Australian 2024 coinage. Something odd is going on with it.

[@janeteholmes]

Monarchs are crowned, not “coronated”.

[@MariusVenz]

I agree. All newly issued coins should have long ago carried the portrait of King Charles. The special issue coins are a stupid idea; the remove the dignity from our coinage and are generally quite inappropriate.

[@nathieboy1987]

The RAM was legally able to strike coins with the effigy of Queen Elizabeth until May 2024. Each year, new date coins begin minting around September/October the previous year (we have just seen the release of 2025 coins in the form of the Perth Mint Lunar Snake which is also legal tender). As Australia took some time to have an effigy of King Charles designed and approved, there was going to be a crossover. It may have been quicker had we used the Royal Mint's Martin Jennings effigy, however we didn't. The 2024 coins struck with the Queen Elizabeth Memorial Effigy were very likely approved prior to the finalisation of Dan Thorne's King Charles effigy, and then there was the time needed for tooling new coin dies. There's nothing odd, just inevitable red-tape and government approvals, practical delays for tooling and preparation. We also cannot forget that RAM did release a 2023 $1 regular mob of roos circulation coin with King Charles in December 2023.

[@kevcump62]

Thanks for this information. Really appreciated

[@kinell188]

China officially featuring on legal tender, oy vey.

[@kevcump62]

Yes, share that thought

[@stevepunter3704]

I have wondered the same thing Kev, possibly the coins were struck many years before the release date 🤔.

[@kaynef6637]

They have the memorial double date on them , how could they know many years in advance the exact year she would pass away ?

[@kevcump62]

Good point that just adds to the question of why keep releasing them

[@stevepunter3704]

@@kaynef6637 🤦‍♂️, good point. I’m a goon 😒. Still, Kev is onto something here.

[@ian-f5f]

@@kaynef6637 She died at 98, doesnt take much to prepare for her death.

[@petert3355]

​@@kevcump62 Is it a re-release or are they still selling the original mintage?

[@joegoedhart1259]

What about the 2023 $2 coins with the Queens head. Was this a mistake or done purposely? My wife got a role of them and spent them before she realised and saved 4.

[@fouckyuen]

the odd thing, in my mind, and it threw me off immediately and i had to do a dbl take. is that the king has no crown.

[@kevcump62]

Understand. But if you look at the QE2 effigies used over time you will see that QE2 was not always wearing a crown as well.

[@gurok2]

Sense, not sence (in the thumbnail).

[@kevcump62]

Thanks and corrected🫢

[@kevcump62]

Perhaps I should have said. Does it make any cents

[@andrewharris4268]

The year these NIFC tokens were manufactured, or were in manufacture, corresponds to QE II’s reign. That not necessarily when they were scheduled to be sold by the mint. But so what anyway? Even if they were real circulated coins, there’s no reason why QE II coins shouldn’t continue to be released, both here and in UK if they were already minted for the purpose. No-one is being disrespected.

[@andrewharris4268]

…so not even a tiny bit odd. What’s odd is that people see something to be ‘offended’ at in such a routine and nondescript matter.

[@kevcump62]

They are not tokens. They are legal tender

[@andrewharris4268]

@@kevcump62 they’re not without collectable value but they’re not available at face value either. Whether they’re ’legal tender’ or not is a convenience under law to allow the mint/govt to profit from people’s gullibility. If you can’t get one for face value, they’re NIFC, not coins. But that’s beside the point of the question you posed in your vid regarding perceived disrespect to one or the other monarch.

[@kevcump62]

@@andrewharris4268 legal tender NIFC coins are definitely collectible but not just for gullible people. People collect what they collect. People collect all sort of things, from Barbie dolls to cars to stamps. The value of any collectible is determined by what another collector will pay for it. Legal tender coins hold an added advantage or protection to collectors as any attempt to copy them is considered counterfeit. Counterfeiting is punishable by doing serious time because nations definitely don’t appreciate people messing with their currency. So maybe not such a silly choice to collect them.

[@davidd347]

How come he is not wearing the crown ??

[@KetoJesus]

Because the real rightful heir to the throne is living in Australia.

[@chrisantoniou4366]

Neither did Edward the VII nor George VI.

[@icycoldcanofcoke]

Monarch's personal choice, apparently.

[@joegoedhart1259]

Men dont. Only women do.

[@paulfletcher9295]

In the past "foreign" coinage of former British colonies did have the King wearing a crown.

[@kymparkeri]

They could have been stamped during her reign and stored for release in 2024

[@kevcump62]

Even that seems odd to me. Hold them for two years and then release them during the kings reign. I would have thought I that was the case they should have melted them down and used the metal again. It would not be the first time something like that had been done.

[@petert3355]

Regarding legal tender having to have the effigy of the current reigning monarch that is just not the case. If it were, it would mean that every coin and note in circulation would stop being legal tender as soon as the monarch dies.

[@alansizer2006]

He did say, "... in the year it was produced."

[@petert3355]

@alansizer2006 Even that does not wash. Example from history. Why were the coins minted during the 18 or so months of Edward the 8th reign minted with his father's obverse? Short answer is it takes time to produce the dies. As such, there has always been a cross over interval on the coinage.

[@kevcump62]

True, that makes sense and this is just a question, but don’t the banks take out of circulation coins that don’t have the reigning monarch on them. Perhaps it just because QE2 reigned for longer than most people have lived that it seems so strange. Still think it is very odd to intentionally mint legal tender with two different monarchs at the same time.

[@petert3355]

@kevcump62 Remember the change of monarch set. Had the 5 different QEII portraits on the 5c to 1d, and the new CRIII portrait on the 2d. It would appear that the 2d was the first die's created. So depending on each denomination mintage required, it would depend on when the new Charles die was available as to how many coins were minted with each die. Just an aside, die manufacturing time is a lot quicker today than it was in 1937-8. That explains why only the crown got an Edward VIII mintage that was never released.

[@justvisitingterra6459]

👽 👍. SATT.

[@kevcump62]

What are you trying to say? I want the view of extraterrestrials to be fairly represented on my channel.

[@justvisitingterra6459]

@@kevcump62 WAVE LENGTH, OR LENGTH OF WAVE, YOUR CHOICE KEV 😉. SATT 👽.

[@kenfowler1980]

I think who cares? It’s legal tender

[@AncientRylanor69]

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[@justinfarnell2284]

Agree, it's disrespectful and not necessary. Possibly illegal as well?!

[@kevcump62]

Well, certainly disrespectful in my mind.👍

[@keithchapman1477]

I smiled.... now why would this happen, rightly so Charlie boy should be on the coin. Folks ur watching a actor, the original is lets say gone. Crimes against humanity. I'm guessing this will come out next year.

[@tetravisum]

To be honest why should we give a crap about monarchs in the current year anyways

[@kevcump62]

Personally, I am with you regarding the monarchy in general. I would be happy for Australia to become a republic. However while every Australian legal tender coin is required to have an effigy of our monarch on it I will remain interested as that side of the coin is 50% of the coin collecting hobby

[@tetravisum]

@@kevcump62 that's understandable, I just personally don't really care about the 'disrespecting the king' aspect of it that I see in some comments here.

[@BasilPunton]

To be truthful, it is a storm in a teacup. Also, it is a good incentive to go Republic. Most Australians could not give a fig about this issue. Truth will out.

[@kevcump62]

Fair enough but just another perspective to consider. Regardless of a person being a King or a toilet cleaner. If I gave that person the job and then put up a picture of the person who formally did their job to represent their job? How might they feel? In my eyes, a prince or a carpenter should be given the same respect.

[@peecee1384]

@@BasilPuntonTo hell with a republic. Rather a monarch than a politician (buffoon).

[@denisgeorge549]

Didn’t elbo n charmers refuse to print the King on them

[@kevcump62]

Would make for an interesting story, but not one I have heard 🤨