Automobilista 2 - The New Content Looks Amazing But Will You Enjoy The Driving ?

[@Sestinomio]

My brother used to do shifter kart racing irl, and when i was scrolling through the available tracks i’ve found Ortona, our home track where my brother used to training almost every weekend …i must say that i find it extremely close to the real life counterpart, almost identical! I called my brother to do few laps to try it in vr and he was speechless about the fidelity….he was in love the kart physics too! After 3-4 laps he was doing the lap Times he was doing in real life, and he said: Let me leave or i’m going to buy a kart again tomorrow! Ehehe So yeahahha amazing job from Reiza!

[@gallinho7268]

Honestly, I’ve just been through a load of the cars and this update is a game changer physics wise! Honestly, if your like me and and have been take it or leave it with ams2, you need to give it another try with this update

[@wibblewabblewoo6249]

I haven’t plugged in my wheel for months… Just spent a couple of hours in AMS2 and fallen in love with it again, just so much fun!

[@Jpait94]

I saw AMS2 as arcadey? I normally play iRacing and Assetto Corsa or ACC and I played AMS2 after seeing the update the other day and had a blast. Its a ton of fun

[@vitprochazka6868]

I love automobilista 2. I only play in vr, no other sim can give me, what automobilista. Last I tried rfactor 2... Firstly, my pedals didn't worked. Than ffb was totally empty, I tried join some online race...errors and errors... Might be good, but I have no patience for this. Acc can't go well on my 3070. (lovely ffb anyway). But after every attempt in other sim, I'm coming home, into automobilista 2.....(some carrier and mainly more online players would be great) I quess I can call myself, automobilista 2 fan boy..

[@vitprochazka6868]

Anyway.. Last update made me happy :) (also steam sales for dlcs right now)

[@RukaGoldheart]

@@vitprochazka6868damn, didn't know sales were going.

[@vt6020]

I love playing AMS2 in VR for the immersion. I don’t know if I would be interested in this for multiplayer, due to the physics and FFB quirks, but for a quick race against AI, this is fantastic.

[@RikySim]

I get your point but as happens in every sim, there are cars better done than others. For my taste, the Gineta GT3, all Porsches, the V8s, GT4s for example, they drive and feel incredibily good and I would say at least as well as the best sims you mention. The grip and the track evolution with climate changes is super good. The FF is definetilly a top tier. They have the potential.

[@andreaiachini7517]

Automobilista 2 is a no brain buy! If you like sims, you MUST own a copy. Even the basic one with no DLC is enough. And often you can get it for less than 10 euros. It is by far the most immersive SIM in the market. You really feel to be there. For me it is no doubt the best sim in this. That doesn't mean that it is the most accurate simulator talking about physics. But it is accurate enough to really enjoy the driving and have a TON of fun. For example I don't like Open Wheels (except the one you are driving here, and in AC they are just oustanding). Automobilista 2 made me like them. Driving V10 is an absolute blast. Then the DLCs are a bit expensive, but : the basic game has a TON of content. And if you have friends to play online with, you can share the cost of DLC with them if you want (or each one can buy one for example). That is because you don't need to own DLCs to join a lobby with DLCs. In few words, it is a great game. Come on.

[@andreaiachini7517]

@@1xRacer I have 2500 hours on AC so... You know... 🤣 AC AI is crappy, you can go easily 2 second faster being an average driver. Anyway we are talking about "must have" not "the best game". And Automobilista 2 is a no brainer. As AC, and other sims.

[@andreaiachini7517]

@@1xRacer Yeah for me it is the best game for this. The sense of speed, graphics etc. It has something different that makes me really feel to be there. More than any other sim I played. Personally I can live with the lacks in physics. Many others like you , not. I can understand this too. Anyway it is not my main game, absolutely. I just like to play it from time to time, and have just pure fun.

[@miner2119]

Championship mode is my favorite I would spent countless hours on it

[@s4uss]

You can always get a very cheap steam key from some website. Just be a bit careful with those sites, and choose a good one.

[@F1wgp7]

Spa is fantastic and the classic cars are brilliant to drive on it. I love taking the Gold Leaf Lotus around it.

[@gallinho7268]

I have to say, they’ve fixed the majority of the cars and now they feel fantastic to drive. I was worried they wouldn’t get there but I’m happy to be proved wrong

[@jz2811]

I play mostly single player and I love AMS2, I find the graphics, AI, dynamic weather and live track function the most immersive of all the sims out there and especially historical content from vintage GP to DTMs, including old tracks, are so enjoyable. Something is better there and there. rF2 is great for physics, iRacing for MP or AC for mods, but as an overall single player experience, AMS2 offers more out of the box for me.

[@THIS---GUY]

I'm torn between this and RF2. Can only really afford one and all dlc.

[@Nick_Kearney]

I want someone to invent a time machine for the purpose of laser scanning old tracks that don't exist or have changed dramatically. I'd love to drive actual laser scans of 1970's Spa. 1980's Adelaide, and the pre-90's Silverstone amount otheres.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

What's New ! Main things Spa-Francorchamps 1970 - Car Radar - Added Short Oval & Speedway configurations for Opala 1986 Stock Car, Stock Car Omega, Copa Montana, Super V8 Added Low Downforce variants for all GT1 & Group C cars.

[@theodoreschultz4685]

You left off one of the most important race tracks in motor sports history. Indianapolis Motor Speedway was also added.

[@rwbrygel]

You forgot the Corvette GTP in Group C... Try it

[@Username_Invalid]

To me it has better physics and FFb than IRacing and I have played both a lot. AC is great but the AI in AMS2 are very solid. IRacing AI is the gold standard.

[@MigElite1]

In VR, a complete game changer. Amazing !

[@PeteJarramSimRacing]

Had a chance to try it today. Its a good addition, even if just for 1970s Spa. The other stuff is gravy.

[@Bsimracingnews]

Awesome stuff. It makes you wonder what triggered the hate towards the Project CARS franchise. It's still the most powerful racing game engine out there. Could it be mass hysteria...

[@aarongreen121]

AMS2 is a strange one for me..I go and play it after some time away from it, instantaneously I think, "WOW, this has come on leaps and bounds". Then I switch it off and go back to AC - everytime. There is just something about it that leaves me cold. Maybe the lack of modding? Maybe the fact you can't select the individual cars you want for that race? Small quirks with the handling? I mean this last week I've been putting together the 1998 Le Mans grid all bar one or two makes of car, you can find everything you need for AC then BOP it by unpacking the data. It's perfect.

[@Worther12]

I recently started doing test days, andcthen moved on to racing with some of the older Formula cars in AMS2. I think they're some of the best cars in the game, especially when used on the vintage tracks (love the old style advertising hoardings for 🎯 authenticity). If you get the AI set just right, you can enjoy fantastic racing. Completely mind blowing in VR. 🤯

[@s4uss]

What's missing and what Reiza should do is a slider between car shake and world shake, so you could set it to for example 50, so both world and car shakes 50%.

[@MadMaxBLD]

This already exists.

[@ianbarnes6266]

Hiya Mate, I dont know if you can help, I bought 3 identicle AOC 27" curved monitors and set them up , I use the N-videa app to "stretch" them into one desktop, all 3 monitors have varying differences, and only one can be put into gamer mode, do I need to set them individually then use all 3 for total immersion gaming, thanks in Advance Ian.

[@pmacnz]

Floaty cars with little to no front tyre loading. Sim racers who are also race drivers have said this is weird and not realistic.

[@darenlim1584]

is there worry of burn in on the OLED, or is there something you run after to keep the screen from burn in?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I just turn them off when not using them I don't use it for word documents or EXEL / have single white windows in one space all the time. I think only really the above is a worry for burn in. If you use them for gaming / as you would use them like a tv they are fine. Not noticing any burn in on mine yet after a year of very heavy use.

[@tradesman1000]

It looks like the particle effects have been improved. They seem a lot cleaner, not so blotchy.

[@andyrobinson2653]

So much inconsistency with cars. Some play offhandedly and others play nicely, ie handedly. :)

[@777kingofkings777]

He's loving it 😂

[@ricardomaya2001]

Nice review! It's a Shame that LFM wasn't able to implement it on AMS2 :/

[@daren42]

You had me at animated cows

[@neurokinetik]

Have they fixed the controls calibration? I refunded both this and PCars 2 because of problems with getting the in-game steering angles to match the real world inputs, something that has never been a problem with AC, ACC, or iRacing.

[@captainunderpants200]

I've been loving me some AI races in VR recently in AMS2. Gonna have to try the historic content out. If they, by some miracle, added Targa Florio to this sim, I probably would play little else.

[@jinordnes]

If they only fixed the dedicated server software so we can make a LFM league already... I would drive nothing else..

[@omni7173]

Dedicated servers working i tested it and watched the API. It allows to emplement all LFM features easy. I think LFM just got paid from RF2 team, or they just don't like AMS2.

[@GM_Sanjit_Ramesh]

I remember reading somewhere that a multiplayer overhaul was one of the big things for 2023, so maybe then we will see LFM

[@omni7173]

@@GM_Sanjit_Ramesh I don't think we should to wait for LFM or somethink like this. It is possible to make much better multiplayer for Reiza in ONE hour. Just reset the players ranks and raiting, disallow players to host RANKED sessions, put 3 hourly running sessions on the top of the server list - that's all. I don't understand why they do not do it, maybe they want to make something special. But It seems to me, Reiza don't care about multiplayer. Just look at AMS1. Better in all aspects then Raceroom(maybe besides licenses), with track progression, better visuals, better FFB - and no organaised multiplayer. They just could hire two freelancers for 1500 usd an same online system as RR could have be done.

[@davidmabbley9924]

@@GM_Sanjit_Ramesh oh, i hope so

[@Strannix1979]

You were in town and you didn’t say ? I live ten minutes away. Next time we’ll grab a beer mate!

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Aha ! I was there for spa 24 , such a nice bit of countryside 👌. Walked around spa town and some of the other small places.

[@roanegaming]

Please answer one question for me, I like the looks of this however I just tried the Steam Demo and it is absolute crap, so my question, Is the game handling actually like the demo?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Yes , some cars are better than others but the handling is not on the same level as AC and RF2

[@roanegaming]

@@GamerMuscleVideos Thanks for the reply, So your answer (if I am correct) is that the demo IS representative of the actual in game handling? if so then I will give AMS 2 a wide berth

[@Cagefighter]

The cat bounces so much its off putting, no other game is like this!

[@davedeja]

Is Rfactor2 on your list of must have simulators?

[@JAILEDforMEMES]

For me it will be always GT1 Merc car which I absolutely love driving in AMS2 :) Then Formula V10 and V8 are absolute blasts 🤩 I don’t really touch GT3 and GT4 cars too much because I have ACC for that :)

[@muygalan]

Does anyone know which microphone headset he's using?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Modmic 5 that sticks onto headphones , the plugged into a goxlr I use senhiser 599 and 595 headphones as they are really comfortable.

[@EazyE11]

If you are primarily a VR racer then absolutely get AMS2. In my experience the madness engine is the only one who has mastered VR (never played Iracing). Still waiting for a proper career mode though.

[@weswheel4834]

I see the way the doctors are thinking. Watch GM, drink tea, get stronger wrists, handle more FF.

[@cuezaireekaa]

my issue with this game is after putting it on an ssd, and messing with all the graphical settings, UDP settings and post processing, i get a screen lockup(whle ffb and sound keeps running that lasts for a few seconds randomly throughout the game. it makes me crash every time. i cannot figure out what is causing it. :(

[@lmelaci]

That's almost the same for me but my fb "freezes" - I was beginning to though that the problem was my GPU

[@cuezaireekaa]

@@lmelaci i tried different drivers for my gpu. but nothing... all my other sims dont lock up like that either so im baffled

[@Burl_Hurlbutt]

Having the same problem, and seemed to start about two weeks ago. Happens 15-30 minutes into every single race, where it just randomly jitters and locks the screen multiple times per lap. Must be something they've changed in the latest build, and it's really unfortunate.

[@cuezaireekaa]

@@Burl_Hurlbutt hrmm, for me its been happening since i can remember. but i started playing more last year so i noticed it more. never happened to me on project cars 2. i cant finish a 10 lap race without it freezing at least once a stint. so annoying.

[@Burl_Hurlbutt]

@@cuezaireekaa Somebody on the forums a little while back mentioned they were having stuttering like we seem to, but they said it was fixed by moving from a standard hard drive to an SSD. Mine's already on an SSD, so I swapped it to a different one and will test it right now, but I'm not thinking it'll help. Hopefully there's a fix for it somewhere, because even with how unoptimized ACC was, it didn't happen in that game.

[@tmoshamo]

Well if its got cows, i am in!! 😎

[@MetalSimVR]

Good to see you wearing a helmet combined with a T-shirt at Spa. All protected...🤣And just giving more content to the people won't solve the Multiplayer-problem...🤷🏽‍♂️

[@alpha007org]

A couple of hours ago I had some free time and I tried AMS2 after a long pause. I used their recommended settings for FFB. I raced against an AI in Mini Cooper at Interlagos. It was a smooth experience. I had a good feeling what a car was doing, it was predictable, and had a really good time. For the last 30min I tried GT3 (m6) and F-Usa3 cars at Spa. I still feel there is "something" strange. For GT3 cars, it's so different from ACC that I will never adapt. Too much ACC hours are ingrained in my brain. But F-USA3 cars? I don't know what it is, but I just didn't enjoy the driving. Mini Coopers were so fun, had a feeling of "weight" and inertia, could react to FFB. Maybe my expectations of how open wheeler cars "should" feel is so wrong, but when watching real life open wheelers, I don't see them drifting as a default way of driving. At least I had this kind of feeling. So all in all, AMS2 is a must have sim. You can find cars you'll enjoy. FFB is good. Aris said the best: FFB is like a language and with every sim, you have to learn it. If you keep fiddling with the settings, you'll never learn. I wish Reiza would from the launch continue polishing the physics, FFB, "small bugs everywhere",... but they instead pumped out multiple DLCs, while core elements were so fscked up that it affected the mindset of a lot simracers. I think most view AMS2 as a "curiosity" to try occasionally and then go back to "main" sim. It had a huge potential, but now I don't know if it could get the playerbase it needs to turn this mindset around.

[@levivandijk7139]

Can anyone explain why I can run asm2 on ultra with crew chief but can't run r factor or Ac on low

[@JBVXR]

Not sure about RF but AC is very CPU hungry, you could have a CPU bottleneck.

[@levivandijk7139]

@@JBVXR thanks!! Don't really know much about pcs was confused why I could play a game 6 years newer than Ac haha

[@JBVXR]

@@levivandijk7139 Yea I can understand why that might be confusing. Multithreading in games is a slightly more recent thing, it came about as CPUs started hitting a single threaded ceiling and they started putting more cores (threading capacity) into chips. But older games don't make use of the extra cores. Though CPU clockspeed has also improved too somewhat recently. Saying that, AMS2 also uses tricks to reduce CPU load too (the A.i don't use as complicated a physics simulation as the player).

[@wibblewabblewoo6249]

I have the same problem since upgrading the PC (I don’t know anything about computers). AMS2 runs perfectly on ultra settings in VR but I’ve simply given up with AC & ACC & RF2, which is sad as I used to love playing them all. Now I only play AMS2 as it simply works.

[@levivandijk7139]

@@wibblewabblewoo6249 weird thing is my computer handles Acc decently but Ac and rf2 my PC sounds like a dang harrier jet

[@Leon83858]

can you finaly change the output monitor?

[@brtcobra]

that car bouncing up and down like that would drive me bonkers

[@slaphead90]

FFB - WTF. I just don't understand what it's trying to tell me. It's the weirdest FFB in the business, and that's with several custom files tried out.

[@omni7173]

It is official Reiza topic on forums for 1.4+ ffb settings for different hardware. Just follow them its best way to get proper ffb.

[@Username_Invalid]

Best ffb for me with Moza wheel.

[@Sergio-lh5xv]

I find it very weird how up and down the chassis go. Looks really floaty. Like I'm wearing a car costume and running bare feet in the asphalt 😅

[@pantau7337]

:D never heard someone put it this way. im glad that view fixed on horizon is just one of options in todays sims. It feels weird, even tho i would say it is more realistic for slow bumps, fast bumps should shake your vision/virtual head, at least it does to me in RL

[@Cagefighter]

Yes, I feels weird too when driving, its awful, don't play this anymore

[@philippegohier6992]

He choose that way because motion sickness

[@MrFWStoner]

You’re describing Fred Flintstone 😅 This just bad camera configuration. In the menu, select "legacy head movement" and set "Head movement" slider to like 20 or so. All the rest to 0 and you have almost no bouncing of the chassis anymore. He probably had no legacy selected and head movement to 100. This way the picture is locked to horizon and all the movement goes to the chassis. People who tend to be sensitive to motion sickness prefer it this way.

[@kuku6031]

Legacy head movement = On world movement = 15-20 all other movement very low like 1-5 or even 0 per personal preference. Looks the same as any other sim .

[@THIS---GUY]

I torn between this and Rfactor 2

[@andrewcurtis4568]

Shame about the armco barriers at Spa, they should've gone for the 60s version.

[@Logan912]

I think they wanted to keep the historic tracks consistently in the early 70s which is a decade often overlooked in sims.

[@Rauzaire]

In my opinion, one thing that hold AMS 2 behind is the way the other vehicles that we follow, AI or player, behave. They don't have the fidelity that can be found in other sims, it's like they're removing some animation frames to save on FPS, but it also really hurts the immersion. In Iracing, Rfactor2, and AC, when you're following cars, you can see them bounce and flex in a much more satisfying way.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

If I remember correctly it's because they (ai cars) use simplified physics in order to reduce CPU load , this was originally done with madness engine so lots of cars can run without issues especially on games consoles like PS4 ( when project cars1/2) first came out.

[@Logan912]

@@GamerMuscleVideos That’s what every sim in history does except AC and ACC

[@andysonofbob2599]

I'm a friendless loser who doesn't want to play with people. I wish AM2 had a career mode like PC2 or even AC.

[@sfunny8570]

I haven't tried it yet myself but there is a career mode for AM2 called Racing Life on Race Department

[@jn1211]

SAME!!! I'd ask you to be my friend, but then neither of us would be friendless losers lmao!

[@andrewfarquhar9083]

I would also welcome a PC2 career mode well said, was not really a fan of the AC one in the first few events

[@BadWallaby]

you can make custom championships and use that thing called imagination lol

[@andrewfarquhar9083]

@@BadWallaby well reminded thanks sir I had actually forgotten.

[@OhItsThat]

I really like the classic content in AMS2. I mean, what other developer has the imagination and balls to release the very awesome but very real world unsuccessful Corvette GTP? Talk about developers who understand sim racing doesn’t have to be a try hard take it too serious esports platform with redundant content. However the feeling of the content can be hit and miss. Plus other issue like all of a sudden since the last update can no longer alt tab the game and come back without it killing my wheel and forcing a reboot of the game. I mean what the hell? A few features I find helpful as a single player only person are missing like custom grids. That’s a pretty big turn off for me. All titles should have a system like AC with CM. Or RaceRoom and even iRacing. rF2s system really sucks but it can be done unlike AMS2.

[@Gdad-20]

Project Cars 2, with a new hair cut.

[@davedebruin5652]

I cant really agree on youre piont. I play (and enjoy) rf2 allot in competition basis (vec). But had some realy cracking online races in ams2, Just from a random lobby. I look it from another perspective, ams2 drives different, but it don't mean is less good. Just different. If i dont choose to be in the virtual endurance championship (rf2) ams2 is my go too sim

[@renangoncalvesflores]

AMS2: a GamerMuscleVideos: BUT WILL YOU ENJOY IT?

[@jugnot236]

Am i the only one who find the new update has modified the physics of the cars ? It is very light but to me they increase a certain 'traction control' into all cars ... no ? I am testing it since 2 days and i really wonder..🤨

[@robertbrown1778]

AMS2 trail braking is still uniquely broken (in 16 years of driving sims). You can literally jump off the brakes whilst turning and it still won't snap oversteer regardless of BB or diff settings etc. The tyres are so forgiving, you can also drive around most of the track on full throttle with 45 degrees countersteer. Which is fun, but not very realistic, is it? I like grass and cows too, so it's disappointing.

[@hammernz199]

This game gets alot of bad press for how good it actually is.... some more content/licensing, a good mp system and it will trump everything, without a monthly sub and paying for everything out the nose.

[@BobbyDuwitz]

ArbortistMuscle

[@jn1211]

the incompatibility with my wheel and the lack of any sort of sense of progression means i just can't get into this game. I can fake it with my drivehub, but i already refunded it before i realized this fact lol.

[@A.I.musicIntelligence]

The floaty feel is caused by the camera, put lat and long forces along with head shake to zero and it goes away...nothing to do with physics.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

No it's not , it's caused by the tire model. I mean having Camara bounce all over the place might make it feel more floaty and floaty to some but that's a totally seperate issue. I've obviously driven with different cam settings and any experienced simracer can tell the difference between Camara movement and how much a car tends to move around on the track. I normally play with the lateral and longitudinal cam on 0 or near zero anyway but use lock to horizon and vertical to filter out bumps.

[@RacingWithChuck27]

It’s a fun hot lapper but not ready for serious online MP. There’s simple things they don’t fix, debris left all over the track. Take Indy, speed pit limit is off and the start of pit road is not correct. There’s more but if you want to be called a sim you’ve got to simulate, not arcade

[@DieHardjagged]

Why the hell is the car bobbing up and down so much, makes it look hilarious and unrealistic.

[@philiphansen1103]

I don't like how ams2 handles it feels very loose

[@BadWallaby]

WRC Generations is a no go from me...dont waste your time or your money

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I enjoy it 👍

[@s4uss]

It's probably still gonna get a number of updates, fixes and optimizations. And it's probably gonna be discounted a bit during christmas sale. It's a solid game overall.

[@Emily1963eh]

AMS 2, the only sim that makes me sick using tripples, it is unusable for me.

[@void_snw]

Why's that? If it's the wobbly camera, just put it to legacy and all 0 in the view settings. That'll bolt it to the cockpit.

[@kevin_m]

@@void_snw exactly my settings. Works well.

[@thiagoods021]

Doobie Aware 16:26

[@Rave-agent]

Same old same old. Stunning to look at but just as exceptionally bizarre in the driving department still. Pass.

[@belh4wk]

if you want helmet view; switch camera's twice more ;)

[@Citizen-vl5cy]

You're slowly acquiring the art of being diplomatic towards the fanbois and still telling the rest of the world that it's shite. Very well done. I'm proud of you.

[@flyingphoenix113]

The content is too sparcely spreaded across too many categories. Having one or two cars per class does not make for enjoyable, diverse racing. On top of that, the content release rate is a very slow trickle. Reiza brag about their historic content, but many of the most historic tracks don't have historic versions (Watkins Glen, VIR, Road America, Daytona, Bathurst, Monaco/Azure, etc.). The sim as a whole would improve tremendously with the addition of just a few licenses, or simply making more content with the licenses that they have. Bare in mind, Reiza don't have access to the following oems: Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Acura, Mazda, Nissan, Infinity, Ford, Audi, Maserati, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo, Kia, Hyundai, and many, MANY more.

[@AudioJellyfish]

I don't even enjoy it without the new addition. The game just feels strange compared to other sims.

[@MrBreakthompson]

That car bouncing looks sooo stupid haha

[@DicraeoF1]

This could be changed, I have no idea why GM chose this setting.

[@Username_Invalid]

@@DicraeoF1 To make it look bad on purpose 🤔

[@JBVXR]

@@DicraeoF1 It helps his motion sickness, it locks the camera to the horizon instead of the car.

[@FedericoTesta1]

Still don't like it

[@iorhensamuel2921]

The track looks the same as the project cars 2 version

[@Sideways_Singh]

Gran Turismo 7 looks way better and has way better physics and ffb. So this game kinda makes no sense other then v.r realism, but GT7 will most likely be getting that soon aswell, so idk.

[@louiejenkins6369]

🤣🤣 GT7 has dead FFB and pure simcade physics. It does look good though

[@vitprochazka6868]

I bought ps5 and grant turismo dd pro bundle just for grant turismo. Enjoyed it for two months and came back to automobilista. Graphics in gt7?amazing, but not better than in automobilista.. (rain in gt7? Wtf...) ffb? Good, but automobilista loosing traction?my hands do counterster automatically, cause game told me. Imo both games are great, but automobilista is on completely other lvl.

[@Sideways_Singh]

@@louiejenkins6369 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 thats what happens when ur clueless and havent played the game but society told u hating is cool, n ur ego tells u ur too good for it because previous gt games were not sims, but in reality ur too poor to afford a ps5 and find out for urself. The old gt games before gt sport had simcade physics gt sport is where it became a sim and with gt7 its a good level sim with good physics, u can search it up n see some reviews from reputable sources, they all say gt7 is now a sim and has better physics and ffb then automobollista and is at the level of raceroom.

[@Sideways_Singh]

@@vitprochazka6868 in which department is autombollista on a another level? Literslly in every way GT7 is better

[@louiejenkins6369]

@@Sideways_Singh 🤣🤣 I've played the game on ps5 for hours and hours using my fanatec podium. I like to play console and PC games depending on what I feel ike playing. Deffo not hating, just speaking freely on how I feel about the game. IMO it's not a simulator It's a game that is quite clearly aimed at the control pad scene which is sonys main client base. If you enjoy it that's all that matters. Maybe a little bit harsh assuming someone is poor. Enjoy the grinding for the three new cars my friend

[@houseyUK]

When it comes to specific cars, the only people who can provide perspective on realism is those who have driven both cars at pace, real and sim. EVERYONE else is just guessing. In terms of general realism of driving we all have a view but those who have never raced/tracked or even driven a car can be pretty much discounted and those that have only driven 'some cars' also have little measure by which to compare. Doesn't mean they can't have an opinion of course, but the most vociferous in this debate tend to be those with the least experience I feel.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I think the issue is some people have very pore intuition as to how things work and other people don't. If you are someone that can learn sports and skills very quickly then you are probably going to be able to tell generally how realistic x sim is regardless of if it's a driving sim pool sim flight sim. I had never been in a race car or a real plane yet it was super obvious which sims are generally closer to reality (largely due to sims having massive issues with tire models) and when I did those things in real life it was what I expected , well reality was even more forgiving and progressive than what I expected lol sims made me think reality was less forgiving / harder than it is. Still haven't flown a real helicopter but it's really clear which sims or which specific simulated helicopters are closest to reality and I'd bet the real helicopters are again much more forgiving than sim copters but also way more nuanced and progressive. Basically I think some people have a much more keen intuition for these things than others for whatever reasons. But yah if you could filter out people that havnt gone out on a track in a resnably fast car and slid a bit , filter out people that haven't set lap times within x time of pace on 4 different physics engines and people that have only used one bit of equipment then you would probably get better conversations on the issue of what is generally more or less realistic and why or which components can cause x and y perception. The people I see that argue the most for singular sims as in x sim is the most realistic or is perfectly fine , tend to be people that mostly just play that one sim and happen to be good at that one sim.