Avalon Airshow 2015 - Part 2

Avalon Airshow 2015 - Part 2
Ok, So two thing's on this. First Sorry for this upload being almost half a year after the event, Lost the video files on an old external HDD.
Secondly there is no rendering issue here, The only camera I could get at the time was a Sony handicam, Pal format so only 25fps with a maximum resolution of 720i. I did what I could to clean up the video but its the best I could do. For future airshow videos I think I'll be looking into a 1080p 30/60fps camera. Regardless, I hope you enjoy!
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Outro music: The 126ers - Wish You'd Come True

[@Bwrapable]

Back when i was a kid i was lucky enough to be allowed to ride in the Hudson bomber (At that time it was the only one flying in the world, not sure if that's changed at all). to this day its the only plane i have ever ridden in. was one of the greatest experiences I have ever had. Sure is nice to see it still going, thanks Magz!

[@MagzGTV]

+FinalExit Still only one Hudson flying, The Meteor in the video is also the only F.8 still flying.

[@Cinnabun]

He162? that glider is a fucking Jet Ta-152 holy shit, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen. I want one.

[@jameshoare6531]

From christchurch NZ, we had our very own air show right after the earthquake happened. Got back from school after about 4 hours travel through the flooded and destroyed city, on a route that normally takes 20 mins, to watch from the port hills an orion and another four engined plane possibly a hercules flying around. And then the next day LAV's turned up at my local school with water.

[@Mcmildew]

Nothing like finishing morning PT to find a magz video, post throwing up workout breakfast just got a lot better

[@pezz_pezzer]

fine looking lad you got there Magz...I remember my first air show with my first son at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland, SUPER fun and the look on the young ones eyes when the F16s and F18 were doing their demos was worth the sun burn I got that day...plus the flyby with the B2, B1B, F117 and a F22 was pretty much one of those wow moments...my favorite? the bloody Spitfires, Mustangs and other WW2 warbirds that were there...good stuff!

[@pezz_pezzer]

+Pez Pezzer oh one more thing Magz, I'm sure you have heard this somewhere before but enjoy them at those ages while you can...they grow up WAY too fast good sir....just a fair warning :)

[@bosee_]

I am pretty sure I went to one of these, or another airshow down here in Adelaide. But this was over 4-6 years ago. I really need to go again as my knowledge and passion for planes, especially war planes has increased massively lol. I used to probably just be like, cool plane, sounds loud = nice.

[@1969DodgeChargers]

Looks like quite a few of the WWI airplanes had original engines, I love how all the pistons rotate with the propeller.

[@JamesRT1291]

Hey Magz, take it directly from a USAF member, recently turned vet. Most likely the reason why the RAAF does have it is because the F-16 engine gives out at all and the pilot can't restart the engine quick enough, the jet turns into the worlds biggest lawn dart. This is a grip in the USAF right now.

[@DeltaJ26]

I got chills all over my back when I saw the PBY take off, so awesome! :D Your son looks cute af btw XD

[@kingslayer2]

missed the night time bro worth it huge explosions and they set off a c-130's flares 2 years ago. had it come in from another airport running dark and just drop flares best thing i have ever seen

[@Eazy3129]

I love air shows!

[@rattlehead890]

Totally agree, air shows make for a great experience. Maybe one you should consider (money allowing) is the Reno Air Races in Reno, Nevada (USA). I am living in Europe but I try and get there every year, its totally amazing to see air racing for real (not that Red Bull stuff). There are many classes the Unlimited Class being the top where you get to see highly modified P-51's racing Bearcats and Sea Furies, its truly awesome. Sadly I can't make it this year due to work commitments but I will be there next year come what may!

[@soulflare381]

18:25 Badass shot there of P-3C Orion, love that plane, hope the Royal Navy get some eventually, if not the P-8 Poseidon.

[@jakk8218]

I have to say, that Cat is from my local air park/ museum, one hell of an aircraft, and I've actually been able to sit in her.

[@jengar6258]

Fantastic bit on the WWI planes man, loved the Fokker DR I's ;)

[@Ukranianolo]

@MagzTV The idea of drones without pilots is that it eliminates the factor of a human casualty if the drone gets shot down or crashes

[@VraccasVII]

I used to live near Rose Barracks/Grafenwöhr in Germany. Every day at 4pm a about fur to six heavy bombers flew low over our neighborhood. It was glorious!

[@vincehumphries6325]

Magz, cool videos. Thanks.

[@nickcahill8156]

the global hawk is much bigger in person. saw one at an airshow in Massachusetts USA. Also saw a C-5 Galaxy which is gigantic

[@mish165]

Oh hey magz was in Victoria, shout out from Melbourne!

[@razielrabner4066]

Omg Magz you would put the boomerang as the intro footage! :P

[@soulflare381]

Hey Magz, if you ever come to the UK, go to the Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford, it's an absolutely amazing show, and you can even see aerobatic teams from other countries, not just Britain, I've been there 4 times and I highly recommend it.

[@ironbark1822]

Great video Magz. That Caribou was awesome. At the Bicentenary airshow in Richmond they had one do a pass down the runway with only the nose gear touching the ground. I wonder if ti was the same aircraft?.

[@_YellovvJacket_]

Mh sadly I haven't been to an airshow since I was 6...I'd wish I was there, sadly Australia is a bit too far away to 'quickly go there' to watch the Avalon Airshow :). Sadly there aren't really any airshows near my hometown.

[@asherjk]

Did you catch the WWI/WWII infantry re-enactors? The WWII guys put on a mock battle between a British squad supported by a Bren Gun Carrier (I think?) and a German squad supported by a Stug. It was awesome.

[@PL4GU3d]

+The Man They Call Asher yeah I only saw the end of the stug battle but it was pretty cool hey?

[@MagzGTV]

+The Man They Call Asher Sadly no, That was happening during some of the Air displays that I wanted to see. Couldn't be in two places at once so I chose the planes.

[@Ukranianolo]

+MagzTV The idea of drones without pilots is that it eliminates the factor of a human casualty if the drone gets shot down or crashes

[@MagzGTV]

Ukranianolo Yes I know, It also puts the control of some of the most powerful weapons ever created in the hands of a computer that has no feelings, emotions or true capacity to think on its own. It just has programming, Programming that can be flawed. Do a little research on how many civilians have been killed in active war zones since drones where rolled out, Keep in mind that the number was so high that the US reclassified the term combatant to every person over the age of 14 within its war zones so they would no longer have to report civilian deaths. Now take another look at the global hawk and realize that a drone that size would be able to carry a small nuclear weapon. I like to think of myself as a pretty modern guy into the latest tech but I think I'll take the well trained pilot over the computer that has a habit of hitting weddings with air to ground missiles thanks.

[@MagzGTV]

***** A pilot can directly control modern drones however modern drones are also able to act autonomously. The Global hawk is able to take off, land and fly a pre-programmed route, Identify targets, Divert from its programmed route to engage in surveillance before returning and it is able to do all of this without a pilot involved. Predator drones can also maintain flight, Target and attack identified targets without a human in control if set to do so although I believe they still need a human pilot to take off and land however I could be wrong there.

[@Olympia497]

Its bloody 5:40 A.M., and i just realized i watched 8 episodes of game of thrones straight......... i have a problem. glad its up tho.

[@bagofsunshine3916]

+Olympia497 what episode r u at?

[@MrDeath2094]

Magz what you called the Globalhawk was in fact a Triton UAV, its the naval version of the Globalhawk. There was a globalhawk there but it was parked behined two F22s also those kids were RAAF Cadets (i think i was behined the canberra at the time you were filming it)

[@MagzGTV]

+Aussie_Mofo No it's a GlobalHawk, Its just painted in Naval colors. Look at the leading section of the wing. The give away is the Triton has reinforcements at the wing root that make it bulkier than the GH along with a de-icing rail that runs the length of the wing. The Globalhawk lacks both the visible differences.

[@jared3164]

Magz, if you ever come to America, catch a Thunderbirds show, they are amazing. The Blue Angels are good, but the F-16s are way more appealing.

[@leandro9311]

The Global Hawk is intend to remain in air for more then 24 hours, its ridiculously dificult to sustain a pilot for such long time and at such altitude, also the Global Hawk can read the letters in a pencil from 20 km in the air

[@MagzGTV]

+Leandro Ribeiro I now what it can do. I also know its designed so it's possible to arm it. It's an amazing drone, I just don't like military drones.

[@leandro9311]

I understand, the future of drones is very scary to say at least

[@leandro9311]

And that isnt realy a Global Hawk but a Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton, intend for maritime surveilance, its a version so doesnt matter that much

[@ValkyrieLightwing]

wow. the Canberra is really small, its not wonder why its so nimble in War Thunder. what a lovely aircraft

[@shadowtrooper001]

I totally agree... and I thank Magz for that part of the vid I got a picture at a distance at an airbase... wish I could show you... but you know now how small of an aircraft it is XD. May have overdid my comment.

[@aaron135]

Magz, when u get your internet back, can you fly out the premium hellcat Mk1 in the British tree... I got it but it is difficult to use, as it can turn, BnZ and perform at all altitudes!

[@ascadorcern6106]

a catalina not breaking its wings?? must be fake nice vid magz, keep up the good work

[@dandyyak4625]

Hey Magz, I was wondering if you have ever been to New Zealand? We only have one airshow every two years for the whole country, but it's pretty good. Last time I went they had some Vampires and another jet that don't remember pylon racing.

[@swayingGrass]

The best part of UAV is that incase it's shot down no pilot is inside. Also the pilot can go to toilet and ask other guy to fly it. The bad thing is, there's no stopping big, rich countries from going to war.

[@swayingGrass]

+Indra Ida Bagus Oh yeah, no Russian/Soviet planes?

[@hughjass5156]

That global hawk is currently in the process of putting my airframe from my time in the service (EP-3 ARIES II) out of business. Its honestly more practical in every way for the mission it executes, but its also a bit odd and unsettling that the machine that helped make me who i am today will be nothing but a memory soon, replaced by a cold lifeless robot thats flown and crewed by people with XBOX controllers. I wonder if theyll let them wear gold wings on their chest... The selfish nostalgia in me hopes not...

[@PL4GU3d]

dude i was literally right next to you there standing behind that caribou and neptune

[@PL4GU3d]

***** no, I only subbed last week but watching this vid I realised he was literally right next to where i was standing at the time he was filming.

[@Ottuln]

I need to go up to the air force base near me and take some video. They have an SR-71 on display, as well as some other, less incredible planes. (SR-71 is my personal favorite since age 8, so all other planes are less incredible ; D )

[@oli7593]

Which air base/museum?

[@Ottuln]

Hill in Utah. www.hill.af.mil/library/museum/

[@bosee_]

Magz, do you think gaijin will include (whether at the start or after a while) an Australian tank as possibly a premium for the British like the Boomerang? e.g. the AC-1 cruiser.

[@Donari]

when the f35 hype comes here?? i liked his arguments

[@Madkeen6]

Did u get to see the whole ADF display magz? First air show I've been to and thoroughly enjoyed it. Probably explains my 10gbs of video footage....

[@PL4GU3d]

+Madkeen6 lol same here and he did there was footage of it with the 2 f18's circling and the massive props (not caribou or catalina) and the f18's refuelling during the adf display.

[@difficultinterest1582]

what was the Neptune used for again other than ASW and the black cat is Aussie right

[@tylerrose5232]

Does Magz have a chat room in WT?!

[@TheDrummingWarrior]

1:50 is that a meteor with external fuel tanks?

[@nickcahill8156]

+RAF Benson (the person)! yes

[@ovennoneya8777]

is that your son near the fence magz in 5:36 of the video

[@Yeerosmaster]

If its a "Viper", isn't a F2A?

[@jazza1294]

the starting music makes the video :D

[@MrEp1kk]

Great vid mags can't wait to see more airshow vids :D So was the F-16 privately owned? or some form of enemy simulation aircraft for the RAAF ?

[@soulflare381]

+MrEp1kk I think it was owned by a another nation who came to visit, that often happens at any military airshow.

[@MagzGTV]

+MrEp1kk The one in the video was a USAF F-16 flown over from the states along with a couple of other aircraft.

[@MrEp1kk]

Great thanks Magz. An airshow assignment would be sought after assignment in armed forces no? specially in a foreign country

[@soulflare381]

MagzTV Wow I can't believe the USAF would send an F-16 all the way to Australia especially since it would have been easier for somewhere like Singapore to send over an F-16.

[@MagzGTV]

There where also two F-22's on the ground and a B-52. Sadly I wasn't able to get over to see them.

[@xXgaminfoolXx]

I'm gonna say that either Magz or Miss Magz is a blonde due to Magz Jr being a blonde

[@foot8sativa]

where are the ww1 biplanes based normally, couple of them looked like the ones based over here in nz

[@MagzGTV]

+foot8sativa They are, At 12:57 I mention the Vintage Aviators, they are the historical group that brought them over from NZ for the airshow. This collection of WWI aircraft was supplied by several different historical aviation groups. It was impressive.

[@foot8sativa]

+MagzTV ahhh totally missed that part, thought so, we have the Vintage Aviators based here in Masterton.

[@willj.9145]

I'm curious Magz, do you ever get the RAF at airshows over there?

[@soulflare381]

+Will J. Unlikely as it's so far away, but the Red Arrows have visited Australia a couple times before.

[@joephish9075]

Do I hear Rise of Flight beckoning?

[@MagzGTV]

+Joe Phish maybe :P

[@venomousbook]

Hey magz you should come to ducksford and try and get jingles to come with i know that would be a hell of a trip for you but to see you and jingles at an air show would be cool

[@joeclone345]

noice

[@brodyroper8288]

+alpha penquin wow quick reply

[@jordanc5714]

I wish i knew what you looked like be then i would have asked for an autograph from you. do you go every 2 years i do

[@jordanc5714]

+jordan c Back not be*

[@Telsion]

Magz, how you know if music is copyrighted?

[@MagzGTV]

+Telsion If it has ever been on the radio or on a movie, It's held under copyright. Actually all music is held under copyright, but if its ever been on radio or in a movie you will get a Strike on KZbin for it.

[@Telsion]

MagzTV and you can ask to people if you are allowed to use it in your vid, even tho it is copyrighted right?

[@MagzGTV]

You can ask, but the the holder is Sony or one of the large labels (They usually are) Don't expect a response.

[@Telsion]

MagzTV well, think if +Squire would threat em with his service revolver...

[@glad_wrap_ftw4250]

Went to this cause of cadets

[@solreaver83]

loved the caribou. rember seeing them fly around Amberly when they were still in service. scontent.fadl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1931104_33837035818_880_n.jpg?oh=842245f0910eee1e38e6204148515cd6&oe=566CB1BB this was the year they went out of service. beautifulu plane and god the roar of those engines. defening when inside it in flight. Would love to see the neptude added in game for britain as premium perhapse researchable for the USA

[@solreaver83]

@MagzTV they didnt get f16 because they are too single role and incompatable with the air sea gap defense plane of Australia

[@leandro9311]

+solreaver83 Australia mainly uses the Air Force for nacional porposes, the F-16 is great doing that, they aremulti-role fighters, very good but the Australians just want F-35s, expensive but very very good aircraft and they can afford them

[@solreaver83]

The RAAF primary role is for the defence of Australia. Up until the purchase of the f-35 purchasing a plane had to meet a high level of multi purpose roles. it needed long range the ability to strike with heavy multi role payloads and a high survivability estimation. f16 are too heavily single role and was the reason they were rejected when the raaf was introducing f-18's. This is a whole module in the RAAF officer qualifications.

[@leandro9311]

The F-16 can do all that, maybe not in 1 single F-16 but lets say you want to bombard someone, 1 F-16 can carry 4 GBU or JDAMs and 2 Sidewinder wile a 2ª F-16 carrys 4 AMRAAM and 2 Sidewinder

[@leandro9311]

And it haves relativly advanced avionics

[@Woofdeath13]

You can't see the point of having no pilot in warplanes because of low large they are? I can't see the point OF having a pilot. With the removal of pilots from planes we remove a limiting factor in both duration and durability. Pilots on the ground don't have to land to change personnel and don't have to deal with super high g's that can be dangerous to someone. This means planes can last longer with higher performance.

[@MagzGTV]

+Woofdeath13 Indeed, It also means that there is no longer a person between the military officials ordering attacks and the people dieing. For examples of how this is a problem do a little reading into how many civilian weddings and gatherings have been struck by drones killing thousands of non combatants in the middle east. Why are they not reported? Well according to US rules of engagement in the middle east every non child is considered to be a combatant so when they accidentally hit a wedding with a air ground missile they don't need to report civilian deaths. Having a human in the cockpit tends to act as a buffer for such things as in most cases a pilot will double check its target before going weapons free, Drones will just fire killing what every they are told too, Regardless of if its a terrorist gathering or a mothers club meeting. I would rather a sky filled with inefficient pilots than efficient drones.

[@Woofdeath13]

MagzTV I'm not knowledgeable enough in politics to debate that. Id expect drones to have people sitting behind the controls, someone has to input what its supposed to do. I guess until its regulated more its as shady as you say.

[@MagzGTV]

***** There are people behind the controls but the drones hunt targets autonomously. To describe it, Lets take a look at a wedding, A large group of people gathered in a small area, generally loud and gathered around an alter or stage area. Compare that to any military or rebel gatherings, A large group of people gathered in a small area, generally loud and gathered around a pedestal or stage area. When a human pilot is hunting for targets to attack and sees a wedding he can identify it as a wedding and will continue his sweep being aware that the wedding is not a threat. (U.S. pilots have been known to perform small aerobatic maneuvers over weddings as a gift to the lucky couple, A mini airshow). The drone on the other hand sees a large group of people gathered in a small area around an alter or stage and it fits the programmed perimeters of a military target, it will then automatically lock ground attack ordnance on the target before requesting permission of its operator to attack. It chills my heart to know a predator drone was flown over the states in 2013, Unarmed but set to sweep for targets as a test of its programming. It identified Kindergartens, Junior high-schools, Collages, and Hospitals as well as weddings, churches and sporting events ranging from children's little league events to major league baseball events all as being military targets,

[@Woofdeath13]

MagzTV I have mixed feelings about it. Being broad to find anything that isn't calm isn't a bad thing in itself. Im sure a drone pilot gets the same punishment for killing kids as a normal one does. Not knowing how serious a task lock on is it could be a simple task for the drone like loading a program is to a normal computer. If its not affecting performance tracking that thing why not track it.

[@MagzGTV]

***** My feelings are very unmixed on this. If the drones programming can't tell the difference between a school full of children and a hostile force then drones are not ready to be armed and used in a shooting war.