ENGINE NOISE RATTLE ON COLD START. 1-2 SECOND RATTLE NOISE COLD ENGINE

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[@Dehkada]

Hi, thanks for the video I’ve got a skoda superb, it makes a noise whe I start it in the morning only for the first time. It is rattaling for a few seconds then gets back to normal I uploaded a video if it would be ok for you to check it. Thanks a lot kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6i4qIaBesp8aMU

[@Dehkada]

Just to remind it started after I changed my cambelt.

[@jblack57]

So you said if it sounds for 1-2 seconds and gone quiet after the tensioner works fine, yes??

[@bygonebebygones8503]

I have this on an Audi A1, is this nose damaging the engine if the chain is loose to start with?

[@rustemahmetxhekajj8132]

Hi, My Audi A6 2013 model 2.0TFSI has 1-2 seconds noise after I start for first time of the day than works fine? But even sometimes very rare happens when I accelerate I feel like some strange vibration I have to take my feet of the accelerator and press again bo problem. Any advice what should be the problem?

[@Pinkielover]

Pretty pointless if you don't show what the sound is like

[@dimitrijemijic1554]

People with car with timing chain will know the sound...

[@HeavenlySunset24]

@@dimitrijemijic1554 no they wont. None of us know about cars thats why we're on youtube.

[@samwh4775]

@@HeavenlySunset24 exactly I have an Audi A4 with 51k miles that makes a noise for like 2 seconds on cold starts and then goes away, is a bit loud, enough to hear it from like 10 to 20 meters of distance, idk if it is a serpentine belt noise or what exactly is but it’s not a rattle

[@cc4005]

@@samwh4775 just wondering if you ever got this fixed? just started hearing this on my car unfortunately

[@pluto3586]

@@cc4005 me to, anything fixed yet?

[@TheBozn]

It would be nice if you had some examples or the problematic noise it self in the video, preferaly in the beginning..

[@TheSonicendeavor]

This isn't always the cause of a rattle. Honda VTEC's often rattle for a couple of seconds on startup when the VTC actuator fails. It's an annoying sound, but does not cause any damage.

[@therealcool1144]

I got a honda, started doing it on 50,000km, now 97,000. Been through 4 major servicing. Nothing wrong with it, I think it's just Honda.

[@TheSonicendeavor]

@@therealcool1144 That's typical of a VTC actuator failing in a Honda VTEC. Honda has a technical services bulletin (SB 016-012 and subsequent TSB's covering additional years) addressing this and there's also a class action lawsuit over this issue. I had mine replaced under warranty and the sound is gone. I know several Honda VTEC owners who haven't had this issue, so it doesn't affect everyone. Message boards are full of complaints, which Honda service departments are largely ignoring or are unaware the Honda has extended the warranty on these failing VTC actuators.

[@roadster9639]

@@TheSonicendeavor my base model r18 is doing it in my 07 , same issue ?

[@TBT.Stories]

@@roadster9639 the R series do not have a VTC actuators, they only have the i-VTEC... I also have a R18A2 (European version) and only has this problem when it gets very cold outside (so I think is a Starter/Battery problem, I'm not sure though)

[@roadster9639]

@@TBT.Stories mine was my starter

[@thestruggleisreal9626]

If you have a Toyota 2009-2012ish with VVT-I... Then this is not your problem. Your cold rattle is from the cam phaser sprockets and mine has been doing it for 230k miles and still does it after an engine rebuild with which my entire timing kit was replaced. The VVT phasers were the only things that weren't replaced... Which is precisely what Toyota was doing to solve this issue under powertrain warranties. For me I believe it is my exhaust cam phaser.

[@Duddie82]

We have a 2011 Kia Sorento, and it has that same noise. We will contact someone in South Louisiana to see if we can get that fixed. Thank you for showing us what causes that noise. We have the large V6 engine, the very fast one. We love our Kia Sorento.

[@ThatGuy-qq1nw]

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[@HeavenlySunset24]

Ugh that's annoying.

[@quandaledingle8960]

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[@MusikIsUniversal]

😂

[@EniTumyic]

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[@diytheproway782]

🤣

[@SuperHammerzeit]

do you have audio about the rattling sound? Some people say its starter, some say its vtc actuator and some people say that oil with different viscosity would help

[@SuperHammerzeit]

because my 8th gen civic 1.8 only rattles under 4 celsius temperatures after I changed to 0W-30 castroils which should be quality ones and low viscosity in cold... which makes this situation strange.

[@utubetrutharrowmichael-and9105]

Yeah that would of half handy ?

[@kale-abtessera4790]

Any examples of this sound?

[@metzmatu8409]

@@kale-abtessera4790 View this video on this cold start rattling... by speedkar99 Here's Why Your Car Rattles on Cold Starts. kzbin.info/www/bejne/naitZnV4fcdsjZY

[@roadster9639]

@@SuperHammerzeit ever fix it ? Same issue

[@kenwoods6663]

The two second rattle is a noise that cannot be missed. My 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe exhibited that sound. These videos gave me a good guess as to what the noise is. I brought the vehicle to my repair shop and they diagnosed the sound as a timing chain issue. They had to keep the vehicle overnight to experience the cold start noise. The cost of repair is $4700. However, the vehicle is in excellent condition with only 133,000 miles on it. It’s worth the money because my daughter drives it and I am not letting her have my 2002 jeep wrangler Sahara - also in pristine condition.

[@Therey1898]

I replaced the timing chain on mine n still rattled on start

[@elcomandante9299]

4700 smackers? They charged my 300 bucks on my 06 Chrysler. Parts n labor.

[@mikeblaz]

$4700...they took you over. You must be rich.

[@achmadzailani5906]

We need to hear the engine noise before and after

[@John-yy8rp]

Takes me back forty years on the old Toyota 20r engine etc, same exact problem. Anyway I own a 2015 C300 4matic (longitudinal w205) that is doing this exact thing with only 59000 miles. I'll be tearing the front of the motor off soon. Good video, thanks.

[@josephshultz6726]

excellent video, very helpful

[@raygonsales1680]

Hi good afternoon! Where is your auto shop located? I have a 2013 Cadillac Cts wagon with a 3.6 lfx engine

[@luislll5842]

If ur wondering what it sounds like it kinda sounds like a can like if u put a soda can on ur bike and it’s just making a ding sound. That’s the best I can explain it cuz mine makes it too sometimes

[@craigzilla100]

Is it safe to assume that the engine will remain in time if you take off the tensioner and pop on a new one or do you have to retime the engine when you do that?

[@ebah6767]

time will be fine if you do not remove the chain

[@jblack57]

So you said if it sounds for 1-2 seconds and gone quiet after the tensioner works fine, yes??

[@larryordine7542]

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[@ronsag65]

Nothing wrong with the tensioner, it’s easy to squeeze due to no oil inside of the tensioners body. It is a hydraulic/mechanical tensioner.

[@hightechredneck6258]

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[@chriskarsten1898]

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[@JoshuaAMG]

Great quality video. Thanks for the info

[@antonymetro753]

Awesome your jobs

[@poszeudes]

No sample on 5he noise? I have a mercedes viano with rattle and knocking noise on cold start. After some times, engine seize up and found out cylinder 4 inlet valve snap and the piston damaged.

[@Dehkada]

Is it the same with cam belt? I recently changed the time b. It’s making big noise when I start for the first time, after during the days it’s ok.

[@garethevans4573]

Very good video guys.lol

[@Nessolfte]

Thank you

[@rehannazir682]

Just curious,!! Do you need to change the chain too or just the tensioner? Thanks

[@Toddtoddy78]

I think you may have just solved my problem w an 01 Tacoma 2.4. I have been thinking the rods were knocking at cold startup but this sounds more likrly

[@thehegt]

Change your fuel filter

[@Toddtoddy78]

@@thehegt I’ve read that these particular fuel filters never need to be changed

[@builtjeepwj6345]

On my 06 a4 2.0t I am having a vibration from the exhaust for half a second at start up. I have removed my rear mufflers and installed new hangers so I’m not sure what it could be. Ether the exhaust rattling or the turbo wastegate rod rattling. Does anyone know if the wastegate rods are a big issue with these cars

[@newwavepressure6478]

Dose the 2.5l in the 2014 Camry se be affected???

[@DaVid-kc3qz]

My Range Rover Sport TDV6 has a rattling noise as well. Just wondering if that could be the same issue. But not cold start, it 's a constant rattling when you rev a bit. Otherwise at idle it sounds ok. Thanks for your video.

[@imakillaya5862]

Nice rod knock ? Sucks

[@kickinwinghotboi883]

The roll of your tongue makes it sound like you were under water. I was very concerned

[@jasminecollins3497]

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[@seymourscagnetti1413]

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[@galactic904]

i heard a clunk sound (1 second) during a cold start. Mitsu Lancer, standard engine, 211K km. It has a timing chain. Also, last week it had loss of power, so i added fuel injector cleaner, it is ok now. But that Clunk noise at start yesterday scared me.

[@Adrien_broner]

Does it need to be fixed if you hear a loud rattle on cold startup but it goes away when u turn it off and startup again warm?

[@lev2795]

Mine does this exact thing, did you ever figure it out?

[@silvanusmunoh3533]

Where are you locate please?

[@killshot2333]

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[@nabilking4611]

All Toyota has this sound in winter but run fine for years 😊

[@dougpeters4293]

My Lincoln MKZ I just bought has a rattle for 1-2 seconds at startup as well usually when it's cold. When it warms up it won't do it or on a warm day it won't do it. Perhaps I have the wrong weight oil in it.

[@austinsmith7601]

My MKZ has the same problem on a cold start, does yours rattle when driving really slow too?

[@Joe-lh7dv]

Did u find out the problem?

[@dougpeters4293]

@@austinsmith7601 nope. Just at startup

[@dougpeters4293]

@@Joe-lh7dv yes. Timing chain rattle. It takes a couple of seconds for the chain tensioner to develop oil pressure

[@joseluis8512]

@@dougpeters4293 Hi, I have a 2010 Ford Taurus (Same plafortm I think). The issue was the timing chain, so changing the timing chain will solve this problem? Thank you.

[@tajhealthnature8570]

Thanks i have a Suzuki 2004 hopefully i get lucky.

[@eminiscalperpro9729]

mine has been doing it excessively lately. Also, the oil light comes on temporarily. once the pressure is up, it seems ok. It's a second gen xterra with the 4.0l. Do you think it's the tensioner or could it be an oil pressure issue that is not supplying the tensioner correctly? i have heard of many timing chain issues and the oil galley gasket issue with the nisson 3.5 and 4.0

[@frankopanklaric]

Is your car ok now?

[@eminiscalperpro9729]

Yes it's fine. The primary tensioner guide is what's causing the noise. Pretty common on tbese, the plastic slide on the guide breaks and it slides down, which causes the tensioner plunger to over extend. The area where the tensioner plunger rides is in that plastic slide, so the tensioner now pushes directly on the metal guide. So, it makes a rattling noise b/c of the bad guide. But, I've driven it for probably 10k miles and she is still doing fine. I will be replacing all the timing components n water pump very soon. But, I don't have any oil pump or other engine problems. I have found that the engine seems to like 10w-40 oil over 5w-30. Unless it's extreme cold, then i will continue to use the 10w-40 from now on. Currently using Mobil 1 high mileage synthetic oil. U get more protection in the high heat and it's good to about 0 degrees. The guide issue is pretty common and you may not even know yours is bad. U can remove the small access cover on the front engine cover (passenger side) and look to see if your tensioner is fully extended and not resting on the plastic guide. But luv the X and it's still doing great after 16 yrs.

[@ihavecojones]

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[@lesuoamakenete3875]

It would be more helpful if you demonstrate with an engine that makes an actual rattle when it starts...

[@fieldsofomagh]

Handy info to know !!

[@joeking2954]

great share thank you

[@audaxxi1537]

If i had a dollar everytime he said "guys". id be a millionaire

[@barringtonsmith9147]

Is that noise we hear at the beginning of the video the sound

[@JuanGonzalez-cj3kp]

I just had a bran new timing chain kit put on my 2008 cadillac cts and it started rattling a little bit on cold start ups for a few seconds about 6 months after job was complete is this normal or should I take the car back to the garage?

[@ninoh5783]

Did you figure it out ? Mine does it to

[@Robinhood179]

09 Accord. Been rattling on cold start up literally for 8 years. No issue with engine at all.

[@danegay4327]

I just bought an 09 accord a few weeks ago and have this same "rattle" or clicking sound on cold start. Ever find out what causes it?

[@Robinhood179]

@@danegay4327 Supposed to be the Actuator. Pretty expensive to fix so I haven't messed with it yet but as of late it has gotten a bit louder and is kinda embarrassing when your around people and start it up lol.

[@danegay4327]

@@Robinhood179 oh ok cool. I watched a couple other videos that seemed to line up saying its the VCT Actuator. And yeah lol it is kind of embarassing when you cold start it in front of people. Thanks for the reply!

[@Robinhood179]

@@danegay4327 If you do decide to get it replaced, I'd love to know what it cost you. If mine gets much worse I'm going to have to price it as well.

[@danegay4327]

@@Robinhood179 alrighty so I just talked to a dealership and they priced out $990 flat out the door. 6 hour labor, the part alone is $256. Mine got worse to the point of losing oil pressure while driving (at least just tripping the sensor). Ill probably replace the solenoid too but that shouldnt require the dealership.

[@qualityreno9689]

Wow! You guys rock! Thank you for posting this video

[@benhall8946]

I got a question will it just be in the valves are hurt hit the Pistons to

[@ivayloipetkov]

It will destroy the engine ... pistons, piston rods, valves everything...

[@johnpaulgallagher863]

Mazda 5 20 litre diesel bit of a rattle noise when driving first in the morning then goes away what could be the problem

[@davidsanchez4413]

Girlfriends 02 I35 infinity rattles when cold for like 1-2 seconds and that’s really it it’s been alright somewhat

[@mridware9694]

I changed timing chain tensioner on my 2014 Rav4 and sounds go away

[@sonicword3442]

How much?

[@mridware9694]

@@sonicword3442 $20

[@RobC99]

My car makes a rattling noise when I start. Really nervous. Hopefully it's not an expensive fix

[@thepistolguy859]

Ever figure out what it was mine is doing the same thing. Was it whats going on in this video.

[@wesside3457]

This is frustrating because of all car sounds....of all the sounds that people complain of, the ticks the rattles, the squeals, knocks, dings. The groans, the rumbling, the creaking. Hissing. Popping. Banging. Click clacking. Humming. Droning, Scraping, Flapping. It does not matter which sound...all over the entire internet, there are only instances and experiences described as: Sounding like a _______ sound at start up. Or when attempting a cold start. The sound is heard, however briefly...and then normal operation proceeds. That is the exact opposite of my problem. In fact, the lower the outside ambient air temperature is a function of the time that my 2.2 L ecotec will operate normally WITHOUT making a strange rattling chain noise upon starting. To be clear: the sound is only heard once the car reaches normal operating temperature (~190F). I'm also burning a good deal of oil. I'm at least a whole paycheck away from being able to put any more money into this. Someone else besides me surely had shared this experience?

[@pcmacp719c1]

My 2016 KIA Forte with the _Nu_ 1.8 Litre MPI engine also rattles for 1-2 seconds on cold startup *ONLY.* It sounds like an old tractor. LOL! 🤣 After that short time it sounds nice & quiet. *NO* metal shavings in oil at all. I've heard of others with my same car having that same rattle, and they have 300,000+ miles on the original engine. Hopefully my engine will last; it just sounds agricultural.🤣

[@officerJatt]

Hi is it still working good with the rattle sound .

[@ItsHappyHourArchived]

I would also Like to know cuz my sonatta does the same thing. Turn key and it ONLY rattles while i have the key turned. So basically the moment i release the key, the rattle comes to a complete stop and the engine sounds nice and smooth.

[@pcmacp719c1]

@@officerJatt Hi; sorry for the late reply. Yes, my Forte is still running well; lately the rattle sound has been extremely minimal/nonexistent.🙂 I'm at 44K miles & *_only_* use Full Synthetic oil which I change every 5,000 MI. or 1 year *MAX.* As I've heard from a Mechanic, _"oil is cheap, engines are expensive."_

[@officerJatt]

@@pcmacp719c1 thanks alot

[@pcmacp719c1]

@@ItsHappyHourArchived Hello! Yes, my Forte is still running well; lately the rattle sound has been extremely minimal/nonexistent.🙂 I'm at 44K miles & *_only_* use Full Synthetic oil which I change every 5,000 MI. or 1 year *MAX.* As I've heard from a Mechanic, _"oil is cheap, engines are expensive."_

[@JI77469]

so I had this in my Subaru Legacy 2012 and also noticed my oil level was low I topped off a quart and now it's gone. I have 97,500 miles. I know I'm due for a timing belt change, but it seems that this noise is entirely due to the lack of oil pressure and thus lack of proper tension since the 2012 legacy has a hydraulic tensioner adjuster. I only had this grinding noise for two days and it went away after 3 minutes. Does anyone think this needs to be looked at ASAP or could it wait a few weeks when I have more time?

[@galactic904]

Sounds like a Tesla, smooth as silk

[@elcomandante9299]

No no no!!!! Timing chains do not stretch.

[@ronaldavis6018]

Been driving my car for 3 years with the timing chain rattling and I'm pretty sure there's a piece of the timing chain guide in the bottom of my oil pan. I wouldn't say it Is an immediate fix 50,000 miles later

[@bstract_w5]

Replaced mine and it still rattle at startup.

[@Therey1898]

Same here. Did you figured out what was the problem ?

[@VOIixiIOV]

Looks like i have same problem.

[@H4Harshu]

How much it cost?

[@gregchapman7438]

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[@cacadeperro]

ok? ok ok ok ok oh ok ok! thats all i hear :)

[@PabloGonzalez-io6pq]

My 2016 Kia Forte rattles like described here, but it only does it when it is already warm and has been sitting for 10+ minutes. When it is cold, it never rattles, you can hear it in the following video at ~16s: kzbin.infoSsRWwYWwzbU

[@Karbz_]

What if my car makes a cold start rattle noise but i can clearly see it has a timing belt?

[@williamclaflin7863]

The tenisor is crap

[@wesside3457]

@@williamclaflin7863 this is frustrating because of all car sounds....of all the sounds that people complain of, the ticks the rattles, the squeals, knocks, dings. The groans, the rumbling, the creaking. Hissing. Popping. Banging. Click clacking. Humming. Droning, Scraping, Flapping. It does not matter which sound...all over the entire internet, there are only instances and experiences described as: Sounding like a _______ sound at start up. Or when attempting a cold start. The sound is heard, however briefly...and then normal operation proceeds. That is the exact opposite of my problem. In fact, the lower the outside ambient air temperature is a function of the time that my 2.2 L ecotec will operate normally WITHOUT making a strange rattling chain noise upon starting. To be clear: the sound is only heard once the car reaches normal operating temperature (~190F). I'm also burning a good deal of oil. I'm at least a whole paycheck away from being able to put any more money into this. Someone else besides me surely had shared this experience?

[@Dosindapendence]

ok whats the sound ???

[@honeycandy5741]

I have that noise too, they said it might b the “chain”? ($1,000)

[@JK-cq5nc]

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[@DeadpoolyoteRed]

Wish u had the sound… my car rattles and then After I drive it a while it doesn’t do it

[@sarojkhanal9528]

I have a same problem did you figure out why ?

[@DeadpoolyoteRed]

@@sarojkhanal9528 my downpipe came lose

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