Audio Engineers React To "Kill 'Em All" by Metallica!

[@webechubbin]

Dudes were in their early 20s making music like this. Bringing thrash metal to the big stage.

[@ajr3071]

James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett were both 20 years old, Lars Ulrich was 19 and Cliff Burton was 21.

[@scottthompson4193]

Thank you Dave Mustaine

[@craigusselman546]

Happy 40th Kill Em All one influental album.

[@carrasco921]

@@scottthompson4193four horsemen jump in the fire and metal milita and I think phantom lord

[@scottthompson4193]

@@carrasco921 I'm not just talking about writing credits, Dave was creatively, an integral part of the formation of Metallica. They down play his involvement in the band.

[@Zeis666]

The reaction on Anesthesia is the greatest example of the difference in the way a musicians and an Audio Engineer think, they listen completely different things they focus in completely different stuff ... and the way it is

[@jasond4949]

Damn dude. Never heard anyone talk trash about Cliff playing bass. Anesthesia is an amazing lead into Whiplash. Watch Cliff em All to see what he brought to the band.

[@PatrickMusilek]

Cliff's playing is great! But the idea of a 5 minute bass solo is not something I need. It would have been better if the band was supporting the solo.

[@CaioHartmann]

@@PatrickMusilek Sometimes just let it go of your personal desires and let the things happend. Music isn't always about what of you think. Sometimes u just need a little bit of context to understand what the musician wanted to say. Sorry if i said something wrong. english is not my mother language.

[@captainkirk70]

Right? Unfortunately context is missing when younger people review albums.

[@stevedesilva4690]

@@CaioHartmann 100% what I was thinking..stop thinking and analyzing and just enjoy this badass Metal album

[@antonyrod1003]

I mean Anesthesia is probably one of the most unique tracks and honestly just an awesome display of Cliff Burton. It's also a track that Robert has been playing on tour lately in between songs, with a video of Cliff playing in the background. It truly does get the crowd going. I mean, you always see the guitars and the drums shine. Why not the bass. To be honest, i really think you should do a deep dive into Metallica and their history. It would give you a better understanding of the band and, most importantly, how vital Cliff was to the group.

[@MedianNest]

It still amazes me how blue that drink is

[@user-gx3cf2ot2q]

You will appreciate anesthesia pulling teeth more if you watched cliff play it live. It really helps non-bass players appreciate the talent once they see how it's played Edit: if you choose to check it out live Chicago 83 is a good quality recording of it.

[@brettweinberg2839]

This guy is a 🤡

[@_Chops_]

“It really helps non bass players appreciate the talent” the song’s still mediocre

[@TheNyxCabin]

The studio version is bad. Live versions are way better.

[@TheNyxCabin]

​@@_Chops_yes

[@mfree80286]

Ahh yes, the $15,000 album... punches way above it's production cost.

[@jochencooper2751]

James's vocals aren't aggressive enough on Rtl,Puppets, and Justice, really?

[@PatrickMusilek]

Yes, they are not aggressive at all. His style is much more "punky" and much less "metal".

[@jochencooper2751]

@Patrick Musilek have another listen to fight fire with fire, Rtl, Battery, damage Inc, Disposable heroes, Blackened, One,Shortest Straw, Harvester of sorrow, Dyers eve, basically every song from the first 4 albums and tell me James's delivery isnt aggressive, also the punk I was listening to in the early 80s like Gbh,discharge, The Exploited, was ultra aggressive and I know James was into 80s British punk

[@beatmet2355]

@@PatrickMusilekif James’s had more what you classify as “metal” vocsls, he’d lose his distinctive timbre and wouldn’t be as memorable. I heard you say he sang best on Load/Reload and technically he does, but it’s not as distinctive as how he sounded in the late eighties and early nineties before those albums. Never cared for the countryesque vocals in the nineties, especially S&M, personally. Honestly, I like more distinctive vocals like James, Ozzy or Dave Mustaine that are more unorthodox as opposed to Freddie Mercury or Dio who are technically better, but don’t have that distinctive timbre that more unorthodox singers have, so it’s no wonder I don’t agree with you.

[@99Doogs]

He's not wrong

[@beatmet2355]

@@99Doogs actually, he is. On so many levels and so many times.

[@jugularmusic]

James did ALL rhythm and harmony guitars on the first 5 albums. Both James (left) and Kirk (right) did rhythm guitars on Load, ReLoad, and St. Anger. James did ALL rhythm again for Death Magnetic. I'm assuming he did the same for Hardwired and 72 Seasons.

[@PatrickMusilek]

Ok I swear I will remember this!

[@smittyramirez522]

According to a recent interview with their producer, there are lots of parts on 72 Seasons from sessions with the whole band, so some of Kirk's half of the riffs were recorded by him as well. I've always questioned Death Magnetic since there are lots of behind the scenes clips of Kirk tracking riffs specifically. Maybe he at least did the odd punch in or two.

[@johnnyriffs]

Yes. Here is from some interviews with producer Flemming Rasmusen even if he is talking about James on Master of puppets: "(...)James was brilliant at that time. It was unbelievable. Some of the rhythm guitars, he’d do them in the first take. Each of the songs on Master Of Puppets features at least six identical guitar parts, overlaid so as to thicken the album’s sound. Each of these was recorded afresh, rather than overdubbing one part numerous times, as is the norm. “I’ve never seen anything like that since, and neither do I expect to,” said the producer. " "-James would put his parts down and I would give him Kirk's guitar and he would put Kirk's part down as a rhythm part. 'Cause Kirk doesn't play any rhythm on the albums I've worked on. James did all of that but on Kirk's equipment. I thought Kirk played some of the rhythm parts? -James would play it on Kirk's equipment. On his amps and his guitars and stuff and we'd double those with James' guitars and sh-t. He's just so damn tight that it would be a shame not to use him for all the rhythm tracks. James knew exactly what the various rhythm parts were going to be and what Kirk would ultimately end up playing when the songs were performed live? Oh, yeah." "We couldn’t move anything in time as you can today in Pro Tools. Because that would mean cutting the tape and that was not possible. Everything that’s on ‘Master of Puppets’ is played the way it is. Nobody’s been fuckin’ around with that. That’s the way it is - simple as that. It just took some time to get that level of precision." “The rhythm at no point was less than four guitars, and at some points it’s eight guitars,” says Rasmussen, who prefers double-tracking to applying tricks later on. “We’d do James’ sound on his guitar with his amp, and he would double that performance on Kirk’s guitar. We’d do Kirk’s guitar, maybe find a new sound, and would double-track that on James’ guitar.”

[@Godmil]

Was that a bass sound effect in the Steek and Destroy chorus? I don't remember hearing that before either 😯

[@Azathwich]

​@@GodmilIm kinda late but it's cliff turning his wah and a fuzz maybe

[@kirashadow98]

There’s some unwritten rules on metal scene that you can’t broke, talking trash about Cliff Burton is one of them, so… that was brave dude

[@garethcraig8902]

Triggered dude lol. NO one was playing bass like Cliff at the time.

[@MetalMilitia83]

For this album, there are many interesting ideas and concepts. This being made by practically kids/immature young adults on a low budget all while creating a new genre of music, the sound isn’t bad. Some may consider it so but if you take into account those things I stated before, it’s impressive.

[@PatrickMusilek]

Sometimes youth and inexperience can be a good thing, as more experienced artists tend to overthink things!

[@MetalMilitia83]

@@PatrickMusilek I agree, simplicity is not the same as bad. Some bands seem to get worse as they age despite having more knowledge of how to make music and more life experiences to go on. After the Metallica journey, I’d love to see a megadeth, Testament, or Slayer journey. They might not be as popular but i suspect megadeth would get a good amount of the traveling viewers as well because of fan base overlap

[@nim4464]

personally, i love the bass part in the slow part of Four Horsemen

[@KabukiKid]

The "Sweet Home Alabama" bit?

[@MasterOfTitties74]

@@KabukiKid yeah cliff does a little bass lead run before Kirk's solo

[@lukefitton7329]

I love the bass on this album in general, especially on Four Horsemen.

[@TotalNightmaree]

@@MasterOfTitties74I think It's Dave's solo

[@KabukiKid]

When thrash started (right here) it was basically punk rock married with NWOBHM (New Wave of British Heavy Metal). This is the most "punky" of their albums, easily. Without living through this time, it is hard to understate how game-changing this album was. Nothing was as fast and wild as this UNTIL this. This is the first thrash album.

[@PatrickMusilek]

Yes I am definitely hearing the connection to punk music a lot more here. And I have been thinking James vocals sounded more "punk" and less "metal" since hearing Ride and Master!

[@scottthompson4193]

No sir, motorhead, and Mercyful Fate are 2 that came before that can both be considered thrash, oh and thank Dave Mustaine for Metallica

[@KabukiKid]

@@scottthompson4193 It can be debated where thrash started... and those bands definitely had their hand, but I think most metal fans agree that Kill 'Em All is where it fully formed. Motorhead's "Overkill" is definitely a thrashy song... proto-thrash?

[@lukefitton7329]

@@scottthompson4193t’s not all thanks to Dave and this is probably the first full Thrash Metal album. There are songs that could be considered thrash before this though for sure like Queen’s ‘Stone Cold Crazy’ and Deep Purple’s ‘Speed King’

[@deletedhero5579]

​@@scottthompson4193Why? I'll thank the main guys that created it and it's sound James and Lars.

[@RC-nj1by]

1:00:19 - Funny part is the slow part in the middle of Four Horseman is *NOT* a Cliff Burton influence....but it was totally Dave Mustaine ripping off Sweet Home Alabama. He trolled the shit out of them and he still can't believe they left that part in. Cliff's only real influence on it was that he was listening to Lynard Skynard at the time. You can find the interview - kzbin.info/www/bejne/a57HqKuwbbGFpNE

[@garethcraig8902]

Yo dude, Kill 'Em All came out in 1983 and White Zombie came out in 1985 and RZ first solo music came out in 1996. This album literally started the thrash movement. Kill Em All was recorded in two weeks with the band not allowed in the mixing sessions. The white Gibson V is the unicorn for these first albums.

[@eggznbakeyy]

he corrected himself later in the video bruh

[@DovidBjorn]

Thank you! Had to scroll through the comments to make sure someone corrected him on this.

[@pnut2552]

I've listened to this album 100 times or more id bet, and im not sure it really dawned on me that they were only 19-20 yrs old writing fucking BANGERS like this whole album... That's makes it more impressive to me somehow.. lol

[@koshekenazamat5083]

we'll never stop, we'll never quit 'cuz we're Metallica! 🤘

[@dinounit67]

It’s clear people don’t understand your content Patrick. Don’t listen to the hate, do your thing! The best part about music is that we DON’T have to agree on anything. Music is a way for us to talk discuss and take in each others opinions and experiences. Do I agree with you about Anesthisia? No! Do I respect your opinion and taste? Yes! Keep doing your thing, that’s what brings me back to these album reviews.

[@ULYSSES-31]

I find it amazing that people think the early albums sound 'bad'.

[@PatrickMusilek]

It's mostly when compared to modern music, but you're right you really do have to put the album sound and context with the time when it was released!

[@ULYSSES-31]

@@PatrickMusilek Yeah, and it's great to watch these reactions as long form album listens. I remember when I used to listen to these albums in the 80s, and even though they were quickly and cheaply recorded, they sounded better than a lot of what was being released in the scene at the time.

[@vvoof2601]

@@PatrickMusilek Sounds great to me in 2024.

[@beirch]

The intro to Hit The Lights is an homage to the song Set The Stage Alight by Weapon. It's not meant to be a "good intro"; it's meant to be similar to Weapon. You just sound snarky when you comment on musical choices you have no real insight into.

[@Adrifrf18]

Big Metallica fan since I was a kid. Big vibes from Costa Rica. Most influential metal band and still after 40 years they are trying new stuff

[@GoldenAxe90]

one benefit of listening to metallica's live versions of old tracks, is the improvement of James Hetfield's voice over the years - hearing "Kill 'Em All" songs with his "Load" voice is just a different experience!

[@PatrickMusilek]

That is one of the things I'm looking forward to the most!

[@zeppelin2266]

I like how he complained about James not being aggressive and not having a scream has he ever even hear james live during 83 84 and 85 literally demon mode vocals

[@popotopo99]

Cliff passed the day/night of my birthday as well. 7 years before I was born, but still

[@captainkirk70]

Perhaps a quick wiki glance before if youre going to do a 3hr video on an album. Also Kill em All was pretty much the first thrash album. That's why they were so important and popular.

[@captainkirk70]

Plus it was 1983 with zero budget. So cut it some slack.

[@PatrickMusilek]

We did look at the wiki during the video and a bit more in depth afterwards during the review portion. But yeah, I should have done that before!

[@johngonzalez7967]

Lots of bad facts you had.

[@bayareathrasher666]

My first Metallica show was November 1983, Berkeley, Ca. I was 14...Bay Area..we are still the epicenter. This album changed everything..everywhere...now do some Exodus and watch Murder in the Front Row.

[@KabukiKid]

Amen... this album was a game-changer... and if you didn't live through it, you almost can't explain it.

[@gkezele]

ive been a metallica fan my whole life almost, but in 1983 i was yet to be born for another 2 years, haha.

[@saul77]

They were locked out of the studio while the producers were mixing it, according to Hetfield. He said there were some decisions made that they would've not wanted. Lars is the one screaming during the Ride the Lightning "I don't want to die" part.

[@blitzer921]

The pedal in (Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth is a Morley fuzz wah. Also a big muff pi and a Boss cs-2 compressor

[@l1245-l4c]

finally! cannot wait to see what you think.

[@beatmet2355]

Now, Patrick, when they sing “Whiplash” live, James sings “You’re Metallica” in the last verse. I don’t think there’s any acoustic guitar on this album. That part of “Phantom Lord” sounds like a clean electric guitar.

[@Ebastine]

"It's not like a song existed forever before you listened to it" ......ORION

[@BillyBong]

I love how an unknown "engineer " knows what tracks should and shouldn't be on the biggest metal band's album. 😂

[@Eric.mov_]

He probably has a more neutral opinion on it because he’s not disillusioned to any criticism like most of the fans are. People are allowed to have opinions that are different than yours man.

[@BillyBong]

@@Eric.mov_ glad you could clear that up, considering I never said he couldn't.

[@MrToband]

I'd much rather listen to this than any modern crap, I don't want to hear a bunch of over produced over engineered garbage, rock and metal is supposed to be raw and rough around the edges, so hhugh!

[@TheParlayQuick6]

It’s funny how wrong they got the early history of Metallica. They didn’t just ditch Dave in a hotel, and the lack of basic knowledge of Motörhead is laughable. They woke Dave up (they were sleeping in a warehouse), told him his drinking was out of hand, so they put him on a Greyhound bus for 3 days and sent him home. Kirk flew in shortly after Dave left.

[@Rick-hh7wt]

I really enjoy your videos man. I like how you take your craft very seriously and listen very carefully to each part of the music and analyze them but at the same time have fun. Your face expressions really do tell me a lot. There would be a part of a song that I really enjoy or not and I watch your expression on it to see what you think and of course your input. I enjoyed the hell out of your 72 Seasons analysis! Great job guys! Thank you. Here we go Cliff Em' All.......lol.

[@Darkages-85]

"That was my favorite solo off this album" ... and it was Mustaine's exact solo while he was in the band that Kirk reproduced for this album's recording.

[@NDawg-gl4nj]

You know the slow section of the four horsemen actually sounds like Sweet Home Alabama

[@JasonSmith-uo7br]

I must correct you rob zombie started in 1985 when i was 20. He started 4 years after metallica

[@PatrickMusilek]

I think we corrected this later in the video! I have been listening to Zombie a lot lately, so I am sad I got that wrong.

[@rosswhite5975]

Haven't listen to this album for a while and is interesting to hear how Kirk's lead playing was so much better back then than now. Playing was so much cleaner and solos were way more interestingly written.

[@MrToband]

When listening to 80s pre mainstream Metallica you have to consider the timeframe, nobody had ever heard anything like this before, to me and my best friend it felt like our own band, a secret very few people knew about, unless you were a massive metalhead like me and my buddy you didn't know about Metallica at the time, to me their 80s output is the greatest heavy metal ever created.

[@STANGERSNARE]

It's currently 83 degrees fahrenheit, and this album came out in '83

[@mrbubble1371]

Man is drinking Windex

[@Huddle_House56]

Dave Mustaine was way too rowdy of a drunk (even for a band dubbed “alcoholica”) for a group of guys that were serious about their music careers and could’ve very easily torn them down with one bad stunt here or one embarrassing situation there. They made a business decision and put him on a bus from NY to San Fran. They were all like 18-20 and 3000 miles from home in 1983 they had no clue how to handle that situation. Took Dave a couple of years to get his sh*t together but he clearly made a good run at it himself.

[@nicibrugier]

Lars did backing vocals at least once, he did the long screams in "ride the lightning". Also, I believe you will like "whiplash" even more when you watch it live. They've played it fairly regularly throughout the last 3 years

[@MrFoo1000]

Can't wait for the Load and Reload reactions

[@sloppiejoe87]

The slow riff in the four horsemen was written by Dave mustaine. He did it as a joke and was playing the intro to Lynyrd Skynyrd sweet home Alabama and changed it up and Lars liked it.

[@jugularmusic]

Says Dave.

[@DarkKastle13]

@@jugularmusic yup, don't believe everything dave says, Dude still holds a grudge 40 years later lmao

[@jugularmusic]

@@DarkKastle13 he honestly said that the song Ride the Lightning was composed of a Lars riff and then the rest was all his own. He said James didn't write any of the riffs for it.

[@ronpaul1082]

​@@jugularmusic he never said that . He said Lars wrote the intro and next 3 riffs were his and he was telling the truth

[@jugularmusic]

@@ronpaul1082 he said Lars wrote the intro riff, then I wrote the next three. Then they went back to Lars' riff, then they went back to my 3 again. Something along those lines.

[@moedarock]

hope you react to Load and Reload next!

[@PatrickMusilek]

That's the plan!

[@Jvjaco]

Looking foward to load ! I think it Sounds amazing even after 20 plus years

[@timkaltenbach3949]

Dudes missed 1:18:42 were they just complety put down the guitar from loud to very quiet

[@the-old-duke]

Did you that no remorse was the inspiration for doom’s at doom’s gate or e1m1

[@extaxt9847]

We used to cover Jump in the fire back in highschool, on bass I could never get used to that staccato walking bass line. It's totally different to anything else Cliff did with them. I suspect it was a McGovney bassline. Also Pulling teeth was what got me into bass, I understand it may be a 'waste' of a track but them being either unprofessional or having the guts to put it on the album certainly influenced my music career

[@jonkehoe7542]

Was wondering if they’d pick up on the “full speed or nothing” in Motorbreath that Lux calls back to

[@PatrickMusilek]

Oh!

[@totopoul]

The version of Seek and Destroy Sting used is from Woodstock ‘99.

[@fakemessiah6780]

amazing video. really enjoyed to hear you in this album. Keep going

[@PatrickMusilek]

Thank you!

[@turbomecatech8102]

I can see the similarity in early Rob Zombie vocal sound, but he graduated High School in 1989 and didn't start making music until '85.

[@webechubbin]

Dude said zombie was making musics in the 70s, zombie was not an influence to Metallica brother by any means. Rob didn’t make it big until the start of the mid late 80s. This was 83

[@K.D.R_]

I listened to this, but I couldnt write notes during it, so now Im going through the video at 1.25x and skimming through it to find the sections I wanted to comment on, so I wont be able to be as detailed. in Lux Aeterna in 2:03, they basically used the same riff as in hit the lights in 43:42. (in this video) About the four horsemen, they actually recorded the original "the mechanix" in the "no life til leather" demo. After dave mustaine left, they decided to rewrite the song, and take out the sexual innuendos and what not, and made about what it is now. And also, slowing the song way down, and adding the slow "acoustic" bit, that iirc, dave mustaine had created at some point, but didnt use for this song. James did record all rythm guitars up to load and reload. in those albums, kirk also played. but I think after, it goes back to only being james. James cannot sing most of the stuff out of this album. One of the reasons they play half a step down live, since the late 90's, so its easier to sing overall, and to try to hit the higher stuff, specially from this album. which is why they also dont play much of this album at all. From metallica wiki: jump in the fire. Written largely by Mustaine. Even when Mustaine was in the band, Hetfield and Ulrich helped him tweak it, hence why they are both credited alongside him. also, lars did do "backing vocals" on ride the lightning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmbYf42JbMySjNk Anesthesia is awesome, patrick "I hate instrumentals" Musilek!!! I dont remember jason playing it, but rob has definitely played a few times. Whiplash was kurt cobains favorite metallica song, if thats worth anything! (metallica wiki) Phantom Lord: Mustaine wrote the riff towards the end of the song's bridge (before Hammett's solo). This riff would later appear on Megadeth's "This Was My Life" on the album Countdown to Extinction (from around 3:10 to the end of the song). About the effects in this album: “But when everything was recorded, the engineer [Chris Bubacz] and producer decided that they wanted to mix the album themselves, and pretty much locked us out of the studio while they were mixing it, and added all these weird delays and reverb and all these things that we wouldn’t have done. That’s why there’s such a drastic sonic difference between Kill ’Em All and Ride the Lightning. There’s a lot of things on Kill ’Em All that we just wouldn’t have done. And there are also things that we had recorded which we’d have liked to have maybe fixed or re-recorded, but couldn’t because of the time allowance. We were just running out of time.” (metallica wiki)Metal militia: Mustaine has been credited with writing the main riff of the song. (metallica wiki)Seek and Destroy - has that solo, and in an old interview with Metallica, Seek and Destroy had already been written, and James said he played the solo, and he played it right. This means Dave wrote that solo. Also about seek and destroy. Its kinda weird, because at one point, I used to go through youtube listening to metallica live, and seek and destroy would occasionally appear. Then sometimes I would go play seek, and felt sorta bored playing, because its actually quite slow. (other than the middle section). Although, at that time, (maybe 2011, 2012), metallica was actually playing all of their songs way to fast for some reason. so it definetly influenced the "song is too slow". About the name of the album "But if there was a race to get the album finished, there was about to be another battle. Over the actual title. The band had always wanted to call it Metal Up Your Ass, which was the title of a live tape recorded in 1982 at the Old Waldorf in San Francisco. They even had a cover mocked up - a hand holding a machete coming through a toilet bowl. But when word came back that the record distributors were refusing to handle such a sleeve, the band had to rethink their cunning plan. It was Cliff who came up with the alternative title, as James acknowledged in 1986: “Cliff said, ‘Those record company fuckers. Kill ’em all!’.” Also, these songs for the most part, were written in 1981. So at the point the album got made, they were close to 2 years old. So they definetely improved quite a bit when it came time to make ride. Will be here for the next one! Hopefully remote chris is back! Also, I would love to have you, chris and chris, reacting to the music that made me want to listen to music. Linkin Park! Although I started with Meteora first, I would you three listening to Hybrid and Meteora, if thats possible! Cheers Patrick!

[@PatrickMusilek]

Amazing comment with a ton of great stuff! It makes sense that James doesn't try to sing many of these songs live. They are so different vocally from anything I have heard on any of their other albums! And I swear I will remember that James played all rhythm guitars until Load and then again starting on DM! And Linkin Park is a great idea! I have their entire catalogue plus some of their bonus/side project stuff (like the Dead By Sunrise album) but Present Chris might not have actually ever sat down and listened to an LP album....hmmm...and just fyi my fav LP albums are: 1. A Thousand Suns 2. Hybrid Theory 3. One More Light.

[@K.D.R_]

@@PatrickMusilek James did play rythm in load and reload, and st anger, but apparently, kirk also played rythm with james in load/reload. About Linkin park, I asked for present chris exactly because I would think he wouldnt enjoy it! hahaha I would be interesting seeing him shit on my favorite pieces of music ever, and what I think to be both perfect albums. Linkin Park came into my life in 2003 I think, when a friend got meteora as a gift. We only listened to Faint and Numb. Up until then, I didnt really care for music. So I asked him if I could borrow so my father could, lets say, "replicate" such cd (which it was already not original). From then on I got HOOKED. Some time later I got my hands on Live in Texas. And I wouldnt go out with my parents so I could watch it on the dvd in the living room. I did that a bunch of times. And in one of those times, it really made me want to play guitar. And thats how I, years later got a acoustic, then a electric guitar. And by linkin park, I also got into metal, leading me to metallica! But linkin park lost me after minutes to midnight, which I kinda didnt like as much, although I do like it more now, when they sorta turned into an electronic band. (my view at the time) Also around the same time I was getting into metallica. So I let go of LP then, and jump into metallica's train.

[@Defensive_Wounds]

Is this the remastered version of Hit the Lights?? That ride is way too up front if it is the remaster! I record, edit, mix and play my band's music myself. All versions I have grown up with the ride was not so up front... 57:08 - why don't you just take your headphones off, spin them around 180 degrees and then place the wrong headphone speaker over the ears? That should fix the left is right and right is left issue for you. If you are talking about the end video you upload, then flip the channels post before uploading?

[@troy8979]

Man don’t shit on cliff lol , he is a bass god …. Fkn fact 😂 such a legend

[@vdawg2224]

They played Jump in the Fire live in 2004 at the all state arena in Chicago. I was there. They played it half a step lower but it sounded great

[@jimmycdos0827]

You raised the question about whether any of Metallica’s later work deliberately calls back to their early material, or if that’s just the way they write. I’m surprised how little I’ve heard people pointing out that “Lux Aeterna” is clearly a deliberate reference to “Hit The Lights” both musically and lyrically. Both songs use bluesy riffs centered on the A string (rather than their usual E) with a similar feel. Both short and fast with a more uplifting, almost “happy” feel as opposed to their standard dark and minor sound. Both songs are about the energy and camaraderie felt at a metal concert, and both use light as a metaphor for that feeling (lux=light). AND there is a brief riff at 2:04 in “Lux Aeterna” that is a direct reference to the bridge riff of “Hit The Lights” (2:33). I think it’s a really cool full circle moment for them.

[@fclefjefff4041]

"a really cool full circle moment" = a ham-fisted, obvious callback they also did in "The Memory Remains" and "St. Anger," among others

[@matshovelkicker6716]

23:53 > maybe said already, but the chorus on "You give love a bad name" by Bon Jovi and "If you were a woman (and I was a man)" by Bonnie Tyler, is the same (written by Desmond Child)

[@davidljubicic9112]

Yes please do Death Magnetic next!!!!

[@PatrickMusilek]

The plan is to do Load and Reload first, because we want the other Chris back with us for DM!

[@Chillton]

What does your google mean by 1975-06? Motorhead was active all the way till Lemmy's death in 2015

[@mfree80286]

48:00 or thereabouts... yeah, James is definitely at a higher pitch than usual here. He was 19 years old, after all.

[@nim4464]

released just before his 20th birthday

[@Daniel-wj7fo]

I saw them play this entire album live at their Orion Festival in Detroit. It's a completely different experience that can't be captured in a studio cut or even live recording. After seeing that show it moved Kill 'em up my list of favorite Metallica albums. Yes, they still play many of these songs and these songs get some of the biggest reactions. Especially Seek. The songs off this album are my favorite at any Metallica concert. There are copies of that Detroit show out there.

[@K.D.R_]

Let's go! R.I.P. Present Chris. You'll be missed.

[@PatrickMusilek]

He wishes everyone well back! He's got some good things going on right now!

[@neilforrest6747]

Nice one again guys. As someone that listens to music, rather than from an engineering perspective, it's very engaging nonetheless. I'm hooked.

[@MBx19v]

I really enjoy your reviews of albums, there's numerous things I don't agree with you about but it's always good to hear a different perspective. I also want to hear your opinions when you do go back and listen to that live version of Seek and Destroy, which was recoded at Woodstock 99.

[@dippyyy]

Lars actually HAS done background vocals once. During the bridge sections of the song Ride The Lightning, the screaming heard in the background is actually lars, you could clearly tell its him on the isolated version of it.

[@cjb32]

I am a new subscriber because of the 72 seasons review you guys did I can't wait for you guys to do load and reload

[@PatrickMusilek]

Load is next, but it will be a week or so!

[@albertschaf6985]

Previous bands members were in was Leather Charm (james) and Trauma (cliff). Kirk would bring his Exodus influence on Ride on the song Creeping Death

[@kbr1656]

Always love the Mountain Dew gag.

[@harrypothead42024]

1:00:26 you mean the, Mary Jane's Last Dance part?😂

[@albertschaf6985]

There were some versions of Kill em All that included Blitzkrieg (after Whiplash) and Am i Evil (after Metal Militia). Give those two songs a listen.

[@riphopfer5816]

I would HATE Metallica if James screamed and barked like these so-called metal ‘singers’ from less melodic metal. James was AWESOME because James could simultaneously hold a tune and drip venom from his voice. IMO, Hetfield, esp between 1987 and ~1992, was the archetypal, quintessential, ideal thrash metal frontman.

[@KabukiKid]

Amen! Metallica was never about that style of singing, anyway. Early on, they tried recruiting John Bush from Armored Saint... and Bush decided to stay with his band and that would be a cool timeline to see how Metallica turned out, but I think we got the RIGHT Metallica with James singing. :-)

[@PatrickMusilek]

The more thrash metal that I hear (which isn't much) the more I am realizing that it is actually more similar to punk music vocally than metal. In that case, then yeah James is a great representation of that style. I heard Carcass the other day and even though I didnt really love that guy's voice, I did feel like that was closer to what I expected thrash vocals to sound like.

[@jochencooper2751]

I don't think anyone else ever in the history of Metallica has said James's voice is not aggressive and metal enough, he's been the frontman of the biggest Metal band ever for 41 years and their name is METALLICA, does it get any more "metal" than that

[@riphopfer5816]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@PatrickMusilek That’s a solid insight, because the genre ‘thrash’ originally referred to hardcore ‘thrash punk’. ‘Thrash metal’ began as thrash punk with more palm mutes and blokes what could actually play their instruments, and play technical solos. Also: that wasn’t a synth on the intro to ‘Phantom Lord’…That was Cliff doing a volume swell through his fuzz box and overdrive. BTW: I agree with you on cross-pan delay. I actually discovered the technique by myself whilst trying to improve the sound of my 4-track tapes when I was 14. I only had a stereo delay guitar pedal, but it still sounded better than without.

[@ZealousPower]

Love how you mentioned Twisted Metal on No Remorse

[@mathewbouse1105]

"new wave of british thrash metal" lmao

[@Miles1302]

Cliff showing what can be done with a bass hes done some stuff that i never knew you could do on a bass

[@Pingkonk]

Being audio engineers clearly doesn’t mean you know much music lol

[@PatrickMusilek]

It's a good thing too, otherwise we couldn't do these First Time Reactions!

[@22bryant]

Phantom Lord intro is bass guitar,,my daughter's favorite song,,Kirk said they didn't get enough time to record this album,,he also said there are some wrong notes on some songs

[@henrihaapala5795]

Really cool that you are a fan of Finnish Metal. Nightwish is a very appreciated band in Finland together with Children of Bodom. I also heard you mentioned 69 Eyes or some other finnish band. By the way, greetings from Finland.

[@PatrickMusilek]

Dont forget Sentenced, Poisonblack, and even Villie's solo album from last year! Oh and The Rasmus were my favorite band for a number of years too! Hide From The Sun is in my top 20 albums of all time!

[@Thequillss]

The chorus of no remorse is used in the game Doom E1M1. People often mistake this for Master of Puppets

[@dannydacosta6287]

Late reactions as always, but in the Four Hoursemen, they have admitted that the slow part in the middle of the song is just the Sweet Home Allabama riff simplified and slow down. I think both Lars and actually Mustaine have both addressed this in the past.

[@righty-o3585]

"Whoah, what was that " .. That, Sir, is Mr. Cliff Burton. 🤘🤘

[@hokral7915]

1:52:35 , actually it's one of Dave Mustaine's riffs he wrote before getting kicked out.

[@MrCanuck111]

You mentioned Rainbow. I would definitely recommend checking out their album “Rising.” It features Ronnie James Dio (Black Sabbath, Dio) on vocals and Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple) on guitar. Awesome record!

[@pnut2552]

To me the first 5 Metallica albums were flawless!! But "Kill Em All" is my favorite by them, and on my top 6 albums of all time!! Love it from the first to the last note!! I'm not a straight up "Metal Head", my Favorite band is Nirvana, but I absolutely love a lot of metal, and really just Rock N Roll all around... punk, thrash, whatever, just love to jaaaam out!! Also, ya may find a few 80's Prince and Michael Jackson songs on my mix tape, a Grandmaster Flash song or two and some 90's gangster rap on there as well... But for the most part, give me ROCK N ROLL 🎸🎸🎶

[@KabukiKid]

Metallica basically didn't write together for the first few albums. They would send each other tapes of their various ideas and they would build off of stuff. It wasn't really until the Black Album where they actually all wrote together and played "live" in the studio together while recording.

[@PatrickMusilek]

I saw a video just the other day about the writing of 72 Seasons where James was talking about how they want every member of Metallica to contribute to writing now. I think it really shows on that album in a positive way!

[@SamKhan-kb3kg]

I so much enjoy your videos Patrick even though I am not in agreement with most of your observations. It's the strangest thing but I like it. Keep it up, I find your content authentic

[@rawbrob1079]

White Zombie started in 85 way after Metallica. Metallica already released two albums before White Zombie dropped it's first.

[@PatrickMusilek]

For sure, I corrected myself later in the video!

[@dinounit67]

Phantom Lord to me is VERY early Maiden-inspired, especially the calmer part (1:52:02) is heavily inspired by songs like Children of the Damned and Murders in the Rue Morgue . The tone, the melodies, the lyrics everything is very much early punky (NWOBHM) Iron Maiden (1979-81). Would love for you to check out their discography eventually!

[@RafaelCDet]

Also important to note that calm part was written by Mustaine, not Cliff, like they suppose here.

[@pnut2552]

I love live music and albums!!! As a great man once said "If you're gonna do it, do it live on stage, or don't do it at all... If you're gonna do it ya better take it to the stage, or don't do it at all!" 😁🎸

[@MrJoeandJenn]

That was sweet home alabama, confirmed by Dave Mustain there in the middle of 4 horseman.

[@cullertransportation]

That is NOT a synth in phantom lord, that is a distorted bass with a wah pedal and he’s using a pick rake up and down

[@joel289]

You had to be there when this came out. If you were 15 when this hit like I was this was the best thing ever. There was nothing else like this. Cliff was a huge influence and you can’t compare him to modern musicians as he and they were forging new ground. They created thrash you comment this is just thrashy guitars - it “thrash” did not exist before this album

[@mpmarques]

the dani california part actually is the sweet home alabama part.

[@deadwaitsoldiers]

James should just scream... Really? Coo story, bro... Solid take.😊

[@ObtainThePain]

1:33:05, Eruption?

[@PatrickMusilek]

I looked up Eruption and I stand by what I said. A rock band solo should always be backed up by other instruments. And in Eruption there are accent notes from the other instruments spread out. Live, its a totally different story. When you can SEE a musician showing off I think it means more, and can be done alone.

[@ObtainThePain]

@@PatrickMusilek I can honestly agree with that, it's probably why Anesthesia hits harder when Cliff did it live. Seeing him play it in front of a crowd is just impressive, a lot of that skill is kinda lost on the album

[@PatrickMusilek]

@@ObtainThePain live its probably a lot more reactionary as well. Not about getting a "perfect take" but more about that "feeling".

[@AnUnhappyBusiness]

You ought to check out the other big 4 first albums. Loved the bored zoom-in during anesthesia. Seriously though, doing a project like this metallica thing with megadeth would be extremely interesting

[@Huddle_House56]

Some live recommendations: 1. Any of the Live Sh*t. Either the Seattle ‘89 show, the San Diego ‘92 show, or the Mexico 93 show. I’m partial to the Mexico 93 one. Do NOT skip over any of the banter with the crowd either Metallica are funny down to earth dudes. 2. The FIRST S&m show in 99. Don’t accidentally watch the 2019 version they did which wasn’t bad it’s just nothing like the original. Great tunes and it’s what proved to me the load and reload stuff sounds good. And James voice from the late 90s is my favorite of the different versions of his voice. 3. Cunning Stunts. Solid late 90s performance that previews a lot of the Reload material and features a cool medley of the older songs. Also again showing off James as one of the great metal frontmen. 4. Chicago ‘83. I don’t think I need to say much more than it’s from 1983 and it’s decent quality. 5. Day on the green 1985. Because Cliff. 6. Nimes 2009 or Mexico 2009. Cool sets and shows how tight they sounded in that mid-late 2000s era. And probably has the best quality. 7. What’s really cool (and I think has been talked about on this channel) is that since 2017 when they started the tour for the prior album to 72S they decided they would upload a few tracks in professional DVD/blu ray quality and upload them from EVERY show and they’ve stuck to it so far on this tour. Pretty darn cool and they’re probably one of the most accessible bands because of things like that. 8. And it’s my darkhorse. The 98 covers only show from the rose land ballroom in New York where they play the entire Garage Inc album. Metallica is an astounding cover band.

[@PatrickMusilek]

We will come back to this list! I have it screenshotted!

[@jamesdumas7391]

Can’t wait to see your reaction to the clipping nightmare of Death Magnetic and the horrendous production of St. Anger

[@PatrickMusilek]

I'm excited as well!