Avatar 2 hits $1 Billion in 12 Days! Is Margot Robbie to blame for Babylon Box Office Flop?

[@BeyondTheTrailer]

Please note - the official tally is 14 days because while it did hit the mark on Tuesday (the day of this stream) it opened overseas a few days earlier.

[@PapiBocaChula]

Well when you look at History, the Media does not hold Babylon in High Esteem, I wonder Why?? Could It be because of The Epic of Gilgamesh? and who Gilgamesh was on a quest to go kill? A certain Being that cause a Great Flood, and Gilgamesh will have his revenge on those who helped This Other Worldly Being Cause the Great Flood!!!

[@alantes]

Quite frankly, I am EXTREMELY disappointed in your content of late. What is going on with you? You haven’t released a HENRY CAVILL hate video for the past 48 hrs. You’re alienating your core audience. Please remind yourself of your priorities and what built your channel. MORE CAVILL HATE!

[@dannyo5364]

I feel vindicated being an Avatar stan since 2009 😀

[@bt11oc]

You are trash

[@SpyingMeter087]

Good

[@sonicsnake44]

Same here never bet against Cameron

[@elephantello1518]

Same here bro. Im Cameron we trust

[@nationalsocialism3504]

Why??? It's still a terrible story with amazingly beautiful visuals.

[@heiress.]

The ‘Avatar has no cultural impact’ crowd has been real quiet lately 💀

[@tronam]

I’m just happy we’ll get to see the whole quadrilogy. 😊

[@johndolores315]

Yes so excited

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

I don't think it does either, but the movies are damn good!

[@ironfox4990]

Depends on the culture though, in geek culture not at all but in general culture yes.

[@mike4539]

Weirdly they actually haven’t been.. Some people are literally delusional and think these box office results are made up by Disney

[@CHarr1991]

Saw avatar 2 again at 10am IMAX and it was crowded. I loveeeeee seeing a movie theater be captivated!!!!! You can tell people just wanna experience what James Cameron made for themselves. Viva Pandora!! My friend was floored and said the movie felt “magical” …kudos Cameron.

[@erenjaeger1738]

I saw it last week there were some people like groups. But crowded, nah. I might watch it tomorrow in imax I'll see how it'll go

[@tobz475]

This is my 3rd ride, bring me back to pandora.

[@aryansingh-zc8wb]

are you from America?

[@nailinthefashion]

This is a really cute, wholesome comment

[@wheelstoadventure]

Babylon was everywhere???? where I never saw a trailer on regular TV for it. I didn’t see a trailer pop up in my KZbin stream for this movie. all I’ve ever heard was people talking about it so maybe it was advertised in LA and New York but I don’t know, I never saw it. I didn’t even know it was about Hollywood until I watch your stream!

[@lalareal180]

People watch regular tv? lmao

[@mrvic9395]

Am glad that you said not to worry about being a member but we can subscribe and comment here. Plus thanks for all the hard work that you do.

[@Neverhadachance05]

All those trolls claiming Avatar would bomb look like 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@mastersidearms3199]

A certain "critic who is a cynic" called Avatar 2 "a waste of time". Which tells you all you need to know. And on the shows today (Tuesday), there is more goal post moving with the Avatar Box Office than the entire Cleveland Browns franchise history.

[@shredderSupreme91]

I’ve been an Avatar & James Cameron fanboy since the very beginning. I never understood the hate for this movie and tried to tell people so many times that this one was going to be amazing and make tons of money as well. At this point there is absolutely no way you can underestimate James Cameron when it comes to films he directs. The man is from another realm

[@shykur]

He’s on old schooler and his attitude of being a straight shooter shows. That generation were always straight to the point.

[@reynelsonalbarran113]

Avatar definitely is a true movie going experience. Loved it

[@johndean4727]

its stupid.

[@aryansingh-zc8wb]

i watched it 2 times enjoyed a lot

[@piusdoe8984]

Well there is a reason ppl are saying the story isn't the strongest. It's the same as the first one but dividing the story beats to his family.

[@v1deo.hunter.d317]

Some people have mentioned Avatar lagging in Japan, that is only because its up against two very big local films and it will get all the avatar fans in over the course of the next weeks

[@v1deo.hunter.d317]

@@rrando726 Can't take on Mokoto Shinkai and Slam Dunk and expect to do great

[@benrualf]

People keep bringing Florence up as if her movies weren't big flops this year both comercially and with the critics

[@ebert311]

Let's see...Puss N Boots (voice only), The Wonder and Don't Worry Darling both were 6 out of 10 movies on IMDB. So they are not world breaking movies. I like Florence as an actress but she's still not mainstream yet.

[@ebert311]

@sae I agree. We had this discussion in another stream. Actresses who are in horror movies or indy movies grow in popularity. But that growth takes time and alot of luck. Pugh has had some good luck, but it could flip on her. I still like her as an actress. But for her roles beyond Little Women.

[@trentc7329]

Margot Robbie is paying for forgetting to send Grace a Christmas card.

[@johntuya5474]

Yeah lol weird how she’s singling out Robbie when this is brad pitts movie. His movies haven’t been doing well for a while now.

[@poett8875]

@@johntuya5474 facts. I don’t understand why Robbie’s getting all this heat when she didn’t do anything.

[@PurushaDesa]

The Kate Winslet thing is a nothingburger🍔. Grace's barometer for what is and is not offensive is usually a little off anyway.

[@ClintbordersGOD]

Thank you for bringing back comic reviews 🙏. I've been buying about 75% less since the Google payment issue (and the Comixology redesign,) so getting recommendations from you helps 👍.

[@jaygarcia8508]

Most headlines I read about this movie are that "Margot Robbie's new movie bombed" or "Another bomb or setback for Margot Robbie" like they're persistent that it's her fault the film bombed. You never hear "Brad Pitt's new movie bombed " it's mostly always the female lead that takes the bullet for a film performing poorly at the boxoffice. Just saying...🤔🤔🤔🤨

[@Aussie27Legend]

bingo, suddenly went from a pitt vehicle to a robbie one real fast

[@TheThirdPew]

I disagree Grace, only reason Star Wars and Marvel got fatigue is cause they came out every year and seemingly never end. Especially with disney+ content now. If Avatar 3-5 come out once every 2 years and then the story ends there for now, I think it'll be fine especially if the movies get even better.

[@sunnysied713]

You can't watch thirty movies over fifteen years and NOT eventually find the franchises to be STALE and boring.

[@nms7872]

What a surprise to see the king here. World's biggest avatar Stan.

[@user-fp4dr1ne7z]

Your box office breakdowns and movie math has been one of my favorite things to watch on YT! Thanks for the great commentary and insights!

[@mos8575]

No Margot’s not to blame For Anything! Ever!

[@henner777]

Having had a soft spot for Margot Robbie since I watched her in Neighbours back in the day, I do think she does have amazing charisma. She is likeable in a role that works more on her down to earth charm and she did well to stand out with the script Neighbours were giving her, at the time. I am just all fingers cross Barbie does well as this will redeem her as a a lead actress.

[@haro2830]

“It looked like you were going to be the only sober person at a really wild party” - so accurate.

[@j2174]

Grace: “This was advertised correctly.” Also Grace: “When they had the premier, it was all over, ALL OVER Twitter.” Twitter isn’t the real world. Most people are not on it. And the people that are, mostly live in an echo chamber.

[@jacobfleming3926]

I love these livestreams and your videos. I look forward to movie math every week, your personality is just so fun

[@craigo5030]

The complaints with regards to either the ‘all white’ cast or Kate Winslet is quite ridiculous! First off, the Aliens are played by people of many different backgrounds, no one has an issue with Zoe’s or Cliffs performance but for some reason Kate W gets called out cause she is ‘white’? 1. The cast is very diverse, look at the amount of diversity, there is absolutely no issue there 2. The aliens are INSPIRED by people on earth and how they’re treated by others but they are NOT people on earth, they are aliens, they are BLUE aliens. If actors offer great performances and chemistry that’s what you want and I feel all the actors do that! The fact that certain people from indigenous groups asked James Cameron to help and they have also enjoyed what he has done, so many people are speaking out on behalf of them rather than accepting that some are against it and some are for it, everyone else should not have an issue on it!

[@mosesoftheblock2311]

The complaint against Winslet is more to do with her forced accent. Its like having a white actor in brownface but its blue. Remember Vasquez from Aliens? White actor in brownface.

[@mosesoftheblock2311]

Also, it is not realy appropriate to tell marginalized group of people how they should feel about their attempted portrayal in movies. It says a lot about your intentions as a human being. Try the path of empathy and compassion.

[@benrualf]

The boys and Babylon are exactly the same. The problem was the targeted audience. People that watch award movies don't usually praise shows like the boys

[@YaraMay20]

I don’t think Florence Pugh ever starred in a movie that was huge box office succes tho? I mean where did The Wonder go where everyone thought she would get Oscar nominated for. Haven’t heard anyone talk about that movie.

[@nms7872]

Little women did very well

[@nataliajimenez1870]

Little Women has been her biggest movie outside Black Widow but many of her other movies have had small budgets so they haven't lost money, including DWD

[@nikidon99]

Don't work daring made more than twice it's budget. Florence> Margo

[@hmw4166]

But the difference is, Florence Pugh has way less box office and review bombs than Margot Robbie. And Pugh doesn't produce her own movies, Robbie does. So Pugh is less exposed, and less responsible for movies' failure. However, Margot Robbie proves Too many times she is just being incapable

[@MsTriangle]

That success is on Chalamet, not on Pugh.

[@Itzy91]

51:57 "Halle Berry? Where is Halle Berry? Keira Knightly. Where is Keira Knightly? You guys are giving me a long list of people who don't work." LMAO!

[@kamssun]

Grace: I agree with your decision of not sitting through Babylon. I did and it’s 3 hours I will never get back.

[@Amplamente]

As a Disney executive, you have to be completely insane NOT to greenlight Avatar 4 and 5 based on A2's numbers. A2 has grossed more than ANY Marvel movie since Endgame (2019!) and is on track for $2 billion. Movie 3 could very well surpass those numbers. How can you NOT greenlight the last 2 movies? Marvel is clearly on a downward trajectory, Disney needs this franchise more than ever, they simply cannot afford to lose James Cameron to another studio, he owns the IP.

[@phoenixforce6595]

I don't think Marvel is on a downed path. Its had a dip but I wouldn't say its going downhill. You have to remember that the last few Marvel movies didn't open in China so to pass 800 million is an impressive feat considering they didn't open in China. Avatar did open in China.

[@nailinthefashion]

@@phoenixforce6595 they're also becoming more experimental instead of formulaic. Love and Thunder and Wakanda Forever are two of their most unique films so far. I don't expect everything in this phase to perform well, nor do they

[@nailinthefashion]

It depends on the narrative strength of 3. If he can tie a neat bow, there's no need for 4 and 5. If he feels itchy, like there's more that needs to be said, he should be trusted to tell the story well. Where the problem comes in, is if they'll be too greedy. Will 4 and 5 get too much pressure to come out fast instead of letting him do his thing? If 4 gets rushed then 5 is doomed. There's a lot to consider, but, I agree with you. I think he should be free to do literally anything he wants, timelines and schedules be damned. He is clearly a visionary, way more talented than most, and needs to be free to convey what is needed not what is wanted

[@icarus8471]

I think Grace's therapist has demanded that she never mention Jennifer Lawrence ever again for her own mental health.

[@quadrayfield271]

Is it that people don’t like Margot’s Harley or you don’t grace?

[@rodrilover17]

I haven’t seen anyone blame Babylon’s failure on Margot Robbie, aside from you. Most of the articles I’ve read blame it on the terrible marketing campaign, and other factors. I know this isn’t great for her, but I don’t think anyone is solely or primarily blaming her for this or for Amsterdam.

[@redlightmax]

Being in two bombs, critically and commercially, in one year is gonna hurt Margot Robbie though - the stench is on her.

[@jayj4408]

Real talk is Florence a big star because she does not feel like one tbh if not for her Mcu stuff and the drama with Olivia i dont think the majority of ppl would even know who she is lol.

[@jaimebergner]

Why single out Robbie in the headline of this video when Brad Pitt is also starring in this movie?

[@kthanna08]

When Grace says that advertising was everywhere and then says it was all over Twitter. I’m not on Twitter. There wasn’t much advertising in my life.

[@kimjackelen3856]

She lives in a Twitter bubble. It skews her reality a lot.

[@shivamsomani57]

An avatar in the dessert like dune could be interesting

[@emanuelsosa8]

Or in an ice world

[@erenjaeger1738]

So true.

[@tobz475]

Tundra or Volcanic biome could be more interesting, atleast no one will say copy of Dune.

[@emachanworlds]

maybe that desert could be Future Earth dying in Avatar 5

[@brodierule5373]

I wouldn’t blame Robbie for Amsterdam or Babylon, on paper those are two huge films from very respected directors that are very interesting ORIGINAL stories, that we’re guaranteed theatrical releases: basically, types of films that simply don’t exist anymore. And you can see why: Hollywood trained it’s audience over the pandemic to relay strictly on the IV drip of franchises and Netflix content, and now any sort of story that isn’t based on IP and that provokes the audience, has a intention other than sole entertainment value, is DOA. It’s really not hard to see. This movie would’ve been a huge success even as early as 2019 I would say.

[@jesscorletto4963]

I thought the same if the film came out before 2019 the film would've been more popular and received every award. I could go on but don't want to write an essay 😂.

[@jackvlahos407]

I hope she realizes most people don’t care if a movie does bad financially. Some of the best movies ever flop. Her whole argument for Babylon being bad is that it isn’t making money…and she’s never seen it and is trashing it, that’s what we call a biased movie critic

[@lillysf1819]

No. She's basing her comments on bad critic scores AND low box-office numbers as she said in the video.

[@jackvlahos407]

@@lillysf1819 critic reviews aren’t terrible they are just disappointing for a film of this level. She completely ignored the fact that there are lots of people who are calling it a masterpiece and multiple critics giving it a 100 on metacritc. Plus the box office doesn’t tell you if a movie is good or not. The Shawshank redemption flopped and is now considered an all time great

[@olivierchhuonbuntha1614]

The reason why international people love it is cuz they dont think the world revolves around them like SOME of the american complaning… not everything is about u, sometime it just about blue aliens

[@simplyrecommended]

If barbie doesnt do well Margot might want to follow the formula of Robert Patterson And go indie and show off her acting chops But she has done z for zachariah and the queen of Scott's

[@sharp52092]

Maybe a mini series.

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

She should go the premium streaming show. If she became a Sister of Battle in the 40K project, it would be a new look for her.

[@pb.j.1753]

*Pattinson

[@mrsam0496]

She has done indie. Her problem is audiences only love her as eye candy because she is very pretty. America doesnt support those actresses inserious roles. Halley Berrry and Sharon Stone had the same problem. Margot should try romcoms but she seems to be take her craft too seriously. She is top 5 really good young actresses

[@nationalsocialism3504]

@@blackmanwithcomputer does she get on with Henry Cavill or is friends with his girlfriend? Sisters would doubtfully be the first thing done anyways

[@jalabi99]

I'm really surprised that _Avatar 2_ made money at all since it cost so much to make. I also think it's entirely unfair to blame _Babylon_'s poor box office only on Margot Robbie - it wasn't a one-woman show.

[@ebert311]

In fact, can I double down and say that it is suspect that she is taking the fall for this movie? Is she the headliner? Nope. Brad Pitt is.

[@tronam]

I doubt it’s quite profitable yet, but we’re not even through the 2nd week. It was smart of them to write and shoot the trilogy all at once, so the enormous budget could be partially spread out over multiple movies.

[@Living_Matrix1]

I think you missed the point. Grace is not blaming Margot Robbie for the failure. She is discussing the implications of the failure for Margot Robbie.

[@tobz475]

A lot of asian countries love Avatar thats why its earn so much.

[@palmoart]

@@tobz475 Try Europe.

[@rafaelmanzo9497]

4:27 Grace replying with advice (to DannyBoyd's superchat re: breakup the day before X-mas) 4:38 Grace taking an honest second to stop herself, come back around, and ACKNOWLEDGE Danny's pain foremost. THIS IS WHY WE SUPPORT. 😭🙏🏽🙌🏽👑💙 So seldom will people envision what a hurting person is currently feeling. Everyone moves straight to advice. Good catch Grace.

[@nailinthefashion]

Imagine hating Grace hahahaha. She's such a gem of a human. I can't believe she's not at like 5 million subs-- she deserves anything she wants since she helps people realize they deserve better

[@ganasde65]

Love you grace and the conversation around female roles in film was very pertinent

[@Johnnyiswhere]

James Cameron has always been a straight shooter. He’s simply not going to edit himself for the comfort of other people. He’s from that generation.

[@Officialv5a]

I think the word you're looking for is "stubborn" or maybe "arrogant"

[@nationalsocialism3504]

@@Officialv5a I'd go with douchenozzle

[@sexydirrtymoney]

I'm going to my 5th Avatar show tonight and the 3rd in 3D! (I really like The Way of Water)

[@JohanDanielAlvarezSanchez]

Same here, I bought 3 tickets before even going to see the movie. I just wanted the 3d but the guy did good work with the story and feelings 👀

[@siogw2816]

I think avatar doesn’t do as well in the US compared to the rest of the world because it shows the Americans as the “bad guys”, meanwhile for us that’s kinda a plus 😅

[@samazwe]

I live in post colonial South Africa and yep! :)

[@tronam]

Avatar 2 is still outpacing the first film in the US, so it may yet do well. Next weekend should give us an idea of how much it’ll slow down.

[@Givemepeacealone]

What’s with Graces fans being all sappy with a “I’ve been a fan of this random newly resurfaced franchise since I was 1 week old and it’s amazing and the best thing ever and it’s gonna be the best thing and whoever questions it is a hater and a denier” like no bro maybe snyderverse and avatar just weren’t that good for some people

[@toppersoavi1626]

"People don't like Margot's Harley Quinn" Umm what? YOU don't like her, that doesn't mean everybody else or even the average person doesn't like her. Terrible take

[@rodrilover17]

If we’re being honest while I don’t think Margot is a huge draw, I also don’t think she’ll keep anyone away. She’s very neutral in a way at least for now which is good bc it’s easier to build yourself up from neutral than from bad or box office poison.

[@ebransc09]

To be fair, almost no one is a draw anymore

[@rodrilover17]

@@ebransc09 that’s very true. Especially in todays movie theater landscape.

[@jonsmith9838]

@@rodrilover17 I think there some that a draw but a draw in its an extra 20 million dollars or so. Not in it will make a shitty movie make a billion way. Hey and an extra 20-30 millions use to be not bad. But the bar of success seem higher now with all these billonar dollar movies and 200 million budgets

[@rodrilover17]

I’ve learned that when someone says “people don’t like…” or “everybody thinks…” it only means that they don’t like something or they think a certain way. It’s just their way of trying to hide their opinion amongst the invisible nonexistent masses. Just putting that out there.

[@UndergroundMonk]

I hope Kate Winslet gets an Oscar nomination to rub it in Grace’s face.

[@rickyevans124]

With all do respect how can you knock a movie you haven’t seen.? I love your reviews but this was harsh… you said you haven’t seen Babylon but then knocked it. I have went 3 times it’s fantastic

[@rickyevans124]

It was fantastic…. I can understand saying something is bad when actually seen all I’m saying is form an opinion once ACTUALLY watched…. You clearly have so I can accept you didn’t enjoy it….. but she said she didn’t so I don’t think she should be so critical of something she hasn’t seen

[@allymoeller5328]

For some reason I feel like it'll make 2 billion no problem, its all about what we're, as an audience, is limited to, nothing else is really in theaters to compete with such an experience, not just now but for the next serval weeks, let it be myself rewatching the film or word of mouth telling people to go experience it, plus, it's an actual must see movie event that doesn't come out too often, we, as an audience have been waiting for something this big to come out since endgame. I love no way home but it wasn't a technical impressive film, Top Gun was but its still just the same normal type of filmmaking we all see & love, Avatar is a must to experience in theaters that is on another level. It's been 13 years since we, as an audience as been to Pandora, 13 years of no other filmmaker even attempting something on this scale (thank you James Cameron) & I just feel as if The Way of Water is how Cameron probably saw this world in his head with this kind of VFX before the first Avatar, & this time I really felt why he wanted to make these films. Also, I know Avatar 3 & 4 will be expensive but it has gotta be much less than The Way of Water since Cameron already shot a lot of Avatar 3 & 4, I see The Way of Water's budget to also be a big part of 3 & 4, kinda how lord of rings & Matrix sequels were shot.

[@nailinthefashion]

Had they tried to split Wakanda Forever audiences then they'd have weirder numbers. This is the one movie that was gonna easily beat TG Maverick imo

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

Avatar 3 has the chance to very much elevate the storytelling of the series, based on how he said the next one will be morally complex. He's introducing a new Na'vi clan as new antagonists. Better spectacle with a more compelling narrative will blow this sequel out of the water. So Avatar 4 and 5 are gonna likely be greenlit.

[@redlightmax]

Forget being greenlit - Avatar 4 has already been partly filmed.

[@JohanDanielAlvarezSanchez]

@@redlightmax that's what amazes me about people. They start giving opinions without doing research. Avatar 2 and 3 are already done. The script and most production for the 4 and 5 is already done also. So, there is minimal effort and investment in finishing this series. There is just no way, that the next movies don't get done unless avatar 2 flops.... Like massively. And by how this seems, is going the other way around.

[@alisterfolson]

Watched Glass Onion. Good movie; I thought it really shined in the 2nd half.

[@tylerensminger]

I suppose you could blame Margot Robbie but she did get two award nominations.

[@ssshar2176]

So did The Tourist…

[@tronam]

I’m selfishly glad A2 is doing well. I want to see the sequels!

[@colt2523]

Yes yes yes!

[@matthewream1309]

I love this long live streams, it makes my drives from home to my college town so much more fun

[@TALEOFA]

Stop saying people don’t like her Harley Quinn because I’ve seen many online that do

[@sunnysied713]

Then those online people need to go and see the movies. Lol

[@TALEOFA]

@@sunnysied713 who say they don’t?

[@rl8259]

@@TALEOFA The box office proves that they don’t

[@TALEOFA]

@@rl8259 I don’t care about the box office doesn’t take away people don’t enjoy her as Harley Quinn

[@miguelfmyers]

I just feel like Babylon never told anyone what the movie was actually about , that was it’s biggest downfall. Modern marketing is failing films.

[@vincejester7558]

Pretty much the trailers promised Harley Quinn was gonna get nekkid and nasty.

[@michaeldeal3786]

I could not figure what Babylon was about lol

[@Atlasss97]

Avatar 2 has converted me from casually enjoying the franchise to loving it. I loved everything about the sequel except how long it was (but thats fine!). This is my og Star Wars trilogy

[@sharp52092]

So I'd say Avatar 3 is safe.

[@warizoh]

Avatar 3 was always safe, it’s 4 & 5 that depends on how 2 & 3 does.

[@cloud2451]

Avatar may not have geek culture, but it has general culture, which is when it’s mostly the general public and not the fanboys being excited about the movie. These great numbers are proof that gp is far more important

[@Dustviii]

As I said before as a Native American I am NOT offended by Kate's performance! Don't speak for Natives when YOU'RE NOT NATIVE YOURSELF! Don't speak for me or my people!

[@Dustviii]

@@rrando726 my people as in native people which I am! I speak for myself and as well but they are MY people!

[@sandal_thong8631]

I liked Margot Robbie in _I, Tonya._ But it was really frustrating that it was limited release in December and didn't go wide for so many weeks. Reminds me a bit of _Don't Look Up_ and _Glass Onion_ which were films I wanted to see in theaters, but missed.

[@Jprager]

I, Tonya was awesome, and I was wondering if anyone else had a problem getting to see that movie, I remember was coming home from college and in both my college and hometown there was literally no where near my locations that were screening the film

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@Jprager I guess that movie was just for the Academy members to see and not the general public.

[@YaraMay20]

Babylon may be a flop. But Margot Robbie will get another Oscar nomination for her acting. I am 100% sure of it. Not saying I agree with it but she already has been nominated for multiple awards for Babylon. So is it really a flop for her?

[@daddystackde]

Australia is huge. 28 million people and we’re consistently the top ten of box office earners

[@johndolores315]

I didn’t hear about this movie until I clicked on this video lol. It wasn’t advertised very well to people like who don’t go on twitter a lot. I didn’t even see the trailer in the cinemas, I didn’t see a lot of youtube videos about it like other big films like top gun maverick, marvel films, avatar. Not a lot of anticipation.

[@jonsmith9838]

also it was up again avatar 2

[@lindaarrigoni6737]

This is the second flop at the box office for Margot Robbie. I feel bad for her

[@vlackoz04]

I am latino, mexican specific, and i don't see no White saver , what i see is a protector father who is willing to do anything to keep his family safe. And i don't see how it is offensive that Kate portraits a native ALIEN, they are freaking ACTORS, they PLAY/PRETEND TO BE SOMEONE WHO THEY ARE NOT! is like when they bring a british, Canadian or australian actor to play a American character, should americans feel ofended that the actor is not american. Or ME ,i love Sicario and Del Toro IS NOT MEXICAN and he plays a MEXICAN CHARACTER, do i feel ofended, HELL NOOOOOO!!! I find this thing pretty stupid! Cliff is not a native american neither a blue alien, how does that doesn't trig you. People are SOOOOO DOUBLE STANDARD.

[@dgaubin]

Babylon is an excellent film, and Robbie was splendid. The correlation between box office performance and film quality is notoriously weak.

[@kellykelley2649]

hmmm I don't think Robbie is to blame. Brad Pitt is in this too. I am also thinking about Amsterdam - that had amazing actors in it as well - Christian Bale - and still failed to find an audience. As I posted yesterday (?) - film/art is subjective. Even success can be subjective. It's not always just about money. I like story more than beautiful - so Avatar is not for me. Money makes business run - so that is how success is being measured. I am just happy that there is still room for different kinds of movies.

[@Living_Matrix1]

You missed the point.

[@kellykelley2649]

@@Living_Matrix1 I was just sharing my opinion - which is mine. You don't have to agree or disagree - and what point? Am I supposed to like Avatar? I don't - that's ok it is doing fine. Or am I supposed to not like Margot R? I do like her but again - just my opinion.

[@pb.j.1753]

Commercial successes are not subjective. It's math. How much is invested into a film and how much it makes is the definition of success. Films are the most expensive art form so they HAVE TO make money.

[@pb.j.1753]

You can't make movies for long that don't make money. It's people's livelihood that are dependent on commercial successes. It's easy to emphasize the art (like you do) and call it subjective because you don't pay your bills with it.

[@kellykelley2649]

@@pb.j.1753 I am a script supervisor and editor - I have been in IATSE for 19 years and working in film for 23 - there are so many different types of budgets and film - blockbusters are not the only thing.. if you ever go to Canne and go tot he market - and see how many films world wide are made a year - for all platforms, budgets etc... If people only "lived" on blockbusters - we would not have an industry. This is my industry and my passion, and how I make a living. I think I can have an opinion on the subject.

[@Rodsuper]

My wife loved her as Harley Quinn. She did a great job.

[@thunderstruck5484]

Every time Cameron comes out with a new movie failure is predicated, I remember reading in the papers about Titanic with problems and cost overruns etc and then boom the same critics were wowed and stated that yes all that money was on the screen!

[@MichaelFormoso]

I love the "I don't condone that!" comment, with the adamant "Wink". I love Grace so much!

[@dev_London]

Watching her sometimes… she doesn’t know what she’s talking about. She ALWAYS blames Margot for everything and says people don’t like her as Harley Quinn… like bruh!! Every review, almost most fans; and most of the press have said multiple times Margot IS Harley Quinn even the creator said that himself!!!!! Also suicide squad opened up during Covid with a same day release on HBO max…. Like grace your bias is showing

[@mrnygren2]

Michelle Pfeiffer was robbed of her stand-alone Catwoman flick! Everybody wanted it.

[@amorra6024]

Great stream Grace! I really like the final segment with you recommending some of your current favorite comics, and I would love if you do another recommendation video in the future as I'm relatively new to reading American/Western graphic novels. I've never been as invested in American comics like I do now (as I prefer reading manga) since I started to follow the X-men Red storyline. I love most of the things they are doing with Storm, Magneto, and Sunspot in the current issues. And I am impatientily waiting for the Storm & the Brotherhood of Mutants miniseries that is to be released in 2023, which is connected to the Sins of Sinister comic event. Now, I'm planning on collecting any comics related to Hickman's HoX/PoX.

[@nailinthefashion]

Make time to read the recent Darkhold series! I have a feeling you'll get a kick out of em, and it's easy to jump into not knowing much.

[@mattymoo903]

Emma Stone wasn’t in Babylon, it was Samara Weaving.

[@DennisFutball2396]

I will never understand why studios think customers will pay to see a bad film just because an actor from an unrelated film that I liked many years ago is in it. Nope

[@mfal850]

the weather is still impacting going to the movies in some markets. i'm eager to go cause i think it's important to see in 3D and big screen...

[@undone14]

If Barbie is successful it’s because of the Barbie name. Just like Captain America is successful because of Captain America, not Chris Evans.

[@jamesblunt908]

No Way Home did so amazing and didn’t play in China. It made a billion so fast without China!

[@ziggystardust48]

Hello grace, I am from London England, UK. Love your show and just subscribed. Great content and film & tv comments.

[@CHarr1991]

I’m watching the playback, and the Margot robbie segment is SENDING ME 😅 so many funny elements…Grace talking about the Babylon elephant and golden shower scenes…shots thrown at Ad Astra and brads twilight career…she’s on a roll!

[@the_horror_fan]

My advice for Margot Robbie is STAY AWAY FROM ONE WORD MOVIES!

[@redlightmax]

Coming soon: Barbie.

[@CL12356]

Why are we putting all the blame on Margot and not Brad Pitt?

[@redlightmax]

27:10 "Films about Hollywood never do well." Counterpoint: Argo, The Artist, Birdman, Hugo, La La Land. Bad films about Hollywood never do well.

[@sandal_thong8631]

I liked _Hail Caesar_ but don't know how that did.

[@nickvtguitar546]

If Margot's to blame Brad is to blame.

[@shippendales8543]

I love Margot but I haven't really been interested in the sort of movie projects she has been choosing. The original TS was a hit The second whilst a better film premiered during the height of covid and HBO day and date releases ,it wasn't going to do well in theatres. Birds of prey wasn't great and was rejected by comic book fans but seems to have found some love on streaming. Amsterdam wasn't great and Babylon seems to be in the same boat. I think Barbie will be the real test for Margot. She needs truly great movies that bomb for people to say that in my opinion. The years of people simply watching a film because an actor they like are mostly over , the idea of the movie star has changed. They are truly very few Movie stars left.

[@austinmiller2520]

I find it interesting how all the blame is on Margot Robbie and not Brad Pitt or Tobey Maguire…

[@tikifreaky5204]

Right .. Brad Pitt …come on

[@FragileThings331]

After Sync was killed off in Generation X I waited so long for Marvel to bring him back I was losing hope. When it finally happened I was so happy.

[@camcom9000]

Grace, you DONT get to talk about this movie if you haven’t seen it! 26:35 simple as that!

[@allenmacias273]

I've seen Puss N Boots two times now, and I think I'll go see it a third time

[@Lucas-cz5to]

Jesus, watch avatar instead come on

[@allenmacias273]

@@Lucas-cz5to already did. I enjoyed puss n boots so much more

[@gamer38998]

The more Grace describes Babylon the more I want to see it! Wow, their marketers really did a disservice to the movie.

[@brandon17760]

I know right? Lol she was talking about it, I was like shit! Sign me up lol

[@redlightmax]

Hey, if you wanna buy a movie ticket to see an elephant taking a dump, more power to you - but I think that's a small demographic.

[@mr.fancypants666]

Old Hollywood was built on female stars,most were cast for their looks. But..there were many who got by on their talent alone (Bette Davis and Barbra Stanwyck come to mind) Many of the beautiful ones could also act( Grace Kelly, Ava Gardner). There are almost as many female movie stars today as there are male.Which is to say not many. When rom-coms were popular a few years ago there were more female stars. When superheroes and action films are popular, they're more male stars. Women have had equal to more power than men at different times in TV and movies.Liz Taylor and Lucille Ball spring to mind. Most male stars only make it later in life.Woman have a chance to break in much younger. Point being its equally hard for men to become stars.

[@samazwe]

I watched Double Indemnity (1944) recently and yeah...Barbara Stanwyck was one heck of a trailblazer in Hollywood, especially in film-noir

[@Macsouss]

I just went back from a projection 9pm-0am on tuesday (imax 3D original voices in France). It was full. Never seen that 2 weeks after release

[@juandiegoferreira889]

I mean like, america is not the only country in the world you know right grace? Nor is it 50% of the world. So in this epic movies you can't expect for 50% of the WORLD box office (WORLD, NOT JUST AMERICA. Yes Americans see more movies then the usual audience but this types of movie are worldwide events just like endgame). Babylon is a type of movie that centers around Hollywood (USA). If even Americans don't want to see it, why should India or Brazil or Colombia or south Africa or Canada or Russia or Argentina or mexico or any of the other countries in the world that are not the USA have any interest in seeing it? Statistically, very few people in the rest of the world are interested in wasting money to see it cause we don't go to the movies that often and that's why marvel makes money out here.

[@juandiegoferreira889]

Honestly, if Babylon started Jennifer Lawrence or Charlize Theron or any other female lead. It would continue to be a uninteresting movie for the general audience. I'll say more: if you replaced her with LEO DiCaprio, I still don't think it would be a good movie and make a profit.

[@3l3llala13]

How many women now can actually open a film, because her name is above the title ? I can't think of one. Tom Cruise is arguably the only movie star remaining that can open a film. Michelle Pfeiffer is "bland" ? Hardly.

[@luciusblackwood2640]

I really liked the comic recommendations. You should do that more often!