Audora Update & Kronos Sampling 101

In this video, I'm covering the basics of sampling on the Korg Kronos:
How to bring a sample into the Kronos
How to make assign it to a Multi-sample
How to save your samples so they're available when the Kronos boots
The difference between KSC samples and UserBank_KSC samples
Also, the loop I used is available for you to download as well, here:
mega.nz/#!MYw1...

[@forrestperkins6237]

The fact you do this for free is amazing. You're a hero. Maybe one day I'll learn the kronos secrets.

[@willrobinsonensoniq]

Many videos on this subject. This is by far the most in-depth. Looking forward to this series. Thanks for taking the time.

[@liviou2004]

What a good news to see you back David ! Thanks for this vidéo. Very usefull as always.

[@chotonbarua5049]

I've watched so many videos on Kronos sampling but this one wins over all! You've mastered the way to help people understand what you're saying, doesn't matter at what level they are ! Bravo Dave! I've been your fan since I got to know you from Korg forums and got bunches of your samples running on my Kronos.

[@psionic111]

Welcome back, Dave, you're a mind reader. Just yesterday I looked up your old video on sampling, but didn't get around to it. Went to look tonight and here you are with this new sampling video. Explaining the difference between userbank and a regular.ksc has turned on the light bulb. Before I was always overwriting my samples and not understanding why. Thx again

[@tonyodoherty6241]

Brilliant to see that you’re alive! Definitely looking forward to some more of this. I find the disk mode...saving samples..moving things around..backing up stuff, dealing with libraries/space on my hard drive, all rather confusing!. Your approach is easy to understand and targeted just right for those of us that know a little, but would like to know a lot more.Excellent.

[@187onasimp]

You're a keyboard hero! Thank you for putting this together. It helped me learn a lot about how to use the Kronos's sampler. I don't know why they made the entire process of sampling and saving so complex.

[@frasermathieson9767]

Great video and tutorial Dave! I've not dabbled with my Kronos's sampling capability yet, and your vid has given me the confidence to start delving into this feature. Thanks!

[@theelevatepartnership]

Brilliant video and the best on this topic by a long shot. Many thanks.

[@floydkeys]

Just seen this video and without sounding dramatic, its life changing! I thought I'd figured out all there was with sampling and had no idea I could play from the HD and had always played from ram... to make room, I deleted the Berlin Piano and constantly had to delete old songs to make room for new ones....thank you!!!!!!!

[@AngelMTY111]

Thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏻 you have helped me a lot with this video and I can’t thank you enough for taking the whole time to create this explanation/tutorial about something nobody has done, not even korg.

[@kevinsage1047]

So I finally carved out some time yesterday to devote to watching this video and implementing the step by step instructions so as to organize my samples for specific projects into different multi samples and clean up my autoload booting. Thanks Dave for doing all the heavy lifting for us. The sampling work flow on the Kronos is really quite complicated and your step by step help really made a difference for me at least.

[@MartinKrger74]

Welcome back, Dave! Always a pleasure to watch your videos 😊

[@jaustin753]

Im new to the Kronos. Great video sir, much info here. Thank you

[@MatthewWilkinson]

You are the best programmer I've heard for Kronos, I look forward to hearing more. Im in a band that plays 80s rock covers would be great to have some more sounds!

[@mike-majidkhostavan2035]

Thank you for the excellent presentation. Great job.

[@vaiello]

Dave, Thanks for the update and the valuable lesson. Great job, as always.

[@CREATIVEEYEMUSIC]

Hi Dave, thanks for your previous advice, glad to see you back on line and very grateful that you invest so much free time and energy . You really should start charging for your expertise, we seem to be more reliant on KZbin postings as Korg's own 6 Tutorial videos really don't do the keyboard justice. 1300 plus pages in the pdf manual warrant more investment from Korg. Good luck with your future plans.

[@MrMattberry1]

That was brilliant, you are so good at these, thanks

[@jamartin73]

What everyone else said - so well explained. Thank you!

[@CharlesFerraro]

Hey Dave, there's a tip that might help people around the 15:00 minute mark. If you know the tempo and amount of beats in the loop it's possible to calculate how many samples should be in that loop. If you don't know the exact tempo though (like in the example you were using) then guesswork is your best bet. It's just for people who have a snippet of a loop but don't have it trimmed properly.

[@RonaldFigura]

Great to see you back posting instructional videos. Question #1- once an imported .WAV file has been converted to a Korg Sample, the .WAV file can be deleted, correct. If it came from a USB device, the device could be removed and the Korg sample is intact, correct? Question #2- if userbank KSCs are not loaded into RAM but are in fact streaming, what is getting loaded to where? The script goes into RAM to tell the Kronos to go to the SSD and stream from there?

[@AudoraAudio]

1. Correct, wave is only needed for import. 2. Basically a shortcut/alias is left in ram as a pointer, but the actual audio is stored in the hard drive.

[@RonaldFigura]

Great thanks for the prompt reply. Looking forward to your next expansion pack. I'm getting a lot of mileage out of the Toto Africa combis. And they taught me something about programming too!

[@AudoraAudio]

@@RonaldFigura Awesome Ronald, I'm so happy to hear that! Always feel free to reach out if you have questions, I'll always try to help.

[@alanellison6652]

Dave, how do you record the actual sample to begin with? You mentioned in the beginning this Air loop came from your computer. What program did you use to capture it?

[@AudoraAudio]

There are all kinds of software that you can use, but I'm a big fan of Audacity mostly because it's free, open source, and does quite good editing overall.

[@kevinsage1047]

Thank you Dave. What I'd like to know is, "How do I clean up and consolidate my seemingly horrible sample file management and start over.....? Afraid to take the plunge due to fear of losing sounds. I'd like to create one master multisample from which to draw from for my repeating live show....

[@kathnrich1]

Great tutorial...! learned a shitload,,TY Dave!!!

[@kevinkreis4034]

This is an awesome video. Thank you thank you thank you.

[@FranciscoDiazMusic]

I just purchased a used Kronos. And in sampling mode there are a bunch of multi samples created. I also noticed that sampling is taking up alot of ram. I wanna erase all these samples and files from disk so my Kronos can be completely free of samples so I can start from scratch. How do I do that??

[@mattwaters6987]

This is a great video! Thanks so much! 😊

[@paulhorsley8922]

Excellent video very well explained thank you 🙏

[@CharlesFerraro]

Really excellent tutorial. I didn't know the difference between user banks (streaming from disk) and loading samples into RAM for editing. I had actually asked how to stream from disk in the comments of the recent Korg Kronos tutorial vid on sampling. So is it only possible to create user banks with as much memory as you have in RAM? I guess that's not really a problem since you can probably load as many user banks as you want just like EXs banks.

[@YvesLopez]

I’ll take a number 5 combo, large size fries, & Coca~Cola or am I clear to take off on runway 3? (Loll headset joke) But seriously, great videos! Can’t wait for the new stuff while I’m still learning the old stuff. I have all of your packs so far as you already know & I highly recommend it to every Kronos user.

[@AudoraAudio]

Runway 3 is a go... And thanks man! Really glad to hear you like the content :-)

[@diegokioshi]

Nice video. How can assign a sample to another key, in another keyboard region? Im just having pronlems to assing sounds to the center and to the upper region of my keyboard.

[@synthryder]

Thank you!

[@federicoselles5649]

Hi man, thanks for your videos! What I didnt found is... How can I put different multisamples on the same program with different velocity settings?

[@WaldoPepper8]

I read the usermanual x-times but got more confused everytime. Why can't they explain it on a way like you do? Its no rocketscience once you've got the big picture. Thank you for this video and your work.

[@vikrampatik34]

Thanks dear sir 🙏🏻

[@MrAntieMatter]

Welcome back

[@alexandragamingronyno2275]

Hi, can you convert a Korg sample format back to wav file in order to bring it to computer and load to other sample playing devices?

[@rdlaminations3339]

great video

[@czarecki80]

nice tutorial

[@intheblink]

Hey man, I am just commenting on this video because comments are turned off on your latest one. Could you mark the video as not specifically for kids? I was going to put your latest video on my iPad and listen to it as I did some other work, but background play is disable because it is not marked specifically as a video that isn’t directly aimed at kids. Thanks!

[@AudoraAudio]

Oh thanks so much for letting me know! I'll fix it shortly

[@AudoraAudio]

Okay fixed!

[@aquaevitae]

I would like to know from someone who have done a lot of sampling stuff, that how many samples per octave requires to avoid tonal interval break down between the notes?

[@steveboydstun3124]

how can I the In the Air drum loop presented in the video?

[@0101119976]

hi dave i have a small question where else after user g is full can i save hd multisamples program ? do i have to sacrifice original sounds? tell me your recommendations ...i still have lots of hd programs that i wish to add but i am confused and i wish i can avoid replacing any other sounds.

[@AudoraAudio]

Look up the application called PCG Tools. That's the starting point!

[@0101119976]

@@AudoraAudio thx dear .... i looked for it but it is for windows only not mac and i knew now that i have to replace some patches and it is a must

[@AudoraAudio]

@@0101119976 Sorry, no such tool exists on the Mac platform. The only way is to manually load the combis, and programs and map them by hand. Korg doesn't have a proper loading system like Kurzweil does with dependencies which is why PCG Tools was created.

[@0101119976]

@@AudoraAudio tyax for your time dear

[@craigteki]

Hi Dave, Is there a way to have a sample loop change note buy pressing another keyboard key and keep the same tempo while in that Key is pressed?

[@AudoraAudio]

Not natively, no. You can edit samples in the Kronos that will let you do that but it's a manual process, and you need to do it for each sample. You're better off editing samples and prepping them on a computer and bring them into the Kronos when they're ready.

[@craigteki]

@@AudoraAudio Thanks Dave.

[@kathnrich1]

Dave I am trying to load my Mellotron into my kronos one note at a time, have tried almost everything I can think of including your tutorial and still get only one note emulated across the keyboard. I need all 36 notes to play individual Mellotron notes. What can you suggest????? signed,,,,LOST!

[@AudoraAudio]

Okay. You need to make a single multisample, but have multiple indexes. There's a button called "Create" - this will make a new place to put samples. You can assign the key zone range and original key, but you're looking for Index as the main thing that allows you to have multiple samples on the same multisample.

[@kathnrich1]

@@AudoraAudio Ty, Is the key zone to be 1 key, what do i need to make orig note and top note?? When i do as other tutorials also say to "create" I get a "set top Key" message

[@AudoraAudio]

@@kathnrich1 Think of it this way: Orig Note is the pitch of the note (What pitch do you want to come out when you play the key) and Top Key is going to be the highest key that THAT specific sample plays on. On the Kronos, typically the samples 'stretch' down, so you often want the top key and original key to be the same but that isn't a hard-fast rule.

[@AudoraAudio]

@UCXll8NZKcMxGmwOPrkWylwQ The indexes start from the bottom up. Index 1 will be on the left side, index 2 is just to the right of that one. If you want it to stretch it upwards, you need to create another index that extends to the right of the last index you created. If you're not sure, create a new index and assign a sample from there to see what it's doing. Sometimes, using a non-tonal sample will help you figure out what the Kronos is doing when adding a sample.

[@kathnrich1]

@@AudoraAudio Perfect we're in good shape Dave, again TY for your help, days with this, finally accomplished!!!!!

[@christophermorris2222]

Can someone help to clear my question up please regarding sampling/samples. When I create a sample, I have to rename the multi sample, This is the question, should the name of the multisample be the heading of maybe the song you want to create, and the samples you create within that multisample are used maybe for a particular song…. Or is the multisample more of a user bank name for example, My 80s Music so this is where you would maybe store all samples to with 80s, Then maybe you would have another Multisample named electro music, and within this this is where you would store all your electronic sounds. I found it confusing when I click on multisample and sample and see all the samples I’ve made. I thought Renaming multisample would be like a sub directory . Any help would be great full. Thanks.

[@AudoraAudio]

Multisamples are basically an 'instrument', or that's how they're treated. More specifically, they're intended to be a way to allow the user to create their own source samples. So the idea is that you have the lowest tier which is a sample. This can be a descriptive name of the sample itself, like strgtr-mf-C#3-D#3. (String guitar, mezzoforte, C#3 stretch to D#3) but it doesn't have to be that. Above that layer is the multisample layer. This is the equivalent to a combi but for samples. This can be saved as a description of the entire instrument you're sampling. If you're using it as a collection of single-trigger samples for a song, then I'd name it the song name or something like "DarkHorse-SampleTrigger" or whatever. There's no hard/fast rule, it's whatever makes the most sense to you. In the broadest sense, a multisample is like a folder of samples, but you get to assign parameters to the sample like which key it belongs to, which pitch it plays, etc. I hope this helps!

[@dhpstudios2009]

dave help, i did this video and now at a lot off programs and combi,s i see at the top of my screan it says "Samples not loaded "

[@AudoraAudio]

That happens when you uncheck stuff on the global page, "KSC Autoload" screen. Did you reboot already?

[@0101119976]

thanks a for the video ...with the same setup in the video will it work with another kronos or do i have to load again the user bank.ksc? how can i do the same method to immigrate to another kronos?

[@AudoraAudio]

I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you able to give a little more information?

[@0101119976]

@@AudoraAudio yes sorry ....i want to be able to travel and use another kronos (not mine)by inserting my usb stick and just load my program and play...the question is ...will i be able to do that or i have to go to global and add my user bank to use my samples? other question ...when i load my program in the new kronos shall i load the ksc folder too ?

[@AudoraAudio]

@@0101119976 Oh gotcha! Okay, so it's a little more complicated. You'd have to copy the samples, userbank samples and folder to the USB stick, move it to another Kronos, save those files to the hard drive, and load the _UserBank.KSC to start when the Kronos starts to make sure the samples are all there. From there, once they're in memory, the program is just going to reference the samples by name. If it can find the name of the samples, they'll work, but it's making sure they're loaded as a 'library' of sorts that is the tricky part, which is where the copying/pasting from the USB stick to the hard drive needs to take place. Hopefully this makes sense?

[@0101119976]

@@AudoraAudio thank you so much....it's a bit complicated and risky and needs a try ...lucky me I have a friend who have Kronos and I can try this with him .....the other option is to load the ksc samples and keep it there then save all right?

[@AudoraAudio]

@@0101119976 More or less yes. There's a few steps missing from your description, but generally you need to copy the files to the Kronos SSD and load from there. *NOT* the USB stick. :)

[@mrdali67]

Anyone have experience with - if you sample from an external CD Player, if its worth the money to go buy a spdif cable for full digital input to the Kronos ?

[@AudoraAudio]

It's not worth it - you're better off doing sample editing on an actual PC. Pulling it from a CD on a PC gives you a 1:1 digital copy where going through the Kronos would go through the D/A conversion process. If you're using SPDIF (which is possible) why? I could only see this being a situation where you're doing it on the fly without a PC but really it's a workaround to a much better solution.

[@mrdali67]

@@AudoraAudio There is a very good reason to use an external CD Player, as 99% of the CD/DVD drives you find in a computer is absolutely junk compared to eg. a 1000$+ HiFi CD Player that may be even 20+ years old but the quality of the drive, laser and electronics is often worlds apart from the computer drives, and if you think you get a 1:1 copy when you rip a CD on your PC your utter mistaken. Yes its already digital connected to the drive, but it will only pick up what the drive delivers to it. All CD's have slight production errors and all drives have read errors, and especially the cheap ones in your PC. Its where the error correction comes in wich makes a really big difference. You can be sure its very basic in a PC drive where as in a good quality HiFI CD Player, a considerable ammount of the money you're paying for it goes to the 1: the D/A converters and discrete analog electronics used and 2: The error correction system used. On an avg CD without a lot of scratches, your best bet ripping on a CD/DVD R/W computer drive is that if you have under 10% read errors your lucky. Thats why I asked if anyone had tried this. If you were to record something into your DAW that you want to distribute you also propably wouldn't use the onboard sound, or even a little better SB Card

[@mrdali67]

I get that the PC solution is miles better, if you need to do some editing, looping etc. since the sample edits available on the Kronos is well .. zero, zip, nada. I have some songs where I want to sample som short vocal stuff wich will be used as 1 shot, no looping from a CD, and I have been thinking about the external CD solution since I have a good Quality older HiFi CD player with spidif out, but the sound i/o card I use for the PC have only analog + midi i/o connctions and these things I want to sample shouldn't require any editing, hence I will propably record it directly into the Kronos. I have listened to some lossless codings of CD's using a digital connected Hi-End CD Player to the ripping PC compared with my own direct rips from the same CD title using my own, actually not a "bad" brand Pioneer onboard DVD drive, and the difference was quite noticeable. The one ripped thru spdif from external CD Player that a friend sent me sound much more open and well defined, wich since it bypasses the da/ad conversion just like the onboard ones, proves that a hi quality drive do make a big impact soundwise ... ITs nerdy as hell, I know, since propably not even my band members and sureely not the crowds we usually plays for would be able to hear the difference .. its just ... kinda the same as you spending those extra 2 hours making that one solo sound for a song be 95% as the original instead of 80% .. I do that myself some times, and the band says .. you spent the last week on that sound .. and noones gonna notice it but you .. yeah totally right, but I am .. :)

[@valentino1870]

I went to this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/oafXqJd6Zt9sebs and got confused about drum loop sampling. how to get it in program and the tempo variation of tabla loop. Any help???