Automating the small stuff, it's all small stuff : Oxygen not included ep3

[@Jarnsmidr]

Echo Ridge: carefully insulates his bedrooms to keep everything cool FJ: just dumps METAL REFINERY wastewater back into the environment

[@r3dp9]

I mean, it's not the drinking water. I think?

[@Alaratt]

They certainly each have their own style lol

[@sybrwookie]

FJ is right in this case. There's PLENTY of cooling short-term, and long-term, the few things you care to keep cold, you can actively cool after warming the rest of the place up to the point where dupes don't need to be warmed, heaters don't need to run, and water can exist.

[@Jarnsmidr]

@Alaratt yeah, totally agree. It wouldn't be an FJ video if he didn't do something like that.

[@UrsusTheDruid]

Echo tries to put out dumpster fires. FJ will use the heat from the dumpster fire to generate more energy for his over the top systems. Love them both

[@flamecide]

There's a relative temperature mode in the temperature overlay that provides a more reasonable perspective to your surroundings rather than a wall of blue if you didn't know

[@Squirrelthing]

And if you set relative temperature in the overlay to absolute zero, it becomes really easy to see all the neutronium on the map, so it's easier to find vents.

[@rl53]

FJ repeats what every mining CEO thinks " As long as I get Iron I don't care about the natural environment " 🤣

[@callum.dokkodo]

I'm a simple man. I see FJ video. I click FJ video

[@tobycat5799]

Apes together strong. I mean.. when people leader is francis, they game breaking..

[@gaydonaldtrump]

Classic francis john viewer. No brain included

[@Grazui]

Hardest part is remembering to like his video before I start watching 😅

[@vexxer209]

Forgot how enjoyable it is seeing dupes trying the hardest to off themselves.

[@ketsuekikumori9145]

The warm coat doesn't stop them from getting the chilly effect but increases their cold tolerance similar to rimworld, except that it's based on conduction. So if it the environment is cold enough, they'll still get the effect. I haven't tested this but i've noticed this most often with dupes running through liquids that are -30c, when the same temp in only gas doesn't affect them. Otherwise they'll get it in a -50c gaseous environment. Of course this only applies to dupes that aren't immune to the effect.

[@gradious7497]

Everything Francis does is now part of the Rimworld Universe. When we get that scone photo 16:00 I will think about how horrible it would be to eat it without a table.

[@Zaughon]

"What's the maximum amount of stupidity we can cram into the day?" Dammit Francis, i watch your videos to NOT think about work :P Btw, if you find the temperature overlay useless because everything is blue, you can enable "Relative temperature" in the top right, and drag the slider. I set mine to -25C and that suddenly gave a much better representation of temperature ranges. I had no mods active when i noticed this, so it's part of the game now.

[@shashe42]

Hey there, I was just reading the patch notes and I found this: "Hot Tub and Sauna now provide 3 cycles of Frost Resistance. Spicy Tofu and Curried Beans now provide 1 cycle of Frost Resistant: Spicy Diet effect."

[@hillolbarman]

Petition for FJ to save the wood pile!

[@telioty]

Move everything to the right!

[@telioty]

Petition for FJ to save the wood pile! Move everything to the right!

[@wesb5899]

I like to have a filter/buffer gate on element sensors like you have for the CO2. this prevents the automation from flickering on/off and ensures that the level you want is achieved to a sufficient level and it also saves clock cycles when you have a lot of similar sensor setups.

[@NOLESFAN32]

You could just hear the blame and disappointment in his voice when Francis John called Hans-Martin Dieffenbache out for peeing in the freezer. Hilarious mate!!

[@JBlochNielsen]

I think specialized containers like the woodpile for more materials would be cool. I could see one for coal, metals of various kinds, all kinds of stuff.

[@geeksdo1tbetter]

+

[@ThePiachu]

As I understand, the warm coats protect dupes from being cold but only up to a point. Get them really cold and it won't work, same with getting them wet / soggy feet - that also makes them cold. Cinnabar Ore is fairly abundant (at least on the Frosty Spaced Out asteroid) and is only used for Mercury which overall isn't that much of a needed material. So don't feel bad for using the ore. There is also a neat new decor item - a 1x1 wood carving. Might be a good thing to bedazzle the base with! As for oxylite into oxygen room, you could just put the oxylite on a rotating rail segment that gets topped up whenever the oxylite disappears!

[@Danbearpig]

I wish I had a reason to use Francis John exclaiming "Oh! Hydrogen!" as a sound alert, that was hilarious!

[@justinw.anisman6154]

I cannot overstate how much better my week is now that FJ is playing ONI again.

[@JB-yr6qt]

When dupes start trapping themselves with a build or dig, instead of cancelling the order, just click the dupe and then use the Move To command to send them somewhere safer. They'll stop what they're doing, move, then go back to doing it.

[@__5017]

40:26 domesticated alveo vera actually use less co2 per oxylite because it works loke dasha salt vines which take chlorine to make salt

[@commonsense-og1gz]

you can use liquid mercury or nectar for liquid locks if you want to build a fertilizer plant. nectar has the same thermal capacity of water, so it can be used as a subzero substitute for polluted water in cooling systems.

[@carciller]

Idea to fix Oxylite room. I really like the entire oxylite setup and the concept of running the base oxygen from those plants! 1. Run a long conveyer rail inside the oxylite room. that should help oxylite of gassing keeping a good pressure. 2. Remove the shut off shute outside of the room. as oxilyte only of gasses while pressure is under 1800 we should always have a rail full of oxylite 3. multiple weight sensors and dropoffs like the one you have now. with same setup. so 1 weight controles 1 dropoff. I believe that the weight will detect when the oxylite vaporizes completely and then the system should add new oxylite. This should have the benefit of giving 4 different backup lumps of oxylite. As always thanks for the great video!

[@MellowMaliki]

Rails inside the room had been my first thought. But skip the weight plates entirely, just a pressure sensor and keep the room at 2k

[@Shehias]

I think you're missing the point of this game mode, it's to work around and leverage chill instead of destroying it :( RIP ice biome 2024 Love the series regardless, can't wait to see what ridiculous stuff you come up with later!

[@darthbader6506]

I've really missed you playing this game, time I went hunting for some of your previous ONI videos again

[@adhender82]

"I want to automate everything", leaves in outhouses instead of upgrading the toilets and sink 😂 your the best FJ

[@jacob6885]

So true. He cited the reason being freezing water. But the dirt is needed for science and emptying the outhouse takes forever.

[@MarcCastellsBallesta]

Maybe next episode he starts insulating stuff so he can keep liquids liquid.

@@MarcCastellsBallesta I wonder if he could just use very small packet sizes instead?

[@MellowMaliki]

with how infrequently they are used, the blobs will bunch up somewhere. Probably at the input port. I'm currently dealing with busted insulated pipes going into my CO2 scrubber.

[@samir5740]

For some reason, i always remember to forget that the cooking station DOES NOT count as industrial machinery, and can be placed INSIDE the mass hall/great hall, for efficiency, unless you want to make a kitchen for the use of the spice grinder. As does FJ. We are muppets.

[@philip4534]

Looks like ice makes have been buffed. Now they can delete a lot more heat. And provide ice for your oxygen production. Might be worth looking into

[@sayanmayt]

we wont hire a new duplikant in the new future also 5 sec later this one would be a good mechatronicer XD

[@hellvor7015]

Great way to end a monday

[@philbo_bagginz]

This has been a lot of fun to watch. Thanks for sharing!

[@joshlawson3255]

Oxylite scones sound like they would taste good

[@missb1062]

I appreciate you playing around with the new stuff. In my last base I didnt find water till cycle 600 +. It was 2 salt water gysters one top right and one bottom left lol. It was a big map.

[@EthanMcPhoenix]

You can freeze water with the carbon dioxide vent !

[@salemprompthous3820]

10:40 this only applies if the food is in an atmosphere. If it's stored in vacuum, the refigerated/deep frozen depends on the food's temperature. (FJ did a showcase on this in a previous series, cooling down metal tiles to about -60°C or so, run the food through and dropped off in a vacuum. I'm still using this in my rockets, so hasn't been changed with the Frosty Update)

[@salemprompthous3820]

With a net positive on wood, maybe it's time to decor bomb the living area? Wood Tiles; a nice decor boon across 3 tiles (unlike regular tiles that only spreads it's decor one tile). With all the heat being generated, i'd say it's better to get ahead of packed snow tiles melting (Personally learned this the hard way, having 3 dupes trapped after 7 tiles just vanished, and the game never telling me until someone (all three of them) made a mess)

[@nazgu1]

Next episode: the pee bottle in the kitchen makes all food go bad, calories drop to zero, one bammoth gets emergency evolved :)

[@wolfen210959]

I can't believe you're not making Soufflees, they only take raw egg and 2 sleet wheat grain, and give the same morale bonus as BBQ. I'm not even harvesting the wild sleet wheat, but somehow I have over 300 cycles worth of it in the freezer, I've completely stopped the spikeapple farming and cooking as I have tons of the stuff now (cycle 160ish 16 dupes). On a side note, the Bammoth need a serious re-balance, I can't keep half of them fed, even with a stable full of squash, and harvesting every wild squash on the map, it's gotten so bad that I'm seriously considering ranching the seals for more ethanol, to grow more squash. I do, however, have reed fiber for days. lol On a side note, this dlc introduces an interesting mechanic, keeping your base cold enough to freeze the food, and grow crops, as even the basic toilets and wash basins begin spreading enough heat that snow tiles melt, sigh. I'm gonna steal your automation loops though, as I generally only use automation in my ranches, to collect eggs and what-not.

[@nazgu1]

>8:10 Slickster eggs on Ceres? Very funny, Klei 😂

[@Flamerule13th]

Pips planting into entombed pot works with alveovera, eliminating the need for ice and growing at domestic rate. I never built any oxygen production or carbon scrubbing in 500 cycles and have a surplus of 300 tons of oxylite. Also works with bonbon trees, for free nectar or wood; although bonbons in flower pots can't feed seals and can't remove entombment of the pot on their own.

[@Branwhin]

Just started watching. CO2! All the CO2. I mean, really good thing to have, but yeah. I was wondering what the everlasting heck was causing all that.

[@nait5340]

someone forgot to remove the bottled pee from the food storage area.. ;) the usage of the new pieces is very much apprechiated, but i say it again: ethanol distillers seem like the natural solution to build a bridge between foxes, beefalos and your oxygen production. no need for that co2 vent i'd think. fertilizer setups aren't amazing but at least they don't require dupe interactions and can therefore be walled in. it's kinda similar to SPOM setups, just way less efficient.

[@pedrolmlkzk]

Also solves the dirt problemneatly

[@amateurpwn4182]

Ohhhhhh Ceres. I was wondering why a guy who makes awesome videos didn't know what a series was

[@mr.unforgettable]

"As long as I get my Iron ore, I don't care about the environment." - Francis John 2024

[@Tamizushi]

For your evolution chamber, how about a conveyor receptacle? Floxes produce more kcals per cycle as Omelette (467kcal/cycle) than BBQ(333kcal/cycle) or even Pemmican(433kcal/cycle). If you simply let unused eggs in a conveyor receptacle, they will automatically crack after 10 cycles (which is quicker than the 20 cycles they need to hatch) and all you need to do at this point is cook the raw egg. Later on, you can even automate the cooking since raw egg automatically turns into omelette when heated to 70 celcius. You might also want to upgrade your pikeapple farm into another flox ranch. Not only do floxes give more calories than the pikeapple they eat (778kcals/cycle of omelette per plant instead of 400). At this point, the additional 5kg of dirt they poop and their 360 kg of wood every 6 cycles are just a bonus. I think the lack of need to harvest the plants, the lower composting need and the smaller cooking labor need should more than makeup for the grooming labor. You're eventually gonna need an evolution chamber for your bammoths though, but that's a different story.

[@XiloTheOdd]

the upside to oxygen masks is without training, there isnt a big athletics penalty without skill training to negate the penalty you get from suits. and they are made from ore not refined. their downside is obvious, your gonna scald, freeze, etc with just a mask on your face.

[@gradious7497]

And in the new DLC, the masks free up your reed fiber supply for more sweaters.

[@XiloTheOdd]

@@gradious7497 good point, hadnt thought about that.

[@ketsuekikumori9145]

Floxes poop out dirt, but I would also recommend composts to at least recycle the dirt from the outhouses.

[@ketsuekikumori9145]

I wouldn't worry about using cinnabar as a building material, you can always reclaim it later. Otherwise its only other use is a conductive liquid. If you refine it into mercury, it'll have a temp range of -38.8c to 356.8c for it's liquid state, a thermal conductivity of 8.3, and specific heat capacity of 0.14. The only other liquid that competes with mercury is nuclear waste. The main difference is the temp range (26.9 - 526.9), a conductivity of 6, and SHC of 7.44. So more accessible than waste since you get it from the start and don't have to setup a reactor to produce prodigious amounts, can be used below 0c for cooling, and there is free solid mercury on the map, so you don't have to refine cinnabar. Waste's only benefit over mercury is its SHC, making cooling more efficient since you magically delete heat using an aquatuner. Mercury can technically be used as a building material, but that would require building rooms that are below -40c, and most of our refined metal use tends to be well above that temp. The only other use for mercury that I'm aware of is the mercury ceiling lamp, which emits 60000 lux with a range of 8 tiles for 130 g/s of mercury, 60w of power, and 1 kDTU/s of heat. For comparison, a sunlamp emits 40000 lux with a range of 16 tiles for 960w of power and 5 kDTU/s of heat. I think the idea behind it is to make it the fluorescent bulb equivalent as opposed to the sunlamp's halogen bulb.

[@rifflerunderhill7006]

Really in the mood for a crunchy scone for some readon. Lol

[@ExperimentalPerception]

For Great Hall.. party line only takes up 1 space instead of 2 for water cooler. And dont need to plug it in.

[@geeksdo1tbetter]

clever

[@astonmartin0468]

THanks you. I love watching this game since i dont have time to play it

[@happyliltree]

Francis: "so long as we get our iron ore, it doesn't matter WHAT we do to the natural environment." Would love to see Francis UN-FRANCIS-ING a planet on Terra Nil.

[@Ben111000111]

Look for Mercury in a green tinged biome, your industrial brick will thank you.

[@beheroot]

by flooding with liquid mercury?:P

[@ronburgundy9771]

I love that you’re poking around with the new mechanics. But you’re still missing 1 new critter and 1 new plant. They produce ethanol and early-game super coolant.

[@pedrolmlkzk]

"1200W per second" lol Francis

It's accelerating.

[@Genesis8934]

1:40 MAMMOTH-sized eggs! damn! 8:33 I suppose it could be 4 tiles since you haven't done a transport tube down the middle of your base in years. :)

[@EarthDessert]

I think if you raise the drop chute higher to where the cargo falls when it exits, the weight sensor will detect it after every weight change

[@BNSKLages]

I'm here for the Hans-Martin Dieffenbache type debacles. Thank goodness even the experienced players make these errors. So i don't feel so bad. Also, its hilarious.

[@sponsors_not_included]

I keep calling it cynibore too!!!

[@glacier4911]

Why not move the right side of the base? It would ben a shame to destroy the woodpile 😢 love the new series. Im just getting started (2435 hours), but i can already see you tackle things way different than i did lol 😂

[@w.szymski]

The YT playlist for this run has the first 2 episodes switched. Fix plz? 🥺

[@decoy4507]

Aaaaaannnddddd we back. Great vids keep it up

[@aleksanderborowczak3830]

"Normal atmosphere -4%. That's because its in pee" Good to know piss is classified as normal atmosphere.

[@ServantOfSatania]

I was wondering why Francis has a zoo of Flox running around his research station

[@tree_eats]

Added ambience, lol.

[@alliepiper4772]

"Making sure our plants stay...watered? ethanoled?" Drunk. It's making sure your plants stay drunk :P

[@KainYusanagi]

While funny, drunk is not the correct word either; the word desired is "slaked".

[@timecrash85]

Wait till you see Ale as a resource in ONI.

[@samir5740]

From this moment on, i identify myself as a "pikeapple bush".

[@guyincognito1406]

@samir5740 Careful, dupes aren’t the brightest. They’ll harvest your fruit…

Francis, instead of using a weight sensor for the oxylite, perhaps just have it go around on conveyors?

[@thesandiiman]

"As long as we get our iron ore it doesn't matter what we do to the environment." Ahhhhh industrialism at its finest.

[@spanishlefty]

Great. Watching this before going to bed.

[@jacob6885]

I figured you would dig up clay, cook it into ceramic, crush the ceramic into sand, then make a proper (insolated) bathroom, and use the output polluted dirt to make dirt for your science.

Would that give him more dirt this way than using outhouses?

[@jacob6885]

Yes. Cause with outhouses you put dirt in, get polluted dirt out which you then have to turn back to dirt. While with a water filter, polluted water in, polluted dirt out.

[@bengoodwin2141]

I love this game but it is SO tiring to be constantly addressing problems as they appear and eventually mess up and lose everything, and also tiring to make sure I copy tutorials perfectly or experiment for dozens of hours on my own designs for perfect closed systems in sandbox. For that reason, Watching someone smart do this is perfect!

Eh, problems are usually only temporary setbacks, you don't lose everything. Especially if you build with a bit of redundancy and safety buffers.

[@bengoodwin2141]

I'm not very good at doing those kinds of things, and having even a single duplicant die just feels awful to me, but yeah.

[@geeksdo1tbetter]

​@@bengoodwin2141 me, too

[@Metaz]

Keep them coming! :D

[@BWSC81]

For the oxylite "expansion"/"evaporation" room you could use a gas pressure sensor.

[@Helicard]

Solar Panels and Mercury lights might sound like an easy way to make power since there is so much. It will run out fast once you start using it

Francis, you said that suits are better in all respects than the oxygen masks. But I think oxygen masks don't slow you don't as much as the suits? (Without training.)

[@KevBotnik]

No you don’t need to move the ladder section one tile to the left just remove the mesh tiles on the right side it’s 3 wide already

[@custume]

looking good

[@Robbyo5]

For the oxylite evaporation room, could you use Oxylite Scones supplied by sweepers, then an air pressure sensor, to avoid the weight plate issue? you might need the conveyor hopper providing oxylite in a separate liquid locked section, though. Or to use a conveyor shutoff.

[@Saturas35142]

Ahh yes... piss in the food locker... a classic..... :D

[@rueautumn8303]

I cringed instinctively

[@suborbitalprocess]

That's a Yellow Alert indeed

[@daybot]

Why not one to right, and leave te wood pile?

[@JessWLStuart]

32:12 Why doesn't ONI have a duplicant drying station? 33:44 Why not use an atmosphere sensor instead of a weight sensor?

[@titanuranus2136]

I think there is still a bug where off gassing oxylite debris on the ground deletes CO2. Maybe you are preventing it by picking it up with sweepers right away when the Alveo Vera are harvested, but 1.8KG of Ethanol on the ground would 100% prevent it. Still something to be aware of/test more through than I just have, with a 5x5 box of 250g/tile CO2, 3 pieces of oxylite on the floor, in less then 5 mins all the CO2 is gone. I think you might have once used this to delete CO2 in rockets with a box of oxylite.

[@pedrolmlkzk]

Just pressurise it with 2kg/tile of CO2

[@erebus5170]

Accepted functionality of the game - fixing it would break other aspects of the game. "works as intended" He has used it before in a rocket,but it can lead to oxygen over pressurising. Just have more than 1.8kg of co2 at the bottom.

[@tyrannius3143]

Your playlist of this series has the wrong order of video's. The second episode is the first in line and the first is second in line.

[@shieck3178]

Your the best man.

[@FerrybigGaming]

33:38 Never do input - output - output - input. This creates stuck pipes

[@stegles]

17:50 why not just use a drop lock on the top left corner of the pump, dig out 1 tile of abyssalite, and go in there, then rebuild it after? You have ethanol which won't freeze. But as they say, theres more than 1 way to something a something.

[@matheuseduardo2482]

38:28 This will probably be a very very weird comment, but everytime i hear you say the word "Clay", it reminds me of Sons Of Anarchy hahaha

[@Shakis87]

if the food is warm and in a vacuum then it'll not be deep frozen (no gas) so if using a vacuum then the food needs to be frozen first

[@pronkel]

thanks for the video :)

[@gradious7497]

These Francis quotes have a totally different meaning out on the Rim. 3:57 "Pacifist we don't care about-that's a nothing." 9:18 "So long as we get our iron ore, doesn't matter what we do to the natural environment." Incoming: cargo pods containing wastepacks. 35:40 "What's the maximum amount of stupidity we can cram into the day?" 41:56 "I should really do something about those floxes." I feel like this colony was supposed to be visited by a herd of rare Thrumbos just about then. Maybe it happened off camera?

[@BWSC81]

Maybe put all the Cinnabar behind a locked door till you are ready to use it? Should prevent it from being used as default if you get it all in there.

[@yuriikrasylovych3939]

34:00 can you just add timer that retriggers the pressure plate every so often?

[@sunscream4525]

To be honest, I was hoping you would do an "exploit nature's bounty" style run, and this appears to be it :)

[@KaedeSenou]

The new oxylite plant and the new tree can be pip-planted into pots. You know, just saying.

[@amazingcola2479]

The pikeapples are kinda salty today😂

[@tree_eats]

Hahahaha... yuck.

[@Miglow]

Planet Ceres? So this is the Ceres series?

[@tree_eats]

Hydrogen and oxygen into a gas tank, at which point does it become a liquid water tank?

[@mj-lp5eb]

I'm pretty sure IamPud is pud as in pudding - (pu-ding)

[@vexxer209]

No need for weight plate I think. Just run the rail in there and let the oxy sit on it till it dissolves by itself. It does dissolve on rails right?

[@KainYusanagi]

Or just dump it in there and let it evaporate until it meets natural gas pressure sublimation point and just stops evaporating. Have a pickup in there on a circuit that can be controlled by switch, and have the output of the air pump keep pumping out to the point of pressure limitation.

[@cyrusmagnus]

@@KainYusanagi Honestly the whole "room to make oxygen in" felt unnecessary. You can put a gas pump and use the same trick with the "no power filter" to filter only oxygen into the masks. Then just have it next in an area you know will, generally, have oxygen (such as right next to the masks). It'll only run when it's refilling masks, if the mask is full it stays off. No conveyor belts, no automation, no extra rooms, no refined metal required. Run the stuff that isn't oxygen off into a gas storage. You might even snag random "other" gases you don't want and keep them safely stored away till you do.

[@KainYusanagi]

@@cyrusmagnus The point of the oxygen room was to separate oxygen generation from the room with the oxygen-generating plants because they need carbon dioxide. Also don't want to overpressurize living space.

[@cyrusmagnus]

​@@KainYusanagi And what I'm saying is that there's no need for a separate oxygen room. The main base already has oxygen being generated (otherwise the dupes wouldn't be able to breath). You can just put the pump right by the masks, out in the open, following the steps I already outlined. If you think that would somehow affect the plants or create over pressurization then you haven't actually played the game. I'm speaking from direct experience having done exactly what I'm suggesting and playing like that for over a 100 cycles (after setup) without any issue. Now I will say I'm a very slow player, because I built up ranches for all sorts of critters so I get all my refined metal from smooth hatches and my plastic from glossy dreckos, etc... but I'm none the less quite logical. xD

[@KainYusanagi]

@@cyrusmagnus Take the time to actually read what I wrote, and then go sit on a pole.

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

I think arbor tree + pips are calling from the distance lol

[@justsomebeer]

you left p in the food pit

[@Misterscout]

These damn foxes keep getting stuck in tiles when spawning from eggs.

[@teeohteekay]

You might be taking care of it off-camera, but the reason everything takes so long to do seems to me like you haven't modified all the new dupes priorities and schedules.

[@Anonymouschannel8181]

Why does your core ladder section need to be four tiles wide? I normally do 3.

[@erebus5170]

He likes to have a "porch" between the shaft and the rooms. So he ordinarily has a 5 wide shaft, but right now, has a 4 wide and doesn't have room for a future transit tube.

[@willcaine1208]

😂 base suffocation by CO2