Autoglym Reflow - Remove Bird Poo Etchings the Correct Way ?

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[@tzeyangchua7908]

I decided to give this a go after watching your review. 75% chance seemed good enough for me. I had two 50p sized bird poop marks on my boot, put the pack on as per the instructions, left it and came back and the marks were still there like on your failure result. However a quick 10 second hand polish with Super Resin Polish on a microfibre and they came straight out. These were two marks that I'd previously attacked with Meguairs Ultimate Compound + Dual Action and wouldn't budge, I thought a wet sand was going to be in order and this was my last resort. So the fact its gone without cutting into my clear any further is a top result.

[@AutoglymUK]

Wow! Great feedback, wish we had seen this sooner!

[@ObsessiveCarDetailer]

And this is why your channel is clearly NUMBER 1. The only thing that worries me is the size of that bird crap on the door. Bloody glad I don't live in that area as clearly you have flying cows 💩🤣

[@BobDiggler76]

Flying cows LMAO

[@ObsessiveCarDetailer]

@@BobDiggler76 Lets hope they give us a miss Bob. The last thing you need on those cars of yours ☔️

[@davidneale530]

I remember a few years back when they revealed they'd researched it properly and found it was the texture of the dropping leaving an imprint on softened clear coat rather than 'etching'. (Worst I had was just from an afternoon at the beach, even cleaned asap) Good to see they now have a user-friendly way to at least try and reverse the process. Even if it doesn't fully work every time, if you then need to remove less clear to finish the job that's a good thing isn't it? Another thought, the worst damage is going to happen in the hotter months, so that's the best time to use it, while the sun is getting the panel hot for you to begin with.

[@BananerRepublic]

correct... hair dryer takes them out

[@johngatland]

Hi Jon, It would have been interesting to have used your thermometer on those heatpacks to see what the required temp was, that way using a heat gun you would know what your max temp should be. Perhaps try the heatgun on a scrap panel with etchings and finish off with that small rotary plus srp as that would introduce more heat again. I wouldn't buy it as much too expensive for me as I am so tight. All the best

[@jeremys8360]

Steamer would probably be better

[@M.E63]

Heat gun or hair dryer does work to remove bird poo etching according to lots of people , many videos show it but looks like I need to try it

[@boyasaka]

There is tight and tight , how can it be expensive It’s £5 quid to remove a permanent bird etch Same price as a coffee from Costa

[@Retset]

I had heard you could get rid of etchings with careful use of a heatgun. Never dared try! This looks a bit more of a controlled way of doing it. Edit: typed this before 21:45 ...

[@minimadmotorman]

I've improved them with a heat gun on an old car before but I also did some damage to another where the clearcoat was very damaged. It's something I'd try on my own car but not on someone else's without express permission and understanding of potential damage.

[@hayden199516]

I was about to say,wouldn't a gentle heat gun session do the same as these packs?

[@stephencarbonaro5462]

Nice review as usual. I've kept track of bird etchings on the hood of my black car that dissappear as it heats up in the summertime. I've always wondered if it was the heat that took care of them.

[@leecannon-miller4742]

I have had good results on older clear coat with a hairdryer!

[@Mdetailing]

John dear sir, they are some shipping or patent laws that ( i am not 100% sure in details) if you put the label , you have some discounts on shipping, also some hazardous listed material can be listed of hided much different in the sds sheet, also with this label brands can protect much more their patent of the products and some other similar reasons why they put label. I know for example that huge ceramic coating brands ,when they put proffecional use only they can hide some sio2,ti02 percenatges from the sds sheet.

[@gmans7859]

I like it. This was a great review/ demonstration. My take is that even if it doesn't remove the markings completely, the follow up compounding and or simple polish would be much much less.

[@gavinking4075]

John Brilliant video love the fact you are so honest even when they send u stuff you keep honest kudos to you !

[@SomeMadRandomPerson]

Yip, and that's why Jon is my go to guy, worth being a Patreon Gav 😉👍🏻

[@gavinking4075]

@@SomeMadRandomPerson indeed and that why I am ;)

[@DrNitin14]

Whelp that's impressive and exactly what I need. PS that's the new model polo not a golf

[@flacko001]

I bought one and used it on my 2021 ilx and it worked.

[@detailmax]

Thank you very much for all of your reviews and outstanding information for the detailing world!

[@amounifnd]

Amazing the Sun just can't do this on a hot day. What an awesome result though. Well done to Autoglym. Same way army rations are heated in the field. Soon you will be able to re paint your car from a DIY packet....

[@jamesh2515]

Very interesting and helpful review. - particularly liked the comments on “watch outs” for just trying to polish away and the issues it could cause a few years down the road. Thanks.

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Eureka, on the first try it worked, but it would be more difficult for it to work on vertical angles because of how it doesn't completely sticks flat. Xoxo from Puerto Rico 👍🇵🇷

[@barrybij8079]

Very interesting... I've seen in forums guys laughing at others for heating up and reforming clear..this proves its possible... very neat product..no mess etc

[@jonbrown6352]

I had a nasty etching on the soft paint of my GT86. Ended up wet sanding to get rid of the small mark but this looks fascinating. I've seen videos of people blasting the area with hot air from a heat gun or hair dryer, is this the same theory of melting and 'remoulding' the clear coat? EDIT - Just saw your conclusion, should have watched until the end before commenting.

[@ROASTEDREGIS]

15:46 Birds just waiting by making sounds ;D

[@richard73]

Two questions. 1.Why can’t you use it on a car over 3yrs old. 2.Would you be able to use it on a car which say is over 3 yrs but been resprayed say within 3 yrs.

[@robthomas7232]

3. What happens if you used it on a car over 3 years ...... lets say 4 years 8 months .... asking for a friend ;-)

[@tazrocks88]

When I was a detailer we used to do this with a heat gun which is all this does with a chemical reaction.

[@floatybisquit]

I was always told a heat gun used wisely was the answer!!

[@Stallzyx]

My dad demonstrated it works pretty well with Autoglym's Fast Glass to be honest and my mum demonstrated with the andrex moist wipes. Both methods work pretty well to be honest as long as you're careful in my experience :)

[@groundcontrol6876]

Would be interested in seeing the results a week later, after it's gone through enough heat cycles of day and night, etc. The whole video was blown out John, might wanna manually set your exposure.

[@ForensicDetailing]

new camera Andres, getting to grips with it now. 2 months later and etching has not returned.

[@mell3109]

Jon’s comment “Holy Crap” perhaps it was indeed Devine intervention haha

[@Jut1911]

Is the paint not swelling up with heat and hiding the etching? Will be interesting to go back to them in a weeks time and see if they re appear

[@ForensicDetailing]

2 months later and its still gone. Its not swelling its reforming. bit like the jelly in the bath tub analogy.

[@chrisyoung5573]

Might be something for you to look into. I use Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax and bird droppings clean off without leaving any residue, marks, stains or etchings. I have a 2 year old bmw and the car has had the Meguiars treatment on a monthly basis for a year now

[@mohamedmahasseb1461]

I do the same you are right

[@russellpetrie119]

what about magnets for the vertical surfaces

[@charlieskids4348]

Great idea but what can I use for aluminium panels? I suppose you need to rig something up that will apply some pressure.

[@russellpetrie119]

@@charlieskids4348 bean bags but with heavier material tapem on might work

[@BH-tp3pm]

Hey mate - would you ever consider reviewing Larry's products? The AMMO line ? I'm curious to hear an honest review of his white expensive range.

[@chrisglover480]

I’d like to see this as well

[@ForensicDetailing]

they are not really viable to purchase in the UK, yes you can get them but its like going to cost a fortune. i would love to try them as well though i bet they are great. but waiting for uk distribution to come.

[@BH-tp3pm]

@@ForensicDetailing could you perhaps ask Larry for some or am happy to create a go fund me page for you? I'm sure many of your followers would pay up mate

[@Ronke01]

@@ForensicDetailing will never happen IMO, he has no interest in foreign markets

[@richard73]

@@Ronke01 During some of his live videos,Larry has said he is looking for distributors within the UK.

[@gregchristie2763]

Hiya .. what cutting compound & grade did you use for this one ?

[@useurhed]

Do you think it might help on a small, deepish, older bird poo etching in a bonnet to 1) mask the spot, use a touch up brush to add a thin layer or 2 of clear coat to the etching, then do the reflow thing?

[@GazLan]

Don't forget there is water in the tube aswell as the syringe John!

[@Will-gd9dx]

autoglym posted this theory on a forum years ago, suggesting a heat gun, i tried it at the time and it did indeed work. why they release a product for it i dont know

[@ForensicDetailing]

they sell detailing products Will, its their job to create solutions to problems in this sector. problem with heat gun is maintaining the correct temp for the correct time without burning the paint. And I guess with this you can stick it on and leave it while you are working on other things. dunno though. not everyone will want this.. But I think theres a market for it.

[@darenreading3497]

Heat gun on low heat short duration and wipe with a microfiber cloth, then repeat several times until gone also works

[@d8vso745]

Does that mean you could fix other paint imperfections like “orange peel” or does that lie below the clear coat on the actual paint?

[@ForensicDetailing]

good question that. I was going to fire off instantly that this would not fix orange peel and then I suddenly thought hang on a minute.. Im not actually sure so I wont guess on this. I dont know is simple answer to this.

[@d8vso745]

@@ForensicDetailing I suppose even if it did, it wouldn’t be the best way if it’s a bit section. Having 4 on the go at the same time could be funny 😂 but a small repair that was a bit dodgy could be interesting to see

[@Madaboutshooting]

Still conflicted .... it’s £40 for 5 sachets and may not work?

[@Julian-zc9vm]

I wonder what temperature this thing gets to in order to fix the paint.

[@Pao-ob1jp]

Thank you for the great review and due diligence. Appreciate it👍

[@rudeboymd]

Had my bonnet repainted 2 weeks ago. Came back to the car after work to find seagull shite on the bonnet. Cleaned the car as soon as I got home and noticed etching afterwards. Gave this Autoglym reflow a try and it was useless. Did nothing at all. Also tried the heat gun method afterwards and did nothing. Also tried compound and polishing by hand but didn't shift the stain. Next step a light wet sand and machine polish...

[@AutoglymUK]

Sorry to hear your freshly painted car is already marked by bird dropping. also sorry to hear that in this instance, Reflow did bot fix it for you. We note you tried a heat gun after that also didn't fix it - this is something we discovered during the research for this product too - if Reflow doesn't fix it, a heat gun won't either. It is a mark that heat cannot remove whichever method you use.

[@paulhamilton6013]

These are not for me. You really need to check these after a week or so for shrinkage.

[@hendrikjan9116]

heatgun also works wonder

[@raftonpounder6696]

That’s a Polo not a Golf.

[@leestannard3345]

Looks similar to the flameless heater packs that come with MRE meals

[@larryleqend]

Chilly Mac for the win

[@MrSolveMYMaze]

Glad to see that its possible to do this. Also, where did you get the test panel from if you don't mind me asking?Been looking for one that size for quite a while

[@ForensicDetailing]

the red one AG sent me, I made my own ones up a while back though. steel, primer, paint, clear. take it to a bodyshop.

[@wingman5935]

I wonder if a Steam cleaner would work?!? Interesting

[@mell3109]

I was thinking the same thing, it would be interesting to record the temp that this goes to then to try and replicate it, a steamer with a cloth in a plastic bag? If you know what the temp is you could calibrated it with cloth thickness...perhaps

[@raftonpounder6696]

A steam iron on a low setting with a cloth on the paint.

[@mell3109]

@@raftonpounder6696 I would like to see a video on that, suggest title “I decided to Iron my paint smooth”

[@raftonpounder6696]

@@mell3109 if I had an old panel lying around I would give it a go.

[@SomeMadRandomPerson]

@@mell3109 I was thinking the exact same thing, made minus the bag tho and just use the steamer on to the cloth.......carefully

[@capsel22]

Make sure you are in shot! Love it. Good vid. This is as high tech as it gets lol

[@welshweeks01]

I bought this about a month ago to try on some bad etching on my 13 plate Mini. I know it stated best on cars under 3 years old but thought I'd give it a go anyway. The etching was on the roof. I'm not a professional but it's pretty simple to use. Unfortunately, it didn't work in the slightest for me but thought it was worth a punt.

[@ForensicDetailing]

its not my job to defend the product but it does state the product wont work on older than 2-3 year paintwork. maybe it was worth a go still wasnt it, and its usefull for people to know that its highly likely it wont work on old paintwork.

[@welshweeks01]

@@ForensicDetailing yes definitely worth a go for £30. As you've stated and I did in my op regarding car age though 🙂

[@wolvoman1]

Same effect as hand warmers (snap to activate) or microwavable heat pads for bad backs

[@archeryman62]

Trying some of this today on bird poo that has been on the car 2 years..goningbto try a heat gun process too

[@JB12132]

I’m going to have to polish it with that new 75mm in2detailing machine you like with super resin - what pad did you use in the end to remove it Jon? A 3000 grit?

[@ForensicDetailing]

I think a flex purple foam mate.

[@JWL-UK]

Good old SRP to the save the day on the second trial 😊

[@Mdetailing]

Not huge risk of contraction failures as the below.layers will.increase rapidly the temperature and the differeccles.between the primer-color-clear and their different capabiyities to expant and compress the.separated.layers?

[@decker0373]

Hi John, I have 3 etchings on my black and as with all my detailing questions, I found an answer on your channel, cracking. I just wondered, by using SRP, will the etching return as the fillers breakdown, is it a case of, rebuff on the machine every few months? Thanks.

[@ForensicDetailing]

No m8

[@rb8946]

Thanks for all the awesome videos :) 1 question if I may unrelated to this video. Winter is coming - and I want to use surfex hd to pre wash the pre wash but can't find a concentration recommended for paintwork. I was going to guess at 1:15, but remembered you do the same thing. What do you do? Thanks again

[@ForensicDetailing]

1:15 is too strong. Thats about 7% PIR. too strong mate. More like 1:30 which is about 3% PIR.

[@altypeRR]

I’d be interested to see what happens if used on older paint. Have you got any older test panels John that you could try it on and report back?

[@ForensicDetailing]

it wont work on old paint, it looses its malleability. 2-3 years new paint only unfortuetly.

[@thomasstapel6824]

Suppose you have a nano coated car. Do you need to removed that coating first or does it still work ?

[@ForensicDetailing]

this should not matter the coating is too thin to stop the heat disipating through. but its a great question. I dont know without testing is the proper answer.

[@123saup]

This unfortunately did not work for me. Mine is a 7 year old car.

[@jasonfournier]

Best video to date. Really interesting.

[@terry9468]

Hi Jon, Where do you get the test panels from. Cheers

[@richardparsons9705]

Thanks for the review and good to know. However it would be good to know the cost as I don't think this was covered in the review.

[@ForensicDetailing]

yer your right should have been covered at the start that and weather this is good or bad value at least. thanks rich good fair feedback.

[@richardparsons9705]

@@ForensicDetailing thanks John. Good to hear from you and best of luck on the car revamp. It's never ending aye 😁 Also of note. I had a go ar the car roof and trying to get rid of water spots with Maguire's water spot remover. No such luck.

[@Audittr2108]

Amazing stuff but I think I’ll just polish out if I get any.

[@swift2117]

Thank you Jon.

[@paultumber1088]

Surely you could get the same result by using a heat gun on the affected area ?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Potentially but your could also destroy the paint if you overheat it

[@SCT15H]

Lol, just an MRE ration pack magnesium pouch. I'll have to keep hold of em from now on

[@mattus1gig]

Instead of a heat gun which can easily strip the paint if used for too long, could a hairdryer get hot enough?

[@shishuali4821]

Ive successfully used a hair drier to remove etchings its takes a little longer but is safer than a heat gun

[@ForensicDetailing]

i was about to say no but I was guessing sounds like shishu managed to do it.

[@davidwilliams8630]

Hi. A new Sub here and really enjoying looking through your back catalogue. Great content 👍. I'm new to this detailing world so getting my head around all the different types of products and the uses. Can you help me with a question please? I have just bought a car that has a 'Williams' paint protection treatment on it. The car is only 18 months old and in very good condition. Is there any treatment I shouldn't use as I'm wondering if it would strip the paid-for 'Williams' paint treatment. Or is it just a gimmick? Cheers. Dave

[@ForensicDetailing]

Hi ya, the williams is a ceramic coating.. so wash it with something like carpro reset, and just top it up with a SI02 spray like carpro reload.

[@davidwilliams8630]

Great, thankyou. Appreciate that.

[@jdisdetermined]

So it's basically an MRE heater at 10x the price.. still cool though, something different, they're taking a risk and trying to innovate.

[@adstober]

Jon...I'm going crazy...please tell me...I wash my black civic and a day later ...it's dusty...how and why...how can I stop this...best product to keep dust away ..I know it's not gonna keep it totally away...but help please

[@ForensicDetailing]

its just the warm air thats coming up from like africa bringing dust with it. a lot of people have been noticing a thin dust layer over their cars in the last few days :)

[@PixelVogue]

Should have put a temp gauge on it see how hot it gets....maybe thats why its pro use only....can damage the clear out? Im ooooouttt!

[@S3ni0rCit1z3n]

I know I'm commenting on an old video but, I have a 10 year old black one series beemer and I have 3 nasty bird etchings on the roof. I attempted the removal with a hairdryer and all I did was melt the cone of the hairdryer. I'm considering getting a heat gun and using the low power of that to do attempt No2. My question is, is it worth it or am I on a lost cause. The bird poop went dry and hard as I was away at work at the time so the etching is quite bad and being black is VERY noticable.

[@ForensicDetailing]

Buff it mate with machine polisher

[@km9643]

Mate, if that bloke allowed for a dropping that size to etch he deserves the bollox!

[@ForensicDetailing]

its a friend of his car but its not a case of allowing it to happen, I could go away for a week and come back and its happened, in fact it can happen in a matter of hours. you cant always monitor you car life gets in the way.

[@SuperChudley]

@@ForensicDetailing I am sure the seagulls where I live aim for my sons car :)

[@WestfieldFreshAir]

I've cleaned on off within 30 minutes on a BMW. Couldn't believe how heavily etched it was.

[@km9643]

@@ForensicDetailing Right, BUT are you impressed with my ability to be while being an American?

[@BenVallack]

@@WestfieldFreshAir dark paint?

[@Nagfan09]

Hi Jon...sorry for the off topic post,but do you have any video reviews of the latest generation of in2detailing branded dual action polishers?? I think I seen you review some of the older ones but I think Imran has a new variant now??? Thanks

[@ForensicDetailing]

coming soon mate.

[@Nagfan09]

@@ForensicDetailing Good man,thinking of snagging one of them around black friday time!!

[@keithgardner9593]

John thanks you your channel

[@k17sher]

It didn't work on my Dec 2015 black sapphire BMW. The etching remained unchanged.

[@ForensicDetailing]

7 year old paintwork m8.

[@aquatics117]

I had really bad etching and tool my car to a body shop, they walked indoors took there heatgun and did it within 5 minutes for free

[@CobnutVTS]

i think this is more for plastic panels because a heat gun could cause damage to the plastics

[@alanburgess3453]

I assume I'll be wasting both time and money using it on the roof of our 19 year old Vauxhall Corsa. We've owned it from new and it has seen more birds 'A' holes than I've had hot dinners.

[@ForensicDetailing]

buff it out mate this product wont be suitable due to age.

[@alanburgess3453]

@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for the reply. Your channel content is very informative and I really appreciate your 'no nonsense' approach.

[@simongibbs7224]

Didn’t it say leave it 10 mins after removing pack? Probably to allow residual heat out of the clear coat

[@ForensicDetailing]

yer we had a quick look but even 10 minutes later it had not changed. you can tell when its worked.. not sure why it did nothing. could it be airflow cooling it? could the heat be disipating differently on that panel? could it be to do with the pack not being pressed as hard on vertical panel? who knows.

[@markymali]

Just use a hairdryer and watch the bird poo haze disappear in front of your eyes.. heat is the key thing here.

[@jonandlisa2000]

Great content again 👍

[@PsyMongSki]

this product uses the same product as the military use for heating up the rations. the best way to do the same thing is to use just a normal heat gun. its very expensive to use this autoglym product you can get a cheep heat gun for about the same price. Also you are better useing a heat gun so you can regulate the heat going onto your pannel better the autoglym will juts heat and heat your car pnnal and thats not a good idea. its called Re-Flowing also if you have the heat gum you can use it too blacken your old black plastic trim. so cool idea autoglym but your better off with a heat gun.

[@173customdetailing9]

What about cellulose paint , this is what I deal with every day, I don't do modern vehicles , and the only reason there's clear coat because the painter can't spray 😊

[@ForensicDetailing]

its says in the faq's all clearcoated surfaces but yer interesting. maybe one for AG that is.

[@garethdale1531]

What's thr make and model of your polisher

[@ForensicDetailing]

Flex pxe 80 if it's the mini

[@AnAntidisestablishmentarianist]

3:21 For use on vehicles with clear coat anally?

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

Just my opinion but screw that! I'll stick to properly maintaining my car and ensuring my car never gets any etching at all! Alternatively, if the worst does happen, I'll call my local detailer and get him to stick my car under his infra-red heat lamps and get the same effect in a much more controlled and,more importantly, INSURED manner!

[@ForensicDetailing]

If you take your car outside and you leave it outside for even half a day you can get a nasty strong poop and etching. this is called life. Its not a case of not maintaining your car properly as such.

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

@@ForensicDetailing true. But I'd still much rather have someone else do it for me. At least if its buggered up its THEIR insurance paying for it! Lol.

[@petermcgillion1967]

Very interesting product

[@aidanmaclennan8150]

I remove bird crap all the time with heat. But i use a heat gun and gradually heat up the area. A lot Cheaper than theae pads as you can use it over and over again. I. Personally think this product is a bit of a con. But the theroy behind it definitely works.

[@boyasaka]

And a gear gun which is designer to ment and strip paint can easily do that to your car This is a much safer option for £5 I’ll pay the 5er

[@andrewmccallum5699]

thanks / looks super magic :)

[@Gooddaytosavelives412]

Nice product! & Amazing review! But would I but it? Probably not :)

[@russellpetrie119]

who makes them polishers?

[@mimmigranaas3440]

Flex 👍

[@tokyodetailing4563]

can you do a 26JPN review?????

[@aaronfuksa2047]

I did not here anything about lacquer, so no issue I suppose.

[@kingkemal1]

Will it fix scratches?

[@ForensicDetailing]

no mate, at least not the juicy ones you can see easily under normal light

[@alterego467]

That‘s a Golf? Looks like a Polo to me🤷🏽‍♂️

[@PixelVogue]

New Polo is probably as BIG as the older Golf!

[@raftonpounder6696]

You’re correct. It is a Polo.

[@hairycornflake8580]

This work on bug splatter etching?

[@ForensicDetailing]

in theory yes same rules apply on pre-reqs though.

[@rayaanshaikh5830]

Ive had much better results with a simple hairdryer. Takes a while longer but its fine to be honest, its not like you do it everyday!

[@dj_paultuk7052]

Oh wow, they are using MRE cooking bags. You can get those for like £5 comes with a complete meal too !.

[@dj_paultuk7052]

My word!!, they are charging £40 for some MRE cooking bags. Save yourself £35 and just get the real thing. Must show this to @bigclive

[@ForensicDetailing]

so the reflow bag is 30 quid for 5 applications 6 quid an application. Of course its using the same tech. But they have to recreate bespoke packaging for it and fasteners, printing etc nothing is free and they do all this in house. Its not going to be the same price as the camping heater cooking bags is it? maybe autoglym have used larger quantities of the heating granuals inside it, maybe its been tweaked to heat higher or lower and for different times?? maybe it is not and the MRE bag will work? there will be guys like you that look at things like this and dismiss it which is fine. But there will be other people out there that might have high value cars that have this problem and can use the kit to solve the problem and save themselves a lot of money. put yourself in the mindset of someone that loves there car and needs to solve this problem are they going to go and strap a MRE cooking bag on the side of the car or this kit from autoglym that cost then like a tener extra or something.

[@freshday633]

so you just need a hair dryer to produce heat hot water lol

[@Charlie-gx9lm]

Try it on the clubsport or the e36

[@ForensicDetailing]

it wont work according to manufacturer paintwork is way way too old. I have one left though I will try it on something or give it away for someone else to test.

[@Charlie-gx9lm]

@@ForensicDetailing just had a little scroll through google and KZbin and found that it works on practically any car with a hairdryer/ heat gun 🤷‍♂️ amazing really ive spent years just polishing them out 😂

[@russellpetrie119]

price point?

[@CobnutVTS]

30 or 40 quid

[@matthewsavidge6248]

Anyone who treats theyre car that way in the frst place isnt worthy of a detailers fair hand and time, off to the polish wash with you lol, Also POLO, inspection light may have helped !