Secrets of The Motorway - M90

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The M90 is bit of a peach. It's a motorway.. yes, but it has such wonderful features spanning a few decades, and in some cases, centuries. Today, We'll be exploring the M90 motorway which runs from the West of Edinburgh to Perth.
This episode is full of amazing sights such as coal mines... and sliproads. There's also a rather famous bridge, and then another rather famous bridge. And another. No Forth though. See what I did there.
In this series I aim to explore what our motorway network is hiding. As we drive along at 70mph..ish...we simply just wouldn't be aware of what we're missing. This series will uncover some of the hidden secrets our motorways have to offer.
Outro Music - Ben Treeby - Guitarist
• 500 miles The Proclaim...

[@AutoShenanigans]

11 million vehicles a day is a bit of a stretch isn't it. I think I meant to say per year :D either way.. a lot of vehicles.

[@CathodeRayNipplez]

100K Subs 👍

[@AdamGoodman4U]

keep that up, and yer soon have 11 MILLION subscribers.

[@vibingwithvinyl]

Over 127 vehicles per second would be quite a sight to see.

[@AndrewG1989]

Was thinking if the M90 that goes from Junction 10 to Junction 12 could be renumbered as the M901 or A9(M) Perth Western Spur motorway. And congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers. 😁

[@Gaspode_]

We'll have to accept your first answer, I'm afraid.

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

Absolutely spot on about chargeable green spaces built on green spaces. 👏👏👏

[@stevecarter8810]

Yeah, was not expecting such deep satire in the middle of this. great.

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

@@stevecarter8810 Jon always has epic dry humour.

[@ronniel5941]

Most of the motorway curve at Craigend is 694m in radius, the same as at Balmanno Hill, but part of it at the southern end reduces, for only about 200m, to 520 m., probably the tightest anywhere in the UK. The gradient uphill to Broxden is almost 5%, and downhill almost 6%, the steepest in the UK. It was a very challenging place to construct a complex interchange. I did the layout design - 150 pages of co-ordinate geometry calculations- no computers back then (1968-69). Other colleagues designed the seven bridges.

[@James-gf9jl]

Nice one. Presumably the original railway alignment took a different route to avoid these gradients. I actually travelled on this line on the way to Dundee, as a lad, back in the 60's.

[@ronniel5941]

@@James-gf9jl The railway from Glenfarg would have entered Perth via the still in use Moncreiffe Tunnel, below the interchange, without gradient issues, I imagine. Coming down from Glenfarg to Strathearn the gradient appears to have been 1 in 75.

[@ifmclaren]

My dad worked for Tarmac at the time, and helped "test" the new road by going down it in an artic lorry (they actually went north down the southbound carriageway as the n/b one wasn't finished). At one point the tractor unit was in a different lane from the trailer, so after that they decided to install the "HGVs engage low gear" signs up. Or so his story goes!

[@ifmclaren]

@@James-gf9jl Yes, it does, and the route of it is still there along with some towers of an old bridge outside Bridge of Earn that was demolished as part of the motorway construction.

[@NikiDinsey]

What an absolute banger of a motorway, cheers Jon. Congrats on 100K!

[@barrieshepherd7694]

Good one - script really Fast & Furious! I think the segment on "Wellness Centres" should go out as a short

[@chriswalford4161]

Yes, an absolutely brilliant spot-on bit of sarcasm. Where do I send the bill for this endorsement, by the way?

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

I mean, to quote Austin Powers, "yay, capitalism..."

[@robertturner4955]

Yay, capitalism. Especially when the reclamation of the land after the mining was probably paid for with public funds, and now it will probably be sold to the wellness wankers for less than the cost of the reclamation. If two capitalists profit, does that make this an example of the trickle down effect?

[@AndyTaylorLloyd]

Little Stephen hurts himself 🤣 Classic

[@graememckay9972]

My friend was a surveyor on the Queensferry crossing while the pylons were being constructed. She had to work night shift because she was at the top of the towers and was afraid of heights.

[@Blaa_Boi]

For any train fans, it's the LMS Jubilee Class 5690 Leander going over the Forth. Huge congrats on 100K subs

[@sdavidb5620]

On my first visit to Scotland. While crossing the queens ferry bridge. The rail bridge was pointed out to me. Being in the haze of 10 hours of flight time. Including what seemed an unreasonable small plane with propellers from Dublin. I thought that thing can not be real. Looks like some kinda steampunk fairytale bridge. A couple days latter I was able to ride across it. Being a railroader from the states. It was simply amazing to see it and ride across it. I have worked on and rode across many rail bridges here in that states and nothing compares.

[@johnmg88]

It never fails to surprise me how few bridges there are like that one. I live 15mins away and I think that very few people that use it regularly really appreciate how unique it is. You should see what was nearly built instead, it was fate that we got this one in the end.

[@James-gf9jl]

Sinead O'Conner wrote a song about it.

[@aw34565]

Always thought of the Hell Gate Bridge in New York City as railroad mega-engineering as art.

[@allymac1314]

Scotland's Eiffel Tower.

[@LOrealHardly]

All the railway bridges in the UK have a number except this one. It's simply referred to as "The Bridge".

[@Shmoozo55]

That train coming over the railroad bridge is being pulled by the LMS Jubilee Class 5690 Leander (BR No. 45690). 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Jubilee_Class_5690_Leander Cool! 😎

[@GaryB007]

You just hit 100K subscribers. Congratulations.

[@martinthain1170]

The road renumbering that you mentioned was done so that the 90 number linked Scotland's second third & fourth largest cities (Edinburgh - Dundee - Aberdeen) using Motorways and dual carriageways. Before that the road was a mishmash of numbers. When driving from Edinburgh to Dundee and Aberdeen the Motorway makes sense.

[@wallaceshackleton1889]

Three bridges over the Forth, each built in a different century and each an engineering marvel in their day. The Wellness Park was originally designed by landscape artist Charles Jenks. Unfortunately Scottish Coal went bust and the project was never fully completed. The village of lassoddie disappeared when the open cast was opened.

[@gazzaman28]

Opening 2104, the fourth Forth crossing, maybe some sort of high speed rail link!

[@flitsertheo]

The engineering marvel of 1964 (the first road bridge) didn't stand the test of time however, as it is already falling apart.

[@BonBonB]

Missing coal mine location: Pause the video at 6:02 Directly under the "o" in the caption for Netherbeath Road, just north of the railway, there is a small scar, which appears to be a former open quarry, and is linked to the abandoned road by a track up the western side of the tree line.

[@arandonmusicvenue9431]

The open cast mine was big occupying a number of fields. Fife council had excellent track record of making former opencast sites returned to agricultural and forestry.

[@TheSulzer27]

The early stretches of the M90 featured concrete carriageways. I think they are all gone now, but were a feature for many years.

[@aaronhall5796]

Great video. Grandparents live Queensferry. Perfect timing with the steam train. Btw the new bridge is called the Queensferry Crossing not Queensferry Bridge. Interesting fact, it’s the only location in the world where there is a bridge from the last three centuries are side by side.

[@130rapid]

2:58 What a LUCK! :D

[@wattster71]

Congratulations on 100K! Have some funny money!

[@tomarse99]

99.9k.. come on peeps this channel deserves 100k

[@GaryB007]

100K just ticked up.

[@davidbarrass]

I think the M90 is the UK's most beautiful motorway. From the Stunning Queensferry crossing with the views to the other bridges, approaching and crossing it is amazing. Then you've got the Lomondhills and Loch Leven. The Valley with Glenfarg, is beautiful (pity it's got a motherway in it), leading to views over the Earn valley and the first glimpse of the highlands. Even the friarton bridge offers a stunning view of Kinnoul hill, it looks like you're driving into a vast green tree wall as you come to the bridge from the south. Yes, the motorway is underspecified and confusing, but it has so much going for it

[@Zeebad_1st]

11 million vehicles a day and by 2006 had doubled? Crikey!

[@samholdsworth420]

He lied

[@WagnerGimenes]

100K subscribers. Well done, Jon. Happy for you.

[@danreeves162]

Awesome video mate. How junctions 4 and 5 of the M90 are laid out, is pretty much how every freeway junction is built here in Perth, Western Australia. Maybe the original designers were inspired by the motorway built to Perth, Scotland.

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

Another outstanding video which demonstrates why 100K subscribers is well justified. Here’s to the next milestone. Well done Jon. 👏👏👍😀

[@tweaker1968]

I live in South Florida but I was on the M90 this time last week on vacation with the wife..... Such a beautiful country.... CONGRATULATIONS ON 100K Jon!

[@belltond1527]

Thank you 🇬🇧

[@mikesetc406]

One of the best channels on youtube hands down, keep up the magnificent work!!

[@6yjjk]

My local motorway for many years, I grew up watching traffic on the Broxden roundabout (and the odd lorry falling over). I particularly remember the horrible section around Kinross made of pink grooved slabs, made a hell of a noise.

[@rossmathieson9636]

Oh yes indeed, the old concrete carriageway! Another aspect of making the M90 as cheaply as possible because they thought it wouldn't be carrying much traffic anyway. That repetitive thunk-thunk-thunk was strangely hypnotic. I remember being driven into a trance-like state by that one time long ago. I became aware i had no concept of which road I was on, or where I was driving to, and had to wait several miles to the next junction to remember I was on the M90 and heading to Perth. It remains one of the strangest experiences I've ever had on the roads.

[@tallicarule1991]

Fun fact about junction 12, it sign posts every Scottish city, local road to Perth, A9N to Inverness, M90 for Edinburgh, Dundee and Aberdeen, and A9S to Stirling and Glasgow.

[@bobbyclark6116]

Nope. Dunfermline.

[@frostyhugo5542]

Jon you are really close to 100k. I think this week might be the week

[@GaryB007]

It just happened.

[@rossmathieson9636]

Nice to see the abandoned Pottiehill tunnels get a mention. Well worth a walk-through.

[@michaelleiper7609]

did he though? I think he was feart.

[@Shuttlefield]

Good viaducts at both ends of the walk through the tunnels - and a pop in to the Beinn Inn at the end - just down the road from me in Newburgh

[@EvilGav]

Congrats on the 100k subs. I think the collection of junction 1B, 1C, and 2 must be the highest concentration of junctions anywhere on the motorway network - 3 junctions in ~1 mile, slightly higher than the at least 1.5 miles apart that they are meant to be.

[@Stuartdouglas19]

And the northbound gap between 1c entry and 2 exit must surely be the smallest gap between entry and exit on the motorway network.

[@Namiko1273]

Congratulations on 100k John, you totally deserve it. And today's video was fun to watch, thank you :)

[@sandwichbar8226]

99.9k subs! We're almost there boys!!

[@GaryB007]

He just hit 100K

[@andrewb555]

100k subscribers! 🍾Whoop whoop!! When you first stated you wanted to get to 100k I admired your ambition but doubted it would actually happen, but here we are! 🙂

[@InTheBeginningTheUniverseWas]

What was that funny conga line of oddly shaped lorries crossing the railway bridge?! The front one seemed to be on fire! Crazy... anyway, back to the motorway :)

[@roderickmain9697]

Sometimes you just think road-planners should be taken away and given a good slappin for the complete mish-mash and nonsense they have perpetrated on us. Scotland seems to have not just taken one biscuit, but several packets in this regard. (shakes head). Great video Jon. Hope you are enjoying your time in Scotland.

[@jamieokane989]

Are you aware of; changing volumes, budgets and other infrastructure demands?

[@roderickmain9697]

@@jamieokane989 Yes. But having not even half-finished schemes, renumbering making navigating confusing, doesnt benefit anybody. Scotland isnt alone in this. Just seems to have a lot that got left on the table.

[@zx85]

This motorway will take some beating for scenery and remarkableness - you captured it beautifully! Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers - I'm proud to say I've been here since (quite close to) the beginning 😁

[@rachelwalker7091]

Congratulations on 100K subs

[@malkystoddart2562]

It's good to see my childhood haunts in video (an even see my old house in Inverkeithing on a couple of occasions). Lots of happy memories running around that part of the world. I have also walked the Glenfarg railway (or what's left) well worth the bimble.

[@02shredder]

You are very talented are putting together a slick dialogue with the change in locations of the video.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching!

[@Anmeteor9663]

YESSSSS 100000 SUBS. Well done Dave!

[@nst1981]

silver play button incoming. Congratulations, Jon

[@S.ASmith]

I lived in Scotland during the Queensferry Bridge construction. I used to regularly get the Aberdeen to London train back to my home town and watched them go from river bed foundations to what we see today. I moved back down sooth before i saw it open though.

[@daz3745]

My grandad worked on the forth road bridge when it was built. My auld man has actually been on the very top of one of the main supports. I'm surprised you didn't mention the MOD radio building that has been converted in to a home.

[@davecalvert6803]

"Enjoy your week whatever it is you get up to". Well Jon, funny you should say that as I'll be traveling the length of the M90 up to Pitlochry for the week.

[@ifmclaren]

My dad helped construct the Glenfarg section of the M90 in the 1970s. They used to use the old railway tunnels as a shortcut from their site offices at Bridge of Earn to the site itself. It's also often asked why there's no exit at Glenfarg. The answer is that the villagers were asked if they wanted one, and they didn't. So there isn't.

[@malcolmpurvis]

Wonderful shots of the Flying Scotsman over the Forth Bridge. What luck!

[@syphonmaster1]

Deffo not the Fying Scotsman looked like a Jubilee class. 🙂

[@gordonbuchan6064]

@@syphonmaster1 It is Leander on it way to Aberdeen

[@grahamtruckel]

Was the Forth Road Bridge really designed for traffic levels of eleven million vehicles per day? Struth!

[@Mr_Spliffy]

Haha. Spotted

[@Mike-tv9rk]

First the Drain Addict and now this. What have I become ? I love this😅

[@robertkeddie]

Well done for calling the new bridge "The Queensferry Bridge", not its official title, "The Queensferry Crossing". It was chosen by the public from three options, only one of which had the word "bridge" in it, as I recall. It's almost as if they'd decided which was the correct name, and wanted us to pick that one.

[@thebestspork]

Also the rail bridge is just called the 'Forth Bridge'. So it goes: Forth Bridge Forth Road Bridge Queensferry Crossing

[@nitehawk86]

"f knows how they managed that", is probably the best description of the Forth Bridge that I can think of.

[@jakecopeland8068]

Happy 100k subs Jon

[@sandwichbar8226]

*100k* congratulations 🎉🎉

[@millstonebarn]

Bigger, longer, wider, stronger... Excellent! 😃

[@millstonebarn]

Also packed with interesting content. Who knew the M90 had so much to offer?!

[@hamgammonable]

As usual secrets of the motorway has been really interesting and educational and as the M90 is in my neck of the woods I have been waiting for this one. Chuffed you got to the Glenfarg tunnels, I was hoping that would be a secret you would uncover!

[@williamgeorgefraser]

40 years ago I worked for the marina that used the old railway jetty in North Queensferry. What an amazing place to work, set between the two bridges. Pity the people I worked with were total morons and that's why I left. As a railway enthusiast, I hated that they took over part of the line to build the motorway. Dunfermline was a junction for trains to Stirling and Cowdenbeath where there was the junction towards Perth and Thornton. Only the Thornton line still exists. However, in spite of this, I"m glad that the Glenfarg viaduct and tunnels still exist and can be visited.

[@ronniel5941]

I was involved in traffic surveys etc. for the proposed M90 at Kinross. In 1970 we discovered that only six people per day were regularly commuting by rail from there to Edinburgh.

[@user-mn4cc6bb7t]

A friend who used to travel by rail between Edinburgh and Perth via the Glenfarg route in the 1950s and early 1960s told me that it was a very underused service for some reason and he wasn't surprised it got the chop with the Beeching cuts. Nowadays, Perth would have been seen as a dormitory city for people who work in Edinburgh and were prepared to travel 40 miles to work by train, given the price of houses in Auld Reekie. P.S. At 0:23 Kirkliston is pronounced 'Kirk-liston', with the stress on both the first two syllables, not 'Kirkulstone'!

[@bobbyclark6116]

Beeching didn't propose closing the line, he earmarked it for retention, but creating single track working north of Cowdenbeath, which is why it didn't close in the mid 60s but the early 70s. The Scottish Office wanted the trackbed for cost saving and engineering purposes, especially after the collapse of the Masterton viaduct on 22 June 1962.

[@seanrodgers1839]

This is the one I was looking for. The place names are familiar. In Canada, the exit numbers are numbered by the km number, so there's none of that A, B, C to worry about. This is the only theme music that I don't fast forward through, I can't get enough of it.

[@davehuggins9372]

Lived in Scotland (Edinburgh) both original bridges referred to as Forth road bridge and forth bridge (never rail bridge )😊

[@xMoff]

Live in fife, always been Forth Road Bridge and Forth Rail Bridge to me 🤣🤣

[@robinhadley]

You are correct the "Rail" bridge is and has always been the Forth Bridge or as known on the rail network as just 'The Bridge'

[@stevenwilkie2134]

​@@robinhadleythe only rail bridge not to have a number I believe

[@robinwells8879]

“Dig up all the trees and put em in a tree museum and charge the folks a dollar fifty just to see em”. Best song lyric ever in my humble opinion. Nature in the raw can be a bit bad for the mental health of some townies and so they need it “interpreted” for them to look more urban and therefore familiar. 🙄

[@FinnDeacon]

Another great fascinating episode Jon. …… and a huge congratulations in the 100k Club! 🎉🍻🎉🎊👍

[@davidtraynor8075]

I never knew about that quarry! I think too many folk are more concerned with the Jobby factory over the road and it's smell. The Kelty turn off slip roads are awful, many an accident and you practically pull onto to the crossing road to see anything. Cheers again John for amazing info of a road I use daily! ❤

[@Slugsie1]

I think you have an error. You say the Forth Road Bridge was designed for 11M vehicles per day (over 7,500 per minute every minute of the day), but it's now double that. Surely you didn't mean per day, maybe per month, or year?

[@martenkats6915]

Living in Dundee, this is my local motorway. I regularly drive from the A90 around Perth to the roundabout at the end, which is the northernmost motorway journey possible in the UK: the second most northern junction to the northernmost junction. It must be a candidate for being the most scenic motorway in the UK though. Sidenote on the A9000, the old bridge is now only accessible to non-motorway traffic, buses and taxis.

[@sjedouglas]

Enjoyed that and I'm glad you agree about the M85. Given the A85 still runs to Dundee, the road never really changed number, just stuck another over the top so it can remain M85. About a decade ago, that viewing point was still open and it was a comically depressing walk, completely enclosed in a metal cage and covered in barbed wire. Glenfarg is the most interesting part of the M90s history as they really didn't need to axe the railway. I made a video about the Glenfarg tunnels about 9 years ago and there's lots of history unique to those tunnels. It's difficult to spot due to the trees but there's a second viaduct just along from the north tunnel as well, just before you reach the unclassified road.

[@keef71]

I remember reading on Pathetic Motorways that the eastbound spur from Jcn 2a to the A92 is kind of a secret motorway, the A92(M). The junction sign says Jcn 2a is for (A92) i.e. you eventually reach the A92 - but part way along the spur, there is a blue (i.e. motorway) destination sign marked A92 not (A92). That said, there is no official documentation or reference to the A92(M) so just one of those geeky little quirks!

[@day666t_]

5:43 you crack me up John. I dont know why this bit had me in stitches 😂

[@alexanderswistak1778]

Congratulations on 100K!!!!

[@gazzaman28]

We should all have a drink whenever you visit or mention a quarry or a mine ;)

[@barneypaws4883]

100K......Congrats! I never knew Scotland has so many Motorways.

[@cpink42]

soooo close to 100K!!!!

[@GaryB007]

Over the line now.

[@johnstilljohn3181]

Brilliant. Fantastic bridges - and what a stroke of luck with the steam locomotive...

[@ADJLfanatic52]

The Interstate loop road that goes around the Kansas City city centre has junction numbers 35A-Y (Except i and o).

[@AndrewG1989]

Congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers. Maybe the M90 motorway that goes west of Perth towards where it meets with the A9 at Junction 12 could be renumbered as the M901 Perth Western Spur. And the M90 where it becomes the A90 at Junction 11 towards Dundee would still remain as it is and the A85 that would still exists. Very strange on how the M90 motorway splits into 2 sections just south of Perth.

[@Rybo-Senpai]

trust me, it only gets confusing for tourists, had it a few times where someones asked me how to get back to the motorway/dual carriage because they wanted to stay on for Dundee or something but ended up coming into Perth

[@AndrewG1989]

Yeah that’s true. Plus I think that a new A90 bypass should be built to the west and north of Dundee for those who want to avoid Dundee.

[@Grantly]

Finally got to 100k! Congratulations

[@markbradford8626]

gratz on 100k subs m8y keep it up :)

[@stepheneyles2198]

That steam train was an absolute gem!! Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers; I bet you never expected that in such a short time! 😊

[@AutoShenanigans]

It was a nice surprise, wasn't expecting a steam engine.

[@stevolarry420stevenslozz3]

I was just thinking “I hope Jon is gonna do somethin like this but for A roads” 👍😎

[@danballard6249]

Well done with 100k, you deserved every one

[@ClydebridgeStation]

My local motorway jon. You didn't mention the fact the forth road bridge is now for non motorway traffic, and for bus services. Also, what about ferrytoll Park and ride, and also halbeath Park and ride. Neither are served by dedicated park and ride buses, but instead local bus services. And the reason the Glenfarg line closed was actually to do with two serious rock falls. With that happening, this presented the opportunity to extend the motorway. The remains of Kinross goods yard can be seen before junction 6

[@nuthstar6575]

Congratulations on 100k, I've been with you since 3k. Great achievement.

[@stevendavidson391]

I grew up near Bridge Of Earn and i remember when they built the stretch north of Glenfarg. I remember seeing the rock getting blasted away from the end of Balmanno Hill

[@Mr_Spliffy]

Congratulations 🎊 on the 100k. Totally deserved. Bravo

[@chubbybrown4real]

Glen Frag, Thanks for this, in my sort of neck. Of the woods. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@greg5639]

Chuff ! My life has become really exciting life now. I'm in my early 60s when I see this cannel as my Sunday treat. ! Strangely, John, it's not helping female attraction for me either ! Unless your luck has begun to change in the last few weeks, mind, I still enjoy your channel me duck ! 😂🤣👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@6thdayblue59]

Week 31 of they year guilty pleasure…… Thank you

[@stewartsherwood7769]

That shot at 1:10 is incredible! Looks unreal. And congratulations on the 100k, well deserved.

[@maxb4085]

Congrats on 100k subs

[@qKuez]

Hi Jon, would love to see a video on the A14 Cheers and keep up the good work :)

[@risvegliato]

I agree! the A14 is not what it was meant to be - it ended up being cobbled together from existing roads. The trip to places like Norwich is better than it used to be, but a 'proper' A14 as originally conceived would be better!

[@joncrawford3485]

Couldn't have put it better about The Walnut Whips - for "Wellness Centres" read Profits. Damn this country - any place you can chill out for free is being replaced by something made for profit. Congrats on the 100K subs - although it still shows 99.9K onn my screen. Still waiting for you to review the motorways of Norfolk & Suffolk... ;)

[@allymac1314]

Quick fact. The M90 used to be concrete, similar to one of those mad American highways. It was clearly laid in sections as there was a clickity-click noise similar to a train as you drove along it. But it was pretty rubbish and was forever being repaired, so sometime in the 90s(?) they tarmaced the whole thing.

[@Jonny_The_Organism]

What a treat.... the Flying Humza Useless crossing Black Adder's First of Fourth's whipping Little Stevens BRIGADOON!

[@SkeletonSyskey]

Great outro - 500 miles

[@michealgee2394]

Congrats on getting to 100 thousands subscribers, John. All the best to you mate, Oh and another great vid!

[@bjmorley]

The loco is a LMS Jubilee, I think it's 45596 Bahamas.

[@mrtickleuk]

Excellent as always, love the comment about little Stephen hurting himself, and of course the Scottish bagpipes version of the theme tune at the start

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks a lot mate!

[@b34rdy]

Fantastic, happy to see where i am and even my house in one of your drone shots. Also your spot on about these wellness centres, that site was meant to be open to the public for free but clearly somebody in the council got a nice backhander

[@johnturnbull7798]

I'm surprised you skipped Kinross where you had the old T in the park festival site on the West of the motorway and Loch Leven on the East where you will find Loch Leven Castle where Mary Queen of Scotts was imprisoned for years but escaped to England where she was again imprisoned for years before being beheaded by Elizabeth the 1st

[@ptonpc]

The first (and last) time I went over the new Forth Road bridge, I was going south in fog. The side mounted lights were just the right height to blind me. I'm sure they looked lovely on the architect's rendering but no thank you.

[@pw3789_quacky]

Congrats on hitting 100K John! I'm really excited for the M8 next!😃