Automatically Disinfect Oxygen and Water! Oxygen Not Included

  Рет қаралды 308,144

Brothgar

Brothgar

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 438
@DarthPoyner
@DarthPoyner 4 жыл бұрын
I put this together from your inspiration. I found that you don't need all that auto setup. Daisy chain the tanks, put a valve on the output, set the valve to about half the input (may take some tinkering) then put a germ sensor between the tanks linked to a cut off right after the valve. With the reduced output there is enough time to clean the germs in the tanks. So fill the tanks with your liquid/gas. Setup your chlorine input (automated or one time). Pump the chlorine in and give it time to clean the tanks. Then connect the output and let it go. The only maintenance is to adjust the output valve if you add a new or increase the source.
@VulpeculaJoy
@VulpeculaJoy 6 жыл бұрын
Yo this thing essentially works like a heart with 2 chambers.
@vikb8340
@vikb8340 6 жыл бұрын
Liquid cleaner after seeing this vid: "I guess ill die"
@mikkelnpetersen
@mikkelnpetersen 5 жыл бұрын
Came for "how to disinfect water", there were none, dislike.
@ApocolypseChild
@ApocolypseChild 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikkelnpetersen False, he showed right at the beginning, and mentioned again a couple times, this method works exactly the same for liquids (like water) as it does for gases. Same exact setup using liquid reservoirs instead of gas. I came for the same thing.
@raik1766
@raik1766 5 жыл бұрын
nope u still need to make polluted water to water so no
@tehmessiah5617
@tehmessiah5617 4 жыл бұрын
Kingofgerman letsplays seive it once there’s no germs or seive it first and then remove germs
@tripleaffirmative5p
@tripleaffirmative5p 5 жыл бұрын
So you could say that oxygen is now indeed included
@QuantumFluxable
@QuantumFluxable 6 жыл бұрын
so for the lavatory system: since you can control when the dupes go to the toilet, just make sure that they don't go during one half of the day (if you work with shifts), then use a clock sensor to flush the lavatory tank that is immersed in chlorine right before the first bathroom breaks. If the food poisoning takes less than half a day to die off this should be enough to do it, although you can get some more time to kill it if the dupes have their bathroom break at the same time. That means more lavatories though...
@jtjc4912
@jtjc4912 6 жыл бұрын
Nice editing, I greatly appreciate being able to actually SEE the intellectual process happen with the quick cuts from "lets do this" to "hmm ::stares:: what am I going to do" to a deletion of the current previous thought pipes xD. It allows people to see that those who come up with the great blueprints don't just "know" what to do, it's a process of figuring it out; and it also helps to learn how the different automations are working with each other.
@desislavvelchev8728
@desislavvelchev8728 6 жыл бұрын
I spent hours perfecting a morb oxygen farm where I pump oxygen in 2 different rooms depending on time of day and using wheezeworts to cool the oxygen down so the slimelung dies, and now you can do it in less than a minute with this? Damn ;(
@FC-ci7vb
@FC-ci7vb 6 жыл бұрын
don't be sad about it :P
@shishkebab64
@shishkebab64 6 жыл бұрын
Total time to remove all the germs isn't half time x2. If you had 1024, after 11s you would have 516, after another 11s you still have 256 and so on until it reaches 1 and deletes. That is why it slows down A LOT when it's in low numbers. if you want to know how long it takes, do log2(germs) and multiply by time (10 times in cae of 1024 so its 110s). Also, difference between 10k and 50k germs is only 22s
@NoOne-fe3gc
@NoOne-fe3gc 6 жыл бұрын
the wonders of logarithmic growth
@christianvalente3376
@christianvalente3376 4 жыл бұрын
Exponential /Decay/
@donbionicle
@donbionicle 6 жыл бұрын
Now watch Chlorine disinfecting gas/liquid storage contents be unintended by the devs and patched out. Muahahaha.
@biocube5838
@biocube5838 6 жыл бұрын
Brutakalaka but making a loop with a shutoff only cost 10 w while allowing much more storage while these gas / liquid storage contain much less , it might be nerfed like 20% dead cycle but i dont think it will be patched out
@firebornliger
@firebornliger 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, can't have a good use for chlorine.
@MrKalidascopeEyes
@MrKalidascopeEyes 6 жыл бұрын
lucky us 4 months later still works.
@johangp1990
@johangp1990 4 ай бұрын
i came from the future, it was patched somehow...works different now 😂
@thesentientneuron6550
@thesentientneuron6550 6 жыл бұрын
I mentioned in that same video the use of cold temperatures to kill the germs. It's easier on the research as you only need wheezeworts, and some gas plumbing.
@AnotherSpaceCowBoy
@AnotherSpaceCowBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Not really. Chlorine is accessible much sooner than wheezeworts.
@lavanderk6145
@lavanderk6145 6 жыл бұрын
you could probably make steam turbines more effective by using the containers to build up the charge and then release it once it is full and the steam that is wasted will be recycled into the system by gas pumps or water pump (if it turns to water during the processes).
@abbycottontail
@abbycottontail 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is the heat limit of the container, (max 125c, steam need to be 300c for the steam turbine). Unless I missed it.
@travispluid3603
@travispluid3603 6 жыл бұрын
Might be able to tune the temperature with radiant pipes after the reservoir.
@TheYrrinotherapy
@TheYrrinotherapy 6 жыл бұрын
Travis Pluid that kills entire point of B Walk's suggestion. I do cook steam on a go for turbine - as soon as it's made in Pwater evaporation chamber, move it through freshly cooked petroleum and dump under the turbine. when enough pressure is built in the chamber doors open and allow steam through turbine. No need for container here.
@TheYrrinotherapy
@TheYrrinotherapy 6 жыл бұрын
problem here is that it will release only at 1kg per tick. But if chamber under the turbine is small and above it it's almost vaccum... I need my drawboard!
@lavanderk6145
@lavanderk6145 6 жыл бұрын
Since it can't withstand the heat of the steam but metal tile on top of the magma then to give the charge the water container with a inside full of dup waste then the steam that is not used is recycled turned into water and put back into the charge.
@jessiuss_juiice
@jessiuss_juiice 6 жыл бұрын
This is a nice system. Very clean ; )
@Tuxfanturnip
@Tuxfanturnip 6 жыл бұрын
Nice icon :)
@jessiuss_juiice
@jessiuss_juiice 6 жыл бұрын
Tuxfanturnip Thanks! Drew it myself : )
@IcoKirov
@IcoKirov 6 жыл бұрын
for me it's overcomplicated. all you need is for the oxygen to stay in the tank for a bit before being released. so just use timers. one timer open a shut off valve to fill in the tank, then when it's off and the oxygen is clean, the other shut off valve opens and the oxygen is released. that's it. and you can have two tanks if you want so while one is collecting the other is venting and vice versa this way instead of having a ton of not gates, memory gates, sensors and so on, you just have a timer (maybe two if all need to be off for a time to get cleaned) and two shut off valves per tank.
@IcoKirov
@IcoKirov 5 жыл бұрын
@cotasam Nguyễn a bit of playing around to make it work i guess. i haven't really played the game that much since then to test it myself. and to be honest i don't really remember much of the video. but yeah, pump it for some time with the dirty air, then stop it and let it clean itself. if i'm not mistaken the germs were dying at specific rate. meaning X amount of germs will always die for Y amount of time. which means you only need to find an upper threshold of how many germs are pumped for the time you fill it, calculate the time needed to kill them, set the timer for a bit more, maybe double it to make sure. it may sound like a lot of work, and it probably is, but if i remember correctly the system showed here was also hit and miss at the start, until some balance was hit.
@josiahhockenberry9846
@josiahhockenberry9846 3 жыл бұрын
This really makes me appreciate that storage tanks now have automation.
@TheGalifrey
@TheGalifrey 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome design, and yes, the same system works perfectly for Polluted Water vents as well!
@tejing2001
@tejing2001 5 жыл бұрын
I've been playing around with this design, and I came up with a notable simplification. You can do it with just a single tank, without the possibility of getting the decontamination loop stuck, if you continue the pipe past the input of the tank and merge it (with priority) back into the input to the whole system. Then you just set up a pipe element sensor on that overspill path which resets the s/r latch which controls the input-side shutoff when there's something in it, which can then be set again when the element sensor in the main loop says the pipe is empty, as in your version. It is important to make sure the overspill pipe is long enough (after the sensor) to contain all the overspill that makes it through before the input shutoff kicks in, but if you make sure of that, it's perfectly robust. You can still, of course, use a second tank (in the chlorine or not) to let the input keep moving while the decontamination is happening, but it doesn't need any automation involvement, and you only need 2 shutoffs so it's slightly more energy efficient, and definitely more space efficient. It's also worth noting that the germ sensor needs to be set to "below 0" not "below 1" since "below" actually means "less than or equal to". If the next thing you're doing with the output is cleaning it into a substance that will slowly kill germs anyway, that 1 germ doesn't matter, but if you're storing the polluted stuff long term, that 1 germ will multiply and infest the output tank, so it's important to get it right. Yes, I know this video is old, but the relevant aspects of the game haven't really changed, so I figured I'd post in case anyone was interested.
@TheCodeakira
@TheCodeakira 5 жыл бұрын
element sensor+germ sensor+and gate+shutoff
@TheCodeakira
@TheCodeakira 5 жыл бұрын
the loop also, basically two tanks
@TheCodeakira
@TheCodeakira 5 жыл бұрын
actually you can get away with just one tank
@CODA96
@CODA96 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine this is how Harvard students whatsapp arguments look like.
@privacyfirst4769
@privacyfirst4769 6 жыл бұрын
"Look how happy they are!" [! hypothermia (3)]
@privacyfirst4769
@privacyfirst4769 6 жыл бұрын
10 minutes later all 3 are asleep on the floor.
@kjholm8342
@kjholm8342 4 жыл бұрын
have been trying to clean germ water for a few days now, and have tried to follow other people's instructions, and still get germs in my output. so hoping that your system will work. your instructions were a little more clear ... so wish me luck!
@michaelsdenney
@michaelsdenney 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Been watching most of your vids, you are the best of all the ONI video makers. But...Because this particular video was so AWESOME... I subscribed !
@_Katmai
@_Katmai 6 жыл бұрын
For the water automation, I use a two stage polluted water tank and heater. Heat the first tank up to ~70C, then once it gets close to full, shut the input down, use a germ sensor to monitor the amount in the water and then use doors under the tank to dump the hot cleaned polluted water into the secondary tank. This has a pump and goes into the sieve. Sieve cancels a good chunk of the heat out and then I use any number of options to cool that a further 10-20 degrees (Often using the thermal cooler thingy immersed in the first polluted water tank so the heater does not have to work as hard.
@mrbrigaming
@mrbrigaming 6 жыл бұрын
Good job on the automation design for infections polluted oxygen vent. Awesome. I do feel that next update should have a storage full automation signal out of the liquid and gas storage tanks
@dunkan44
@dunkan44 6 жыл бұрын
Feels like a bug, why should air impact contents? These tanks are not air tight? Also I'm assuming you have to be careful of air germs to not contaminate your storage. Seems counter intuitive.
@SaturnusDK
@SaturnusDK 6 жыл бұрын
No. It's intended. The reservoirs are categorized as storages as I noted when the first systems of this kind came out on the Klei forum a few weeks ago. All storages are exposed to the surrounding gas, so reservoirs should not be different.
@liamdoogan9215
@liamdoogan9215 6 жыл бұрын
It definitely doesn't make real life sense. But this would hardly be the only example of non-RL sense in ONI. It doesn't abide by the golden law of thermodynamics either so... meh. Imagination.
@dunkan44
@dunkan44 6 жыл бұрын
It makes sense from that standpoint, but it's not very intuitive. They probably shouldn't be classified the same way as standard solid object storage.
@TheYrrinotherapy
@TheYrrinotherapy 6 жыл бұрын
It's because tank allow water and chlorine be in the same tile AND interact with it. Haven't you stored your germy slime in compactors in chlorine environment?
@NickCombs
@NickCombs 6 жыл бұрын
Well, it does make sense that a small amount of chlorine (as or combined with chlorine dioxide) can be used to disinfect a large reservoir of fluid. You can look to most swimming pools and industrial air filtration for that. It's entirely possible that the tank could regulate the proper dose (0.5-2 ppm) of whatever's ambient to mix with its contents. No wonder they're so high up on the tech tree! The liquid storage tank would need to be more high tech than that though. It would need to do a test dosage and adjust it based on the the results (again like swimming pools). And if it's just using gaseous chlorine, it will need to bubble the gas through the water. Otherwise it would only kill surface germs. Still, that's well within ONI's high-tech realm of believable pseudo-physics.
@instantspeedlive8667
@instantspeedlive8667 6 жыл бұрын
this video has given me probably the single biggest advance in my play, being able to clear a swamp biome, pump the excess oxygen into a little chlorine tank, and fill my base with that sweet, sweet oxygen. LOVE IT
@colto2312
@colto2312 6 жыл бұрын
Watching you logic this out was fantastic.
@Garueri
@Garueri 6 жыл бұрын
Hello brothgar just passing out to say OH MY GOD THIS IS AEWSOME, now no more heating the water to killing germs and then colding it again. And by the way just did another coment saying another possible test that you could do that i did and found out amazing
@datahunter11
@datahunter11 5 жыл бұрын
Assuming that you can wire something to be active once the tank reaches a certain fill % you could probably wire it to close the input for a duration while it sanitizes/empties and then open it back up once the gas is transferred out.
@Gamer5898
@Gamer5898 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you still get to that method but you could also just run the cleaning while inactive. It would pump the reservoir for like 300sec then gas element sensor output from the geyser so when it stops you have a output from the gas tank with a pipe germ sensor into a "never contaminated storage“
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't slime lung die in clean O2?
@owholypwner3548
@owholypwner3548 5 жыл бұрын
cleaning the polluted oxygen with deodorizers would split the slimelung: in the 'clean' oxygen and the clay. Further complicating the decontamination process
@GhengisJohn
@GhengisJohn 5 жыл бұрын
If you have five years, sure.
@Urdaris
@Urdaris 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Awesome video. I was just thinking on making something like this. I thought "hmmm memory toggle, two reservoirs... and some stuff". But as I went to develop the idea I was getting a headache, then found your video, and you saved me a lot of time. I am sure behind the scenes there was a lot of thinking not filmed :) You earned as subscriber! A quick note though. Germs grow on polluted oxygen, and die on oxygen. Wouldn't it be faster to deodorize the polluted oxygen, then pump the oxygen, maybe with a mechanized filter to make sure, then into the gas reservoir system?
@bobromorca7198
@bobromorca7198 6 жыл бұрын
The realization that you no longer have to boil and cool water.
@owholypwner3548
@owholypwner3548 5 жыл бұрын
even though boiling and cooling water uses alot more power and is complicated, it does make polluted contaminated water into clean drinking water in one go
@esaedromicroflora1247
@esaedromicroflora1247 6 жыл бұрын
I challengend myself into trying to make my own version of this before watching the video. I used a single tank and a ghetto overflow sensor before the tank made with a bridge and a branching pipe with a liquid element sensor. Came out a monstrousity using two memory cells and a messed up logic, but it worked decently. Than I watched your video and damn you made it so elegant. Great design, I tested it also with liquids and works as expectedd.
@TheDrizzle404
@TheDrizzle404 6 жыл бұрын
It also dies slowly in oxygen, unless there's been a recent patch change. If you purify the polluted oxygen and then just let it sit for a while eventually it becomes clean.
@happichick777
@happichick777 5 жыл бұрын
Could you make a set of still blueprints (ie screenshots in the various modes) of the automation, ventilation, power, etc structures at the end? That would be really helpful for understanding and reproducing it. :)
@evanharden2003
@evanharden2003 5 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is hook a buffer gate up to your original sorter loop before you built the injector. This way the pipes will fill and then it will wait x seconds to turn off your intake shutoff allowing the tank to fill. This easily replaced all of your injector automation. I hope this helps anyone with only a small amount of space and materials with this build.
@bieuw5304
@bieuw5304 6 жыл бұрын
In our “real life” The cap of Gems is 1.000.000.000 per gram/ml Mostly
@SSODP
@SSODP 5 жыл бұрын
Diffrent types of germs exist... it's like saying a 5g of poison won't kill You, unless You're a baby, or it's some specific type/mix... dupes are clones, pretty dumm... suprisingly vunerable to germs...
@spoonikle
@spoonikle 6 жыл бұрын
Now our water treatment wont involve massive amounts of heat. Pretty sweet.
@tylers5952
@tylers5952 3 жыл бұрын
Brothgar: "see look how happy they are" Deups: **gets hypothermia
@SaudSarnaik
@SaudSarnaik 6 жыл бұрын
You can have 3 or 4 buffer storage tanks in series and control the output of each tank using the value and controlling the amount that goes out. The slower it goes the faster air or water gets cleaned. This won't need any power and we don't over use the resources.
@Gilhelmi
@Gilhelmi 5 жыл бұрын
You are very efficient. Thank you for getting to the point quickly.
@justinwhite2725
@justinwhite2725 6 жыл бұрын
As high up as they are on the tree - don't those have signals the way smart storage does? Then you could turn off input when it's half full.
@danielgreynolds4374
@danielgreynolds4374 6 жыл бұрын
this got way complicated, way fast. At 14:00 why not just put in a Bridge from the pump into the loop so if the container is full of germy air it just doesnt allow more to come in with the bridge then the loop can still run until some of it is clean and able to leave, which it should do till its about empty then itll fill back up with germy air again. Edit: I see the flaw in my thought process for it being full/empty as a container, but it will still keep the container side from backing up as it'd prioritize the existing loop. I will run this test tomorrow night and add in my findings
@GuilhermeFurst
@GuilhermeFurst 6 жыл бұрын
Orccam's razor. That would indeed just work. sadly the best thing would be some way to detect if a tank is completely full, which there isn't at the moment, however you could replicate the effect with a somewhat simple memory toggle.
@Irhalas
@Irhalas 6 жыл бұрын
That's true but you'll want the container to completely empty before adding new gas or you'll germify it (slightly, the germs will be shared) and you'll end up having very slightly germy gas pretty much all the time. That's making the system functional but very slow. If you replace that bridge by a shutoff controlled by a memory which is "set when the loop is empty" and "unset when some germ-free gas is detected", you'll have a cycle system that fills up as much as it can (input open but doesnt have priority), constantly loops until the container's contents are germ-free (closes input) and empties completely (opens input), and cycles again...
@TheBoundFenrir
@TheBoundFenrir 6 жыл бұрын
Like Guilherme said, there isn't a way to detect of the reservoir is full in the current build, so he can only detect when it's empty (by creating the loop and checking for when the loop has no gas in it). So to make sure he fills it all the way, he sets up a buffer that fills up to slightly less than the original system's max capacity, so that when he detects that the lower system is empty, he just dumps the entire buffer into the system, which means he knows for sure that it's "full". Another problem is he's wanting to check the status of the polluted oxygen inside the tank (that is, how many germs there are). The only way to detect that (currently) is to pull some gas out of the reservoir and check it in the pipe.
@GooPH00
@GooPH00 6 жыл бұрын
You could detect that a reservoir is full by having a bridge send priority to the reservoir and have a sensor detect the overflow. I was thinking of expanding on that idea to have the overflow go to a secondary and using the automation flip flop between them.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of a basic timer, you know the amount the vent can put out, maybe have it set at just over the amount received per release, to have a continuous operation, as you see he already cleared the full amount stored in a few cycles, unless you are adding more into the system from other means you do not need the full automation as in the video.
@ashurroth6585
@ashurroth6585 6 жыл бұрын
It's like a better slime distiller! Conveyors could suck slime out of a puft farm (if you have enough water) or slime deposit area and deposit it in the polluted oxygen geyser chamber to increase the polluted oxygen input for this system :)
@mapclickerandy
@mapclickerandy 6 жыл бұрын
Smooth model, loved it. Can't wait for more !
@monica9987
@monica9987 6 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see this in the automated base!!!
@IcyBalls-v3p
@IcyBalls-v3p 5 жыл бұрын
the system may get jammed randomly in cleaning loop (depending on how you build it). When gas is comming from charge tank while cleaning loop still cycling, the game then may decide to give the flow priority to gas flowing in cleaning loop over the gas from charge tank. And if that happens on the first cycle there will be not enough gas in cleaning loop to get some in a tank - therefore, gas will not get cleaned and will cycle endlesly. It can be fixed with a small adjustment, but it will cost some efficiency
@HungryHunter
@HungryHunter 6 жыл бұрын
@Brothgar Then it comes to gas/liquid flow the green exit takes second turn. Imagen a pipe like you had in the video. When gas runs by the green exit, the green exit can only pass the gas if its free. This means you have a T crosroades where the incoming streat need wait and the main road have the priority. I hope you understand what i ment
@stuartpratt3662
@stuartpratt3662 6 жыл бұрын
sadly that would not work cause we need the germfree fluid(gas/liquid are both considered fluid) to flow and the input of the polluted fluid would jam it up
@HungryHunter
@HungryHunter 6 жыл бұрын
i am just talking about the flow not some sorting system becouse brothgar can use this to sort it or have a better and direct overflow system.
@4samul
@4samul 5 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks! This is really useful for me because now I can remove all the germs that remain from the water distiller thing or whatever it was called so now I can use same water for food AND toilets etc.
@jhonojada89
@jhonojada89 6 жыл бұрын
good use to logic gates i see you are a man of culture as well
@MrRiccars
@MrRiccars 6 жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot about the tech tree is the germ sensors require plastics and those requisite techs.
@TheYrrinotherapy
@TheYrrinotherapy 6 жыл бұрын
A comment on valve-sensor setup. When used as filter, you may want to put sensor right before the valve as it's activating during next tick. I.e. when your sensor sees no gas right now (and zero germs), it opens the shut-off immediately, letting through whatever packet is sitting right before or in shut-off's output.
@Kurock1000
@Kurock1000 6 жыл бұрын
You could simplify this with 3 clocks, 2 tanks and a gas pump and shutoffs. Load one while it’s loading the other is purifying, then unload the first, purify the second while you reload the first. Sure it’s not absolutely efficient but it’s smaller, just as automated and in both cases and your limit on the system is the volume of gas you can pump in a cycle no matter the method you use.
@ashanks7731
@ashanks7731 6 жыл бұрын
@brothgar you should only need 2 shut off valves 1 germ sensor and 1 gas sensor to create a system that will clean all the gas you store in the system
@lordfaladar6261
@lordfaladar6261 6 жыл бұрын
if you know how long it takes to kill the slime lung in a full tank why not put it on a timer instead of a loop?
@johnydl
@johnydl 6 жыл бұрын
Because it's not quite so simple to know how much time. To kill 8 slime lung it takes 44 seconds, to clean 16 it takes 55 seconds, there is probably some theoretical maximum amount of germs and a number of seconds that covers it (1billion germs takes nearly 6 minutes) but then some of the time you might input 1000 germs and have completely clean gas not able to do anything cause it's waiting on a timer for 4 minutes.
@midorikami2537
@midorikami2537 6 жыл бұрын
I have had moderate success using a Clock Sensor, what I was doing is filling one tank during the first half of a cycle, then filling another tank during the second half of a cycle. I found that 3/4ths into the cycle, the first tank would be completely free of all germs. I then spent the last 1/4 of a cycle emptying the tank, I was only able to empty the tank about 80% in this amount of time though, but this setup only needs three clock sensors, three valves, and no logic elements.
@MrRiccars
@MrRiccars 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve found out this applies to the water tank too so I’m planning on making a treatment plant to sterilize water. Once I get some plastics
@bartoszbaranowski604
@bartoszbaranowski604 5 жыл бұрын
This will work as long as the superflow tank( above) has enough charge to fill loop below OVER capacity of pipes. If it does not, gas/liquid will cycle through pipes, not hitting tank - no cleanup. At the least you need either buffer gate on output valve from top tank, or manual switch to allow dupes to make system work/restart.
@3214uno
@3214uno 6 жыл бұрын
Would it somehow be better with the smaller pump?
@calvinsauer1029
@calvinsauer1029 6 жыл бұрын
We needed something like this by now
@backseatpolitician
@backseatpolitician 6 ай бұрын
This video is awesome. Just yesterday I tried to do this in my current playthrough but I'm still really new to the game so I was unsure of how to do it.
@MysteriousFireball13
@MysteriousFireball13 5 жыл бұрын
Great system and awesome explanation! Love it
@Gilhelmi
@Gilhelmi 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I love this game. It is as simple or complicated as you want it to be.
@kaiserslavaniaashur1623
@kaiserslavaniaashur1623 3 жыл бұрын
I had a setup using polluted water and the machine that cleans polluted oxygen and outputs clean oxygen. The proplems came when the duplicants went in and breathed it. Eventualy carbon build up inside and for some reason was considerd lighter than polluted oxygen itself so it couldn’t clean the polluted oxygen anymore. I even found small amounts of unbreathable oxygen?
@ransombot
@ransombot 6 жыл бұрын
Probably be cheaper with some of the more exotic components to just use a time of day sensor to dump a holding tank into the purification area after emptying the purification area into another holding tank.
@hansdampf640
@hansdampf640 6 жыл бұрын
with shutoff valves and timer device you would have all u need for a reliable disinfection,it takes 30W and is very easy to set up
@Symbine
@Symbine 6 жыл бұрын
what you need is a way to stop the reservoir from outputting until it reaches a certain capactiy. Is there no way to automatic the output so that it only happens when the tank is half full?
@nyobi4890
@nyobi4890 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't understand why you don't have waaaay more subscribers! You make great videos!
@MrGustavier
@MrGustavier 6 жыл бұрын
is it possible to empty bottled liquids in reservoirs ?
@squid_cake
@squid_cake 5 жыл бұрын
MrGustave1er no, but you can make a place where your duplicants will empty the water on the ground and you can have a liquid pump suck it up instantly to pipe it into a reservoir. Currently the only way to clean germy bottled water without piping it into a chlorine filled room in a reservoir is by building an ore scrubber and making duplicants put the water in as they walk by. Yes, somehow ore scrubbers can clean bottled liquids. Just know that each one only cleans up to 480,000 germs if I remember correctly. If you have REALLY dirty water from outhouses you'll have to wash it a few times in the same scrubber.
@lonnymoore2622
@lonnymoore2622 5 жыл бұрын
could chlorine gas work the the same way being pumped through the water pools in the ducting as well ?
@Hanmacx
@Hanmacx 6 жыл бұрын
Thought about using reservoir as cooling loop? You can use temperature sensor there too
@DogRozan
@DogRozan 6 жыл бұрын
can you use pufts to help the gas vent?
@stuartpratt3662
@stuartpratt3662 6 жыл бұрын
hey brothgar if you take a gas bridge into the bottom loop before the germ sensor then you have the one kg packets and restrict the flow (and just now I just thought that is dumb nevermind but if you can make this work then you are a god of duplicents)
@kustovas
@kustovas 5 жыл бұрын
Dude 2 valves one in one out and just time sensor...
@vincentzott6592
@vincentzott6592 5 жыл бұрын
you cant put a valve directly on an output of the tank, there needs to be at least one pipe between.That pipe will fill up with infected liquid right when it enters the tank and therefore wont be disinfected, not a perfect solution
@michaelsotomayor5001
@michaelsotomayor5001 4 жыл бұрын
I just thought of something.. using the automation on liquid gas reservoir and germ sensors.. you can essentially keep looping the contents between two tanks back and forward with a time buffer used off of the automation from the tanks. Then finally when the germ sensor reads clean on the first tank open the valve at the end of the second tank letting everything through. It's complicated and unnecessary. Just use a timer sensor leave it in chlorine for a half cycle and then use clean water.
@jesusango
@jesusango 6 жыл бұрын
And, all the system for 80g/s of oxygen (this geyser produce this average). Yeah, not very useful, but for clean sewage it is so much useful.
@AnotherSpaceCowBoy
@AnotherSpaceCowBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Only this ? damn...
@dicerson9976
@dicerson9976 6 жыл бұрын
You could easily make an automatic disinfection system with a staged setup. The first stage is initial storage, you throw all your polluted material into a "dirty" reservoir during the day. The second stage is a "Clean" reservoir in the Chlorine room (You could also put the dirty one in the Chlorine room as well, to start the work early and make it more likely that the clean reservoir ends up pumping out clean materials.) Also have a timer that records when "Evening" starts. Evening starts precisely a number of second before night starts equivalent to the duration of night. Here is the cycle. All Germy sources flow into your dirty Reservoir at all times. When Evening starts, the "Clean" Reservoir pumps the entirety of it's contents out to an accessible location (If your system is using such quantities of material that it is not clean by this point, then create a logic circuit that staggers this every other day and use more reservoirs). When night starts, the Clean reservoir stops pumping out, and the Dirty reservoir begins flowing into the clean one, stopping again in the morning. The net result of this cycle is that every evening, a "batch" of freshly cleaned material flows out, and a new "batch" is loaded into the cleaner. The two reservoirs are kept separate because otherwise you'd end up constantly adding more germs, and never end up with a 100% clean material to pump out. One is a sort of capacitor for the other.
@Shadow_of_Christ
@Shadow_of_Christ 6 жыл бұрын
You can also store multiple gases inside the tanks theoretically that will also clean gases inside them
@DarkZenith
@DarkZenith 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t you just make a long back and forth pipe in the chlorine room that can ensure that it hits negligible by the end of the pipe?
@Ilcka
@Ilcka 5 жыл бұрын
do you need a closed room for chlorine to work? or can i have an open pit of polluted water and have the gas sitting on top of it?
@CebuanaSlayer
@CebuanaSlayer 5 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to put those thing in the box room without digging the minerals around it?
@jRoy7
@jRoy7 5 жыл бұрын
Debug/dev mode, can do whatever you want.
@blipman17
@blipman17 6 жыл бұрын
Have you concidered the single tank setup with a valve for the de-germed pOx connected to the germ sensor and the pipe content sensor hooked to a memory cell , which is connected to the intake valve but also to a timer of let's say 30 seconds, which resets the memory cell?
@johnydl
@johnydl 6 жыл бұрын
the logic doesn't allow you to store the number of germs and do the math on that number the system is binary either it's more or less than X germs so you need to test the output to see if it still has any germs if it does still have germs well you can't output it you have to recirculate it to clean it some more. You could test less frequently but I'm not sure what'd be gained by doing that since germs would be sat in the pipe doubling instead of going back to the tank to be removed.
@blipman17
@blipman17 6 жыл бұрын
JohnyDL well, you would use the memory cell and timer for the input valve. The output valve would be connected straight to the sensor. No math needed
@johnydl
@johnydl 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean with your first post then, it sounded like you're testing the input for germs and trying to time it to stay in the tank until the germs are gone, but you don't know how many germs there are to know how long to set the timer and even if you did some germs would be output to the pipe before the valve to wait there and grow germs anyway, A single tank loop set up was installed at 14:37 but then the system jammed up. Or are you talking about how to build up that initial charge? in which case 150 seconds (I think) of the input being on might work but only if there's 150 tiles of backed up pipe on the input side, which may be possible or even likely in a real base.
@jRoy7
@jRoy7 5 жыл бұрын
Would chlorine gas around a water filter do anything?
@twong7165
@twong7165 6 жыл бұрын
use buffer gate to allow more gas flow in the system when the element sensor signal turn off
@glenntanner3
@glenntanner3 6 жыл бұрын
Might want to add a buffer to set signal; otherwise you run the risk of getting backed up since once the tank is clean, it doesn't seem to dump all the gas in one cycle; so perhaps if no gas is detected for 2 sec? Also if possible all tanks should be in the CL.
@CommanderQ
@CommanderQ 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like since the change rate for being in chlorine is -100%/cycle, it'd be easy to just have a time delay to activate a pump, and then a cycle later empty the tank. Add more tanks till you have enough volume/cycle.
@kaangundogdu
@kaangundogdu 4 жыл бұрын
Old but gold.
@nonamenumbrthree
@nonamenumbrthree 6 жыл бұрын
@ 21:07 couldn't you have just put a clock sensor (or something else) on the gas pump to restrict the flow?
@kustovas
@kustovas 6 жыл бұрын
what if just use timesensor and two tanks one is filling one is desinfrcted after some time change done
@PerfectDeath4
@PerfectDeath4 6 жыл бұрын
now you need to get those oxalite producing pufts, scoop it up, transport the solid oxilite to storage.
@Bunnyonabender
@Bunnyonabender 6 жыл бұрын
A buffer gate to delay the "charge" in the tank to keep it in the disinfection portion of the cycle longer?
@pancakeking78
@pancakeking78 6 жыл бұрын
Hey brothgar, can you send me the .sav file for your ultimate automatic challenge base? Thanks!
@roxannecote1461
@roxannecote1461 6 жыл бұрын
I'm only halfway the video but why not putting a weigh plate under the tank ? With the gas shutoff only being open if the tank is heavy enough aka full enough
@MeLoonn
@MeLoonn 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, even if its a bit more complicated than the one i use, a clock, shut off valves and 2 tanks that alternate every half cycle.
@unknowunknown9096
@unknowunknown9096 4 жыл бұрын
What is more toxic gas that use to kill people in ww1 or oxygen with impurities
@OneOfDisease
@OneOfDisease 6 жыл бұрын
Could you use the regolith to boil the poluted water? Two birds with 1 stone
@DannielKILL
@DannielKILL 6 жыл бұрын
At 21:12 instead of measuring charges, would be easier if you just put a buffer/filter gate on the line of the element sensor that is already built.
@0x0404
@0x0404 6 жыл бұрын
Does it work in pipes too. Just a long snake of pipes. Though they did say the stuff in the containers should be completely isolated. So I suspect the chlorine effect might get patched. Regarding bridges and whatnot. You can use a bridge to add a source into a loop without making the loop stop. That means once the loop is completely filled the source will stop and the loop keeps going.
@FaultyStreams
@FaultyStreams 6 жыл бұрын
Why not dump it in a room full of chlorine, detect it at the top then pump and filter it out?
@iamagreatape9576
@iamagreatape9576 6 жыл бұрын
heres an idea:you get to use sandbox mode. and you have to build a self sufficent colony with the world provived. which means all duplicants will survive in (basically) an infinite amount of time. the amount of duplicants supported is your score.
@Psychotic6
@Psychotic6 6 жыл бұрын
Could you get a little faster system if you set germ threshold to like 1000 germs and send it to room with deodorizers and then the "new" oxygen cleans the rest of germs?
@izaktumey4553
@izaktumey4553 6 жыл бұрын
It did all three it was educational entertaining and just plain cool
@seanpeacock4290
@seanpeacock4290 5 жыл бұрын
couldn't you use a setup where you have 2 tanks where each tank will only take input while the other is outputting and it will only output after being disinfected. I think that might be less complicated.
@totally_not_a_troll
@totally_not_a_troll 5 жыл бұрын
Still works? Sounds like a bug
Efficient Gas Filtering! Oxygen Not Included Fart Power 2
18:48
ССЫЛКА НА ИГРУ В КОММЕНТАХ #shorts
0:36
Паша Осадчий
Рет қаралды 8 МЛН
The Lost World: Living Room Edition
0:46
Daniel LaBelle
Рет қаралды 27 МЛН
Andro, ELMAN, TONI, MONA - Зари (Official Music Video)
2:50
RAAVA MUSIC
Рет қаралды 2 МЛН
Heard you like Shine Bug Reactors | Oxygen Not Included
19:49
Echo Ridge Gaming
Рет қаралды 92 М.
Shine Bugs = Unlimited Free Energy! Oxygen Not Included
22:45
Brothgar
Рет қаралды 200 М.
Turn Lumber Into Cold Oxygen! Oxygen Not Included
15:20
Brothgar
Рет қаралды 217 М.
Oxygen Not Included - HARDEST Difficulty #1 - It's HOT (Oasisse) [4k]
59:32
Oxygen Not Included: Beginners Tutorial, Tips, and Tricks!
17:14
MaxTheCatfish
Рет қаралды 353 М.
How Many Words Do You Need To Beat Scribblenauts?
37:58
Big Garf
Рет қаралды 1,5 МЛН
Practical Automation tutorial : Oxygen not included
24:03
Francis John
Рет қаралды 125 М.
An important ONI filter, in 5 minutes.
5:15
Tony Advanced
Рет қаралды 180 М.
Oxygen Not Included - Tutorial Bites - Cooling
14:46
GCFungus
Рет қаралды 357 М.