Austin Carlile // Session 1 Vertical Identity Conference

Austin Carlile shares his testimony of faith, hardship and redemption at Calvary Chapel Old Bridge's young adult 2019 Vertical Identity Conference.
Austin, formerly the frontman for Of Mice & Men speaks about the grace and forgiveness he has experienced through his relationship with Jesus Christ.
Calvary Chapel Old Bridge Website:
www.ccob.org/
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[@ThisxFate]

"How many of you wanna open this pit up rn"

[@benxgoh]

LOL

[@leonsaadiq7628]

I can so picture him saying that in his calm almost whisper voice!

[@yazansakran3326]

F#$%^!!!!!! These are the hardest four years of my life, They walk right by me heads turned with closed eyes They don't even see me............

[@reecejaxen8112]

i know Im asking the wrong place but does any of you know a way to get back into an instagram account..? I was dumb forgot the login password. I love any help you can offer me

[@Ryangr7]

Hahah that comment made my day

[@kimberkan]

HERE SINCE ATTACK ATTACK AND HERE FOR U NOW AUSTIN

[@RamaFuckingRama]

Amen!

[@SMGbird]

Same here

[@bigyikes5958]

Wait he was in attack attack-

[@AdvEug]

Hes still my favorite. If guns are outlawed can we use swords will always be one of my favorite songs.

[@barndencactus]

@@bigyikes5958 have you not listened to the Someday Came Suddenly album?

[@amandastrausbaugh4522]

Of mice & men and Austin specifically got me through so many tough times. What an amazing a beautiful soul. While I am not religious, I so greatly admire his love for God

[@SoGroovy8]

You're really cute

[@mokeozinga7290]

There are so many better bands, regardless.

[@Zavae01]

I can't agree more. ❤️

[@alexlalrosanga9464]

He look so weak but inside he is strong..God is with you

[@naturallyjosh]

I’m not even religious and I’ve always loved this man. Stands true and true with his convictions. I love that.

[@aidenpilot3119]

Made me tear up multiple times. Love you Austin, God bless you brother.

[@johnny_b_dude]

You can see he is speaking from his heart, I respect that. Even if you are not a believer, you are still a human.

[@minimvl]

speaking from his wallet homie. this shit is obviously corny and fake

[@gnod6918]

Brad Pitts How?

[@manuelzamalloa4618]

I am actually happy for Austin. He is such a great person. Hope he continues to make music in the way God wants him to.

[@NixMusic99]

This is the message that saved my life. Stopped me from suicide and me to God in one night after pushing away for so long. Thank you Austin. You helped me find god and here I am alittle over a year later and the progress I’ve made in life and getting closer to God is amazing. I never thought I’d make it this far, I’m forever thankful. Thank you Austin. God Bless you

[@loveisrequired8693]

I used to love his band I even met him way back at warped tour and I’m glad to say I am now the process of deliverance. God is good ✨

[@cofthewcolorsofthewind846]

I really love his gentleness. He inspires me so much. I love the authenticity. I love this. Thank you Austin Carlile

[@TheBlack343]

When a lot of those people don't realize their receiving a message from the lead singer of two major bands from mid 2000s top 2010s, that helped defined Metalcore.

[@hyst6081]

i may not agree with him religiously, but i respect the hell out of him. he’s honestly one of the most inspirational people i’ve ever come across.

[@adamsellick8116]

Same

[@jeragaming4923]

His story as a movie would be so cool!

[@thomasmarchese2808]

Facts.

[@Nightwing300]

I was at that slipknot Marilyn Manson concert with mice and men in Cincinnati Ohio great show glad to see his doing well.

[@DalilaOsaki]

It makes me feel so sad that he felt that way about the band. Beautiful music, so talented, I’m thankful the band happened even if it was for the wrong reasons because those songs mean a lot and they can make a bad day a little better

[@michaelabowen7807]

Dalila Lopez he had no choice really.

[@callieeoops]

i was here 😭 it was such an honor

[@graveraider1029]

What a good dude, a big inspiration. His story reminds me to be humble. I listened to his music back when I was a young teen, which I was so thankful to have apart of my life.

[@tinkalikeangelok6939]

Watching this and listening back to their music, I begin to relate even more, its heart wrenching

[@chaddavis2992]

I also lost my mom, 25, 2 years ago, it has been hell in a way, I didnt exactly do what he did but I understand the emptiness and rage. It consumes you and those around you that love you have no choice but to sit and watch because you wont accept help, and you do try to better yourself and you just fall off again. But you have to understand as bitter as it feels, if you want to keep going, time does help.

[@Cdecker2018]

Austin is one of my most favorite people in the world and I'm so proud of him for finding his way and not being ashamed of it ❤ love him always!

[@the_the__empty]

hes such a beautiful person with beautiful spirit. i have so much respect for him im so happy hes doing good

[@ionlycomment126]

Considering how I've followed Austin since the days of Attack Attack! it's incredible seeing a different man on stage to the one I saw back in 2014 when I saw him live. Shows what the power of Christ can do, glory to God :)

[@johnfinkle1788]

I still jam Attack Attack! First album to this day! The others aren’t as good without Austin

[@faithbradley4224]

I will listen to this guy all day and not eat bored

[@fireinthedugout7620]

I can only eat bored with mayo.

[@ryansixx9793]

I ain't a believer but Austin has such a good impact on my life and no matter what he does I'll support him I'm glad he's happy were he is

[@anthonyjanes9858]

I imagine him and Garrett rusell could change perspectives

[@ryan.miller0321]

Love his metaphor at the end. Changed the way I look at my relationship with the Lord. Been a fan of Austin for a very long time and became an even bigger fan after his transformation. Nothing but love ❤

[@secretivesolitude8233]

Amazing amazing testimony from Austin. This was so relatable as I grew up listening to him and his band and have also changed and evolved so much myself in my life. Kudos to him for being so open and real.

[@zro2843]

For those who don’t know (doubt there’s many) if you want to hear him scream his pain through music...Of Mice & Men- Second and Sebring.. great song.

[@MemeGang420]

LOVE that song! This is not, what it is only baby scars, I need your love, like a boy needs his mother's side.

[@Shnoz16taylor]

Where my Christian Metal heads at!? :D

[@jeeemmm]

Hi

[@Jrclego1998]

Right here 🤙

[@greyvandaar]

🤘

[@2percentmusic204]

Present

[@jordysworld2799]

Here I ammm

[@isaacy.3227]

I was disappointed when I had to miss an OM&M show last week because I was scheduled to speak at AWANA at my church. While giving the beautiful gospel message and teaching God's patience with us to these precious little souls, I was wishing to be in the pit and jamming to Earth and Sky live. I am now put to shame, yet grateful things were how they were. Hearing Austin's voice, the one I would practice my screams to in 10th grade, read that verse from Philippians 3 with that heartfelt love and conviction... I'm in shock, in awe, in amazement. Wow. God is good. Why am I still standing with one foot in both lanes?

[@can1beatme]

Gay

[@jayburriswayne5403]

Austin: "Who's here has a favorite worship song?" Me: "Product of a Murderer"

[@mosesmakaveli3053]

THIIIIIIIS KEEEEEPS ME HIGHHHHH

[@squishypeanut42]

THIIIISSS GEEETSS ME BYEYEYEYYYY THE DRUUUUUGGGSSS THAT KEEEP MEE HIGHIGHIGHIGHIGH

[@wc2482]

Met Austin a few hours before the conference...such a genuine gentleman and THANK YOU for giving me a little piece of your time!

[@KuysLanceVLOG]

I Really Love Your Music Man Austin and I Really Make My Head Bangin With Your Band Of Mice and Men! 💪😎🤘🙏♥️💯

[@daniiv4325]

Very inspiring Austin I grew up in church and I’ve swayed away and you’ve helped me re gain that connection I had lost

[@anthonylizama2891]

ATTACK ATTACK!!!!! WHERE U AT????

[@texmex321]

Anthony Lizama YAHHHHHHHH !!!!!

[@seanygee333]

Someday Came Suddenly makes a lot of sense now.

[@heatherthomas4603]

Wow. That was beautiful Austin. ♥️

[@KingOfThe850]

i love this man so much

[@Neitha98]

Congratulations to him, he proposed today and she said yes, he diserve happiness 🙏🏽

[@cofthewcolorsofthewind846]

He proposed to who?

[@Nostalgicmania80s]

I can understand why these were the worst years of his life:( the music often sounded like him crying out for help and I felt that

[@ineedmorememesandlesslife3875]

Never been into religion or religious things but I'm here to listen to this

[@cofthewcolorsofthewind846]

I love this man

[@yiannatzimas4492]

At least he had a amazing career, I’m hoping that not all of it was not the worst! Especially with all the fans of mice of men have brought together 💕 sending love

[@prepperandson1399]

I never like of mice and men I'm not even religious at all but I respect this guy

[@SEVN_1795]

wow I used to listen to him and off mice men before, but I never knew his story till now. I feel him when he left the heavy music to follow God

[@eyelovebrothersmusic]

Thankyou

[@jenniferoberdorf6611]

Amazing and moving!

[@liltrini05]

I'm kinda surprised he didn't mention ATTACK! ATTACK! in his testimony. On a real note tho... this really blessed my heart

[@adrianlopez8203]

Justin Joel he never mentions ATTACK! ATTACK! Anymore

[@liltrini05]

@@adrianlopez8203 is there a reason as to why?

[@Crustyfart123]

@@liltrini05 because attack attack sucked ass lol

[@-bluehour-6272]

Or Mitch. I was expecting him to tell a story about Mitch.

[@FTG777]

Seems to be a sore spot cus I’ve noticed that as well.

[@Zack-vn7dt]

I've always looked up t o Austin. Such a kind and humble person.

[@paigebeaver8091]

He looks so different...

[@Tyler-hr8hj]

Paige Beaver he’s even skinnier now than before, but I think it’s his radiant joy that’s more noticeable to me.

[@closinginonclosure]

Paige Beaver Drugs are a bitch. He’s hooked on painkillers bad. His Marfans causes pain which caused him to get pain meds prescribed and he’s been hooked bad on them for a while now

[@gee_ruiz]

closinginonclosure how did you become aware of this info?

[@KevinQ25]

@@closinginonclosure He's not anymore. He was.

[@closinginonclosure]

@@gee_ruiz Can't say exactly because I don't want Austin to somehow find out I'm talking about it and get pissed at me. I know Austin. I'll say that much. He's a good man, but he's gone through a lot and bottles a lot up. I hope he gets some help and gets better.

[@TomyBoyMet73]

Awesome testimony!

[@ericvalverderosado2046]

OM&M actually helped me in my quitting from church process 🤣🤣🤣 and helped me in my darkest nights. when that holy entity was not there for me Metal was, I’m just glad that Austin is alive and hope someday he goes back to the band, will never be so strong without him

[@tartnation]

Of mice and men they rock

[@markpaultajantajan2819]

Cold World was one of my fav album..👍

[@Mist_R]

"When you get baptized without having a relationship with Jesus Christ? You get wet. And that's it." Facts haha. And that applies to any other religious/spiritual tradition as well.

[@sunnymckenzie1522]

Yes but him finding where his heart stands with God has brought him strength in a way, but just imagine losing someone you where so close to and then eventually figure out you have the same experiences, this man is so much more than the world even knows about strength. I couldn’t imagine how angry he was after losing his loved one, and all the shit. He went thru, not with just the band but with false lovers aswell ): he deserves all the love from us fans and all that we gave him, God aswell but, God gave us him and he gave us such a good long life time messages in his song when we were all going through our own things even if it was angry sounding...but hey we all aren’t perfect are we?

[@wham9361]

I miss you Austin :(

[@danleonne937]

He's gone????

[@wham9361]

@@danleonne937 he left Of Mice & Men

[@danleonne937]

@@wham9361 oh good. I thought you meant he passed away

[@IzhakIb]

Off topic but doesn’t the reflection on the back mirror look like an grumpy owl face?

[@dustinthewind27]

Izhak Ib 😂

[@dustinthewind27]

Yes

[@stephan97]

Looks like one of those penguins from Madagascar 😂 can’t remember his name but if u know u know

[@iwishtobetexan6060]

Can u guys pray for me? This girl I love might have to move far away in about a month. Please pray that her dad can find a job close by so they can stay. They have to leave because he needs to get a job. Please pray that he will get a job that can support him and his family so they don't have to move. Please pray for them and me. I feel like I might lose her if she moves.

[@-bluehour-6272]

I'm surprised he didn't talk about Attack! Attack! Or Mitch, but it's good to see him happy. I love you Austin🖤🖤🖤🖤💜💜💜💜

[@lolastarry]

Love you Austin

[@pablinkellinquinn3210]

AUSTIN I MISS YOUUU

[@zoielemons54]

LOVE YOU AUSTIN. DO WHAT YOU DO BABY. YES.

[@laceytucker851]

Austin: I'm no pastor Also Austin: okay, this is the last part, promise *continues for 20 more mins* Lol I think you basically got it, buddy. But srly, love this man

[@RomanSwak]

I am not religious, and I think Austin carried on a bit much about religion, but his message is very important here. You can be living the dream, but whatever you truly feel inside you, is what's real. Search for your own happiness, whether you find it through a deity or not.

[@danieleverett4213]

He is at a Christian conference, what else do you expect?

[@RomanSwak]

@@danieleverett4213 Funny enough, when delivering this message, I find that establishing an equal basis of well-being with your listeners is important. Austin did fine, but if he extended a hand to those who don't believe in his words, he would win that crowd over a lot easier. At the end of the day, it's all about being positive and fighting for happiness and wisdom. That knows no religion.

[@danieleverett4213]

It's not necessarily about "winning a crowd over", the Christian message is what it is (also, the primary audience was the crowd and not folk such as ourselves). If those in the audience don't like it that is totally fine, there are plenty of other speakers out there who would talk like you describe.

[@magiebrennan]

@@RomanSwak I think you're a little misguided and missed the point, considering this is a Christian conference posted on a church's KZbin account. This has nothing to do with winning a crowd over. It would've been insincere if he catered and curated his talk to "win them over"

[@Jmack7861]

It’s at a church and a Christian conference, chances are 99% of the people there are already Christian

[@luigitedjoputro3056]

As a fellow Christian metalhead, i respect his totality. I cant sing to slayer's disciple, megadeth's old satanic stuff and lot more.

[@Hectoralejandroguerrero]

UM WHAT????? I GREW UP GOING TO THIS DUDES CONCERT!!! He speaks now???

[@thewhitewolf4968]

Every person has their own inner demons. Maybe he wasn't ready to speak about it

[@Neitha98]

If you really had interest in him you would have know....

[@texmex321]

you are old

[@cybergproductions589]

Amazing. Very moving.

[@ghostkid4609]

“I’m delighting in you”

[@iancaulk5537]

When he said he was a big fan of his mother, I thought of Second and Sebring instantly. Dang...

[@siim605]

At least he seems happy, good for Austin. A lot of Christians are unhappy because of how the doctrine of hell induces anxiety.

[@CoverBrazilian]

siim605 Thats not true at all, but ok.

[@siim605]

@@CoverBrazilian You're kidding, right?

[@CoverBrazilian]

siim605 No.... you’re clearly not a Christian, and have no idea what you’re talking about.

[@siim605]

@@CoverBrazilian Whether I'm a Christian is besides the point. The doctrine of hell palpably creates distress in many people, especially children.

[@epicdude98]

siim605 it gave me hope knowing I won’t be going there because I have Jesus. It’s the other way around my friend...

[@viniciusvieira8113]

Como Deus é maravilhoso

[@DarkFright]

The guy from Ontario is me 😁👊🏻

[@iriiises]

helll yeah bro i’m so jealous you got to hear him speak

[@DarkFright]

Emma Burke I took a road trip with little to no money on me just so I could meet my Idol, if that’s not dedication then idk what is 🔥💪🏻

[@Meechy37]

I'm glad he's happy now. I'm still sad that he fell into religion.

[@kathryndavis2532]

I was all for it and with him until about the last 10-15 minutes when he started saying that “God wanted and needed my mom to die so I could learn.” God is LOVE, and nothing but that. God did not WANT to do that, nor did He. The devil did that, and yes God allowed him to because he has the key to universe, and because we have free will. And God is so gracious that he USED THAT PAIN to transform Austin into the man of God that he is today. I’m sorry, but I’m not sorry. That’s the damn truth. God is love, not disease, not death, not illness, not addiction, not pain, not depression, not self hatred. He. Is. Love.

[@autotheist]

boooooooooo. boooooooooo

[@whodoesntloveMikey]

i love this, ive seen of mice and man, in jersey twice, but you can still make christian metal? i grea up on this band and austin carlile was a huge part of gettin gme through my days. i am so proud and connected to him because i am christian musician too, so glad he loves Yeshua/Christ, but YOU CAN MAKE CHRISTIAN METAL, turn the devils game on his own ass. love you austin

[@kmaking007]

Very late response but metal music will be very hard for him to get back into. Marfan syndrome prevents healing to some degree and Austin while screaming for Attack Attack and Of Mice & Men was ripping the connective tissues to the spine at the back of his neck. Among many other injuries from touring I hope he starts singing again but I don't know how much screaming he'll be able to do.

[@s-rankpashakuzu2915]

powerful shit man

[@KingOfThe850]

i love austin so much..🙏😭

[@saxon4610]

I DONT REALLY THINK, THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT IVE BEEN, THROOUUUUUUUGGHHHHHHHH, WHAT IVE BEEN THROUGH!

[@brettwodon5896]

I don't understand this story. He says at 19 he started a band to scream his anger at God and then says he got bigger and bigger. But AA! didn't even start until he was in his early 20s. And they had extremely Christian lyrics.

[@fozc]

I took him saying that as his musical career as a whole

[@CaffeineFreak13]

Doesnt mean AA was his first band, genius!!

[@brettwodon5896]

MonstaFreak13 yes but he starts the story saying he made a band at 19 and then continues to tell the story of Of mice and men. Not what happened.

[@CaffeineFreak13]

@@brettwodon5896 thats my point. He went from "starting a band" to "touring with giant bands". Instead of explaining every band hes ever played in, he just told the plain and simple version of his entire career.

[@laynesabo]

He’s right about the restaurant thing lol I did the same shit😂

[@The1993luffy]

I listened to most of the thing, to be more precise, until he started with the bible verses at 51min, the religious talk really got on my nerves. I am somewhat at war with God too, so yeah. But i see that Austin seems to be happier, so i am glad for him. Hope he has a better place where he can have peace and happiness.

[@longlivejedrick]

You will never win that war.

[@livinglifeless4535]

Oh yeah his Chirstian now 🤘

[@evandrojunior189]

Legenda em português nesse vídeo por favor 👊🏻💙

[@lucaspintosoares]

Im brazilian and my english isnt so good. Anyone please resume to me what he is saying? I was a big fan of this guy in of mice and Men.

[@rudanck]

Brasileiro aqui, resumindo... O cara passou a vida toda com raiva culpando Deus pela mãe dele ter morrido enquanto ele era jovem, dedicou todas as forças dele nessa raiva que ele traduzia em música, passou por muita coisa até que ele se deu conta do que estava fazendo com a própria vida. O ponto é que ele cresceu sendo cristão e teve umas tragédias no caminho, se revoltou e depois de anos sentiu que deveria largar o "mundão" e voltar a ser cristão de fato. Ele comenta sobre quando ele começou a sentir isso e ainda queria estar na banda, das doenças e cirurgias que ele enfrentou enquanto estava na banda e que enquanto esteve nessa época do Of Mice and Men "Foram os piores 10 anos" da vida dele (no contexto geral da vida e a banda acabou fazendo parte disso). Comenta que mesmo com todo o sucesso e "amigos" ele estava vazio.

[@lucaspintosoares]

@@rudanck Muito obrigado pela resposta :)

[@thiag0sales226]

@@rudanck mesmo com todo o sucesso que ele fez com a banda, cantou ao lado de chester, um sonho pra todos, ainda foram os piores 10 anos da vida dele?

[@rudanck]

@@thiag0sales226 segundo o que ele disse no vídeo sim.

[@rosethornemckinley872]

I want to go to your church and me

[@younglobwedge]

What is with the delivery tho? I'm all for one immersing themselves in their faith, but why is he talking like that?

[@brandoni.fernandez6059]

That's how some churches deliver their messages. In certain denominations it's normal to give a testimony in casual sounding tones and a lot of the times when they are trying to talk to an audience like a normal conersation it comes off a little awkward but still good I think.

[@ivanmendes6121]

Judging the delivery over the content…insane.

[@mosesmakaveli3053]

It saddens me that he feels that way about the band that I love so much that got me through so much....I’m happy he’s happy...but damn:/ I don’t think he mentioned attackattack because they had heavy Christian roots, he was allowed to express his love for his faith...OMAM probably muted him.

[@kellingc6]

He doesn't mention Attack Attack and that all those lyrics were very religious, so he's contradicting himself. He said that he hated God the moment his mother died but then records a Christian record?

[@markarcher4489]

Someday came suddenly is not a Christian metal record. You are grasping at straws. Learn to just be happy for somebody else.

[@WlknTlknStvnHwkn]

He also admits to being a drug addict and sleeping with a different girl every night while in Attack Attack.

[@kellingc6]

Mark Archer have you ever read the lyrics? Literally every song.

[@WlknTlknStvnHwkn]

@@kellingc6 So were As I Lay Dying's.

[@markarcher4489]

Yeah, and that guy put a hit on his wife. Classic Christian move. Like literally, the crusades were brutal pal.

[@livinglifeless4535]

Why not no Attack attack? 😱😱😱

[@mwsoupy]

Honestly i fucking love Austin, big inspiration for me and my vocal style. Still jamin to Of Mice and Men (the stuff he was in on), but i fucking hate it when he talks about god. The shit gets so annoying, " i was a depressed kid, then i gave myself to god, and now im all better." Austin... convincing yourself of utter bullshit, doesn't make you less depressed, it just make you more ignorant. I suppose ignorance is bliss huh? "I liked writing about actual problems that real people have, but then i returned to my faith, and now i just wana write about non issues that imaginary people have." Im sorry man, but the best art that came out of you was when you were in your darkest moments, and thats usually the case with artist. Try not to look back at that time so negatively. You helped and left a lasting impression on teenagers like me, that will take what you gave to the world and create something new from it. Not many people can say that they pioneered an entire genre of music, and not many people can say that their own self expression about their darkest moments helped thousands of people get through their own darkest moments. Idk, hopefully Austin can look back on his former band in 5 years and actually be proud of what he did, instead of preaching to everyone about how hes so much better now because he is convinced he's saved when his brain no longer functions. I for one, hope there is nothing when i die, consciousness is more pain than its worth for a single lifetime, not to mention eternity.

[@ruthlessgriz3340]

Moving stuff, but it's important to recognize that even still Austin is on a journey of healing that may take the rest of his life to recover from. His testimony hints at how he is struggling to understand. I don't believe it's healthy to believe God wanted his mom to die. Life is Suffering. There are just things in life that escape our notice and surprise/terrify us when they happen. It's better to understand that he CHOSE to curse God (or the reason for Austin's own existence) because of his circumstances by descending into hedonistic pleasures and self-worship. He made his tragedy into a darker and blacker horror than it needed to be. It wasn't until he lost control of his own body due to the intense pain from his spinal injuries and heart problems related to his Marfan Syndrome that it finally committed him to step away from his life. To finally recognize just how many stupid things he did that dragged his soul down to deeper depths of his own personal hell. His material pleasures, the lies he may have told, the violence he witnessed, was this really the ideal long-term dream he wanted? I would imagine after being in the hospital so many times and coming close to nearly being 30 years old, the terrifying future Austin might have seen for himself finally scared him enough to change. I'm just not sure about his biblical beliefs. That's a tricky business of how to handle celebrities and faith because they are practically two gods; one of them needs to fall completely. I would only become worried if Austin began his own church.

[@aamirmiyajiwala1241]

The dude looks like he is 50. Is everything alright?

[@familyyoutube4921]

JESUS OVER ANY-BAND ANYDAY ANYTIME. ł

[@dylanpayne5925]

Urm not for me but you do you

[@texmex321]

Jeo & Lolli Sky what about a jesus-loving band????

[@anthonyjanes9858]

Of mice and men was a great book

[@demonsandlords]

Lmao I had to like and laugh this comment. I loved the book too. It made me cry tho.

[@anthonyjanes9858]

He asked who likes of mice and men.? What

[@magiebrennan]

@@anthonyjanes9858... because that's his band's name, dude.

[@crisspadilla2823]

Alguien lo puede traducir :v ploz

[@Smithysmithin]

I respect Austin for getting better, I just wish he hadn't fallen into false shit. I won't say that it's fine, cause he traded one sickness for another. Like using oxy cotton to get off heroin. They're both bad. He saved his life, but now his perspective will always be based in stories. Sad, but I'm glad he's still alive and doing better. I have a conflict with treating people using god. I have a conflict with people using god as a substitute for actual medical and fact based therapy. I wish he could have gone to a therapist instead of to his dad. Maybe then he'd be here actually healed fully. Instead he's here still believing in horrible things. Remember, the bible says it's okay to own slaves, to kill every male and tainted woman (not virgin) and keep any virgin girls for yourself, that plants came after humans, that the answer to differences is to kill or abuse. Jesus agrees with this stuff btw. He tells you to follow what the past guys said and that slaves obey your masters. I know what I said won't get through to anyone. But I challenge you to actually think about what the bible says. Start at old testament. Trust me. And don't cherry pick. Love you Austin, and your music. I wish you could have made the music and have been happy. I wish your life was better, but hell, I have plenty of issues. But I won't use god or religion as a crutch. Stay safe people.

[@sh1tnam319]

wall of death ?

[@CannaKen]

Awesome story, And now I know why Of Mice and Men went to shit! I am very happy for Austin and his happiness in life atm, and at the same time, I think he is a class act of betrayal towards a huge fan base he had built! Sad but true, The God I know, would not let me turn my back on millions of fans . IMO, should have changed your lyrics and prayed for the best! Austin is a great leader in the music world, changing many lives.

[@sgtbootycheeks7874]

Who are you to say that he is betraying the fans? He has Marfan syndrome, so he literally couldn’t continue. Also, he has no obligation to stay in music, and you have no right to claim he is a “class act of betrayal.” So no, it’s not “Sad But True”

[@gangstercowboy9812]

Respect to him and all but remember Aaron from underoath did this and went back to under oath after all the negative stuff he said about his time being in the band and after The almost and his solo worship project flopped . btw I'm not hatting I'm huge fan of the almost and his worship stuff.... I actually saw them live years ago. Sometimes u gotta just play with the cards u get dealt with in life ......... He will scream again for Of Mice & Men!!! Mark my words....

[@FK7WRLD]

He won't scream again do you ever listen to him ? he collapsed on stage do to screaming with his condition he had to give up screaming because of the damage it was doing to his body

[@magiebrennan]

Ummmmmm, no dude.

[@gangstercowboy9812]

@@magiebrennan bet

[@KevinQ25]

He won't. They are doing commercially well without him and I don't believe he even wants to rejoin. He is not what they are about right now, and they are not what he is about.

[@V-SZN]

Not with marfans he won't.