Avatar Goggles X: Latency Test, Flight Footage and Review

[@flyingbaguettefpv]

I hope a hdmi in and av-in latency testing video is in the works. Good video otherwise!

[@eatyourvegfpv]

I don't think this is the latency test people were hoping that you'd do with these goggles...

[@McKuc]

Where is the race mode latency?

[@flightevolution8132]

"begoggled" I love it lmao

[@johnkurpiewski3996]

Your channel is the only one that can fill the void from another channel not giving much content these days . So thank you!

[@wesley4713]

Thanks for the vid! Cheers. I do wish you had touched on the analog support with latency and your experience vs the HDzero goggles. A hdzero vrx HDMI in test to the walksnail would have been good too. I'm beyond frustrated with analog on HDZERO and the hdzero whooplite boards breaking on me; I'm considering giving up on hdzero.

[@CorruptName1]

Man, im pretty hard on my hdzero whoop vtx's and ive never broke one... bad luck i guess?

[@wesley4713]

@@CorruptName1 3 vtx's (1x whoop and 2x whooplite) broke within 3 hours of flight (each) over grass with no major crashes. Maybe its bad luck but, I'm not spending another 60 bucks to find out. I figured I would give the new v3 race board a shot before jumping away. But, this wouldn't solve my analog issues as well. The newest firmware is causing problems with signal where I have to go into the fusion menu after plugging in the quad to make video display. Plus the fusion doesn't sit correctly in the module bay where pressing the menu button on the fusion presses the two fusion boards apart. I have to glue crap inside the module to hold the fusion in place better.

[@DynamicAlex]

I think one of the best points for the X's, is having both HDMI In and Out... This make these usable with many other VTX systems and in the future having the possibility to share the FPV with others real time... I already placed an order for them...

[@PeterM-PeterM]

OpenIPC for fpv. Anyone try it?

[@changeagent228]

We need a fitment comparison from someone who put on the goggles 2 and instantly felt extreme nose bridge pain like I did. I sent my goggles 2 back for a refund it was so bad. Also I noticed walksnails image still seemed a bit smeary vs o3 maybe they can fix that in an upcoming firmware.

[@austntexan]

Feels like we’re moving into endless upgrade/refresh cycles.

[@rstcologne]

Sounds great, however I wish Caddx had used people with noses as a reference when they designed the goggles :-)

[@jas-FPV]

Did you try using the HDMI (cables not fitting)

[@javiflores340]

What walksnail vtx did you use in the tests?

[@michaelwhouse46]

I’ve been rocking the vrx mod on my sky04x since it came out. I’ve switched all my quads over to wlksnl and after just now seeing the price of the goggles X I’m sold. Time to upgrade

[@JanPeterSimonsen]

I have avatar and DJI Googles 2 - and I am so sad that walksnail isn't better at fixing the smearing on the ground. It still looks bad in both examples. :(

[@wattage2007]

Yeah. For the quality to be so poor and ultra-compressed, they must be lying about the true bitrate of the VTX (like they lie about the output power). A 25Mb or even 12Mb stream should look superior to the kind of quality we’re seeing.

[@w1llyFPV]

Chris if you want to share your flight video you should convert it to 4K otherwise it looks bad on YT

[@tie191401]

So I have a question I was looking to upgrade my goggles. But my whole Fleet is analog so could you connect a a/v analog module to this which module does anyone recommend and can you connect it with no issues or how do you modify it

[@tomgraham2604]

Why don't we just keep the actual specs our little secret

[@tito9107]

Where's Bardwell on this???

[@kentrasmussen9545]

Hey Chris, thank you for all of your videos you have made over time. I just bought these Googles X after seeing your video... I have had so far in 8 flights, 4 crashes. The googles video feed just stops in flight, googles shows green/pink colors in stribes and then black screen. UI is dead, only sign of life is the blower noise. Recorded video on googles is faulty. This is bad. So I found out that, when I lower my head to much and aim at the immortal crossfire antenna om my TX16S, the Avatar Googles X goes into this crash mode. Again and again. Only way out is power off/on. When Crossfire transmit at 250mW or more and the antenna points upwards and I look downwards, this jamming incident happens to freaky easy. Just a question about distance, even on 25mW. I zip tied the immortal to the handel, that helped a bit. I wonder if ELRS will do the same, what do you think? I hope this will help others with the same issue. .

[@Ernest.Poletaev]

Would you recommend skyzone 04x pro + walksnail vrx or walksnail avatar x + tbs fusion analog vrx?

[@makarov9610]

Should I still buy it after knowing about the HEATING Issue. I live in India, which is already hot....

[@zip7806]

In conclusion..... If CR says Avatar! I'm All in Thank You... I will Use the Affiliate Link if there is one. Now you and JB can make Shorts- Battles of who Sold the Most via Affiliate Links. Ha Ha Haaa.

[@FlyingBuzzard]

A Voice of honesty and reason, that is good to hear instead of one bias claim after anther from so many others....it's DJI or nothing...we now hear a comparison of facts to show WS Avatar is just as good and probably better in over all experience Thank You. As I do not own any HD system I am strictly analog, but and if I were to go HD after researching, WS would be the system of choice . And as far as latency most people do not notice latency in simple recreational flying unless it is extreme, which most are not in my opinion...if any is worse it is DJI

[@vlax12]

Just solder power button on power cable. Easy thing to do and it is the same for the goggle as pulling power cable off. The positive thing here is that power jack will tear down less. Or if you are uncomfortable with modifying provided cable, just build your own with power button.

[@zip7806]

I recently tried on DJI 2 in a Showroom and they were Tiny like a Child Toy to my Big Viking Head. I have never Held the V2.. What is your take on the V2 for Fitment in this Comparison? Thanks.

[@ogpennywise]

Walksnail always looks like the skies are grey. Like it is always on the edge of a downpour. The quality is horrid and not worth the investment. I think they can keep trying, but I've written them off after they've had this long and produced this junk.

[@rainbowrunner1136]

I own goggles v2 and couple of vistas and analog builds using uruav adapter via av-in. What should be the advice fam? Should I keep the stuff and carry on or sell this and move to walksnail? Please advice.

[@Vousie]

Can't really talk about fit & ergonomics without talking about whether you can get the corner-to-corner clear focus on the screens... I'm particularly interested in this since the goggles say 50 deg FOV and previously most/all slimline goggles that had wide FOV's were very hard or impossible to get in focus corner-to-corner.

[@seanmetzger4780]

I’m hoping that that issue was more of a problem with the old style “insert your diopter lens” goggles…Iv heard from friends that the newer optic modules with built in diopter adjustments are far better. Mine are on order so I guess we’ll see

[@Vousie]

@@seanmetzger4780 No, I have heard reviewers say this about newer goggles that have the built-in diopter adjustments as well.

[@tkanal1]

I don't know but looking at the footage from these goggles I have to say it has so terrible picture that has so much of compression and artefacts that make picture not detailed at all where those details spill together that you don't even see tree branches, like here 2:26 ...I doubt that KZbin compression would mess up that much...

[@miquelmarti6537]

Avatar would be it if it supported analog. Newbees don't care, but most people already in the hobby will need to keep compatibility.

[@SeeFPv-qm6ie]

Can you please send me the link for the firmware update for the goggles and the vtx

[@cozzy206]

Hi Chris were did you get the firmware updates for the goggles and vtx

[@Ernest.Poletaev]

Is there any additional latency on Analog Input?

[@lorinwingtips5290]

Great Video as always! *HUGS*

[@dondupuis4007]

Chris you skipped over the old avatar fit.

[@dkieng]

Thanks for the video.

[@ChrisRosser]

You are welcome!

[@RoyCruse]

My brand new goggles X keeps crashing - UI and buttons lock up after 10 to 20 minutes (ie warmed up) FPV feed still plays in background - another 10 or so minutes and video feed locks up too. Once warmed up it does this every 2 or 3 minutes. Im in the UK - does anyone know where i can get help sorting this issue or replacing these ?

[@x13102543]

It's heat problem. You can replace new heatsink for free.

[@mcleonardcrouise6803]

Hello i have dji RC2 and can project display to TV via hdmi. Can I be able to see that display on my RC2 on these goggles too via HDMI?

[@ChrisRosser]

Yes you may be able to use the HDMI in.

[@taatoken]

an I dumb for not jumping on these goggles because they dont have built in analog? also is that that hard to build into goggles?

[@elxero2189]

Not at all. I'd wait for the v2 of these they are working on a new VRX for increased range I'd wait on the update

[@OptiquevideoFPV]

hdmi out test please :D

[@olacfpv]

Great review ! Thanks

[@sos1723]

I don't like the design... very ugly design.

[@alainassaf]

yey :) funny intro let's go !!

[@kavorka8855]

great, thanks 🙏

[@JDDupuy]

I have seen on another channel that parts of the screen cannot be seen like the DJI Goggle 2. Blurred edges etc. And they pinch off your nose. You mention none of this? I see this product being another DJI G2 release where everyone says they are great, you spend your money and get punched in the nose when you get them and try to use them. I have 2 sets of Avatar Goggles now and they fit great and no screen issues. I'll wait for the feedback once they get into the hands of the masses! I prefer the fit of the HD Zero goggle the best!

[@thewhitedillard]

Its a shame Caddx didn't do 2x RX and 2x TX antenna setup on this new goggle. I feel like that's a benefit more than a drawback to have it setup like DJI? anyone have any insight into this?

[@GroveLoveBIG]

They send telemetry to VTX, but this is not their main task. Why do glasses need two transmitting antennas if they are designed to receive a signal?

[@jameshatton4211]

@@GroveLoveBIG multi pathing. They are polarised so you need diversity

[@x13102543]

Thank you, I bought goggles X. I use HDMI IN to play LIFTOFF before MY 2" FPV drone arrived. That is really good for beginner.

[@zip7806]

6:24 The left Side is For Analog RX Not yet Talked about. Take it apart and you may See; Depending on the Beta version you received for review.

[@Worldmountboy]

thanks for the review, but I want to ask you about far sighted people( we see blurry when reading ) , is +2 to -6 diopter cover far sighted problem?

[@Seltro_]

Great review. Do you reckon 1080P 100FPS will make it to the VRX? I've really been enjoying Walksnail with my HDZero goggles.

[@sten6537]

HDzero goggles '2' ?

[@r0bfpv]

If my V1s really won't support 1080@100, they will change hands

[@ThranMaru]

This release is a great timing for me. I've decided to try walksnail with my last build by buying just the VRX and connecting them to my EV200D. It was so good that I then also bought the Rotor Riot Vision40 for the whoop season ❄ So obviously I'm in now. Love the developments and approach. Thanks for your review!

[@marianofpv]

Hi Chris, it would be awesome if you included a link to the original video files from the DVR as KZbin destroys the quality, plus, this video is at 30fps. Cheers

[@Ricpow80AkaNagamooto]

Are the hdzero goggles running a walksnail vrx capable of delivering the new 1080p 100fps footage? If not what resolutions and fps can you get out of the hdzero goggles running a walksnail vrx?

[@Alf-Dee]

Please, try a latency test using external hdzero vrx and analogue input. And compare the results with same tests on HDzero goggles. That would be the final latency comparison! 😎

[@francescorobotti8341]

I've purchased avatar X today.. Still i have to sell the old avatar goggles (sigh i love them 😢) For my personal choice, micro quads from 2 to 3 inches, analog and digital too, just one set of goggles is the way to go.. Is just huge the fact i've spent more on fatshark avatar while on sale than this set 😮

[@wattage2007]

Nice, concise review. These HDZero goggles look absolutely ridiculous and home made compared to the Xs.

[@fallenwout]

Nobody talks about the antifog feature. You reviewers don't do wonky stuff that makes you sweat on your eyeballs?

[@jasoncourville9568]

As far as fitment goes, at first the dji goggles 2 were very uncomfortable but, the 1080p visual goodness bombarding my eyes made it worth it. The new fabric and foam comfort fit faceplate from dji solved all of the fitment issues for me. My skyzone o4x goggles fit the best out of the box, I'm still using the original Sharkbyte VRX with them

[@jesterwaterwizard2917]

Latency test?

[@ChrisHarmon1]

I may have missed it but will you be covering the 540p latency on the goggles x?

[@Simofly]

Chris thank you very much for this review and work! Is it possible that you have inverted the avatar 1080p100 25 with 50mbit ? maybe I'm wrong but I wanted to tell you

[@MichaelRogersJesusrules]

Always a pleasure,your vids,exept the ones that blow/fry my brain. Thank you for sharing they could be my next buy but that would only be to remove the hdmi in from hdzero and make it lighter alsoo i think i would be able to see the full screen edges the fov . cheers have a good one.

[@BaldmanFPV]

Glad to see the latency is down there. Wish you would have thrown up the vista, but ill dig for it.

[@junkthe]

15:27 latency

[@RookieRay]

I understand why they want to lock 1080@100 to the new goggles but honestly the new goggles are such a good price I don’t think they need to worry about people just buying the old ones instead of the new

[@SebastienChedalBornu]

The new optics are as good as the older ones but far much better than the crappy DJI goggles 2 ones.

[@verdi6092]

I think walksnail should hire someone from apple design department 😊

[@wearemany73]

Great Video Chris, this could be my time to pounce, and if I do, I’ll be sure to use your affiliate links. 👍😊

[@Ender_FPV]

Cylon 😂

[@LehtusBphree2flyFPV]

Buy them now before they go up LIKE they did before

[@dondupuis4007]

There are foams out there that stops leaks and are softer, but each person is different.

[@dabfpv]

If they had added a dedicated socket for an analog receiver in the X, it would have been a hit.

[@HeyitsmeEarl]

Chris, love all the great work, love the honest reviews, love you bringing the science to our hobby. Great looking goggles

[@norrathX89]

So this google can do 1080p100 with the 1s lite kit?

[@GroveLoveBIG]

Hello. You have an excellent channel with detailed technical testing of equipment. Thanks for your channel. I was very surprised that you did not test the AV input and HDMI input of the new glasses as well as other reviewers. - There is information from other reviewers that at the moment the HDMI input of the new glasses does not work correctly, the image has the wrong color, which makes the image unreadable. (it is not clear whether caddx will be able to fix this with software). - And also that the AV input has a large delay (around 100ms), which makes these glasses unsuitable for flying a quadcopter through an analog receiver. - In addition, these glasses cannot record DVR for analog input and HDMI input. - The HDMI input and output are heavily recessed into the housing, which prevents the use of almost all HDMI cables. - The quality of the plastic molding is very low, so much so that the inscriptions next to the input/output ports are almost unreadable. The wear resistance of such plastic is a concern. - I am concerned about the question of what resolution and what frame rate the glasses can produce through the HDMI output, as well as what resolution and what frame rate the glasses can receive through the HDMI input and show to the user. Because if this output or output is 1080@25fps, then it's pretty sad and useless for some use cases. What do you say about this? For what reasons did you not conduct tests of image delays through AV and HDMI inputs, because these are very real user cases of use? CADDX have already released several updates for the new glasses, but still have not fixed the problems listed above. The question arises whether they will be able to fix the above problems at all. Based on apparent problems like this among end users, the manufacturer has a huge problem testing their products. Maybe CADDX considers its fans and early buyers beta testers?

[@olyddiego8515]

nice pls make a long range test side to side to all systems pls

[@davidsandquist5122]

Any idea when pre orders are set to ship? Is this like soon or a month away?

[@maxun1]

range, what is the range, no one talk about the range.

[@406fpv9]

Does the 50mb mode work better with the new goggles?

[@matteocatellani]

I’ve just order one.. hope I won’t regret 😅

[@alpher8962]

Will the hdmi work as a vr on a pc ?

[@23lkjdfjsdlfj]

I want goggles that work with PC/laptop VR and with FPV, and eventually 3D FPV.

[@jameshatton4211]

I have modified my Samsung Galaxy VR headset to take the HDMI in using gaming capture card

[@owenmckee4053]

This is the review we've all been waiting for.

[@CorruptName1]

Man, if they could only do something about the smearing effect i would use it more and buy the goggles. I just hate when everything smears across the screen or when signal drops and everything looks like its painted.

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

I doubt it’ll ever get solved on this gen’s hardware. Maybe the next hardware coming out next year

[@bjowitt]

Got them on pre-order, pretty excited 😆

[@tk-maker]

waited so long for your review

[@christhorney]

lol that intro was too funny

[@ladronefpv4484]

DVR PLEASE

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic review and testing, Chris! 😃 The only 2 things left, in my opinion, are an analog module bay (perhaps replacing the LED panels) and the DVR to record AV in, for analog. Other than that, I only need to save some money. 😂 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Dorff_Meister]

Thanks. I'm excited about them as an alternative to Analog. I have DJI Goggles 2, but yeah it pushes the limit of 2" and smaller quads.

[@hubexergaming8224]

slight offtopic question: when switching between cddx Vista and O3 Air, do i still need to change firmware on the DJI Integra/goggles2? It stops me from building my second Drone because i dont realy want to stick with Vista forever