Does Driving FAST Kill Electric Car Batteries?

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Жыл бұрын

High speeds and low temperatures are an EV's worst enemy when it comes to diminishing range. Alex Kersten borrowed Rory's Nissan Leaf to to find out how quickly he could run the battery flat, by driving at top speed, in sub-zero temperatures. In the name of science, of course.
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@AutoTraderTV
@AutoTraderTV Жыл бұрын
Here's how far the Leaf goes if you drive gently! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKi3pp5noN2WaJI
@bdbadsha5681
@bdbadsha5681 Жыл бұрын
hi
@mat_tamarin
@mat_tamarin Жыл бұрын
Rory and Alex are superb together, this was great
@nostalgiachannel318
@nostalgiachannel318 Жыл бұрын
Definitely better than the token woman
@ArnoldClarke
@ArnoldClarke Жыл бұрын
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@falcongamer58
@falcongamer58 Жыл бұрын
@@nostalgiachannel318 black man, white man, white woman Finally, the diversity trinity is complete
@rMarcelo12
@rMarcelo12 Жыл бұрын
Nah they shouldn't include this guy
@techontesla5284
@techontesla5284 Жыл бұрын
There is only eight battery bars they’re supposed to be 12 you’re not gonna get that much range
@BillyNoMates1974
@BillyNoMates1974 Жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. I am actually surprised how far the Leaf got with a shagged battery.
@davefitzpatrick4841
@davefitzpatrick4841 Жыл бұрын
In cold weather too , that makes a huge difference in EVs !
@caolkyle
@caolkyle Жыл бұрын
isn't the 8 bars equate to 80% efficiency left, wouldn't call that 'shagged'
@BillyNoMates1974
@BillyNoMates1974 Жыл бұрын
@@caolkyle I would if its original real world range was only 80 miles and that was with good batteries
@caolkyle
@caolkyle Жыл бұрын
@@BillyNoMates1974 I think going over 20miles driving like that was actually really good. Given to get most out an EV would be city driving anyway. To get 60/80 miles is good and really cheap if it’s purely a commuter car or getting shopping. Then have a ice or longer range electric for longer trips
@victorc.979
@victorc.979 Жыл бұрын
@@caolkyle it 8 bara out of 12, so more like 66% left
@CampGareth
@CampGareth Жыл бұрын
That poor confused BMS. I'd have loved to see a Leafspy readout during this to see what it was thinking.
@dylan_00
@dylan_00 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking this as well - I'd bet if anything you'd find a few bad cells pulling the whole pack down, but this was still a pretty impressive showing all-in-all
@chrisw443
@chrisw443 Жыл бұрын
It was thinking oh boy I got plenty of range, I coul..... Oh no, OW! Where did my cells all go?!
Жыл бұрын
Take out as many as possible on this same test. It would be amazing to see how they perform on top speed. My Kona 64 drops quite a bit, but obviously I can't range test at top speed on motorway. :D
@MaticTheProto
@MaticTheProto Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@MrDgt66
@MrDgt66 Жыл бұрын
véda
@Y2Kvids
@Y2Kvids Жыл бұрын
Bjorn nyland
@FalloutNewNarwhal
@FalloutNewNarwhal Жыл бұрын
My MG5 cruised at 70 in -4°c a few weeks ago and did about 178 miles which was far more than I expected of its 250 mile good range!
Жыл бұрын
@@FalloutNewNarwhal 70 isn't top speed, is it? :)
@szalaigabor1714
@szalaigabor1714 Жыл бұрын
That's a great video! I'm studying electrical engineering and nothing came as a surprise in this video! You can see the battery temp's quick rise, the premature turtle mode, the gentle degradation of power, and the cutoff at the end. Li-Ion battery characteristic in reverse :D Great to see theory in action!
@gobinduppal4429
@gobinduppal4429 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a Li-ion battery.
@htimsrecneps
@htimsrecneps Жыл бұрын
@@gobinduppal4429 The warranty booklet literally calls it a Lithium Ion battery.
@gobinduppal4429
@gobinduppal4429 Жыл бұрын
@@htimsrecneps hmm. I thought the early cars were Ni-Mg
@Koda14
@Koda14 Жыл бұрын
@@gobinduppal4429 Early EVs often were the likes of NiMH. But by the time we got to the first LEAF it was always Li-ion. The exact chemistry was revised a lot over the years to improve reliability, efficiency and longevity of the battery health. But all of the LEAFs were based upon Li-ion technology.
@alozborne
@alozborne Жыл бұрын
The LEAFs use NMC chemistry
@skrevox
@skrevox Жыл бұрын
The BMS was probably like 'You're drawing how many amps from a 10 year old Nissan Leaf battery? For 10 minutes??!! Okay I''m out."
@Bruno-xb2mt
@Bruno-xb2mt Жыл бұрын
Skoda in the back just chillin while the leafs working over its ability
@thawk2563
@thawk2563 Жыл бұрын
Love this kind of content!! Great to see Alex and Rory together on Autotrader! This is fantastic.
@ArnoldClarke
@ArnoldClarke Жыл бұрын
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@thawk2563
@thawk2563 Жыл бұрын
@TheClayZay i can confirm that I am real 🤣 well i think i am anyways 🤔
@nadnerb2k
@nadnerb2k Жыл бұрын
I would've liked to have seen the GPS speed. The Speedo on my Leaf shows 87km/h when my GPS reads 80. 97mph, somehow I reckon you were going pretty close to 89 ....... Absolute hoot of a video, thanks for sharing, got a good laugh 🤣
@W2APS
@W2APS Жыл бұрын
Yup. My leaf needs to show 80mph on the speedo for real world 70mph. They're notoriously inaccurate! 😁
@Koda14
@Koda14 Жыл бұрын
​@@W2APS Have you changed the wheels to a different size from the original specification? Any 24 or 30kWh LEAF Should always be an indicated 77mph to do 70 real world if on original wheels. They are set to over-read by exactly 10% in the name of efficiency.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
For sure they were going exactly the 89 IRL just as quoted. Its a software limiter after all.
@tinyrodent2821
@tinyrodent2821 Жыл бұрын
Cars in the UK come with a tolerance of up to 10% over, but they cannot be under. My car is 2-3mph off at 70, my girlfriends is 5-8mph off at 70.
@pbegley
@pbegley Жыл бұрын
Great video, great chemistry with Rory and Alex, and I almost cried when he pulled out mince pies as a snack! (I'm from the US, but my Nan made amazing mince pies).
@MrMarty77
@MrMarty77 Жыл бұрын
Now that's a test I can get behind.
@FengWah
@FengWah Жыл бұрын
For the record I think there's a manual release for the e-brake in the boot/trunk underneath the false floor.
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 Жыл бұрын
Don't you need electricity to open the trunk?
@FengWah
@FengWah Жыл бұрын
@@pogo1140 Yes but like a combustion powered car there's a 12V battery under the bonnet that's separate to the traction battery. You can drain the latter but still have power to operate the lights, doors, windows, etc.
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 Жыл бұрын
@FengWah and the handbrake solenoid can't be released by the 12v battery?
@FengWah
@FengWah Жыл бұрын
@@pogo1140 Apparently! Fortunately I've never had the need to find out first hand.
@svenwesterlund3405
@svenwesterlund3405 Жыл бұрын
@@pogo1140 Should be possible, but I think they drained both batteries. A jumper pack could probably solved the issue. Also, if they had stopped just before the car went into neutral, they could recharge the car by towing it and use regenerative braking. Have personally been towed for about 40 miles, got 95% charge
@timeforbeans
@timeforbeans Жыл бұрын
I love this first test, I drive an older Leaf..and I dont use it for speed...but this is amazing! The Leaf is an amazing daily driver
@nexusyang4832
@nexusyang4832 Жыл бұрын
The Leaf is such an underrated car. It's not meant for everyone but for those in the target demographic is perfect!!!
@z-trip5457
@z-trip5457 27 күн бұрын
Hey, looking at a 2012 with 8 bars left, you reckon it's any good?
@JWL-UK
@JWL-UK Жыл бұрын
Hands down the most entertaining EV test video of the year!
@Jorj57
@Jorj57 Жыл бұрын
you know what mate, this should totally be a full on series! driving cars flat out untill it stops completely in the autobahn
@ilkerYT
@ilkerYT Жыл бұрын
now thats a perfect example of ''good content''
@captricharddee3634
@captricharddee3634 Жыл бұрын
Really? Well you're easily pleased then.
@ilkerYT
@ilkerYT Жыл бұрын
@@captricharddee3634 be toxic somewhere else.
@Undisputed_King
@Undisputed_King Жыл бұрын
@@captricharddee3634 I bet you prefer drag races
@Lot76CARS
@Lot76CARS Жыл бұрын
Excellent, Alex and Rory answering question we didn't know needed answering... surprising that it lasted as long as it did..
@AmaranthineTech
@AmaranthineTech Жыл бұрын
This is a 8 bar Leaf, so it has a lot of battery degradation, but even I was impressed it was about to travel that far at that speed. At least you had fun in the test. That smell was probably the gear oil as it has an pressure exhaust for when it heats up and since it probably doesn't ever happen unless you drive at full power for a long time, nothing to really worry about. 😁
@michaelp4122
@michaelp4122 Жыл бұрын
21.8 miles (33km) is considered far? I drive around 80mph (125km/h) on the highway all the time, at temperatures colder than -3C....
@AmaranthineTech
@AmaranthineTech Жыл бұрын
@@michaelp4122 Considering the math, yes. Show me any full sized passenger vehicle that can drive at +90 MPH on a half-gallon of gasoline (same as a fully charge 8 bar Leaf) for +22 miles and that would be the world record for gas vehicle efficiency. 😄
@michaelp4122
@michaelp4122 Жыл бұрын
@@AmaranthineTech Why half a gallon of fuel? Compare full tank to full charge. That's the point, a fully charged Leaf is useless in the real world. Also don't thumb yourself up......
@AmaranthineTech
@AmaranthineTech Жыл бұрын
@@michaelp4122 Because videos that try to compare EV to Gas range are not comparing apples to apples. A full tank of gas to a full charge means nothing. If you want to compare, you do it right. Compare actual energy to energy. Otherwise, the comparison is useless and means nothing. Anyone can add more batteries to an EV or add another gas tank to increase range. I always laugh when I see videos that complain about EV range, like somehow the gas vehicle could even approach the same efficiency of an EV is a silly thing to try and prove in a video. 🤣
@michaelp4122
@michaelp4122 Жыл бұрын
@@AmaranthineTech If I drive out of town, I want to know how far I can go. If the leaf gets me 22 miles and my cottage is 220 miles away.....well I don't even make it to the on route charging station LOL So yea, it only makes sense to compare full charge to full tank when referring to range. The reason why a lot of people don't buy ICE is because of range anxiety. Who adds another gas tank to their car? This isn't a Safari in Africa. I'm also pretty sure modifications like these void your warrenty. You have a weird perspective
@thindo
@thindo Жыл бұрын
Would like to see the same test done on a Tesla Model 3 long range... Just to see what you actually get
@MaticTheProto
@MaticTheProto Жыл бұрын
One from the first production year
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
Might be not much more actually, becuase of the Teslas much higher speed limiter increasing power draw almost exponentially.
@sko1beer
@sko1beer Жыл бұрын
Tesla just got fined in Korea for exaggerating claimed range
@michaelp4122
@michaelp4122 Жыл бұрын
@@GoldenCroc Most people with EV's tell me to expect 40% of the claimed range if you drive at highway speeds (80 mph) in these temperatures. So maybe 80 miles on the Tesla in the real world? EV's are for city folk.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
@@michaelp4122 I am not sure we are talking about the same thing here... are you talking about the possible range of the tesla at 80mph? Because the same test as this "car range at top speed" is way, way more than 80mph for a tesla model 3, and consequently the range is much lower than at 80mph, thats why I wrote the post above of the range not being much more than this leaf, at each cars top speed.
@Kraven83
@Kraven83 Жыл бұрын
They're brilliant together, what an unexpected surprise
@buzzdean7756
@buzzdean7756 Жыл бұрын
I have 2014 Nissan Leaf, LOVE IT!! 77,311 miles with 10 capacity bars!! I get 67 miles on a full charge.
@roberttranceedm
@roberttranceedm Жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much. Incredibly fun!
@TransparentUtoptia
@TransparentUtoptia Жыл бұрын
Should do this in all aged EV's, sooo entertaining!!!
@esm7708
@esm7708 Жыл бұрын
Leaf's are fairly unique having no temperature regulation which predictably ruins the battery.
@grahamwatt5541
@grahamwatt5541 Жыл бұрын
My Nissan Leaf (2012) with new batteries salutes you. Well done, so much joy. Now I wish I had access to a track.
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 Жыл бұрын
I think it calculates a conservative range based on speed/battery draw but also sheds load to prioritize driving continuously even at lower speed. Pretty impressive really. Took a weird turn with feeding him but it was a good ride. Nice video.
@therealrando
@therealrando Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant for bringing Alex on the channel! Good job auto trader 😂👍
@jonathanwebb8307
@jonathanwebb8307 Жыл бұрын
Interesting excercise. I had expected it to do more. I had a Rex EV fir 4 years and never had any extreme loss of range, however I did always drive normally with flat out only for short periods.
@davidrumming4734
@davidrumming4734 Жыл бұрын
I like this. More more! Would be interesting to see a comparison with 3rd generation Leaf with the bigger 🔋fitted.
@TML34
@TML34 Жыл бұрын
Title should have been, "How Far Will a Leaf Go, Driven by a BMW Driver."
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the Nissan Leaf UPGRADES..... Come on Rory!
@ianhollands1641
@ianhollands1641 Жыл бұрын
Rolling resistance stays roughly constant so the power to overcome it is directly proportional to the speed. Air resistance is very different and increases as the square of the speed. The power to overcome air resistance thus increases as the cube of the speed. As an example , suppose at 30mph it takes 3hp to overcome rolling resistance and 3hp to overcome air resistance so a total of 6hp . Now accelerate to 90mph , the power to overcome rolling resistance is now increased by a factor of 3 ie 9hp. the power to overcome air resistance has to increase by a factor of 3 cubed i.e. a whopping 27 times , so the horsepower is now 81 hp . So the total horsepower has gone from 6hp at 30mph to 90 hp at 90mph. No wonder the range was so diminished.
@husseinbataineh7904
@husseinbataineh7904 Жыл бұрын
great video 🌹 I own one, 2013 model It's a beautiful car I bought it in 2022 for $10,850 It really is an amazing car
@solentbum
@solentbum Жыл бұрын
If you 'jump start' the 12 volt battery you can release the parking brake. The only time my 2011 LEAF failed on a run was when the 12 volt battery went dead. After a 10 minute wait it did what most Lead/Acid batteries do and regained enough charge to operate the controls.
@mattsmith517
@mattsmith517 Жыл бұрын
My 2013 LEAF has a foot operated parking brake where you would normally find the clutch on a geared car, so I suspect that the electric handbrake on the original car was not a great design and was dropped.
@solentbum
@solentbum Жыл бұрын
@@mattsmith517 My 2014 LEAF had the foot operated parking brake, My 2018 2.0 LEAF had an electronic parking brake, my 2022 LEAF Acenta has the foot operated brake, whilst the Tekna has the electronic brake. I believe its a matter of price. (profit margins) BUT- My sons MG4 has an electronic parking brake even though it is much cheaper than the LEAF.
@mattsmith517
@mattsmith517 Жыл бұрын
@@solentbum Yuck. I hate electronic parking brakes. Another reason to stick with what I have.
@Sanjayadon
@Sanjayadon Жыл бұрын
Great video! More crazy tests on Leaf please?
@niklaseklund88
@niklaseklund88 Жыл бұрын
How about a model 3? Do the same test!
@WayApp
@WayApp Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
@nujjigram
@nujjigram Жыл бұрын
These guys are officially the next top gear. Top notch content, extremely entertaining Very creative
@aatheus
@aatheus Жыл бұрын
An entertaining range test. It's cool how much utility these old LEAFs still have. You CAN tow the LEAF . You just need to get all four wheels off the ground
@suncitybooksgeraldton335
@suncitybooksgeraldton335 9 ай бұрын
If they power up you can tow in drive the car just thinks it is going down hill it will regen if you lightly brake and your range will go up.
@paulriggers1558
@paulriggers1558 Жыл бұрын
we are a nissan dealer, our old hack does up to 103mph for about 25 miles, 4 up, heater on medium. the biege interior is now a dark leather type of finish try reading the owners manual, the handbrake release is under the boot floor, but it only reqs a 12 jump-start, you flattened the normal 12v battery cocking about at the end, doh...
@JosGrun
@JosGrun Жыл бұрын
More of this please, absolutely brilliant. 🙌
@kaarthik9
@kaarthik9 Жыл бұрын
Guys put Alex on the thumbnail. Do you guys not want views??!!
@KiloIndiaAlphaNovember1
@KiloIndiaAlphaNovember1 Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought the opposite thing
@melingamingreal1
@melingamingreal1 Жыл бұрын
I argree
@davidoluwadare2787
@davidoluwadare2787 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@RiverMersey
@RiverMersey Жыл бұрын
As a driver of an electric forklift truck, surprisingly, using the horn does use a huge amount of energy
@krisg.4257
@krisg.4257 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see you guys upgrading the Leaf's battery for one with the double capacity and reporting on the advantages. Search for a company called Cleevely Electric Vehicles, they are based in Cheltenham and the service only takes a couple of hours. Surely you guys can get a discounted battery for some 'free advertising'.
@davefitzpatrick4841
@davefitzpatrick4841 Жыл бұрын
They have stopped battery upgrades , to many issues with them , they will still do cell replacements though .
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Cleeveley's did a full battery refurbishment on a 9 year old Nissan Leaf a few years back. The job took 4 hours, and the cost was £500. They posted a video of the refurb on KZbin.......
@mattsmith517
@mattsmith517 Жыл бұрын
I would first ask them to check LeafSpy for bad cells. One bad cell can bring the performance of the whole pack down, and you can take it out and replace the bad cell with the correct High Voltage working procedures. Clevely have done this procedure in the past.
@guycha0s380
@guycha0s380 Жыл бұрын
Leaf is for the junkyard
@krisg.4257
@krisg.4257 Жыл бұрын
There is a company in the US called Ample that's replacing Leaf's battery for one with their modular design, check on KZbin for a report from CNBC
@dazaro3
@dazaro3 Жыл бұрын
Rory and Alex ,wow what a team,more of this please
@nikc1313
@nikc1313 Жыл бұрын
The cold snap was the first time I've driven my little e208 in sub zero. Can't believe the drop off in range. Went from 5 trips to work per charge to 2. Stuck with it for a 3 year lease but damn I have buyers remorse.
@Sto79Be
@Sto79Be Жыл бұрын
Don’t you return home between trips to work? What’s so inconvenient about plugging it when you’re at home?
@_Rafiki.
@_Rafiki. Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the inconvenience of plugging in regularly is the inconvenience
@Cleanpea
@Cleanpea Жыл бұрын
Probably can't charge at home, is the problem?
@reececollison5101
@reececollison5101 Жыл бұрын
@@_Rafiki.not to mention the cost of electricity at the moment
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
Bad luck, but you really should have done more research. You are obviously close to a worst case scenario for your driving profile if you see that much change.
@ryanauburn
@ryanauburn 4 ай бұрын
On a cold day too, gotta love the snow on the ground
@Brotherbear75
@Brotherbear75 Жыл бұрын
Such a fun review - THANKS
@samuelfitzpatrick9739
@samuelfitzpatrick9739 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video guys.
@geemanbmw
@geemanbmw Жыл бұрын
3:09-3:11 look at the left side of the screen at the top railing of the track the guard rails they are giving the illusion of them going backwards through the windows on the drivers side lol its a visual mind trip!! And when you look at it again look on rorys side it's normal...haha
@chillout1109
@chillout1109 Жыл бұрын
21.6 miles at 99 mph! That is actually very impressive for such an old car.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын
yeß
@markm49
@markm49 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Compared to what ? A small 10 year old petrol car could do 300-400 miles as it would still have its full range. Electric cars are a dead end.
@roland9367
@roland9367 Жыл бұрын
@@markm49 This is the worst EV. So it would be comparing all petrol cars equal to a 2CV
@alangordon3283
@alangordon3283 Жыл бұрын
@@roland9367the dolly would still trump them
@guycha0s380
@guycha0s380 Жыл бұрын
@@roland9367 even 2cv is better than the leaf
@tubaterry
@tubaterry Жыл бұрын
When I took my Polestar out at the Corvette Museum I think I used something like 3x the normal power per mile? It was intense!
@markwellington1254
@markwellington1254 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Test!!
@techguy3424
@techguy3424 Жыл бұрын
I've been tempted in the past to buy one of these with them being as cheap as they are, but I was always hesitant about their range. My current work place is a 50 mile total commute through surface streets where speed limits are 45-55 mph. But if that changes, I may end up having to do interstate driving
@TheUkdan02
@TheUkdan02 Жыл бұрын
First video I've seen with Alex since he left CT. I missed him from there as his and the teams banter saw me through many a furlough! But now.. the powerhouse that is Alex and Rory 🥳
@dmacalis
@dmacalis Жыл бұрын
You can keep up with Alex weekly on his new KZbin channel: Autoalex Cars
@fhs7838
@fhs7838 Жыл бұрын
I have a 43.2kwh BEV. Its recommended speed is 60kph, and can do a 360km range with it. But when I cruise at 100kph, it need 20kwh/100km to maintain the speed. Also AC and any incline will affect the range. Also you never want to use the last bit of power out of the battery. So another 30% of battery is "useless". Leave that 30% of battery for what if your planned EV charging station closed.
@alangordon3283
@alangordon3283 Жыл бұрын
Need more tests like this .
@MarkAtkin
@MarkAtkin Жыл бұрын
It does only do 89mph. The Leaf is notorious for overreading by 10%. Also the 12 battery capacity bars are not linear at the top end. You don't lose the first one until the battery is down to 85% state of health (SOH). Thereafter you lose anothe bar for each 7 - 8% of capacity lost. With 4 bars missing this Leaf has lost around 40% of its capacity.
@davidgrea
@davidgrea Жыл бұрын
Brilliant love the speed impressive cheers lads.
@alfie3836
@alfie3836 Жыл бұрын
Is Alex part of AutoTrader now?!? That’s awesome!
@ertus306
@ertus306 Жыл бұрын
Great video :) 😊😊😊
@gohumberto
@gohumberto Жыл бұрын
My LEAF speedo over-reads by 10%. I think this is deliberate by Nissan..... for the reasons you just demonstrated. However, £4,500 gets you free motoring (if you have solar panels) for most urban journeys, in a really rather plush little car.
@GudieveNing
@GudieveNing Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Loved mine. Needed extra range so got a Tesla, but miss the character of the 2011 Leaf.
@salibaba
@salibaba Жыл бұрын
As much as I’m a huge advocate, own a leaf and have an average solar system installed. During high summer you can add a fair few miles after the house has taken what it needs, winter though, different story don’t fool yourself into thinking it fully runs the place. Yesterday I made enough solar energy to boil my kettle once. For half a kettle. Over the year though it makes a dent through over half of our leccy bill.
@kenzohkw
@kenzohkw Жыл бұрын
@@salibaba excellent insight for us who don't have solar yet
@recumbentrocks2929
@recumbentrocks2929 Жыл бұрын
That was seriously impressive Nissan Leaf. So you never need to panic when the light starts flashing on a motorway.
@5uperhands
@5uperhands Жыл бұрын
I think I'm right in saying that this is an early leaf (grey interior - made in Japan) so has the non lizard battery and they resistive heater rather than a heat pump. I got up to 99 in mine on a closed road ;) and it was so safe.
@chanel_x6282
@chanel_x6282 Жыл бұрын
Do more like thisssss!!!🔥🔥🔥
@MrKlawUK
@MrKlawUK Жыл бұрын
lots of fun. Surprised it managed what it did. Would be good to take a few cars or one modern one at different speeds to see how it affects m/kwh. 100mph not that useful (but fun), but seeing the ‘fuel efficiency’ at 60/65/70/75 could be useful for people?
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 Жыл бұрын
great video guys
@bumfie
@bumfie Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Doing the same test on a hot day would be an interesting comparison . Note if air-conditioning used in the summer it works the same as heater draining in winter youll lose 10- 15 miles straight away
@jorgetomas3983
@jorgetomas3983 Жыл бұрын
The A/C pulls less than heater on ;)
@bumfie
@bumfie Жыл бұрын
@@jorgetomas3983 i drive a Nissan leaf and i found it roughly the exact same . ill retest it again this summer . The only difference i find is winter heater on lights on windscreen wipers + rear window heater on so bound to pull much more in winter off the total miles than summer . ill try and do better test winter during day with no lights no windscreen wiper + no rear heater . just heater against A/C summer
@jorgetomas3983
@jorgetomas3983 Жыл бұрын
@Bob G you know that everything that is connected to the 12V battery doesn't affect the performance of the HV battery? The only system that affect the HV battery is heater or A/C because these systems are connected directly to the battery. I understand that you have consumption but its very little compared with those. I have a Hyundai Kona without heat pump. I saw it once consuming, at full power, 6kW while heating but the average is like 2kW. In summer, the A/C pulls on average 0.7kW
@Mr_Sin99
@Mr_Sin99 Жыл бұрын
Great Episode guys, very funny. Can u do the exact same episode with MG4. That will be great.
@salibaba
@salibaba Жыл бұрын
If the key was in the car, should have been able to power on to acc mode. Then hold foot on brake, into neutral and handbrake off. Leaf doesn’t like neutral with the door open though. As soon as the car rolls it jumps to park.
@tatendalesliejambwa7081
@tatendalesliejambwa7081 Жыл бұрын
You gotta love this duo
@mozzaev
@mozzaev Жыл бұрын
Does driving fast kill all cars range, EV, ICE, Hydrogen etc, the answer is yes.... would love to see this with all types of car....
@danspratt2
@danspratt2 Жыл бұрын
electric handbrakes would be a bit rubbish if they turned off when the battery goes flat! They're activated by a screw like mechanism, the screw doesn't move in or out unless turned by the motor
@paulriggers1558
@paulriggers1558 Жыл бұрын
yeah, bit embarrassing for "motoring journalists"...
@MrButtonMonkey
@MrButtonMonkey Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes, this is a strong duo. I was excited to watch and am impressed with the video.
@Miata822
@Miata822 Жыл бұрын
The LEAF is a fun little car and an ideal commuter for many people. If you buy one just be sure to check the battery health.
@jasertio
@jasertio Жыл бұрын
BMS probably needed calibrating, which is why the range was way off.
@joecarrolljnr
@joecarrolljnr Жыл бұрын
Legend has it that the nissan leaf is still in Millbrook
@admlorenz
@admlorenz Жыл бұрын
Drive a leaf from Denver to Loveland ski resort fully loaded with 5 people, skis on the roof, a few inches of snow on the road, below freezing. It definitely won't get up into the 90s or go 21 miles.
@Thelaunster
@Thelaunster Жыл бұрын
Make this a series!
@06goatm6
@06goatm6 Жыл бұрын
That was great. Highly enjoyed it. I'd love to see it in a bigger battery car, something like a Tesla or even a Bolt.
@jordskates
@jordskates Жыл бұрын
The end of this clip reminds me why I wish there were more electric cars like the VW e-UP as that has a physical handbrake
@tomarmstrong1281
@tomarmstrong1281 Жыл бұрын
It really surprises mr that so few people are so unaware of how energy/power is produced, stored and used. is it not obvious that the harder a motor/engine is driven the more power/energy will be used? I still know that my wife does not understand that boiling a full kettle of water to make one cup of tea uses more electricity than simply boiling just the amount of water needed to make one cup of tea.
@DanielPradoBurgos
@DanielPradoBurgos Жыл бұрын
Rory + Alex... Amaaaaazing chemistry!!! ❤️
@futdez5222
@futdez5222 Жыл бұрын
Rory and Alex, absolutely fantastic in this video. Great video 👏
@Retiredkiwi
@Retiredkiwi Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. Wondering if doing this test, degraded the battery at all?" or will it still do 66 miles if driven lightly? . (or was leaf spy health reduced) My 2017 40kw leaf is at 92.5% health currently, had it's charge level down to 4% for the first time yesterday(it asked about charging stations at 5%), and was wondering what happens when you run out. And also wondered if doing it effects health by much, or at all. Crickey, is there a way to turn off electronic handbrake? other than charging the car a bit.
@DeafeningSounds
@DeafeningSounds Жыл бұрын
Nope , there is no manual override. Car will need to be charged to release it. Kinda silly that it can’t be done without the motor “on”
@Retiredkiwi
@Retiredkiwi Жыл бұрын
@@DeafeningSounds Sure is a stupid arrangement, guess if it happens i will fire up the 2.1kw(1.7) electric start Dometic genny i just bought, which is going to live in the boot. Weighs 26kg plus fuel, so a bit of a pain, and slow charging at 6 amp setting, but better than being totally stuck. I do have a 12v 325ah lifepo4 battery, so debated using a 2kw inverter and it instead, but the brand new Genny was $1/3 normal retail price, so grabbed it.
@ElectricMikeEV
@ElectricMikeEV Жыл бұрын
Probably woke the cells Up a bit 😁
@SmoothOperator412
@SmoothOperator412 Жыл бұрын
Happy to see Alex on here!!
@dangrass
@dangrass Жыл бұрын
my 2001 Corvette used to get 6 mpg on the track....and about 30 mpg on the highway. So, 5x the highway consumption.. The Leaf did relatively better. My 2019 Tesla Model 3 LRDM uses about 320 kw/m at 90...versus about 245 at 70 MPH.
@tonyspencer692
@tonyspencer692 5 ай бұрын
Great test, very entertaining.
@vanessamonster5038
@vanessamonster5038 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@egl8983
@egl8983 Жыл бұрын
As you increase speed, you are also fighting aerodynamic drag. This drag increases as the square of velocity. So doubling your speed from from 45mph to 90 mph increases aerodynamic drag by 4 times. This is true for ICE cars as well as electric.
@progamerkiller64
@progamerkiller64 Жыл бұрын
I have seen this in Kenya my frist time in the airport last 2021 and still see them I really drive this car :D...
@ThePowerJon
@ThePowerJon Жыл бұрын
Great video, loads of laugh 😆
@mattt198654321
@mattt198654321 Жыл бұрын
My 2018 leaf with 12 bars of battery made it only 34 miles in -15f (-26c) on a full charge. The colder it is, the exponentially shorter the range gets.
@mys0076
@mys0076 Жыл бұрын
So damn good to see you guys ! Happy holidays🌲Only the other Alex is missin, my middle name is also Alex, too many damn Alex's😂
@stevieb9699
@stevieb9699 Жыл бұрын
What a pair you two are, that was comedy gold.
@MegaBbqbbq
@MegaBbqbbq Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this in a Tesla, Rivian or any of the other newer EVs.
@sir__vasilis
@sir__vasilis Жыл бұрын
Rory and Alex! I NEED more! Awesome!
@somerandomfella
@somerandomfella Жыл бұрын
If Mat Watson ever needed a crazy Brit replacement, Alex is the man 🤣
@SandyToesDetecting
@SandyToesDetecting Жыл бұрын
How can you tell what battery is installed in the leaf ?
@pwatom22
@pwatom22 Жыл бұрын
We need the rest of the test. Recharge and assess battery degradation, if any ? Repeat test through 2 more cycles. If battery shows minimal/zero degradation then major 👏👏👏
@nevarran
@nevarran Жыл бұрын
Hey, what's this cliffhanger? Is Rory still on that test rack with his Leaf waiting for the handbrake to release?
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