Tabletop Extrusion CNC Router Build - Part 2

Part 1 of the build - • Tabletop Extrusion CNC...
Part 2 of the Tabletop CNC Router Build, attaching the ballscrews, motors and cable chain.
As promised are the sketchup plans for those wanting to build one for themselves or something similar.
www.chris-build...
Alternate uncompressed link if the above doesn't work.
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[@ServiceProcess]

Massive thank you. I built this. Took my time as I really enjoyed the challenge. Also researched and built the control box from scratch. A really enjoyable project (especially now that everything works !!!). 2.2k water cooled spindle, contactless limit switches etc. Cuts Aluminium a treat. The fact that you showed yourself building it with everyday tools did the trick for me. Big thanks.

[@shyleshsrinivasan5092]

Very neat ! Really good quality work achieved by manual power tools ! Thanks for posting this build here for us all !!

[@georgepeoples1209]

this is probably the simplest, but efficient design I have seen yet.....Great Job.

[@J1I9M7M4Y]

Nice to see someone build without already having a cnc!

[@J1I9M7M4Y]

@Marshall Eddie Reported

[@J1I9M7M4Y]

@Shepard Kingston Reported

[@Renaldo015]

He has those good quality machinist power tools tho and that's more than enough. A cheap drill press would have lots of deflections.

[@pierluigiugolotti]

You're a master of the bandsaw.

[@richardvinzant4103]

Excellent work on the chop saw

[@AnthonyWebb7]

Really enjoy watching your build! It is shaping up to be a very impressive machine! Nice skills on the various shop tools. Do keep us posted as she comes to life.

[@ray-charc3131]

Speedy machining by using benchtop jigsaw and overall design is good! Good work! Only one thing, the angle bracket for the two x-axis ballscrew nuts are not strong enough.... may need improvement...

[@ausxmods]

Thanks, once the machine is running the plan is to re-machine all the X axis plates as I wasn't happy with how they turned out.

[@ejensen99999]

You'll find those helical couplings are a mistake. Swap them out for spider couplings. I had a set go full "bad slinky" on me and snap

[@donsigurdson2617]

Thank you for the response. I noticed you had good guality ball screws by the marking on the ball nut , not the red or green dot like the cheap ones . I found a Hiwin dist. In N/A . Thanks . Nice job

[@CrystalliteKK]

At 2:20 safety first, stop the machine and proceed. Can get new aluminium bar not fingers 😁. At 4:55 there is loose fitting with the braket fixed to the sliding nut (dont know exactly what its called)

[@ManojKumar-mb1xv]

Is these required lubrication? If yes what will be the time gap between lubrication

[@woodtv4481]

I was inspired by this sir, that is why i also made my own version @

[@Pumie03]

I want a metalwork shed in my house, and woodwork. Looks expensive, but well worth the investment (time and money). These parts are not easy to source in my part of the world. Can these hobbyist shops make it down to Eswatini (stop with the SA near misses).

[@jwc3104]

Impressive. You did all the AL metal work using basically woodworking tools....

[@x_jaydn]

Wow, this is the exact kind of machine I had in mind for my first build! HGR rails, balls screws and all! In your opinion, what's necessary HGR15 or HGR20 Rails? Also, are what are the advantages of HGH blocks over HGW blocks? 🤔

[@brunowaerer6380]

Great Job man ;) I now building the same but a little bigger. Which stepper you used? Who much NM did they have. Can you show your controller setup?

[@ausxmods]

Any high torque nema 23/24 motor will work with this design, even mid nema 23 range will work like 270 oz-in, I used Nema 24 400oz-in steppers on the X and Y axis and Nema 23 270oz-in stepper on the Z axis. I don't have any pictures of the controller setup but it consisted of a Gecko G540, 48VDC power supply, & Delta 1.5KW VFD, a pretty basic setup.

[@angel1138thx]

amazing machine, congratulations

[@richardwilliamjohnson8566]

Thanks for this video, I'm very curious, how sturdy is this machine when cutting aluminium, if you have tried it? Is there any particular part you would do differently next time?

[@ausxmods]

I'm waiting on some endmills and collets to start cutting aluminium, the single flute 1/8" endmill I have isn't really suited for aluminium. I'd change the Z axis ballnut mount, and instead of printing the Y axis motor mount just buy one off the shelf, I've got 2 nema 24 mounts coming from china (cast aluminium) and they only cost $30AUD shipped. If you have tooling for the mill already I'd manually machine the plates, I think with a few endmills and a boring bar most plates could be machined from aluminium. If you're starting with aluminium plates I'd also direct couple the X axis motor mount like the Y axis, the only reason I mounted the Y axis with a belt is because there wouldn't have been much support for the stepper motor.

[@richardwilliamjohnson8566]

CT thankyou very much for your reply, great info. I'll be watching for a new video about aluminium cutting success/failure from you in the future! ;)

[@brian1326]

Why did you choose to build a moving gantry rather that fixed gantry moving table? The reason I ask is because in my 20+ years of programming and operating CNC routers I have found the fixed gantry machines to give less chatter. I see that at least one stepper motor has a shaft out the back put an encoder on it and go to a closed loop system.

[@ausxmods]

The goal was to keep it light weight and as small as possible to keep it portable-ish, a fixed gantry machine would be much longer to keep the same working area and would be much heavier, if it were a fixed gantry machine I'd probably be working with a welded steel structure instead of a bolt together aluminium frame. An encoder would be nice but it just adds to the cost and stepper motors have never given me any trouble with lost steps since I started working with them in 2007, it's just a hobby machine so I don't try and push the maximum from the machine. ~CT

[@cncrim1]

Very nice. how much do it cost you on material?

[@ausxmods]

I cannot remember exactly but I think around AU$2K, aluminium extrusion and the Hiwin linear rails are not cheap.

[@bvedhapu]

can you tell us the t nuts used and thread size and length of bolts used? thank you

[@EmuPorridge]

Hi mate, firstly thank you for putting the video and links up they're excellent. Can I ask did you make the Z-axis or did you purchase? I've seen a few for sale on Aliexpress.

[@ausxmods]

Thanks, I purchased mine from a US seller "microcarve" www.ebay.com.au/sch/microcarve/m.html?item=162326777720 cost about A$220 delivered. The Z axis is the most complex part in a build in my opinion and so just opted to pay a bit extra and buy a pre-made one.

[@basermia9328]

CT sar gab ur nambar

[@basermia9328]

Gabe ur nambar

[@mendebil]

transmission screw is ideally between the rails equally spaced oooor maybe closer to the rail that takes the load in this case the bottom one? Applying the force at the top when the load is at the bottom will result in premature bearing wear andall the vibration the sistem is capable of.... Other than that nice build

[@eduardovargas7278]

Fantastico proyecto, me a encantado, gracias amigo por compartir tus conocimientos ¿ con esta maquinita se pueda trabajar el maquinado en aluminio??? "FELICITACIONES"

[@dnmnsmith]

An inspiration, thank you!

[@CraigHollabaugh]

Oh my! nice work and great video. Where did you get the giant angle aluminum?

[@ausxmods]

Most Aluminium suppliers should stock it, but this piece was from Calm Aluminium.

[@CraigHollabaugh]

I've never seen an angle piece this large at my local supplier. I'll take a look around. Thanks for the reply.

[@stephenwgreen78]

Buying parts for my own & yours looks a lot like what I've been drawing. Using open builds c beam for gantry rigidity & cheap Chinese ball screw/20mm square linear rail + controller/stepper/power supply combos off eBay (ratm motor branded...any red flags there?). Did you have any issues with twisting on the gantry during cuts? Thanks for sharing the build process & your plans.

[@ausxmods]

I'm not familiar with the C Beam design but just taking a look at it I think its a lighter extrusion than what I used, chinese ballscrews and rails are good enough for a home cnc machine, if you can buy Hiwin linear rails they're better quality than the generic chinese square rails. For the electronics you normally get what you pay for, personally I hate those multi-driver controllers from china, they always seem to fail pretty quick, best to just buy something half decent like some Leadshine or Gecko drivers. The cnc router in the video is now in parts but I did run a similar cnc router for about 2 years and never had a problem with it.

[@mustafakaptan794]

Hello Can you give me the material list?

[@justship7282]

What size/series is the extruded aluminum?

[@ausxmods]

30 series 60x120mm for the gantry and 40series 120x40mm and 40x40mm for the base.

[@ericjohnson8482]

Have you tried to machine aluminum with this yet? I'm curious how rigid it is.

[@ausxmods]

Not yet, I'm waiting on a few parts so I can wire up the electronics, I'll upload a video of it machining aluminium when its up and running.

[@atouguiafrancisco6704]

Excellente CNC félicitations

[@cncnoob6495]

Great build.. Any upcoming video of this machine cutting aluminium? Would love to see that, thanks..

[@ausxmods]

After numerous issues with the electronics I lost interest and disassembled the cnc router to use for parts in other projects, I had a faulty driver and numerous issues with two pc's I had running mach 3, and possibly an issue with one of the stepper motors :( I purchased an Optimum BF20 mini mill recently and will be doing a conversion on that, but I'll be spending a bit more on the electronics so I don't run into the same issues.

[@cncnoob6495]

I also have a C-Beam Router (Kyo's design from OpenBuilds), but have issues with the rigidity when cutting aluminium. That's why I thought your design might be better than mine. I'm also thinking about converting a milling machine, so I'm looking forward for your BF20 conversion videos. Thanks.. :)

[@mikemcdonnell6814]

hi, how much did all the materials cost.thank you. great video.

[@ausxmods]

It's roughly about a AUD 3K build (complete and running), but you can easily cut that down if you can source cheaper components, I went sort of mid tier on components so there are definitely some areas you can save money.

[@mikemcdonnell6814]

@@ausxmods thank you.

[@barbaryannfpv9967]

Hi, I look all your video and you do a very very very nice job. Lot of inspiration for me. I have one ask for you : what is for you the best to mill aluminum or steel - a table top CNC router like this ? - or CNC custom of a BF20 L ? Thanks for your vidéos Yann

[@ausxmods]

For both steel and Aluminium you'll definitely want a milling machine, most cnc routers will mill aluminium but the quality of cut will vary depending on the machine itself and how rigid it is, off experience a heavy rigid design with the correct milling bits (designed for milling aluminium) will produce some very nice cuts.

[@barbaryannfpv9967]

so for you definitely BF20 L with CNC upgrade is definitly the best ?@@ausxmods

[@slietjshcss1877]

Which motars are you using??

[@cncstudio5800]

Do you have working video of this CNC Router?

[@Mulinby]

Great work! Respect.

[@interchange11]

may I have a plan

[@КонстантинСедов-к7ф]

Есть практика постройки станка с полем 3000х2100 ?

[@Jose-Ricardo]

Hi, thanks for the video and the time taken to document your build. So far it is one of the simplest and sturdiest I've seen and I would like to replicate it for my build. For some reason the link to the sketch up drawings doesn't work. Could you post an updated link? Thanks again

[@ausxmods]

Just sent the sketchup plans by email.

[@Jose-Ricardo]

CT Thank you sir!

[@josipmoro6946]

which is sort a mechanism on 4:50.he touch, which coupler?

[@chrisadesigns]

very nice build mate. I think your z will be a bit of a weak link but you should be able to make one with the CNC now it you need something a bit more beefy.

[@ricardomolina8773]

What size rods are those

[@solankiroshan315]

How much price in This cnc CNC machine

[@hiengletran4134]

Thank you so much

[@nkbhaljneral7365]

Explain the power of the engine used ??

[@ealneas1]

Hello. Your cnc inspired me to build one. Could you tell me please what size aluminum extrusions you was using and maybe you have a measurements of your cnc ? Thank you

[@ausxmods]

There is a mix of sizes, 120x60mm for the gantry, 120x40mm for the sides and 40x40 for the table supports. There is a link to some sketchup plans in the description. sketchup is free cad software.

[@ealneas1]

CT Thanks for replying. I had a look at sketchup file and couldn't see the measurements for the aluminium plates. Could you tell me the measurements of those plates? Now that you had for some time the machine could you tell me how is running and maybe what improvements you would be doing if you where to build one more machine like this ?

[@ausxmods]

You can use the "Line" tool to get measurements, the "Dimension" tool or the "Tape Measure" Tool (looks like a tape measure) to get dimensions off the sketchup model. After numerous issues with the electronics I disassembled the cnc router to use as parts in a cnc mill conversion, it was taking up space and I lost interest in getting it to run, it's not my first cnc build and it would have produced some good parts based off the results of previous builds.

[@miro9449]

What’s the logo of the circle blessing

[@yoantachannel3387]

Amazing video... good job... very nice...

[@gerokatseros]

erection no.2

[@ahmdouelboayt9703]

Hi this is a professional work , Do you buy it

[@1metiz]

What kind of ballscrews are you using?

[@ausxmods]

They're 1605 rolled ballscrews. I buy mine from this seller stores.ebay.com.au/CNC-AND-CUPCAKE-WORLD/Ballscrew-5mm-pitch-/_i.html?_fsub=412643919&_sid=657086089&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

[@suriyabala5860]

What software you using

[@ausxmods]

CNC - Mach 3 / CAM - Vectric Cut 2D / CAD - Sketchup Although I'll be moving to CNC - UCCNC and hopefully a better CAD/CAM package soon.

[@canoe-shelburne]

I have a large format printer but am unsure how to print templates from Sketchup. Can you help|?

[@ausxmods]

Its a pain but there are guides out there on how to print 1:1 templates, i've only ever printed A4 size stuff but basically you need to set it to parallel projection, top down view (or side of the part) and reduce the visible screen to what you want to print otherwise it'll try printing the blank space. It's been a few years since I've done it as my new cheap laser printer doesn't print 1:1

[@JoeMalovich]

Look for a program called bigprint

[@spheattreatment]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@przemysawkubiak9981]

What stepper motors did you use?

[@ausxmods]

X & Y - 439oz-in 3.1Nm 3.5A Nema 24 and Z axis has a 269 oz-in 3A nema 23.

[@AdaptingCamera]

Very nice.

[@TheLevitatingChin]

Your ballnut mounts look flimsy. Definitely the weakest link.

[@maksik8217]

Great job. You say something about stepper motors? What did you use or how strong should be on each axis?

[@ausxmods]

They were just what was on special at the time and matched the drivers I wanted to get but you could most likely run smaller nema 23 motors without a problem. X & Y - 439oz-in 3.1Nm 3.5A Nema 24 and Z axis has a 269 oz-in 3A nema 23.

[@tuanquynh0508]

You are Maker Man Pro

[@minskmade]

what metal saw is this

[@ausxmods]

It's just a normal mitre saw, you can buy aluminium cutting blades for them or you can use wood cutting blades but they can be a bit aggressive for cutting aluminium, I'd also think it would severely reduces the life of the blade.

[@23fields]

nice machine

[@vittsy2321]

do you have stl files or any other kind because i dont have sketch up

[@vittsy2321]

also if you have parts list can i have it because i really want to make it and how much will every thing cost?

[@ausxmods]

I don't have any STL files, but sketchup is free

[@ausxmods]

no parts list but if you want to know specific parts I can find out for you, it's about a 2-3K build I would say.

[@vittsy2321]

if it was 2k why didn't you just buy one for that much?

[@ausxmods]

Are you referring to the chinese 6040's on ebay? because in Australia that's all you can buy for ~2K, they're junk IMO.

[@balexfox]

Very hard construction

[@GroundedConceptsLLC]

LEGIT

[@freemooc2902]

what is the total cost ,plz ????? of all things you Purchased .. thx in advance

[@ausxmods]

It's not a cheap build it's about 2-3K, but you could use cheaper electronics and linear rails to keep costs down if you wanted to.

[@freemooc2902]

+CT value in dollars.., i'm not a native what is 2-3k coin ?????

[@ausxmods]

sorry forgot the currency, its about $2000-$3000 AUD or about $1500-$2200 USD.

[@freemooc2902]

very expensive !!!!!!!! thx a lot ,man ..........

[@chrisleech1565]

You think that is expensive? Try shopping for a ready made kit that you still have to put together. At least this way you are in control. You can shop around a bit, have good fun making the parts, assemblies and have aground up understanding of the machine once completed. The equivalent in a ready made CNC Router table of the same size would run you ~7000USD. If you want to buy from China and if they will ship it to you and you do make the right choice of manufacturers your waiting time could be 6 months to a year and possible damages during shipping which you will have to go and pick up at the nearest shipping Port OF Entry and on top of that you will have no customer support. But hey good luck finding one. Do your research and then tell us how expensive this is :-)

[@sakirdag2976]

good

[@akhenatn]

wait! 2:19 you put your finger next the cutter

[@splendorman7922]

2:19 tho...

[@waev68]

Where can I get the plans?

[@ausxmods]

There's a link in the description for some Sketchup plans.

[@dozer2100]

Nota 10

[@KineticLatency]

Have the electronics arrived yet? I keep checking back for updates.

[@ausxmods]

I've got all the electronics and it's mostly complete, I still need to attach the spindle, remake the right side ballscrew mount, make an adapter for the spindle to attach a fan as the shaft driven fan supplied was barely providing any cooling (Cheap chinese square body spindle), wire the stepper motors to the drivers and it should be good for it's first run. Had a 3d printer arrive yesterday and so will be 3d printing the few parts I need instead of making them from aluminium again as they'll just be replaced when the cnc router is running so plastic will be good enough for now.

[@KineticLatency]

Excellent, looking forward to it!

[@hugorubenchinohuaman3199]

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[@qwertzbalken6076]

The way the ballnuts are fixed to the individual axis is not very good in my opinion. The mount will flex on heavy cuts and deflect the hell out of this machine, making the sturdy and precise Linear rails useless. I'm not a machinist (yet), but i'm probably right.

[@garagatza]

You my friend, require move views!

[@irvinwittmeier5208]

Funny how they use oil to drill but then just cut it with a chop saw dry its aluminum you dont need oil

[@ausxmods]

I use cutting oil for both, it helps stop the aluminium from sticking to the cutting tool, normally I wouldn't bother with the mitre saw but the blade is a bit dull and the aluminium will stick to it if I don't use cutting oil, the cut will look smeared if there is no oil.

[@flaviodematos2910]

The wire.

[@อนุสรณ์จันทรา-ฐ7ธ]

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[@mosesposes6427]

U Genius

[@scotia3d263]

lol sadistic genious

[@nhutnguyen4607]

But very

[@___-yx9nw]

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[@Levisgil47]

Building a CNC I wanted to know how much you set back the ballscrew from the edges of the aluminium profile ? Thanks

[@chrisleech1565]

It is kind of hard to figure out what dimension you used for the Y axis extrusion. I just found what I am hoping is 45x180 of the 80/20 extrusion. I haven't taken delivery of it. Only a picture so far with a few measurements. So I am holding my breath wondering what exactly I spoke for :-) Watching your build with great interest naturally. Best regards and thanks or taking the time to do all the camera angles :-)

[@Hoss_1966]

very nice, I have a workbee I want to add ball screws to. what size of extrusions are you usng

[@davidskala4182]

Realy nice. Could you share list of electronic and movement components? Thank you

[@rondlh20]

Impressive, great skills, great job!

[@UzunKamis]

Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imOQm3eadtyfe5Ysi=sNINYrRQxBbsMREl Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5_KemCHba9jkM0si=4XUn694_V1hbBhrA

[@danielgilleece8052]

Brilliant video. I like the way you fast-motion through the humdrum, without skipping key bits. Very thoughtful editing!

[@Theproof1984]

Do you have a BOM (Bill of Material) of the different parts you are/were using, such as types of extruded aluminium, linear rails and lead screws. Furter more is it possible to have a meassurable CAD drawing??

[@ausxmods]

There are some sketchup drawings on the description, they'll give you a good idea on what you need for the build, Extrusion is Profile 30 and Profile 40 (40x40, 40x120 and 60x120), Linear rails are standard Hiwin HGH linear rails/slides, and standard 1605 ballscrews.

[@apolinarelizondo9113]

Hi I was wondering if you can email me your plans or if I can buy them please let me know thank you

[@ProfKengne]

Nice video

[@bassstudent4life]

None of the links worked for me. Can anyone help?

[@alanmcdowell977]

I don't have sketchup if it is not free software I don't have it .do have plans that I can get

[@edwinkania5286]

Impressive and expensive! Very nice!

[@industrial.inoxidable]

Hello Friend. I am in a project to make a cnc table. I still have to wire the race limit switches that go to the card. I have a diagram of the card and the limits. You can help me ? I can send it to you by email. I would greatly appreciate it

[@parasaniasandip]

This guy skillful without CNC he cut all aluminium part like CNC cut. Great man.

[@patriciadeinochea2121]

Nice!!!!! where did you buy the ballsrews?

[@ausxmods]

They were from an ebay seller "silvers-123" but just having a look they don't seem to have much left only a few odd ballscrew sizes. They were made in Taiwan ballscrews, and were much better quality than what the sellers from china were selling but they did cost twice as much.

[@Rakeshkumar-ot2by]

Is there any deflection on x axis?