How Good Will Season 2 Dungeons Be?

[@styled322]

the first time i witnessed the darkness mechanic within darkflame in heroic mode back at the start of the expansion, i immediately thought that this was going to be a nightmare in m+. they need to fix it

[@ViriuZ7]

It's the least fun i have had in wow

[@charred6683]

What's nightmarish about it? Just follow the cart and kill shit while someone grabs candle. There's nothing to it, stop trying to look at it like a puzzle to solve, it's just a pack on track there's no cheating around it. We've seen WAY WORSE in M+ before, people are overreacting big time.

[@Thrasherbear]

*remove it

[@EternalJunim]

You and 99% of ppl.

[@kacey69]

@@charred6683it’s all fun and games until the trash hidden in the dark starts one shotting candle-fetchers and there’s nothing you can do about it

[@sodasodahero]

At the very very least, they'd need to add a clear border to the light in Darkflame Cleft, so you can actually reasonably gauge whether you're in or out of it.

[@Septemberl4d]

Then double the range of it. We all know this will become a healer job or lowest dps job for any key group with a brain or high ego. So either they need to not take much damage so healer can do it, or give wiggle room for people to be able to actually output damage. The mechanic would be bad enough if you didn't have to fill the light gauge up. But with that added on top of it, it makes it a terrible designed mechanic since the cart keeps moving even if you don't want it to, and the only way to stop it moving is to let the light run out.. It certainly will be a Melee DPS focused dungeon since most range can't move and dps.

[@clynx9709]

Presenting the squirrel tech as something positive is definitely a priest take

[@AutomaticJak]

Course :)

[@SmugHomura]

Big tip for Darkflame cleft that you really NEED to know: you can just pick up and hold a candle for 20 seconds. You become a source of light. Once it's almost gone deliver it to the cart for max effect. A tank can just grab a candle and run around with no debuff. The cart is not the only way!

[@Dodanos1]

Darkness mechanic will be total hell or totaly trivial after people optimize it in some way, one of the two, nothing in between

[@AutomaticJak]

100%

[@TheRw_WoW]

Yeah, Dabnel was chatting about this in his interview with Quazii to

[@mimcduffee86]

It will probably be similar to how it done in heroic. Pull mob to cart then kill it, rather than just standing out there in the darkness and letting yourself die.

[@sharkstaint1373]

cleft can be fixed with one simple thing , increase the candle light radius by 100% , the small little area you need to be stack at is crazy to me , blizzard tend to forget that there is puging in the game , where coordination is very rare to non existent.

[@AutomaticJak]

100%

[@TheOaxOaxOax]

its still doesnt fix you will pull mobs that will prolly one shot you and yo ucant do nothing about it.

[@MrJawsheewah]

would love if the consecrate on the ground in priory had an outer circle

[@FoliumSakura]

I would also love it if it wasn't casted every 5 seconds by so many mobs

[@kristoffer3000]

@@FoliumSakura Loved tanking it during leveling where you just couldn't stand still with the mobs at all unless you wanted to stand in the bad. Terrible design

[@Septemberl4d]

@@kristoffer3000 It really ruins tanks like pally and DK though. Since they need their circle (DnD and Conc) to tank since its one of their better DR's. So the movement due to how much they drop conc down really impacts both the melee DPS and those two tanks heavily. Meaning you will be looking for one of the other 3 tanks over those two tanks plus reducing how many melee dps you bring to this dungeon unless you hate your healer.

[@kristoffer3000]

@@Septemberl4d yeah, punishing tanks because they are badly designed lol

[@phaton89]

I think the hardest and best dungeon is going to be Priory, it's well designed overall and will have some great routing options, even if it's a bit rough on melee. Darkflame and Theatre of Pain on the other hand... Those are going to be rough. I have a very big concern that those are going to be dead keys if there isn't MAJOR tuning inbound for them. I think that this pool feels a little weak in terms of what they could have done, but I'm hoping they surprise us and put out some banger tuning.

[@ultikfa8971]

Darkflame Cleft will be like Siege of Boralus or Necrotic Wake in the pug world. Tanks and Healers won't queue for it, because they have free choice and therefore will choose the more pleasant dungeons. Solo dps players who receive a Darkflame Cleft key will be screwed for the week, waiting for hours for tanks and healers to apply for their key.

[@punchinello6537]

I love sob and NW as a tank, maybe im weird i guess but those dungeons are pretty easy, i HATE CoT and Grim.

[@Robin...222]

Siege and necrotic very easy. CoT horrible

[@Robin...222]

​@@punchinello6537 exactly

[@RPGeek]

Siege is so piss ez lol

[@jackcolumbine8202]

@@punchinello6537I tank only grim and stone vault 🤣

[@Millennium2696]

Workshop being in the dungeon rotation for the 3th time should tell you everything about how much effort they're putting into season 2

[@Paulie81]

Cinderbrew Meadery best music in game :)

[@simoncasson1526]

That cart area is going to be absolute hell im dreading it already

[@jamesjohnsoniii8068]

my Thoughts: Workshop: Didn't play SL S4 and did Workshop once or twice in BFA....dont even remember Brawlhala boss but the rest of it I mostly liked (except the bit with the catwalk after Dog) Motherlode: Did it once in BFA, dont recall anything about it, kinda excited to try it Floodgate: TBD Theatre: Possibly my fave Shadowlands dungeon so I am excited to do it again Priory: I like this dungeon a lot from my Normal/Heroic runs....except Consecration Cinderbrew: They need to nerf the AoE slow Rookery: Cool AF, though I think we will need to clear almost all the trash in the first boss room since the Beam attack seems kinda random on where it starts and how it rorates Darkflame: How high do I need to time the other keys for KSM/KSH to never step foot in here?

[@madhudson1]

Forgot about the death/affix skips in motherload. I can see them removing the squirrel MC tech too

[@Azaleane_]

Hey Jak, on the top of my "worries" list is without a doubt Darkflame Cleft. As soon as I saw this dungeon I feared the season it would enter Mythic+. I hope Blizzard does some smart tuning to it to where it doesn't feel bad. On the positive side, I'm excited to return to Theater of Pain and Motherlode! Although I started my WoW journeyh mid-way BFA so that might just be my early experiences that were really good. I indeed think that Priory will be incredibly fun!! Looking forward to run that one. Now that I think of it, Hallowfall wasn't only great as a zone, but also with the dungeons it provides! :D I hope that M+ feels a bit better again next season because overall I haven't been... enjoying Mythic+ as much personally (PUG Healing)

[@Hdefte]

Darkflame Cleft for sure....that light mechanic is just a nightmare to deal with

[@ondrejmuller1089]

Regarding Meadery. I remember my fps were considerably lower in that place. Hope that will improve as well. Its insane how demanding that game is high end pcs

[@AutomaticJak]

Wow in general feels so poorly optimized :/

[@khat_diveprivate2518]

It’s not demanding - it is badly optimized. Look at high end PCs, they struggle the same as lower end PCs.

[@bjhiss27]

I've disliked all of the "darkness" dungeons, it's just one of those mechanics that isn't fun.

[@dr.zoidberg8666]

& the way Darkflame Cleft does it with the cart just feels so tedious. It's a neat idea conceptually, but the worst dungeon design we've had in a while imo.

[@sanji2158]

it works in a scenario setting but i am just getting that portal and never queing into that ever again if they dont do something about it

[@deseanroot75]

They need to 1. Increase the brightness range at all levels for the candle and 2. Decrese how fast it drains passively. Also they need to make the player invisble when in the darkness so monsters cant hit them

[@Aggrofool]

OMG Slootbag and JFunk... that takes me back

[@khat_diveprivate2518]

Knowing now 7/8 dungeons, what would be your educated guess which healer is best considering ONLY mechs, cc m/dispells? Leave power out of it.

[@RichardVerheulDrums]

Cart could have check points with beacons along the way you have to lit. So you have a couple of beacon fights instead of running along with the cart.

[@oKirin-]

What's that weak aura pack you're running during the Motherlode segment of the video?

[@Raskel8274]

as MW healer, super excited for priory and meadery

[@AutomaticJak]

That sith lightning going to go wild in there

[@yukashi5410]

So hyped to dust off my holy priest again for keys! It's looking good atm :D

[@norfy]

Those Cinderbrew bazooka goblins are going to be a nightmare

[@MattG5050]

I think its fair to say blizzard has already shown us they dont give a shit about tuning dungeons properly.

[@UhudOkcusu.]

I remember. Theater of Pain final boss was so sick

[@jmurphen]

What is the dispel profile for these dungeons?

[@Keyourasa]

My only real hope is them giving disc priest something more to do. I feel like 90% of our healing comes from just void blast and pet. Outside of externals i really feel like we have 3 buttons which is insane to me

[@Zummorr]

I really hope Blizzard adds some clear graphical lines to Priory's consecrates and Dark Flame Cleft's Darkness. the floor damage is really obscene from the consecrates and you need to move them a ton, so I hope we get some better indicator graphics. And the darkness debuff causes you to do 0 throughput. If you are a presevoker and you are casting a big spiritbloomto heal your party...the cart could move out from under you and it would delete all the healing entirely. If you are a DK tank and you happen to Death Strike the milisecond that darkness effects you, you get 0 healing and die. We've had plenty of moving circles with silence or massive damage penalties. but this one is really small, moving and has unclear edges. I would expect some significant changes to go out on the old dungeons though. My biggest fear tbh. is that they will add back in the Hard Mode bomb disarming mechanic into last boss of Workshop. making is ruinous for PUGs. Atleast those tornado boys in Theater of Pain will be happy.

[@unholyXromance]

the mine cart in Darkflame is going to be a pug killer, for sure

[@Excaliber158]

The cart sequence is going to be ez. Just use candles. You can literally light it with candles you purchase in Ringing Deeps. You can also use Flare from a hunter

[@LeeMes1]

i cried a bit at 8:58 when you used shining force to knock the mob back into the pack.

[@AutomaticJak]

Me too :(

[@AlexanderForsman]

So excited to heal ToP again. Easily the best dungeon from Shadowlands

[@onkek]

Yeah a 5 boss dungeon with perma tyrannical is soooooo fun.

[@Byhythloh]

@@onkek Just get good.

[@AlexanderForsman]

@@onkek You sound sarcastic, but in Shadowlands there were literally nothing to heal. DPS was the only real factor when it came to the healer meta. Tyranical just ment longer of the fun parts of the dungeon and what already 1-shot people, just did so a little better and didn't matter to the healer. ToP had 5 very different bosses that you learn and very little of the "big pull random 1-shot" BS that healers hated.

[@VDHmain]

The best turd in a toilet isn't a diamond. ToP was terrible, like the majority of SL dungeons. 5 bosses is always aweful in M+.

[@Laptican]

@@VDHmain No, it's not always awful in Mythic+. People just made ToP unnecessary hard because they didn't know how to play the dungeon.

[@gaborvandor3662]

Hi Jak, do you know what type of Dispell will be requred? best? Like for example this season without curse dispell GB(and ST) was pain, but disease was almost not existent. Do you have any info on this? Maybe any heave bleed ? so evoker and pally can shine? Dunno where to find info on this so any insight is much appreciated. In pugs dps is not really using their dispel so want to be self sufficient as a heal.

[@AutomaticJak]

Great question! Rookery seems like the main one with some curse dot effects, don’t remember if dark flame has curses but I think it does. Some mediocre diseases in theater and I think that’s it tbh

[@Naturalhigh8]

healers have only been able to do so much all season lol. good video as always!!!

[@AutomaticJak]

You bet!

[@Mixin88]

we have in game over 100 dungeons and we getting again Mechagon (about this we can bit say is still theme) but again Shadowland. They should really increased numbers of dungeons and use 1 from each expension

[@cs.esmaeili]

is shaman good for next dungeons ?

[@zackimus]

They should just put out a survey every month and let the community choose the dungeon pool.

[@jalengill9982]

I wonder if the darkflame cleft minecart escort was inspired by the "hunger in the dark" dungeon in vermintide. That dungeon sucked in vermintide too

[@naydenkovachev3312]

Blizz has to scratch TOP while there's still time. Sometimes I wonder why they let the HR team pick the seasonal dungeon rotation.

[@That_kind_of_orc]

I'm legitimately interested in those dungeons because tww season 1 is so hellishly hard compared to past m+ experience

[@Luxumbra69]

No shot the squirrel tech stays for ANOTHER season is there? Hope not.

[@maartenneppelenbroek]

The area up to the fourth boss in Motherlode isn't that bad to pull, it's just not as efficient as the start of the dungeon.

[@keleko55]

For Darkflame, the mine cart escort tip: Have one ranged take the far candle and your tank get the close one. The ranged can hold that candle for 13s and do full DPS at any range while he has a candle. Mobs don't have to be in the candle light. He can drop it off 1-2s before it expires then go grab another and repeat.

[@SuperXaxa123]

I like healing that is tied to mechanics (juggling bombs/debuffs/manual soaks/life-links/tanking mechanics so it does reduce group damage etc.) and then healing becomes meaningful. Just saying "we need more rot damage bosses" is a bit unspecific. Other then that I don't wanna play priest next season. Diseases in ToP, mind control in workshop .... I'm scared that priest becomes mandatory again in high keys to run priest.

[@TopicxWoW]

I think overall, season 2 dungeons are a step up from season 1. Specifically, the 4 TWW dungeons are better. Theatre of Pain and Workshop won't be nearly as bad as people remember since we don't have affixes like Quaking, Sanguine, Bolstering, etc. If they fix Darkflame Cleft darkness area, I think we are in for a stellar season.

[@beckmaxime700]

War tank will be good to tank this dungeon? Lots of magic damage no?

[@Craftee6]

Isn't magic damage literally one thing that prot warrior is shit against?

[@Tyler-g9m1t]

IMO they need to do a better job designing healer talents so that we can customize our builds for the challenges of each dungeon. Too much of one build to rule them all. And too much of a dungeon being free for one spec and a nightmare for another spec. Every spec should have more effective ways to talent into or out of rot, burst, ST, group, preventive (DR/shields), and DPS. And if they insist on these bolts one shotting people, they should make it more of a gameplay event like when a cleaver is thrown in NW. Make them not interruptible and make them clearly telegraphed so the target can defensive it or someone else can toss them an external. The whole interrupt / stun facet of the game needs an overhaul. In Wildstar, mobs had interrupt armor, meaning you might need 5 interrupts on one mob to stop its priority cast. And you could talent into having more interrupts (at the cost of throughput). So it was more of a distinct event, not some constant chaotic thing.

[@austinrotell5153]

Shaman gonna be good again for kicks

[@PapaSnurp]

Just do a blackout when we enter the area and have us dumped out of the cart. They cannot allow the dungeon to function as is in Season 2

[@livvw]

Honestly my biggest hope is they fix stops in m+, its part of why this season was so miserable and unfriendly to pugs. I'd also like to see some scaling changes. I'm expecting darkflame cleft to receive changes to work better in m+ and priory is probably going to be the best dungeon of the season unless they knock it out of the park with operation floodgate.

[@hameed]

Blizz keeps overestimating the player base. They 100% need to revert those stops. It’s miserable in most pugs

[@Inverter222]

Each soccer ball on Motherlode will Explode for group wide damage and need a major healing cooldown. Cuz why not.

[@peijrum]

ToP is gonna be a pug killer period

[@whitezor]

i really hope you are gonna be immune to dmg while holding a candle... but on a timer, so it cannot be abused

[@jampots8]

I assume people will have to play around just holding the candles rather then popping them straight into the cart in darkflame. IIRC you still can do full damage/healing whilst you're holding the lil' one No idea how it will actually pan out though

[@charred6683]

Why? Just follow the cart.

[@jampots8]

@@charred6683 So you can pull more mobs and actually do damage/healing whilst doing so, letting everything reach the cart slows you down. So if you're looking to do it faster then that should help

[@Keleva]

Priory consecrate better get a serious visual change, it's vague enough on its own without all the player paladin consecrates in the way

[@serge2cool]

I get the feeling they'll probably nerf the MC tech in Workshop. If it doesn't get much to make it speedier/more fun/less aids with fights like last boss or last trash gauntlet, it could very well be C-Tier only.

[@janue5390]

Darkflame and cinderbrew are my most hated dungeons in all expansions so far

[@chancejones7320]

Priory is harder on hero than some m+ dungeons rn just bc of how much dmg the consecration does. I can imagine it’s gonna one shot people on m+ lol.

[@Jason_g_kennedy]

Dark flame cleft isn't too hard on a pally tank grabbing the candles.

[@thatonedudea]

I just wish they would remake old dungeons as M+

[@shoe2929]

the dungeons themselves are gonna be fine. its whether or not the state of m+ gets repaired. im betting on no. s2 will be bad.

[@swishjournalisten]

I think it's weird to represent all the healers in the game and get so excited about a instance that would obviously put the priest class and only the priest class way ahead of the other healers.

[@Chelbells]

Im just convinced they dont want healers to keep playing for a second season

[@Dreadly]

Darkflame Cleft is going to be so terrible for my Outlaw. :( I need to be hitting things all the time in order for me to compete with the meta.

[@michellewheatley5180]

can't imagine disagreeing with a content creator more than i do jak's feelings on workshop the dog boss is fun? the brawlhalla is fun? absolutely can't imagine the third boss every single week its gonna be tyrannical

[@kenlonwells2219]

Honestly you don’t feel tyran or fort at all anymore. Now that every meaningful key has them they don’t “have” them anymore since blizzard is able to tune the bosses in a way that assumes everything is already tyran. I see it as

[@MrKamex]

Meadery is so many goddamn small enemies that will eat my shadow crash ;_;

[@kenlonwells2219]

I’ve said this in a few comment sections. But don’t concern or worry about the candle section of dark flame unless it’s not changed by like 3 days out from m+ S2 release. Say what you will about blizzard, but they are people with access to the internet. They know the sentiment. They also knew the sentiment around BH and they gave it the m+ rework treatment and it was largely a very good dungeon. DFC has a chance to be really good, don’t doom so much and stress yourselves out. Maybe I’m wrong but I’m not making myself miserable thinking about it

[@AutomaticJak]

Yeah of course it’s not worth being miserable abt. This is just to add to the overall sentiment to make sure that they hear it loud n clear

[@artug92]

I agree but the problem with BH was that the change was too late... if they knew the player's sentiments and the state that dungeon was in before release... why did they release it in that condition is the problem.

[@Impuracle]

Think I'll wait a few weeks for Blizzard to hotfix this nightmarish dungeon pool..

[@popojaga7312]

I dont know man, cinderbrew being overhyped as big pull dungeon, it is on hc/m0 kinda... but in m+ there is alot of debuff and shit going on that will probably limit it, far from AA

[@popojaga7312]

To counter myself, it probably will be big pulls compared to modern dungeons lately, designed by blizz in a way, where you can clearly feel how big they want you to pull and play

[@MrVaeron]

@@popojaga7312 The problem is, that this dungeon has LOTS of stuff that hits hard and needs either hard stops or is not even stopable at all. So i doubt that Pugs will be doing big pulls. I already wipe on Heroic (having 631...), if people decide to pull the first room or whole wings. Cause no matter the gear, you cant do shit if you are stunned or slowed and stand in shit yourself. I did a lot of Heroics at Launch, Priory and Meadery felt the worst of all of them in terms of tuning for Trash and Bosses, besides of that Darkness boss.

[@davidgreenberg8456]

Darkflame Cleft: the darkness mechanic is miserable. I just don't find these types of cheesy mechanics to be fun at all. It could be a decent dungeon if they get rid of or severely nerf the darkness mechanic. Cinderbrew Meadery: too many massive slows and I think the boss with adds that give him a shield will be awful in pugs. Routing seems like it will be chill. Rookery: should be great. Priory: should be great other than too many casters. Hard to predict because we only ran it on heroic which was not threatening. Theater of Pain: horrible dungeon other than the theme Mechagon Workshop: never did that part of the megadungeon but it seems like it could be fun. Motherlode: good dungeon overall, some minor changes to some bosses and trash would help a lot Floodgate: TBD I did not find TWW S1 to be very fun, so I am on the fence as to whether I will resub for S2. I can see Darkflame, Cinderbrew, and Theater all being hard avoid dungeons, which for me would be a hard pass for the season.

[@Gemaco1397]

Honestly, the main thing I'm looking forward to is my first mythic vault to give me bursting lightshard...

[@Gemaco1397]

Don't get me wrong, it's a very fun trinket, really enjoyed it when leveling my healers, so part of me actually wants it for lower content

[@AutomaticJak]

Yeaaaa I feel that!

[@jarlhenrik]

Why are they giving us Theater of Pain for s2 when we already had a Maldraxxus themed dungeon this season in Necrotic Wake? -.- Couldn’t they have given us the Revendreth dungeons instead? I know Sanguine Depths wasn’t the greatest dungeon, but Halls of Atonement is fine :)

[@supergaga1712]

Dark flame Cleft will be the most hated dungeon in the history of m+ if they don’t do anything. And when they do, it’s going to be the easiest shit ever. Great idea in theory, terrible idea with the current meta of m+.

[@iaxdy9822]

Sceptical, but I'll wait and see. If it turns out good, I'll play. If it turns out bad, I'll stay on poe2.

[@KingMidas-my5rb]

I can tell you right now Dark flame cleft and priory are gonna be SO annoying, the darkness mechanics in the last part of the dungeon and final boss for cleft and the burning ground everywhere on Priory will be rough, though Priority can be easier to skill through, the darkness just feels bad

[@davidcisneros2810]

seeing affixes back then in BFA, there were so much more fun than TWW affixes, just orbs and 15 secs penalti? I hope blizzard bring back affixes like in the old days

[@athadria_gaming]

Seeing all these casters in Priory who will not run in the pack or get chainpulled and standing around spread out, this looks like my hate key as Shadow Priest

[@sanagos9350]

Just 2.5k score then only ToP for Weekly 🎉

[@ZondaRbg]

That was not so fast dung to be for weekly :D

[@FumeszTV]

Bringing back workshop again is making me so depressed. Same way I didn't like NW and Mists being back after going hard for 3 seasons in Shadowlands

[@Bolinipop]

Its gonna be so much fun killing every single mob in Motherlode after blizzard changes the mobcount % in there /s

[@VallentinProductions]

If Blizzard really cares about feedback, they just replace it with a legion/wod dungeon and everyones happy. No reason to put a dungeon in the m+ pool that literally no one wants

[@bbbusted91]

i am so glad i have to write my masters degree in season two. i would hate to play this dungeons.

[@BlastHeart96]

I just know I’m going to viciously despise Darkflame Cleft after a while. I already really disliked it in heroic. It’s probably the strongest I’ve disliked a dungeon in a while.

[@davidjensen2999]

Short answer is: No. Will be a shit season

[@nicowins]

Oh no theater of pain again… that is the worst dungeon ever !

[@IanStrain23328]

I think Rogues are finally gonna get to make use of a talent we have. 3 MIN SHROUD IN MOTHERLODE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@kingtut8367]

I wish they would swap workshop with gambit.

[@FeralKobold]

I really enjoyed the darkness mechanic in delves, I thought it was cool and theyre honestly my favorite flavor of delve. But whenever I do darkflame the only thing I can think about is how awful it's going to be in keys lol. I REALLY hope they take a hard look at it but I'm not holding my breath and I suspect itll be a problem the community will have to solve on our own.

[@alir3za349]

dose any one know when season 2 tww will release ?

[@Septemberl4d]

Yeah even with 4 okay dungeons this season is already looking cooked if you ask me. This season already had 2 dungeons which were a pain in the butt, certainly as a healer with Ara Kara and City of Threads. These upcoming ones seem incredibly annoying and overly mechanic based in the trash yet again which is also another red X mark for these dungeons. Anything added to a dungeons complexity adds more reasons people can give to brick a key by leaving and that just again sounds ultra painful. This might be the first season since season 3 SL i just don't heal or do any dungeons for an entire season. I might just raid log next season with the horrible dungeons and horrible new looting system for dungeons.

[@Catxukluth]

Workshop is a really cool dungeon but dear god please cut the first phase of the last boss. The fight got to the 6-7 minute mark at high keys last time it was in m+. Tyran has been nerfed since then but still, a 4-5 minute fight on a weekly key is criminal.

[@nmark93]

Most terrifying is healing +10 with holy priest..

[@Julmaa87]

Depends on your gear.

[@Luxumbra69]

If we follow TWW trends, we will actually need all of the skipped count from bfa in Motherlode. Not looking forward to pulling all the Mastermind's.

[@marcussully1854]

My takeaway from video. I miss awakened

[@thats_unrealistic]

Good luck killing the banner as AUG when your other two DPS are down stairs fighting.

[@AutomaticJak]

Facts

[@RpGirlRizo]

The S2 dungeon set really makes me think I will be raiding only. DFC, Mechagon workshop, Motherlode and Theater of Pain. No thanks. I don't want to have to deal with those shit shows again.

[@ammertos1517]

why are you hoping for damage?

[@khmarabroona]

so he can heal it :)