Auto Sampling Guide - Akai Force and MPC

[@matthewgaines10]

Probably the best tutorial for MPC auto sampler.

[@joefilbrun]

What a nice compliment. Thank you!

[@matthewgaines10]

@joefilbrun Well, I was trying to be honest, not complimentary. Yours is the best that I've seen. Top shelf. Don't thank me, thank you.

[@BeastlyAnteater]

What a hidden gem of a channel. This is literally the only good video I’ve been able to find on the subject of auto sampling with the MPC

[@DJCJ999]

The only time I tried this feature I didn't go through any of the settings and managed to make a huge sample pack of my electric piano... you tutorial is very detailed and logical, thanks!

[@stevekirkby6570]

Excellent tutorial. Thank you. It is refreshing to see someone describe the functions thoroughly without skipping or waffling through :)

[@joefilbrun]

Hey Steve, thanks for that! Hopefully this takes the guess work out of it for you!

[@carvingCode]

Joe is the Doctor of Force-ology! Another great tutorial.

[@joefilbrun]

Thanks Randy!

[@Romenet310]

This was outstanding, Joe! I think sort of the underlying thing is is “Auto” sample doesn’t mean no brain required. This was very good and taught me a lot about not only sampling here but within other tools. I am not sure if I am going to keep my force or not. It’s one of those things that I feel like I will want to explore again someday. Right now I’m playing on the Hydra and Syntakt and Digitone backed up by Ableton. I have learned so much from people like you, thank you!!

[@joefilbrun]

Hey Romenet, thanks for that, and glad you picked up some portable concepts from this video! I feel like the Force definitely powers up my workflow and I think I’d be kind of lost without it at this point. But I know where you’re coming from. It’s like we’re living in a golden age of synths and sequencers, and there’s a lot of good choices. It’s nice to be able to choose what inspires you to be the most creative.

[@EnochLight]

Hey Joe! This was a *FANTASTIC* deep dive - awesome work man!!! Force/MPC’s autosampler is such a gem - very cool tutorial! Thanks so much for your contributions to the Akai community!

[@joefilbrun]

Thanks for watching and for the great compliment, @EnochLight! I appreciate the encouragement!

[@gushingcloud303]

Thank you for making. You’ve inspired me to autosample some crazy sounds from modular synths.

[@joefilbrun]

Oh hey, that’s awesome to hear! Modular was really my motivation for getting the Force in the first place. I really like all the unique things you can pretty much only do with a modular. But I was never able to develop ideas beyond a certain point with the modular alone. So I think modular and a Force or MPC is a great combo!

[@rspbobthomas]

Propably the best tutorial videos for Force on KZbin. Well done. 👍

[@joefilbrun]

Thanks for saying so, and for watching! I’m glad you’re part of the Force community!

[@christophremmery4520]

Thank you for this again great tutorial on the Force, Joe. I am so thrilled to see that the same person who made the ER-301 more clear to me, is delving into the Force

[@joefilbrun]

Oh, wow, I wondered if any other 301 owners had much interest in the Force. Nice to see you here!

[@johnnylucid]

I subbed and really appreciate your tutorials. Thanks for the excellent content and keep up the great work!

[@joefilbrun]

Thanks for the sub, and for the nice comments! It really motivates for me to hear that you are getting some good info from these!

[@karl.weaver]

Subbed, loving the details and amount of time taken to explain each parameter!

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

Very concise and articulate. Earned a sub.

[@Noise-Conductor]

Thanks Joe, I'll spread this dope demo!

[@joefilbrun]

Thanks @Poetic Noise - always appreciate you doing that!

[@sansmojo]

Thanks so much for this!

[@joefilbrun]

Hey sansmojo, you're welcome!

[@zandtussenjetenen]

Have a force. Never did something like this but very informative and entertaining vid. Thanks! Regards.

[@joefilbrun]

Hey @zandtussenjetenen, glad you enjoyed it, and I hope you get a chance to try it out sometime. It can open up some new doors and lead you down a path you might not have gone down otherwise.

[@zandtussenjetenen]

@@joefilbrun Just a simple beat makes me happy already.😋 Im too old for that learning curve but love too watch such video's.. Regards from Holland.. 👍

[@robjones4173]

Awesome tutorial Joe! Thanks so much!

[@billbradleymusic]

Clear and concise.

[@lofi_soul_jazz]

Thanknyou for your steady kind guidance!!

[@joefilbrun]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching!

[@soundofmai]

Such a helpful video!

[@joefilbrun]

Hey Mai - so glad to hear you got something out of it!

[@ZZKJ396]

Well done!👍

[@joefilbrun]

Thanks ZZKJ!

[@agustinbernal2760]

Thank you very much!!!

[@camp0017]

Practical problems of (auto)sampling synthesizers: 1) works great for relatively simple waveforms, but if there's more sophisticated synthesis involved (many layers of the sound, moving phase, effects like rotary, wave sequencing), problems crop up; 2) the beauty of many synths lies in the tweaking of parameters during performance (via knobs, aftertouch, control strips, modulation wheel, vector synthesis etc.). 3) Looped synthesiser samples never sound as good as the continuous synthesiser-generated sound, especially when several LFOs are involved. Sampling creates a "static" image of the sound and although you can add your own modulation and effects to the keygroup, it will never recreate the original sound-forming options. Just one example: try autosampling a drawbar organ and you will immediately notice the limitations. First of all, you cannot control individual drawbars once you sampled it; then the rotary speed changes within each keygroup range, which is not acceptable (the solution would be to sample each key individually); finally, the desirable effect of gradual rotary speed increase/decrease/brake, so often used by organists, is gone. And yes, I rely a lot on sampled instruments, but I can also see the limitations.

[@xenosoul1363]

Thank you

[@Harkan-NrV]

😮❤Thanks Joe 🔥🔥🔥

[@teoscrubsalot7980]

Thanks Joe! Your tutorials are really helpful, great explanations and easy to follow. Curious why you set the Keygroup setting to "All" when adjusting keygroup parameters?

[@joefilbrun]

Hey @teoscrubsalot7980, thanks! A keygroup (instrument) can contain multiple keygroups. You can think of that second one as a group of keys that can either be side by side, or layered on top of each other. Each keygroup has its own set of samples and parameters. Up at the top you can see how many total keygroups are in the program, and which one you currently have selected for editing. When you auto-sample, it does create multiple keygroups, side by side. Every sample it takes creates a keygroup. Each one could have its own unique parameters for things like the envelope, filter, LFO, etc. So I set it to "all" so that I can adjust them all at once rather than having to go make those adjustments one by one to each keygroup. Hope that makes sense!

[@teoscrubsalot7980]

Very much so! That was excellent, thank you :D@@joefilbrun

[@mopoco9666]

hail flatulence!😂 but more importantly, thank you for this awesome guide on the autosampler, Joe.

[@joefilbrun]

Lol mopoco. You can sample flatulence if you want to, but don’t blame me if your tracks sound like ****. :)

[@mcnovae7456]

Thanks!

[@joefilbrun]

Cheers!

[@plantificationpodcast]

Joe your videos are great. I am having a hard time with my Launchkey 49 setup on the Force. Could you do a video on that?

[@joefilbrun]

Thanks Plantification! Unfortunately I have never owned a Launchkey so I don’t know much about it.

[@plantificationpodcast]

@@joefilbrun How about a midi controller setup video then? They're all similar to the Force. CC controls and MIDI channels. The Forces MIDI learn stuff is I guess where the magic happens. Thanks Jay🌱😉

[@joefilbrun]

@@plantificationpodcast That sounds doable!

[@awkwardtom]

Great vid thanks - for Drum autosampling Is there any way to reduce the sampling time to less than 1 second? as that’s way to much and it’s a pain to trim a whole kit worth of short samples

[@JohnnyJohnHub]

Did i Underground corectly, the connection is big output jack of hyndra goes to two big input jack of force? Thnak you in advance for fedback

[@vertigev]

Hi Joe, have you ever used your own multisamples to create a keygroup? Looking at the manual for this (page 55), it seems you'd have to load them all individually which doesn't seem right. On MPC you just hold SHIFT in the loader and the option "Load All" shows up so you can load all the samples in a folder. I'm not seeing that on the Force but figured you might know. Thank you!

[@joefilbrun]

Hey @vertigev, thanks for watching. I have not found a way to load samples in bulk on the Force, which is kind of a bummer indeed. Would definitely be a good feature to port over from the MPC.

[@vertigev]

@@joefilbrun Thank you. I'm going to try creating it on the MPC and load it on the Force, it "should" work 🙂

[@lofi_soul_jazz]

Hi Joe, I went back to try what you said but am really having a hard time getting the autosampler to work well .. I'm wondering if i could hire you to go over a few things with me in a 1 on 1 session. For example I am autosampling some Singing bowls, long samples.. rregardless of how long the note length is, it always cuts off the end. I don't know if the autosampler is 'holding down the note" or some other thing becaues it just doesn't make sense and i've tried it to my wits end.. i've tried adjust the release on the VST it is sampling. That kind of works but it doesn't get the right effect. Generally I wonder if you also find the autosampler a bit buggy sometimes having weird artifacts or mixed sounds. or one note with a different velocity? Your videos were really helpful but i might need more support! :) I sent you a msg via FB

[@abbyncanarias5954]

After AUTOSAMPLING an ELECTRIC GUITAR of my YAMAHA MOTIF XF8 I have noticed 2 things: 1. The YAMAHA has a feature that change sound when 2 or more keys are play toguether. I know...I must find out first if this an effect, a layer or whatever... 2. I have lost any kind of pitch or modulation control from the wheel of my controller keyboard on the AKAY FORCE SAMPLE KEYGROUP. ADVICES FOR THE SECOND ISSUE??? Thanks in advance... Here a fan and subs (with bell on)

[@hobonickel840]

Thanks for the content .. I have question about options for SSD 1tb or 2tb... do these new SSD Sata III drives have to be formatted prior to installing? Is there anything I need to know before buying a 2 tb internal 2.5 drive .. I see many using 1tb but they usually don't talk about compatibility or ease formatting on newer data drives ... I just don't want to get one and find out it don't work for some silky reason and I don't know much about them other than 2 is better than 1 in most cases including storage ... I also don't know how hard it would be to fill up a 1 tb drive .. thanks

[@joefilbrun]

Hi there, thanks for watching! I don’t really know the answer to these questions. I have an SSD in mine but don’t even remember what kind I put in there. I’d recommend joining the Akai Force Users Facebook group and posting the question there. I think you’ll likely get better answers than I can give you. Here’s a link: facebook.com/groups/2258970104361753/?ref=share

[@eliaszerano3510]

Can it offline autosample or des it need to play all stuff fully ?

[@CRV1958]

Could you do a video on how to sample an Acoustic piano { Ivory, Ravenscroft, Keyscape etc?}

[@joefilbrun]

Hey there. You mean an AU/VST and not an actual piano, right? The process is the same as what’s in this guide. Just a matter of setting up a MIDI track to go to out your computer, and getting the computer audio back. Into the Akai. A full 88 key piano with no loops, a stride of 1, and 4 velocity layers is going to be HUGE in size. You could sample some smaller note ranges with different stride values and see how you feel about the stretched result to try to get the size down. Even just a stride value of 2 cuts the size in half. You could also try looping them, but I think the premium VSTs you’re talking about don’t have looped samples, and you’ll probably notice a big difference in sound quality. I would probably try to get the quality/size balance right with stride rather than loops, with a piano. Disclaimer: I’ve never tried to auto sample a full piano, so this is all just my best guess on that.

[@CRV1958]

@@joefilbrun Thank you for the response. I am relatively new to the MPC world. I did try sampling straight out of my Kawai MP11Se which has great pianos and the result was no good. I will rewatch the video again and take your response into my thinking also and then try again. Thank you again.

[@joefilbrun]

Just out of curiosity, have you tried out the demos for either the Stage Piano plugin or the Fabric collection, which comes with a dedicated piano plugin to see if you like them? They are paid upgrades. But I bought them with my own money and for me they are worth it. www.akaipro.com/mpc-plugin-instruments

[@CRV1958]

@@joefilbrun I have tried them and for me they didnt work. Not that I am better or anything at all like that, but I am used to a certain sound in piano and they didnt reach it. But thanks for the input, appreciate it.

[@djmugen38]

hi, super vidéos ! Is It possible to do a tutorial on how to design a Song from scratch? tutorial for Akai force very thank you😉🙃

[@joefilbrun]

Hey @djmugen38, thanks for watching. Yeah, I might consider doing a video like that. There are so many different ways to approach it. Thanks for the idea!

[@patrickbateman7444]

Lol, i'm watching this for the 4th time, and realized i hadn't clicked the like button yet. My bad!

[@sergiodelkamacalmel9806]

Great job and thank for u initiative. but speak more slowly please . Because the translate banner ( in french for me ) is very difficult to see an understand . It's too fast . And the result is .... stop rewind play stop rewind play etc etc 😉

[@karl.weaver]

Camping trip?

[@joefilbrun]

Hey @beaverkiss. Wait, you mean everyone doesn't take their Akai standalone device on camping trips? Uh oh. I may have a problem...

[@timevaultart]

Very professional and informational but the dramatic cinematic music just destroys the ability to focus and listen. If you removed the music, this would be best.