Chevy Put A Cosworth Engine in WHAT?! - Getting to Know the 1976 Twin-Cam Cosworth Vega

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The Twin-Cam Vega was the Chevy & Cosworth collab nobody saw coming and, as it turns out, nobody really wanted. It was cool on paper, and the Cosworth name was effective in getting consumers' hopes up, but the truth is... the magic didn't last. The Cosworth Vega was good for a hot lap or two and some car show clout, but it was unreliable and hence undesirable. With a production run of just 2 years and less than 4,000 units, it swiftly fell through the cracks of enthusiast "must-haves." But is it really that bad? Find out what Donald has to say about this pent-up, little pony, and whether or not it deserves a second chance.
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@joeepps2412
@joeepps2412 5 ай бұрын
I personally worked on the car Don is driving. I am 71 years old, and it's the 2nd Cosworth I've ever been arround The first was when I was an apprentice at NASA Langley Research Center in 1977. A guy that I worked with had one just like this one. The car you see here is a nice upgrade to the Vega as compared to the 4 cylinder that came in the car from the manufacturer. Regardless still a cool car to drive!!! Thanks Don for mentioning our team and all the work we did to provide you a car that you can enjoy driving and share with everyone!! Respectfully Joe Epps, Audrain Motorsport/Museum Automotive Team
@opera93
@opera93 5 ай бұрын
Ps : thank You, for commenting……I had a thought briefly, on one of these, but ,defaulted in 1976 to ordering a1977 Trans Am/SPECIAL ED/ loaded/Hurst Hatch ( kind of from seeing the “”Black/ Gold 1976;50 TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION TR@NS AM””). Incidentally, my 1977 TA/ SE seemed to be best driver , Driving We ever had..(* admittedly, I had to use HO PARTS, NUNZI PONTIAC, KONI STUFF to power up)
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver 4 ай бұрын
Awesome great story - thanks for sharing!
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 5 ай бұрын
Brings back memories. I never had a Cosworth but I had 2 Vegas; both of which I bought with 4 bangers and later converted to V8s. They were fun little cars to drive.
@redbarchetta8782
@redbarchetta8782 5 ай бұрын
I remember them, always wanted one. But instead I got a 71 Vega and stuffed a 283 4 barrel with a LT1 cam and two speed Powerglide. Much more fun. :)
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 5 ай бұрын
LOL. You were that guy. We could hear you coming all the way across town.
@jesse75
@jesse75 5 ай бұрын
Did you reweld all the body parts ?
@cars654
@cars654 26 күн бұрын
Picked up 4 buds in my Cosworth headed up to the mountain to ski. We passed a Porsche 928 and pulled ahead in the curves but they couldn't keep even with me. We both blew by a state patrolman at 120, lucky he had his head down writing a ticket as we went by. We looked at each other and laughed and backed off the race and gave each other a thumbs up. I was on the street next to a couple of kids in a Camaro with air intake almost blocking the windshield at a stop light, turned green and I took the Cosworth to redline on each throw, I thought they were going to break their necks, how could a Vega be that fast. It was a street sleeper and fun to drive, the engine loved cruising between 3 and 4 thousand RPM and loved to rev. very quick and the sound was awesome. The Chevy smile was so easy driving a Cosworth Vega. Years later after I out grew the car and sold it I pulled on to the freeway and a guy in a SS396 pulled up next to me and I gave him a Chevy smile in my 64 Malibu convertible and he burned rubber at 55 MPH bright orange Chevelle SS396. I miss those days !
@keithroute8906
@keithroute8906 5 ай бұрын
I knew a guy in the service that had two of them. He was the expert on them. One he daily drove to work and the other one was his car he drove on special occasions to keep the miles and condition preserved. At the time we all had cheap muscle cars that could easily dust one of those. I never thought much of them. This video explains many things he used to talk about. It was comical hearing him brag about how great his Cosworth Vegas were. We all kind of snickered back then. An expensive Vega with a special high revving little motor that our three to four hundred horse motors could blow by. Of course it got mileage and could handle well which we could not afford but we just laughed at those Vegas. They were no threat to what we had for moving fast.
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 5 ай бұрын
I started driving during the OPEC days. Sadly, I've never owned a V8. All 4-bangers or V6's. I completely get the snickers and smirks from the muscle car guys. Hard for me to win any water cooler talks with, "No, it's not fast. But it's quick as dammit and handles like a rabbit." Major "fun to drive" ratio. Some V8 guys just can't get used to having their butts that close to the ground (w/road noise) on a daily basis - after years of bigger/muscle cars. I get it.
@Stevie_B_0828
@Stevie_B_0828 5 ай бұрын
The grin on this man's face speaks loud and clear that he's genuinely loving his on-road experience behind the wheel of this time capsule. 😉👍
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
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@TheopolisQSmith
@TheopolisQSmith 5 ай бұрын
I knew a man who purchased one new in 1976. He liked it a lot after waiting for it quite awhile. My best memory of it is it failing to start after a sports car club event the first time he brought it out to show it off. Ignition module I believe was the problem. It was a very beautiful car.
@terrypikaart4394
@terrypikaart4394 5 ай бұрын
In the early 90s, there were two cosworth vegas in the local junk yard. Not smashed, little picked apart. Easy to spot car and engine with hood up.
@1928ModelA1931
@1928ModelA1931 5 ай бұрын
I've always liked the Cosworth Vega. I personally like the dark red ones but I think the black paint must have been more common as many that are still around are that colour. I've seen white and green ones as well. It's a shame these better engines weren't engineered and offered right from the start. The Vega could have been a legend by now. My dad had two of the standard ones (one was an Astre) and they were comfortable cars that felt much more comfortable that the imports of the time but once that blue smoke started from the tailpipe... When Dad's little Astre (sort of a red-brown colour in hatchback form) started blowing blue I begged him to let me take it to my shop class and drop in a small block Chevy or even a V6 but he only considered for about a day and then traded it off. Shame in my eyes. Of course I probably would have totaled it if the V8 had been installed.
@MrSFSTUDIOS
@MrSFSTUDIOS 2 ай бұрын
Great show! I restored a Cosworth Vega in 2011, and when it was hailed on, sold it! Glad I brought it back to life and got to experience it. I realized my '72 Vega Convertible is just as much fun to drive with its balanced 2300 and a weber-carb so I focused on keeping that on the road. I think the seats in that Cosworth you are driving have been reupholstered (the vinyl texture looks wrong) and someone left off the belt guide, that is why it keeps creeping up your neck. You probably could find belt guides for it in a vintage Camaro restoration catalog as the seats are very similar to those used in the Vegas.
@talldude5841
@talldude5841 5 ай бұрын
Great show. I purchased a 1973 Vega hatch back off a high school friend. He already had all quarter panels replaced, and put a large radiator in as well. I love that car even tho it just had the reg. enginye it. Drove it all through college but finially wrecked it after college. It had no rust what so ever on it. I will never forget it.
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
We love hearing fond memories of past automobiles.
@alexanderfafinski9990
@alexanderfafinski9990 5 ай бұрын
Lee and the entire Audrain team do amazing work keeping these cars on the road!
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Alex!
@144Donn
@144Donn 5 ай бұрын
I will never forget: early one autumn morning my father and I were going somewhere. The sun had not fully risen and I saw the silhouette of this car. Dark Blue and its stance seemed so tough. I must have been 15 and I liked the car! But, before I even knew it, the car was in the shop NEVER to be seen again! I believe the engine melted! Very cool to see it again!
@marcoluoma3770
@marcoluoma3770 5 ай бұрын
GM in the mid/late 70s could only be described as hapless. I owned a 78 Olds and it was junk when it came off the line. I traded it on an Accord in 86 and was grateful the dealer didn’t charge me to take the Olds to the junkyard.
@Mikey-zj3co
@Mikey-zj3co 3 ай бұрын
Back around 1980 I bought a used 74 Vega hatchback and, as usual, after awhile that aluminum engine started burning oil. I got a sleeved short block and put a hotter cam, bigger carb, headers, low flow muffler and A60 tires and mags on it. It was my little roller skate hot rod. You hear of all the problems with the Vega but, outside of the engine, I didn't have any of that. Of all the cars I've owned , that is definitely my favorite. But you know what, if I wasn't in a wheelchair I would love to track down a Cosworth Vega.
@mikecyc72usa
@mikecyc72usa 4 ай бұрын
The Vega was so unique and innovative on all levels. From the all aluminum engine to the neat body style to the special battery that had to be designed because of the special rail cars it was transported in, nose down. Funny how the hood bulge and protruding headlights remind me of my Triumph GT6 MK3 slightly.
@The_R-n-I_Guy
@The_R-n-I_Guy 5 ай бұрын
I grew up in the 80's and I don't recall ever seeing a Vega other than on television. But I have always liked the styling of them. Same with the Monza that came later. I would love to have either of them. I would be happy with one that was barely roadworthy
@E.T.GARAGE
@E.T.GARAGE 5 ай бұрын
Love the Chevy Cosworth Vega, I believe it was the first Chevy to have electronic fuel injection, last car show of the season there was a really nice low mileage original owner 75 black and gold one. 👍
@rickolson3114
@rickolson3114 5 ай бұрын
Owned two Vegas both GT models... Fastback and Camback. Always thought they were a nice looking car although under powered. I believe that they had iron blocks and an aluminum heads. The early 60s GM all aluminum 219 V-8s were about the same weight.
@chrisking6233
@chrisking6233 5 ай бұрын
I bought a 75 Cosworth (number 1103) in 2006 and kept t for about 6 years or so. It was a lot of fun. Mine had the Saginaw 4 speed, and plastic chin spoiler and deck lid spoiler, and a white interior. The 5 speed was only available in 1976 as an option. Regarding the seat belt, it looks like this one in the video is missing the seat belt guide that attached at the headrest area of the seat. They were very common on most of the mid 70s GM bucket seats (e.g. Camaros, etc), so tracking a set town shouldn’t be too hard.
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 5 ай бұрын
Great video. I loved the appearance of the 2nd Gen Vegas to begin with. But with both Vega and Pinto, there were known quality issues. This car (per the internet which is always right) had 140hp (give/take) and a '76 MSRP of $5995.00. For context, my '77 Corolla SR5 Liftback had
@therainforest4314
@therainforest4314 5 ай бұрын
To this day I still think the fastback Vega was a beautiful style in the sheet-metal department. I always marvelled that a big company like GM couldn't put a decent inline 4, a V-6, or even a small V-8 under the hood instead of staying with their own failed 4 cylinder engine.
@martinrichelsoph5191
@martinrichelsoph5191 5 ай бұрын
In the winter of 1973-1974 I was working in sales at a Chevy dealership in southwest Connecticut. Chevy issued press releases on the Cosworth Vega as early as 1973 and we had people coming into the dealership interested in one. Unfortunately, the only people at the dealership who even heard of one were guys like me who read the sports car magazines. By the time the Cosworth was available the reputation of the Vega was in the sewer and a person could buy a Datsun 280Z, that was actually a good car, for the same or less than a Cosworth. The stock Vega engine was cast from silicon/aluminum and iron cylinder liners were NOT used. Needless to say the, the engines would wear out well before 50,000 miles and like all cars at the time it had serious body rust problems. In other words the Vega had a reputation for being a pile of junk by the time it was paid off.
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 ай бұрын
My late friend had a Vega cam back wagon as I believe it was called. Compared to the Pinto, it was a much nicer looking vehicle, particularly the inside. However, the poorly engineered aluminum block self destructed at 11,000 miles and he got rid of it. I bought a '73 Pinto hatch back and put 43,000 trouble free miles on it and only sold it when I moved to Florida (no A/C). The Olds dealer commented on how clean and new it looked and decided to buy it for his son in Georgia. I purchased and Olds Starfire - same as Chevy Monza, with the odd firing V6 and 4 speed. Never understood why they made it odd firing? It was a torquey little mother but it had 14" wheels that always felt out of balance. The dealer tried different rims and tires but it still had an annoying vibe over 40-45 mph. That was the last GM car I ever owned. My choice if I were looking to buy a Corvair based vehicle would be John Fitch's one off Phoenix. The plan was to build 500, but Ralph Nader's book, Unsafe at Any Speed killed that.
@johnboydTx
@johnboydTx 5 ай бұрын
😂 Glorious seatbelts .. I'd pull them all the way out and use a clothespin to hold the slack out ..🤷 Vega was a great car for a motor swap 👍 I used a 1964 Buick 300 4 barrel in mine 😉👍 Happy Motoring ✌️
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman 5 ай бұрын
yup, drop a 350 in it & you have a speed demon like my buddy did with his back in the early '80s
@barbarafleece377
@barbarafleece377 5 ай бұрын
At 110 hp that puts it only about 35 hp more than the regular Vega GT. For all the complexity and expense it truly wasn’t much more of a thrill to drive than the standard one. Your money would’ve been much better spent buying a Corvette. Back in the day, I test drove one and didn’t think it was worth the price by a long shot.
@billlloyd4354
@billlloyd4354 5 ай бұрын
Emissions killed it. Chevrolet offered a lot of performance parts for the engine, and 190-230 horses wasn't all that difficult to achieve.
@AxeRedrum
@AxeRedrum 5 ай бұрын
I like it when you smile while enjoying your drive. Translates the fun you're having. 🍻🇺🇲
@peaceforlife.2896
@peaceforlife.2896 Ай бұрын
I have a regular space model 1976 Chevy Vega and it is somewhere to Vega that I learned how to drive on when I was a little boy. My 76 Vega just turned 30,000 miles, and runs like a champ and is very solid, but I do not let it in the snow or get rained on. I would like to get the bright orange repainted to a nice blue.
@stevekehr6768
@stevekehr6768 5 ай бұрын
I had a standard 1973 Vega. Really enjoyed driving it but living in the Midwest it rusted away in front of my eyes. It also burned so much oil I knew I had to add two quarts every week!
@mrc6182
@mrc6182 26 күн бұрын
I had one of these - one of the first 1975 models with a low three-digit serial number. As soon as it was announced in "Road and Track" (or was it "Motor Trend?"), I rushed down to the local Chevrolet dealership, Cable Chevrolet in Independence, Missouri, and ordered one. About a year later, it showed up - and wasn't the same car. Over the year between the announcement and the actual delivery, the performance had been clobbered by additional mandated emission controls. Also important. This is a Cosworth designed DOHC fuel-injected 16-valve HEAD on a standard Vega aluminum block! That head is the only thing "Cosworth" about it. Other? The "turned gold dash" is a decal that deteriorated over time. The gold "Minilite"-looking wheels also turned gray rapidly along with the gold pinstriping. In short, just another Vega - "with aspirations." A nasty, underperforming, quality-control nightmare of a disaster.
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 5 ай бұрын
More context: the 1976 Corvette was rated at just 180hp for the base L-48 and 210hp for the L-82. These were very dark times for (non-exotic/domestic) performance.
@charlesc.6767
@charlesc.6767 5 ай бұрын
This car was a blast to drive in its day . I had 2 v8 camaros and my boss and friend had the orange cosworth that i used to run arands for him in , the tone of the engine and pipes sounded great. It handled good too . wasnt anything like a regular vega.
@markdodge3470
@markdodge3470 5 ай бұрын
The Vega was one of the first to be robotically welded -- we made components for the UniMate robots that welded them. They also pioneered running the pistons on aluminum -- Reynolds 390 -- that became more widespread. The original 2.3 litre had an iron head and all aluminum block, which when overheated, ruined the block. The Cosworth was an innovative design with its fuel injection and stainless headers - my Dad had one. Later you could get different colors, but as far as I know, none had airconditioning as an option. The steering was heavy with its Goodyear tires, the shifting of the (Muncie?) four speed was clunky and the clutch was a bear. GM was an innovative company --perhaps it still is if you look at the C8 Corvette - they even shipped the Vegas vertically in special train cars! My Dad always liked unique cars, but this one was not missed when we sold it.
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
That's quite interesting. Thanks for sharing!
@billlloyd4354
@billlloyd4354 5 ай бұрын
If memory serves me right, it was a close ratio Saginaw if it was a four speed, and a T50 Borg Warner if it was a 5 speed.
@troynov1965
@troynov1965 5 ай бұрын
I worked at a garage in the mid late 80s. I was in my early 20s. One of our main repairs was radiators and heater cores. We had to put a heater core in a Cosworth Vega. It was a pretty expensive repair and the customer was not happy with the bill. Used to see them every now and then but have not in about 20 years now. I know people bought them and put them away thinking they would be worth some money one day but I do not think they ever rose much above the original sticker price. They may be worth more now I do not know. One of my brothers had about 3 Vegas . One notchback , one was a wagon and one was a GT. They looked nice but were really cheap made. I remember Pontiac came out with the Astre (rebadged Vega) and ended up putting a Iron Duke 4 cyl in it because the Chevy motor was such hot garbage.
@E.T.GARAGE
@E.T.GARAGE 5 ай бұрын
Ones in nice shape and low miles have gone up in price quite a bit 💲20k and up easy.
@ronhall3686
@ronhall3686 5 ай бұрын
The Iron Duke in the Astre was a reliable game changer. The Iron Duke was originally a Chevy 250 inline six redesigned with two center cylinders removed and made into a four cylinder for use in the Chevy Nova in the mid sixties. Pontiac installed an aluminum head in place of a Chevy cast iron head.
@troynov1965
@troynov1965 5 ай бұрын
@@ronhall3686 The Iron Duke and Chevy II 153 are completely different engines.
@cars654
@cars654 26 күн бұрын
The highest price for a Cosworth was 48 thousand. Wikepedia ,
@majorfrost8206
@majorfrost8206 5 ай бұрын
A friend of my dad bought one as a grad presentnfor his daughteR. She was a good driver and loved it right up until a hot summet day when the dash curled up like a taco.
@ScenesThroughTravels
@ScenesThroughTravels 5 ай бұрын
The Shoulder Belt looks very uncomfortable , I would have it adjusted somewhat . Great Car and Great Motor 🙏🙏💯💯
@barbararyals-farrand5403
@barbararyals-farrand5403 5 ай бұрын
The Sloan auto museum in Flint Mi had one on display back in the day that had a see-thru hood.. beautiful car
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
This car is currently on display in our museum! www.audrainautomuseum.org/technological-marvels-a-story-of-evolution
@samuelmorado70
@samuelmorado70 4 ай бұрын
I remember seeing one exactly this color in 1984 at a car lot in the showroom. I believe they wanted like under 4000. Looked low mileage. I knew it was a special car then at 18. For under 4K they had a 1971 Dodge Charger with a 440 4 speed and in a beautiful red color and black top. OR A 1967 Buick GS 400 4-speed for 2995 because Nobody wanted a Buick like a Chevelle.i went to the Air Force and i wish i had bought the Buick. Love the Bowtie by the way. It goes with the car. Get it Chevy Bowtie. Lol great review. Hello from Lubbock Texas. You are very articulate . Thanks
@barryervin8536
@barryervin8536 5 ай бұрын
The production Cosworth Vega was rated at an unimpressive 110 hp. All the talk about how fast they were is pure mythology. I was a tech at a big Chevy dealership from 1971-77 and worked on and drove quite a few of them. I wasn't impressed. And then there was the problem with the hard to find and ridiculously over-priced Cosworth parts (and the usual severe rust problems that the Cosworth shared with all Vegas). I guess somebody who would think a DeLorean was a good car might like a Cosworth Vega?
@Stantonv
@Stantonv 5 ай бұрын
First US car with port injection but many owners pulled that system off and installed Webbers.
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver 4 ай бұрын
Awesome look back - just subscribed! These were around SoCal when I was a kid in the mid late ‘70s lol. I like your Mario Andretti impersonation ha 🇮🇹🇺🇸🇬🇧🏁
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your subscription!
@user-tr8dn3tn4e
@user-tr8dn3tn4e 5 ай бұрын
RT: cosworth, Penske and myself. Along with my mercury motors. Came up with a great 2 stroke engine. Details later !!!! See you hopefully soon !!
@cliffwesterlin4016
@cliffwesterlin4016 5 ай бұрын
It looks like the seats were reupholstered with a different vinyl and the hoop for the shoulder belt is missing. If you look, you would see a plastic tab at his chest saying "Read Owners Manual". This tab is to adjust to the hoop, so the belt wouldn't creep up.
@johnmarten4184
@johnmarten4184 5 ай бұрын
I remember the print ad "One Vega for the Price of Two."
@slwtype
@slwtype 5 ай бұрын
Twice the price of a standard Vega and not too far off from a Covette retail.
@abolishwelfare
@abolishwelfare 5 ай бұрын
In the early 1980’s, I learned to drive behind the wheel of a Red Orange ‘76 Vega GT with a five-speed. While certainly not a straight line performer, it was delightfully nimble on curvy secondary roads. The Vega turned in well, braked more than adequately, and the modest horsepower insures that oversteer doesn’t bite an unwary, inexperienced driver. What a great learning tool. I’ve long held the belief that it is more fun to drive a slow car fast, than to drive a fast car slowly.
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
We agree with the "slow car" sentiment.
@johndavey72
@johndavey72 5 ай бұрын
Good evening Donald . Well that was interesting . An interesting comparison against the Vega was the Mercedes 190 which produced 182 bhp from 2.3 litres . I was shocked at 110 bhp ! But l was aware of this interesting car. Thankyou Donald . Have a wonderful and well earned Christmas break , and we are all keen to see Audrain in 2024 ..........!!!! Tempus Fugit !!!!
@lisam4503
@lisam4503 5 ай бұрын
My first car was a 1973 Vega. All I did was pour money into it. A very poorly built car. In the end the piece that went from the rear end to hold it in place pulled out from where it attached due to rust out/stress. Almost flipped the car when that happened. Had the same thing happen when a Vega GT landed in my lap. I kind of laugh at those saying how great they were for V-8 swaps. They couldn't handle the four cylinder or normal driving without falling apart. Really to safely put a V-8 in them you have to put a race chassis under them. Its a shame as I really liked the mini Camaro look of the Vega. GM wasn't known for building quality cars then and more than any of the other big three drove Americans to buy Japanese. They were Rot boxes also in that time period.
@kellymyers5974
@kellymyers5974 5 ай бұрын
I had a 75 and loved it
@slinky410girlmike2
@slinky410girlmike2 5 ай бұрын
Saw an ad in Hemmings motor news many years ago. It was the third one built and that the first two were junked. Same block as the regular Vega. Had a different head. Same overheating problems.
@07ssmonte
@07ssmonte 5 ай бұрын
Where did you get your info from? 0001 has been at Sloan museum complete with clear hood. The Cosworth did not suffer from overheating, nor did the standard vega by the 74 model. Neglect would cause the earlier engine to overheat, and Chevrolet even offered owners a retrofit free through the dealers on earlier engines. They also had a 60k mile warranty on the dura built motors in the later models, and that is the same 2.3 as the earlier engines, not the iron Duke engine.
@slinky410girlmike2
@slinky410girlmike2 5 ай бұрын
Like I said. It was from an ad in Hemmings Motor News. I never checked the validity of the ad as I would have never purchased a Vega under any conditions. Worked as a Chevy technician in the 70's and all I did was replace Vega engine blocks for 23 months. The two Cosworth we sold both had engine failure. The 1974 models for some reason were not included in the Government forced free engine replacement. The people who had 1974 models with bad engines were pissed! The twin cam cosworth gave a miniscule amount of extra horsepower over the one cam engine due to pollution controls added that year. All Vegas were junk. In my and many other's opinions it was the worst car ever produced in the U.S. @@07ssmonte
@07ssmonte
@07ssmonte 5 ай бұрын
Exactly as you state "your opinion " as they sold 2 million of them through their production run, so not everyone was turned off by them.
@slinky410girlmike2
@slinky410girlmike2 5 ай бұрын
Yes, and most were severely dissapointed. Funny how time re-writes history.@@07ssmonte
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 5 ай бұрын
I had a '76 Sunbird (same platform as the Vega). It was supposed to have a guide mounted on the bucket seat to keep the seat belt off your neck, but it had broken off. So I learned to drive leaning to the right and it took me months to get out of the habit when I got a new vehicle. Mine also had the 5-speed. Not a good transmission. Burned through clutches every 35,000 miles, eventually actually bursting a hole through the firewall due to stressing the metal!
@44WillysMB
@44WillysMB 5 ай бұрын
I wanted one of these when they were new.
@dallisb1047
@dallisb1047 5 ай бұрын
I have always liked the Cosworth Vega. I like it even more because Donald Osborne likes it as well.
@naahhhbiitch6431
@naahhhbiitch6431 5 ай бұрын
Saw it over the weekend at the museum
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
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@cabracove
@cabracove 5 ай бұрын
Unibody. Same as the Monza. They need a subframe even for a 327. Or you will twist it up launching them.
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 5 ай бұрын
Woulda been cool to see the Stig drive a Cosworth Vega on Top Gear's test track!
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 5 ай бұрын
I'd guess the Cosworth had only 14" or 15" tires (much better than a stock Vega), but nothing like tire technology now. Some new compacts ('sport' models) come with 18's out of the box. As a younger man I would've been ruining rims and the low sidewall tires for sure (potholes, etc).
@paulbianchi7877
@paulbianchi7877 5 ай бұрын
Last ditched effort to save a real bad car with a real bad motor. It started with a car that has a 0 to 60 in 19 seconds smoking all the way, to a car that raced to 60 on 16 seconds.
@tracyupshaw7862
@tracyupshaw7862 5 ай бұрын
just saw one just like this on marketplace maybe 2 months ago somewhere around the Seattle area. it obviously wasn't as nice as this one, but it wasn't bad everything was there, you find a lot of old cars in the PNW we don't have the salt...
@dkendr6793
@dkendr6793 5 ай бұрын
Maybe it's the trick of the camera but I don't remember Vegas looking this good. I was passed by one heading south toward New York after the Canadian Gran Prix many years ago. It was quick.
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
No camera trickery! This car looks that good!
@williamk5998
@williamk5998 5 ай бұрын
Good looking little car. Sounds proper.
@krazyhorse448
@krazyhorse448 5 ай бұрын
260HP? that would have been way better than the Vet at that time! Too bad they didn't keep it because it would have been a praised car. I had a 1975 Vega and when I went to the service stations I would check the gas and fill the oil. It was too slow to even outrun it's own exhaust! Not to say you would get zero dates when they saw what you were driving.
@JAKPM
@JAKPM Ай бұрын
I saw a cogsworth Vega in a car lot in about 1978, it was cool.
@henryjewell3900
@henryjewell3900 5 ай бұрын
I owned several Chevy Vegas in the 1970s-1980s. They were very dependable cars when maintained well. With all the bad reviews about Vegas they were cheap cars to buy.
@wallycox4579
@wallycox4579 5 ай бұрын
I think this was a fun review, but I have to think that even Cosworth engineering could not save the Vega. Admittedly my experience was with the Pontiac variant, but the handling and feel of the car was that GM wanted to make CHEAP car as opposed to a small car. They wanted you to hate it so you would buy a full size car.
@bobbyquinting3918
@bobbyquinting3918 5 ай бұрын
The Cosworth package almost made it as fast as a 6 cylinder. But the package was better than the steel sleeve aluminum block. It was a designed failure to bring back Camaros.
@peterdelocis7395
@peterdelocis7395 4 ай бұрын
Kind of a shame they didn't drop this engine in the sportier (but heavier) Monza body. Emission regulations were catching up with them, I guess.
@rlsedition
@rlsedition 5 ай бұрын
Yep, I owned a 1976 model, tried putting hotter cams in the engine, but the car never performed to my expectations
@markfoster7564
@markfoster7564 5 ай бұрын
Bought a new 1973 Vega GT, loved driving that car…but, several engines later and fixing rot after 18 months 😢. I kept it for 8 years after getting steel sleeves in the block. Sold it to my brother for 800$ and a yr later he blew it up racing.😢
@jgraham8248
@jgraham8248 5 ай бұрын
Thanks....I really enjoyed your presentation!
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@gamby16a
@gamby16a 5 ай бұрын
I've kinda dug these for a ling time. The design is solid and the cosmetics of the Cossie edition are perfect. Interesting that it's lowered in the print ad. It looks phenomenal with that stance. Makes the proportions so much more lithe. 🤩🤩🤩
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@gamby16a
@gamby16a 5 ай бұрын
@@AudrainMuseumNetwork I've been subscribed for awhile! I live in RI, but still have to get down there to see the museum!
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@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
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@cliffm6566
@cliffm6566 5 ай бұрын
There’s one up for auction at Mecum in January. I’m bidding on it😍
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@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
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@cjonesufc
@cjonesufc 5 ай бұрын
That Cosworth really does sound nice.
@denniskearney2890
@denniskearney2890 5 ай бұрын
This guy nails it a class act hopefully more on my algorithms
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@chriscadman6379
@chriscadman6379 5 ай бұрын
Hello. Merry Christmas.
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@melvinburwell8202
@melvinburwell8202 5 ай бұрын
These cars had an aluminum engine that destroyed the mark. Good looking body though. This would be the only one worth owning to collect. But no thanks for the rest. My neighbor growing up had a Vega. And that car sounded like a bucket of bolts rattling down the street. 😂 ❤💙😁👍😎
@jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879
@jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879 5 ай бұрын
great sounding engine!
@amjrpain919
@amjrpain919 5 ай бұрын
I was always a Mercury Capri RS type of guy...👋😎👍
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 5 ай бұрын
Way to much credit to this automobile. You think he would be trying to sell it today. My step mother had one back in the day and it was average at best. When we are comparing the automobile to the Pinto you know where we are at. The Pinto was worse not better but they are only worth mentioning because they are a part of history.
@jamestregler1584
@jamestregler1584 5 ай бұрын
I always thought that it was cool 😎
@michaelvargas4079
@michaelvargas4079 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting " thank you"
@TimeisReel
@TimeisReel 5 ай бұрын
There was a Dealership that had one for Sale for Years. And I couldn't talk my Dad into letting me buy it .... I always thought they were Special.
@dhstadt
@dhstadt 5 ай бұрын
You owe your father for preventing you from buying it. Despite this video they were horrible vehicles.
@TimeisReel
@TimeisReel 5 ай бұрын
​@@dhstadt😂😅😂...Thanks !!!
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 5 ай бұрын
What was the Chrysler/Dodge compact car (ie: Vega/Pinto)?
@gregdelagrange8573
@gregdelagrange8573 5 ай бұрын
Chrysler never built their own car but did import them from Mitsubishi and rebadged them as the Dodge Colt/Challenger and the Plymouth Arrow.
@allenkranawetter9482
@allenkranawetter9482 5 ай бұрын
I want song in a magazine don't remember which one. A guy put a Cosworth V8 in his 1977 Cosworth Vega
@kevinjachim2378
@kevinjachim2378 5 ай бұрын
I loved my 72 Vega. Bought it in 1987,put a 2.5 Pontiac with the 5 speed from a 1984 S-10.The car was perfect.should of came that way?
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
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@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman 5 ай бұрын
lol the ill fated Iron Duke engine, the same one that was in the Fiero
@kevinjachim2378
@kevinjachim2378 5 ай бұрын
At least the Iron Dude from the S-10 finally had the power to move the car well.lol@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman 5 ай бұрын
@@kevinjachim2378 true but wasnt that great of an engine, didnt last long in production! I had an '87 with it & it blew a head gasket & warped the head! Also had an '85 with the 2.8 V6 & it was a lot better motor but the best one I had was an '91 with the 200hp W Code Vortec 4.3 V6, it was basically a V8 minus 2 cylinders
@roberthoffhines5419
@roberthoffhines5419 5 ай бұрын
It's a shame that at that price point, they didn't do something with that homely Vega face.
@allenkranawetter9482
@allenkranawetter9482 5 ай бұрын
Many years ago I was visiting family in perryville Missouri . Which is in Southeast. Missouri. I saw one for sale for $1,500 🤔 it didn't look bad I never saw it again so I'm assuming somebody bought it. I couldn't I didn't have the extra money ☹️☹️
@mortimersnerd9991
@mortimersnerd9991 5 ай бұрын
Nice car. I wish more cool cars WITHOUT v8s were featured.
@I-Libertine
@I-Libertine 5 ай бұрын
The black and gold is just beautiful.
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@joshuarosen465
@joshuarosen465 5 ай бұрын
Don's remark that the Vega was not built as well as the Pinto is the most damning review of a car that you could imagine. Putting a Cosworrth into a Vega is the literal embodiment of putting lipstick on a pig.
@cars654
@cars654 26 күн бұрын
My pig would go from 0 to 60 in 7 seconds !
@jnzkngs
@jnzkngs 5 ай бұрын
As long as it is legal to ride bicycle in traffic to go buy smokes, it should be legal to buy and drive new cars with no more safety equipment than these have. Just imagine what a car like this would be able to get for mileage with the modern turbo 4 and a 6 speed.
@eddiegardner8232
@eddiegardner8232 5 ай бұрын
When people my age hear "Cosworth Twin Cam" thoughts go to the 3-Liter DFV Ford V8 that Cosworth designed and built for the Lotus 49B that Jim Clark raced in F1. This car is no Lotus and Colin Chapman had nothing to do with its design. It's just an old Chevrolet Vega with an OK small engine for its time. The Corvette was a much better car for the price at the time.
@Koulis_
@Koulis_ 5 ай бұрын
I'd be surprised if Cosworth were to blame for the poor reliability as they have a good reputation in that area. Sometimes the problem lies in the installation, Maclaren F1 found that out the hard way when they partnered with Honda and rushed the development of the engine inside the tight engine space. Honda went on to win championships with Red Bull Racing.
@cars654
@cars654 26 күн бұрын
Put 90k on mine and sold it. I outgrew the car and parts were hard to get . Only had one problem with the Bendix electronic fuel injection. It would idle at 75 RPM as I drove it to the Cosworth expert at the dealer, it was a broken wire. Name me any engine that will idle at 75 RPM to drive. After that only miner maintenance .
@AmraphelofShinar
@AmraphelofShinar 5 ай бұрын
My late neighbor had one of these.
@garydesgres1382
@garydesgres1382 4 ай бұрын
They were $6000.00 new, They can be had now, in nearly perfect condition for $15,000.
@cars654
@cars654 26 күн бұрын
The highest price for a Cosworth Vega was 48,000 Wikepedia !
@markmoses7300
@markmoses7300 5 ай бұрын
Boy that went over like a turd I had a 73 with 350 Corvette love the car but I traded it to shop to get a two broken head bolts out of 66 Fairlane
@user-pm4fw7gd7q
@user-pm4fw7gd7q 5 ай бұрын
My brother bought one of these in 1976. I renamed it the Cosworthless Vega. That engine was a piece of crap. It spent more time in the shop than the garage. I went with my brother from Mpls to OKC and by the time we got there it was running on 2 cylinders. That was just one of the many times it failed. Good riddance to that piece of crap.
@cars654
@cars654 26 күн бұрын
Sounds like over rev and a missed gear assignment !
@i976scirocco3
@i976scirocco3 5 ай бұрын
I actually thought we were going to make it through a whole episode without Donald over-pronouncing something. We were so close..... I'd hate to be around him when he orders a burrrrrrrito !
@MrEyesof9
@MrEyesof9 5 ай бұрын
I love the bow tie
@AudrainMuseumNetwork
@AudrainMuseumNetwork 5 ай бұрын
Plenty more where that came from!
@TomPauls007
@TomPauls007 5 ай бұрын
Kinda like putting a 60's hemi in a Studebaker! "lipstick on a pig?" If they took all the emissions crap off the mill, the car would have performed very reasonably.
@allenkranawetter9482
@allenkranawetter9482 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure your team replaced the timing belt
@eaglewi
@eaglewi 5 ай бұрын
How is it compared to the monza
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