AUTO FOCUS for a whole video?! LUMIX S5II

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In this late episode about the Lumix S5II I'll test the autofocus capabilities, talk about big upgrades to the camera, and compare it to the flagship S1H.
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[@steveschnetzler5471]

I am still waiting/hoping for a supported autofocus motor, that the S511 would drive directly (from the phase detect). So you get the autofocus on all those vintage & anamorphic lenses. How cool would that be.

[@ForestCinema]

Same, Same.

[@geoffreybassett6741]

I agree, I think any manufacturer who came out with a motor like that would find massive system adoption overnight.

[@karikaru]

Like the dji system that works off lidar?

[@ForestCinema]

@@geoffreybassett6741 forget the motor, just an open control protocol would do it, like use the flash port or hotshoe or whatever. Tilta/SmallHD/DJI would make/reprogram motors overnight probably.

[@ForestCinema]

@@karikaru no

[@skrotfiske]

The S5II and the S5IIX still uses the same sensor (at least a variation of that same sensor) as the original S5, S1 and S1H used which is a Sony sensor, specifically the IMX410, so it was phase detect ready all along but before they just didn't take advantage of it. What the Leica + Panasonic L2 partnership brought to the new cameras is the new L2 Image Engine (the processor) which is what enables 6K internally, 3:2 open gate, zoom in to check focus while recording, faster burst mode in photography, ALL-I codecs in the X version etc. It's still the same sensor though, that doesn't seem to have hasn't changed.

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

Good to know. That's not what they told me.

[@skrotfiske]

​@@AnamorphicOnABudget interesting! It's not what i've been told. The fact that the specs of the sensor are exactly the same like that it's a 24.2mp BSI sensor and that the dynamic range in IMATESTs are also exactly the same seems to back that up. There are some slight variations of the IMX410 though, can be a slightly different sensor but essentially it's the same, at least from what i can tell and what i've been told.

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

We clearly have different sources! I'm inclined to believe the info I got was oversimplified, while yours is more in depth.

[@SebsFinTechChannel]

Oh please please please try the Sirui 35mm 1.6X in the open gate mode on this camera! I’m so curious if that combo could be a viable option for filming interviews in tight-ish spaces while still getting a bit of somewhat oval background blur.

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

It's the same as the S1H in terms of size, so if you watch my Sirui 35mm 1.6X review, you should find your answer! :)

[@SebsFinTechChannel]

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Oh awesome! I actually have watched that but didn’t realise you shot it on open gate! Will watch again! Thank you!!! 🙌

[@joeensley3912]

I agree with the all intra I don’t see what the point is if you ultimately want the best quality shoot RAW. The M1 & M2 chips breeze through long GOP clips

[@UltratecJS]

Thank you for this video. I wanted to see this exact footage with this lens since I'll be upgrading soon.

[@kuraro]

Wow... great review as always Tito! I am super curious to see the next s5IIx at work !! must be a bomb!! Think I'm gonna order the x... they say it's gonna be launched in May... can't wait!

[@pseudomichael]

It was a lovely surprise to see a CIty of God clip show up in this video. I looooooove that movie so much, and I feel that aside from cinephiles it's kind of under the radar? Still such a vibrant film.

[@moabmaulervevo]

I can't believe panasonic added autofocus to their cameras. It's been a long time coming

[@EstelonAgarwaen]

Their cams had autofocus for a long time. Just that the video af was ass. My gx80 does fine for photo tho

[@victormultanen1981]

nice footage though! The autofocus looks reliable, and the image stabilisation is very impressive.

[@martysender5539]

good review. yes do another one on the X. Marty Sender You Tube

[@the_black_douglas9041]

Lovely work as always Tito! Re: S5ii/x vs S1H …optical low pass on the S1H only. But it’s very exciting here in Australia to have Open Gate in the PAL frame rates 🥰

[@byfmaestri]

Great review, thanks for the reference to City of God! Greetings from Brazil!

[@joyoffilming9500]

Great review!

[@Robin.F96]

Got it day One ^^ (been using the S5 for 2 years now and this thing comes in with phase AF... I had to)

[@zKMotion]

interesting take, does the S5 II does touch to track focus in video mode like how Sony does it? Weirdly enough, I've seen people having issues with the PDAF doesn't work as intended when shooting in 60fps.

[@j43l35]

Poi oh poi! That was a nice surprise 🙂

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

I wish I had more chances to do poi on videos. It's hard to always be the talking subject. :)

[@j43l35]

@@AnamorphicOnABudget would love to see more! I know you get so focused on the lens(es) or topic at hand it probably doesn't occur to film that. Maybe next time you get to record with a buddy like your recent vid with Matt Leaf!

[@EricGibaud]

Thank you for another great video. Why do you think Anamorphic is better on 6K Open gate more than C4K? can't use it in C4K? I am new to this, I got 2 sirui 35mm and 100mm 1.6X and tried on C4K and it looked good to me. Thank you for your time and answer.

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

It'll look good in any setting. Here's a video where I go really into this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epaVf2erZ86aoZo

[@EricGibaud]

@@AnamorphicOnABudget thank you very much! 😁

[@tomaplaw]

Would you say the GH6 is still the best anamorphic camera?

[@sadyslaw18]

Hey ;) Could you check hdmi latency? Is it comfortable to use S5 II with external monitor?

[@MayurMahapatraFilms]

Nice video man.. currently I am a Fuji user. I have no plan to switch but would love to add S2H if there is anything coming soon.. what’s your thoughts on S2H? Ohh yes.. I just subbed .. 👍

[@claudiuavram6317]

There are a ton of videos testing AF in 4k or 6k format but none in full HD. So this video is just another one that confirms all those 679 videos wich says the same thing. Pleeeeeeeease, just make a video testing AF, image quality and IBIS in full HD 50fps. It's really that difficult to understand that are a lot of enthusiast filmmakers who doesn't have expensive gear to edit 4k image and shoots in full HD and are interested to see if this camera is suitable for them? 🤷‍♂

[@YanFries]

I’ll be uploading a video on my channel testing this since you asked 👍🏽

[@abc123o]

You don't need expensive gear to edit it. Macs with m1 helps. And 4k quality will be better even with crop. However If you shoot FHD only, it's not worth to get s5ii until they add pdaf to 50/60p. FF

[@Duuk_the_Dog]

@@abc123o so no pdaf in 1080p at all?

[@abc123o]

@@Duuk_the_Dog No pdaf in FF 1080 in 50p and higher frame rates. If it's possible, they will add via firmware.

[@sols9449]

Can you use anamorphic lenses on the canon R5

[@Trevellian]

Counterpoint. Exclusively use all-i. It edits so much better than long-gop, especially when rapidly scrubbing. Most especially with 4:2:2 color, as h.265 4:2:2 has scant hardware decode support. All-i is larger, yes, but storage is cheap. Waiting for the S1H 2 with phase detect.

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

I'm just generating proxies and optimized media for editing, which defeats the purpose of ALL-I being lighter on the CPU/GPU. :)

[@Trevellian]

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Agree, proxies are a good solution. But all-i means never having to generate proxies. Downside is that more storage space and faster record media are necessary, so it is more expensive. But can offer faster workflows.

[@LucasPfaff]

One thing I find always distracting with AF for KZbin is the "jumping". Not talking about Panasonic specifically, also with Sony cameras. I never notice it in faces, I guess because motionblur might help here, or because faces are more forgiving? Anyway, where it's so obvious is bokeh. And when there's a lot of pronounced bokeh in the background (which is very popular on YT, huh), it's very pronounced and very distracting. That must be my T-Rex senses. Panasonic does seem to do a good job here, or at least on par with the rest. Regarding the sensor, as far as I understood it's the very same as in the original S5. So same restrictions, DR and rolling shutter. Regarding the full height 4:3, it would likely still only do 30fps. The issue is the amount of lines (top to bottom) that need to get read, so cropping sides doesn't help. That's directly connected to rolling shutter as well, because it's an indication of how fast the sensor can be read. So if it's the same as in the S5/S1H, it's not faster. Also playing the devil's advocate here: I still think they settled for Academy to get a good ratio of sensor height versus rolling shutter. As anamorphic amplifies RS around the factor of the used stretch, it's fair to try to hide the downsides here, haha

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

Yeah, I super notice focus jumping on bokeh as well, and I kept a look at that in this video (you can clearly see it happen on the two times I slide back). Same everything as the original S5 except autofocus and a better engine (which doesn't affect the sensor per se). Ah! That is really good to know about the readout. Thank you for expanding on it. Same for the academy choice opposed to S35 open gate. Rolling shutter is the downside of scope. Amazing! hahahaha :P

[@RealSoundReviews]

we need autofocus on anamorphic in L-mount and that's the ball game ! Do you know if it's going to happen ? :)

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

I don't think any time soon, but I'd like to be proven wrong. The art of focusing anamorphics is quite complex for an automatic system, unfortunately.

[@jakekeele]

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the open gate options on the full frame Lumix cameras (S1H, BS1H, and now S5ii) already maxed out height-wise, we just get a little extra on the sides? The gh6 can do 4:3 because that’s the inherent shape of its sensor where as on the full frame cameras mentioned above, they have a 3:2 sensor size.

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

Yes, you get a 3:2 full height full width image on open gate. While most recording modes and other cameras will give you a 16:9 full width but not full height video recording area.

[@kingpossie]

If you visit ever The Hague again I’ll buy you a steak. So you’ll be able to hold your camera for longer.

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

HHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thank you! I'm starting an arm workout today.

[@kenyakking]

Do you think there are enough anamorphic lenses for the S5ii?

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

Considering the current PL, L and EF-mount offers right now, yeah, I'd say so.

[@markshirley01]

I tried the S5II out last Saturday. Its auto focus worked great. My only reservation was the rear screen was a bit small and underwhelming compared to my Nikon rear screen. I'm trying to figure if I can deal with that, its only 6mm on the diagonal but even the image seems crunched on it, I often show clients images and clips, so this is a worry.

[@mattuhry]

Hi - thanks for this review - I'm trying to figure out if this would be a good b-cam for me, A Cam is a Mavo Edge 8k, as best as I can tell the S5IIX has Anamorphic mode only for APS and not FF, but it can record 3:2 FF @up to 30FPS and I just would have to live with the squeeze in the EVF and Outputs. Is that right ?

[@chicobraz4335]

Is it me or the mark 2 has a more filmic look then mark 1 ,closer to Alexa to my eyes than the 1st

[@changeli3901]

Weeeeeeee............................

[@MrDenisaffonsodebarr]

How about a af test with some classic Canon lenses, like 24 70, 70 200, 16 35 and the MC 21

[@AnamorphicOnABudget]

I don't have any Canon lenses to test it out! :(

[@biharjafarian]

Visit Josh Cameron, he do test with all the lenses you mention

[@sadyslaw18]

For photo and video EF lenses work great. There's one minor problem with shutter while taking photos. With EF lenses and Sigma MC21 shutter sounds like you set it very slow even if it's 1/200 or 1/500 sec. Photos look normal and overall shutter works well but it's sounds very different compared to native lenses.

[@naveenbasiya4531]

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