienced? I have fitted 18z 6 pots to my track car, I'm sure I have an issue with bleeding the brakes, as the pedal almost touches the floor before you get any feel. That's with all new lines, braided hoses and racing fluid. I'm guessing that I need to bleed them a few more times. I have heard of people fitting check valves to the system to retain a few psi of pressure, but I'm yet to hear of anyone fitting a bigger master cylinder, if that is such an option on this platform.

[@albertsiciliano4209]

@@johnchisholm2692 The pedal travel was very long and would arise randomly. When it happened last, I had it towed to the shop for a full inspection of the brake system. Not taking chances, I had the master cylinder replaced with OEM, lines tested, calipers inspected and bought a new to me ABS pump/computer assembly. Turns out both ABS/computer assemblies checked out. I did have a failing steering position sensor, which was replaced. The team at the shop believed that with the intermittent failures of the steering position sensor and braking hard enough to bring the ABS into play, caused the system to "ice". This would result in a long pedal moment. The year prior I had wheel bearings replaced after a few moments with the long pedal happening. As for fluid it has been changed twice per season and is the 600 degree fluid from StopTech. I do believe that the car is under-servoed since the majority of the braking and trail activity is within a small window near the end of normal pedal travel. The piston just can't move enough fluid for all 14 brake pistons (+10 over stock). I'll likely move to a 330 mm setup with 4 piston calipers - Stop Tech has a nice kit for the car.

[@roderickmchardy3650]

very comprehensive ,, totally correct about the long pedal , bit disconcerting but do work ,,, let us know if you come up with a solution for that ,, thanks R

[@TheParrottBros]

roderick mchardy thanks R, I will have a chat With my pal who fitted the ap’s and see what he knows about that, also know a lad who runs a 500+ tt race car. Will report back on that

[@eliteap_]

Very Informative! Thanks for these videos. Changing my brake caliper to a new TRW one since my one has a bleed nipple hole stripped.. Rather replace than fix.

[@TheParrottBros]

That is the other benefit to keeping it OEM if you do need a new caliper you can quite easily source a rebuilt one for a reasonable price. Thanks for watching

[@TheNorville2]

@@TheParrottBros Off Topic, would be great to do a video on Turbos, i am thinking of upgrading my turbo . How easy to remover and refit, that would be good and what sort of turbo to buy as an upgrade.

[@Hoplitas22]

Great video, i will be going for brembo caliper No. 20.7673.03 found on rear of the cayenne or q7. fit adapters with leon cupra 323x28 disc

[@TheParrottBros]

Ooo didn’t know that was possible. Thanks for the information :)

[@jasonst5688]

Did you put the Q7 calipers on your TT? It looks like the brake pads are not covering the whole brake surface on the 323mm disk. Like 2/3 or something.

[@Hoplitas22]

@@jasonst5688 I did, cover the disc just fine. Can send some photos

[@jasonst5688]

@@Hoplitas22 Thanks mate, that helps a lot. I will order the calipers.

[@geofflockley1176]

Dear Parrott Bro's, great comprehensive informative video content as usual for an Audi TT Mk1 8N 225bhp enthusiast like myself! I have heard that late model Porsche Boxter calipers will also fit the existing stock brackets as a larger than stock TT Mk1 4 pot brake upgrade? Someone correct me I'm wrong... Or course, your choice of stopping power is based on your needs anywhere from what a daily driver wants all the way to the most competitive racer in a desired class in a specific discipline of racing. My 2001 TT went with a simple stock solution by Power Stop and their Euro-Stop solid rotors and matching pads all the way around the stock single piston calipers. These Power Stop products are a noticeable improvement over stock rotors and pads for the do it yourself'er that likes to drive with a bit spirit every now and then. I live in Colorado Springs, Colorado and I often drive my TT through the I-70 Vail Pass. The steep 7% downhill grades for miles at a time will certainly test your brakes (especially when you get into with a Porsche 996 Carrera 2 and beat them on the brakes). I love my TT! Keep the videos coming.

[@TheParrottBros]

Geoff Lockley from that I’ve researched the Porsche brakes run bigger discs which is an improvement but they are not a straight fit and also require the discs to be redrilled, not sure what model Porsche it was. I always try and do straight swap modifications as it makes like easier as parts don’t require special attention should you need new bits. And for the normal diy’er it’s much more straight forward and you don’t need machine shops and such. Like you said your right it all depends on what people want to do with the car. For spirited driving simply upgrading the discs and pads for a better quality ones will make a good improvement. Thanks will be plenty more to come.

[@mrkage9279]

I know is an old post. But why no mention of TT RS 8J 4 pots and 370x32 disc?

[@mikenolan1889]

what about the 6 pot cayenne q6 touraeg? with some sort of racing dual servo upgrade

[@Orlok1970]

What a lush colour! Looks very cool 😀

[@TheParrottBros]

Thank you, it’s what made me buy the car

[@Orlok1970]

Very hard to come by! Mine is brilliant black...hard and cool and shiny as Darth Vader's dildo! I was a bit iffy at first (about the colour) but now I love it. I viewed the car when the show room opened...if I had waivered some one else would have bought it later that day! The only car I ever wanted to own ❤️

[@nostalgichiro6159]

Wish I could get the cupra r up grade in the us !

[@TheParrottBros]

If you have a look on CBauto.co.Uk he does a Set of adapters to run Porsche Brakes, which are very similar to the Cupra r brakes

[@badboybunny]

Thank you for this.

[@TheParrottBros]

BadBoyBunny my pleasure thanks for watching

[@myattribe]

Hi Dom.... Can't see details for rear upgrade ( old age and possibly blind!!) What's the suggestion there or is it just Std OEM Want a bit more 'security' on braking while tootling around.... ( wife's comment!)

[@TheParrottBros]

You can get a bracket that spaces the caliper off and allows you to fit a 2 piece disc thats 300mm, from cbauto's besides that there is a 4 pot option but then youll need a seperate caliper for the handbrake

[@macphersontube]

Hi, great video, exactly what I was looking for. An tips on OEM upgrades at the rear?

[@TheParrottBros]

Thank you, just a good set of pads will do, unless you want bigger then head over to www.cbauto.co.uk and look at bigger discs / 2 piece

[@macphersontube]

The Parrott Bro’s thanks! I like the idea of the modified S4 discs, I’ll look in to that!

[@userb3nje909]

What do you think of Wilwood 2 piston? theyre like the only ones I can find that come in funky colours.

[@simonpalethorpe8350]

Iv got a cupra r and thay r good brakes if eney 1 is thinking of geting them.

[@zainhanif1922]

On a s3 or tt ? Is is str8 install and use a cupra hose ?

[@ezequielcabreravilanova4056]

I changed the rear calipers on my 04 3.2. Now my brake pad feels spongy. What order do I bleed the brakes? and will I need vcds to bleed the abs module/ master cylinder? Thank you in advance if you have a video or guide as to how to do it. I keep hearing mixed reviews about abs module bleed.

[@sepstersepster9297]

Learning a lot ,very quickly thanks to your vids !!..thanks a lot 👍👍

[@TheParrottBros]

Sepster Sepster your very welcome, thanks for the kind words 👍🏻👍🏻

[@juz3871]

Awesome videos, really enjoying your content and it's helping me out as a new TT owner. I've added an LCR front splitter and your "how to" was very helpful. With regards to brakes, will the Mk1 3.2 V6 calipers got straight onto the 1.8t 225 ? I've found calipers at an acceptable price but will I need the brackets too?

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for the comment appreciate that, yes as far as I’m aware you will need the Caliper, carrier, any clips, then new discs and pads. You may find that you can get better braking just by putting better discs and pads on your current set up

[@juz3871]

@@TheParrottBrosthanks for the reply! I think that's the route I'm going to take, just so expensive to change everything. Now just need to make a decision on discs and pads ! ECB? Brembo? 🤔...

[@TheParrottBros]

Pads I would go Mintex m1144 or ferodo ds2500. Both give a great bite. Discs wise a ebc or brembo will be fine

[@TheParrottBros]

Also check your Calipers and slider are free and no rough spots as that will affect braking too

[@catalingrecu3773]

I read some of the comments looking for an answer to my question but didn't found. Also I didn't read all. If I am repeating the question I apologize. Is improving the braking to change also the rear calipers? Does it fits like front calipers from Leon Cupra R also for the rear? Thank you for all content you are providing. Very helpful for non experienced enthusiasts like me 😁

[@TheParrottBros]

Leon cupra r callipers are the same on the rear as the 225 TT. For rear upgrades you can go to Cbauto.co.uk for bigger rear discs, s4 Caliper upgrades and more

[@stevenlee4437]

Is there an updated master cylinder that can be fitted? I’ve just bought myself some 18Z off a forum 👌🏻

[@TheParrottBros]

From what others have said with the correct fitting and bleeding they have managed to get quite a good pedal, i assume maybe those who have a bad pedal may still have air in the system

[@jaapfeitsma559]

Just bought me a set of brembo lcr. Do you know if they fit on the stock 9 spoke old rs4's? Believe ET35 or ET33.

[@TheParrottBros]

I’ve not fitted them with those wheels but think You may need a little spacer.

[@DJ-dB]

Hey if got a 02 mk1 225bam with 80k, if got 4 pot brembo calipers I was told will fit tt, they come off a Honda accord any advice if I can get adapters so they fit cheers in advance

[@TheParrottBros]

Bryon Douglas it all depends if anyone has made a bracket for that style of Caliper or not already. Speak to cbauto.co.uk

[@tomdowdeswell]

Great video dude, do you know the minimum wheel size for the 225, V6 and Brembos? Am I right in saying they all use the same bango/brake line connection? Thanks

[@TheParrottBros]

Not sure on the v6 brakes but the brembo’s use a different style of flexi to Caliper connection. Wheel size wise the 225 brakes will fit under 17’s, the v6 and brembos I would guess 18’s is the minimum wheel size. But not tried 17’s on since fitting

[@hogud]

I might be late but ive just fitted my v6 brake kit under 6 spokes 17’ wheels on my 225 ;)

[@leath25]

Morning tried to replace my rear brake pads yesterday,managed to get the new ones in after half an hour but the calliper wouldnt push back to allow room.gave up and put the old ones back on.any sugeestions on pushing back the calliper would be helpful.carl from cov.

[@TheParrottBros]

Leath25 Hey Carl, the rear Calipers require winding back to get the piston to retract back into the Caliper

[@leath25]

@@TheParrottBros thanks for the reply tried that in a clockwise motion but still couldnt get it back enough for the new pads.im wondering if theve seized up

[@TheParrottBros]

Leath25 did you take the cap off the brake fluid when doing it? The pressure will stop you winding it. Could well be seized as well tho, was the disc/pads unevenly worn or anything

[@leath25]

@@TheParrottBros yes took off the cap brake pads well worn taking it to my mates garage this week.the money pit.

[@TheParrottBros]

Leath25 could well be the Caliper has had it, were they both the same? If so did you try winding both clockwise and anti, some times they wind either way

[@benreeve6597]

Hiya, great video really good to see some clear advice. I have the Brembo 4 pot calipers on my 3.2 V6 mk1 audi TT but was wondering where can I find replacement pads???? Would the seat cupra R brembo pads be OK? Many thanks Ben

[@TheParrottBros]

Ben Reeve thanks buddy, yeah Cupra r pads will fit the brembos fine. What pads do you want track or normal Road pads

[@benreeve6597]

@@TheParrottBros oh kool OK, I think road pads would be best as the car is my daily drive. Many thanks on getting back to me.

[@natanaelsantos2027]

Hello, thank you very much for this very informative video. I just have one question, those 2 OEM upgrade are plug and play? Or they need a new brake line, a adaptador mount like the 17/18z?

[@TheParrottBros]

The cupra r , v6 and 225 are all interchangeable you just need to make sure you get all brackets, carriers, discs lines etc from the donor vehicle, all use a different fitting line

[@natanaelsantos2027]

@@TheParrottBros okay thanks🙏🏼

[@johnsalazar1932]

Say bro, what do I get for a 15 in wheel to clear bro? thanks for your time an help??

[@TheParrottBros]

John Salazar hey, what do you mean? You want to fit a 15” alloy wheel? You would struggle to clear the disc and Caliper

[@johnsalazar1932]

@@TheParrottBros so I need disc and caliper rotors from what car and get for a swap

[@TheParrottBros]

John Salazar why are you trying to go smaller? Probably something similar platform. Like a mk4 golf

[@johnsalazar1932]

@@TheParrottBros for Slick's 15,16 better race with??

[@TheParrottBros]

John Salazar depends what kinds racing your doing, 17’s would Be the smallest I’d go

[@quasirali6660]

Got me some Brembos on my mark 1....

[@aleksandarpetkov9592]

Is it possible to put bigger brake disk from 323mm in this 4pot Brembo?

[@TheParrottBros]

Not as far as im aware, you can run a 2 piece disk that will help aid cooling but bigger i couldnt say

[@schwantz037]

Great vid. Do the Cupra Leon calipers bolt on to the existing TT hangers? Cheers....

[@TheParrottBros]

They bolt onto the hub, you need the calipers and brackets off the leon mk1

[@aminanhar2258]

How do you go about fitting the cupra 4 pot brakes btw? Is it straight plug and play (I imagine its not) but if you could make a video on it that would be great

[@TheParrottBros]

amin anhar was planning on doing a video on it when I get a chance, but basically you use Cupra r: discs, pads, Calipers, carrier brackets and brake flexi. ( I used braided lines ) and it’s a straight bolt up. Easy as that :)

[@aminanhar2258]

@@TheParrottBros This will probably be a daft question. So your referring to the cupra carrier brackets right (not a aftermarket one) secondly could you recommend which brand would be good to buy for the braided lines ?

[@TheParrottBros]

amin anhar yea genuine Caliper and bracketry. HEL lines or Goodrich lines both very good

[@TheParrottBros]

amin anhar www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143783603243 see this item for what I’m on about

[@aminanhar2258]

@@TheParrottBros thankyou for all the help bro

[@AngloSaxon1]

Great video

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks buddy

[@AG-do5xq]

17z 18z upgrade?

[@thegreatgod2447]

do mk5 r32 brake fit mk1 tt?

[@bendrumming99]

What do you think of EBC disks and pads? Thanks

[@TheParrottBros]

I’ve used yellow stuff pads on a track car and was impressed with them, disc wise there fine, i usually use genuine discs like brembo as there a lot cheaper.

[@Eddy-th3kc]

Great vídeo as always, for the v6 or brembo lcr is plug n play or need adaptors for the calipers??

[@TheNorville2]

Got the Brembo kit ,on my TT 225, it came with adapters, But i had to get 10mm wheel spacers to clear the wheel rims.

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for the comment eddy, the v6 ones fit all you need is Caliper and carrier. And the Leon brakes are the same. Tried to cover all the straight bolt on no fuss options :)

[@TheParrottBros]

That’s a great point Neville, it’s always worth test fitting the calipers prior to swapping them over as you’re likely to need spacers in certain cases. Thank you for the comment and thanks for watching

[@burnzybubbles]

The Parrott Bro’s you need brake lines for the V6 calipers too, banjo fitting on standard and male fitting on v6 calipers

[@dimitrist3561]

Just got a quote for the 4 piston Leon Cupra R calipers, rotors, pads, lines etc. 2200 euros, am still laughing. Why not go for a six piston brembo kit at these prices? Well, that's going down the list of todos

[@TheParrottBros]

Dimitris T all depends where you source them, in England they are available used from £300+ when they come up for sale and rebuild kit is very cheap

[@dimitrist3561]

@@TheParrottBros I'd take that and pay to get them shipped over. Any reputable online store I can keep an eye out for?

[@TheParrottBros]

Dimitris T just eBay and Facebook groups

[@dimitrist3561]

@@TheParrottBros Thanks mate. I got so shocked after hearing the price I forgot to ask how much the calipers go for. Are the rotors also redicusly expensive or is it just the calipers and that's what's driving the price sky high

[@scissorzz]

You do decent videos 👍🏿

[@TheParrottBros]

Thank you means a lot 👌🏻

[@markevans5596]

Hi again, great vid, getting through your back catalogue now 😉, do you know if these options you discussed will work on the standard 16" rims? Had mine refurbished so don't really want to change them... Cheers!

[@TheParrottBros]

Thats a very good question and one im not able to really answer as ive never tried. Based on the fact that the v6 & leon come with 18" wheels i would say its unlikely they would fit, 16's im guessing 150/180? glad to see the old videos are still getting watched 😀

[@markevans5596]

@@TheParrottBros ok thanks for the reply, yep not an easy one...

[@chriswolf1277]

The std 225 312mm fit in 16” wheels the r32 fit in 17” same across all platforms mk4 golf TT A3 Leon Octavia and beetle