How Much Power Does My 335i Make? MHD Stage 2+

[@Lazer-rj6vu]

You are crazy running stage 2+ on the stock charge pipe😂

[@VehicularDIY]

Haha I've since upgraded it.

[@YNF100]

Lazer7123 facts stock boost blew my charge pipe 🥴

[@gabriellopez3599]

Lol Blew my charge pipe on a stage 1 don’t know how u didn’t on stage 2 plus 😆

[@kenrs3329]

@@YNF100 bro me too, blew mine going to get groceries

[@YNF100]

@@kenrs3329 a year later my engine is blown lmao

[@tommybenson5472]

Great video. btw the stock 6AT transmission on these cars can handle quite a bit of power. Should be able to handle up to 600tq

[@T2VR]

Tommy Benson yeah, xhp stage 3, there's a guy with an AT 135i single turbo making 700+whp and ~600wtq Going single is better than upgraded twins for AT, singles don't make dangerous amounts of torque.

[@fohatadri]

@@T2VR twins make too much torque down low and that is exactly when everything breaks. single for the win baby

[@fohatadri]

SS PAX how am I wrong ? Almost no one puts upgrades twins. They are too responsive. Driveline breaks and way too much stress on the engine. Take for example every RB or 2JZ build ever, no one runs twins.

[@Worldscientist47]

@@fohatadri this aged well . Market now flooded with 17t twins.

[@fireninja7434]

Dyno results 6:25

[@themexicanwinner]

“Not planning to upgrade turbos” 😂

[@guigson2633]

One year later, have you had any issues with the automatic transmission handling all that torque?

[@tuned4life]

Just watched this vid again and these are some real great numbers for the mods that are on the car, spend give or take 2k euro/dollar and you have a car that has about 380whp and shit load of torque

[@BAVARIANMAGAZINE]

I’m on stage 1+ and hit 18-20psi max sometimes on a good cold 60 degree day in Minnesota, year old oem turbos, upgraded chargepipe and then everything else stock

[@arellano7142]

Matt Sorenson lmao

[@efthimios]

I dynoed my 2011 335 xdrive auto today it’s stock made 270 hp time for mhd

[@RobOnMotors]

I'd say it's time for maintenance... Get a carbon clean

[@ruskibruski]

Robert Higgs those are expensive

[@xantor_]

@@ruskibruski they are important though. After the walnut blast I recommend an oil catch can.

[@LMLracing]

We love MHD

[@VehicularDIY]

Yes we do haha.

[@pilosopo25]

Can't wait for your inlets diy video

[@JMD535]

Nice MHD Stage 2+ information! I plan to add FMIC and Charge Pipe to 2010 535xi!

[@cacadeperro]

Did you do this tune and are you doing a Coupe, Sedan or Wagon? I have an o8 535Xi Wagon I plan to upgrade as well.

[@joem7023]

Don't go cheap on fmic

[@The_VanillaGorilla]

I'm running 99oct on a fbo 335i, no Dynos round here but it's suspected that I'm running 420 at the wheels on 19psi. 41k miles so I think it's a gamble 😂

[@kevinsinor2821]

“What business is it of yours… friendo”

[@efthimios]

neat my 2011 335 xdrive has 60K miles, and want to do FMIC and S2 MHD to wake it up!

[@minecarftcrafter]

Making practically those same exact number with e40 on my stock 335i my tuner is a goat.

[@waistedsausage1071]

WOW almost 300,000 km the car has done and it's still making near power of 80k

[@BMWI-gk9wh]

We are built to last

[@toorani17]

Mhd stage 2+ vs jb4 with mhd back end flash, which one makes more power with same mods?

[@pilosopo25]

Awesome video!!!

[@abelucious]

Virtual Dyno is not graphing my data logged from MHD for come reason ,

[@matreyia]

You log on Grand Parkway or somewhere else? Also, you are correct, you will 100% need an upgraded transmission if you upgrade turbos...Hell, mine went kaputt even when I was tuning with FBO and MHD. So I upgraded to Propulsive Dynamics transmission. Now I am ready to upgrade the turbos...time to call Mauricio again.

[@samsungschi500]

FBO + MHD was not likely the reason that your Transmission let go. Rather, it was likely the result of MHD having to under-report torque to the TCU, in order to avoid transmission faults and limp-mode. And, as a result of this under-reporting, the transmission did not adapt to and properly engage gear shifts - causing more slippage between gear shifts under heavy load. XHP Stage 3 addresses this (raised torque limits) when combined with the MHD 'XHP' option (which reports the real toque figures to the TCU). This, alone, would have (more than likely) had your stock AT holding for tens of thousands of miles longer, while FBO. On a seperate/related note, I consider the Propulsive Dynamics transmission upgrade to be top-notch. I would still HIGHLY recommend that you flash XHP Stage 3 and the appropriate option in MHD - to make sure that the transmission operates with knowledge of true torque figures (which the TCU uses to time/calibrate/refine each gear shift, at all varied loads - out of and into each of the gears - manage heat and minimize wear / prolong service life). Otherwise, not doing so WILL subject even your Propulsive Dynamics transmission to premature wear.

[@matreyia]

Actually, the input shaft bushing just got worn out from logging. That's it. input shaft controls 3rd to 4th shifting...and it just went out suddenly and never came back. You are trying to diagnose without knowing the situation, the technological options such as MHD or xHP... while these comments may be true for the situation you are describing, they are only assumptions that in the end are incorrect regarding my situation and what led to the tranny failure. All the xHP settings were properly used...it was a case of mechanical wear, nothing else. How do I know this? Because I have been logging for nearly a year with zero issues and the malfunction was sudden and absolute and you could immediately tell that it was physical. Torque limits were not an issue at all. Furthermore, the tranny was properly adapted with ZF driving programming procedure with xHP stage 3 to rule out any potential adaptation value problems. As a matter of fact, even now, each time I update to the latest xHP stage 3 iteration, I do new adaptations to ensure no possible pressure value errors. It is a pain to drive 57 miles on a shoulder lane...but if you want to do things correctly, then you have to do it yourself. OE Stock bushings are quite soft and are not unified in construction. the ring is not a single piece of metal, but rather is a rolled piece of metal that has sliced but out...eventually the fail and very fast under over rated pressures. The Propulsive Dynamics unit has racing special alloy one piece bushings with proprietary bushings that are designed to withstand much more pressure and they will not deform.

[@samsungschi500]

Thank you for adding color to what actually occurred when your transmission went "kaputt". There was no diagnosing being attempted... was merely speculating (hence, the use of the term "likely"). Sounds like an unfortunate scenario occurred. It's so interesting how what you mentioned... while it holds true... can somehow be eluded by some (oftentimes pushing absurd levels of torque) but not others (with merely an OTS stage 1 tune). Thankfully, though, you now have what I'd consider to be one of the most thoughtful transmission upgrades on the planet. It's also great to see an example of an owner being measured and methodical in their approach to caring after their vehicle. Would you happen to have posted a detailed review of the new PD transmission?

[@matreyia]

Eventually there will be a twin review of xHP and PD. Beginning this weekend, I am beginning logging for xHP for a custom calibration to go with the PD unit. It will a be a long process over a couple of weeks since there are multiple xHP flashes which must be adapted to and then driven for a couple of days before each logging happens. One tank of gas after ZF adaptations per each flash should suffice for the car to acclimate to each flash then loggin can be done.

[@DrizziG]

I’ve seen you could push about 480 HP without upgrading turbos. Is this posible? And what would you need to upgrade? Because I saw that MHD stage 2+ tune puts your car to 420 hp

[@R3RS2024]

yes its possible

[@DrizziG]

@@R3RS2024 I think that’s insane. Had a hell of a day yesterday I’m still pretty much stock besides intakes and stage 1 tune and raced my buddy’s wrx with a single turbo and absolutely gapped him. It was almost too good to be true because he always has his car in the shop spending around $1000 every single time and my car still gapped him on a 40 roll. Pretty insane can’t wait to start getting other parts for my build!

[@marcoantoniomorquecho6452]

550whp is the top limit, 480whp with E-mix and relocated inlets and outlets

[@jermainesamples8154]

@Drizzi G Youre right its insane. These cars are understated in they hp figures. Ppl dont really look at the factory numbers imo. The 2008 e92 bmw 335xi does 0-60 in 4.8 sec and 13.8 in the quarter. So if you take in consideration a Dci and intercooler upgrade on stage 1+mhd your would easily gap most cars that are upgraded. Just imagine how many cars on the road can actually do 40-100 in 4 secs. My 2008 335xi feels scary fast. And you can maintain the speed with a catch and the injectors cleaned.

[@4wdaddict41]

Do you recomend i buy a 08 335i with 190k for 2800 if it has had decent maintenance done to it .

[@KillaV91]

Hey bro... Iv only got ebay intercooler and secondery cats gutted.. mhd stage 2+ I got 418bhp and 459tourq i think

[@KillaV91]

110k

[@VehicularDIY]

Vishnu Patel solid numbers for sure. You running 93 octane?

[@KillaV91]

Yer bud ... my numbers where very high... There where some fbo n54s n they was struggling to make 410... was an odd dyno day.. i was lesst modedded.. as it was a n54uk dyno day.. and am on stock intake and downpipes i must have a factory unicorn lol

[@RClittleKING]

That ebay intercooler really putting in work 👌

[@gprnick]

Isnt that crank horsepowers? since he meant 368 wheel horsepowers.

[@plost99]

I am trying to test the same with MHD flasher Auto logging but every time I start from 3rd gear it drops to 2nd and skews up all the numbers. It is showing that I am generating 566 whp which is definitely not correct. Not sure if something is wrong with the car or I am doing something wrong. What speed and rpm should I start at? Thanks

[@black02beemer]

New to Houston area , modified 535i... Couple questions for you

[@johnMpower]

What a version of MHD maps you use? 7.1 ou 8 beta? And why?

[@MrKobedagreat24]

Hey man should i use the canadian 94 octane option for mhd? I live in canada and we have 94 octane here. Or should i use 93 us oct option? Not sure

[@DLaVey]

Did you got the answer?

[@Notyourfathersbmw]

Did you upgrade downpipes or intercooler first?

[@VehicularDIY]

The car came with downpipes already installed then I did the intercooler after.

[@mikebrooks447]

Off subject..your videos are extremely helpful. I'm having trouble with 30FE overboost in 2nd when hitting 4.5K to 5K rpms. Any tips or suggestions..?

[@bigeye250]

maybe your wastegates are adjusted wrong

[@VehicularDIY]

Mike Brooks Thanks, how many miles are on the car and have the boost solenoids been tested?

[@mikebrooks447]

Vehicular DIY 93,000...no they haven't. I can remove them...how would you test them?

[@mikebrooks447]

Finally got to swapping out one of the boost solenoids. Ran WOT for the first time in months without throwing 30FE. Time will tell.

[@i_read_bad_reviews]

Mike Brooks did time tell?

[@SroArcher]

I may have missed the video, but what IC and DPs are you running?

[@VehicularDIY]

SroArcher I'm running an eBay intercooler and not such what brand of downpipes are on the car as I bought it that way.

[@eyeyron5007]

Nice! I wish my f30 n55 can last that long and can make that much power as well. What are your thoughts on Bm3?

[@VehicularDIY]

Hey I haven't actually looked into BM3, seems to be a flashed based tune vs something like a JB4 piggy back. If you're considering between the two I'd say if you're out of warranty consider a full flash tune.

[@bigeye250]

have you noticed any bad smells after putting downpipes on it at all? its just someone on youtube said when they put downpipes on theyre bmw m2 it smelled like shit???

[@VehicularDIY]

I actually bought the car with down pipes in place, the exhaust might have a different smell to it considering there the lack of precats. There is always the re-circulation button.

[@bigeye250]

recirculation button?

[@TurboNFRStwoK]

He's talking about for the AC so it doesn't bring in air from the outside. The only time you can smell it (unless you have an exhaust leak) is if it's running in the garage for any length of time or if you were in a car behind yours.

[@miiikesteele]

bigeye250 yes...you will smell fumes.

[@joes.7536]

I've had catless downpipes on many different turbo cars. There does seem to be a bad smell the first week after removing the cats but if the car is running well it's not bad at all after a while once the exhaust gets flushed out from the extra heat now traveling all the way to your tailpipe instead of getting trapped in the cat.

[@jdemecdemac7115]

Just so's you know mhd stage 2+ tune "Average Power Levels 370-430hp using a peak 16 to 18 psi tapering to 12-14psi at redline"

[@sunpacbrolygokuzu3609]

Yeah i wouldn't be supprised. Mine made 344 whp and 367 wtq on MHD stage 1. And only bolt ons i have at the moment are a VRSF charge pipe, DCI's, and a TialQ Bov.

[@chrisgarret3285]

I regularly hit 19.9 psi on MHD stage 2 plus FBO 335i

[@kofffset]

how many pounds of boost?

[@l2wton]

What programme are you using to upload the log on your laptop

[@vitaliys943]

380hp to the wheels ?

[@WrecklessRebuilds]

Do u still have the car?

[@ghosstwarior]

Why the boost on idle and even when driving says -9 for you? Mine says 0 or -0.3 while on idle.

[@robinsonf1136]

That’s not good bud, you probably got a vacuum/boost leak, idle should be about -8 to-12.

[@GODISGOOD1916]

Anybody? Do you have to rebuild the transmission to run 600+ hp

[@roberthastings2418]

Answers to this are kinda up in the air, some people are doing fine over 600,but Its not well documented, I have not read much about these tranny's failing too soon After big power as well though, so personally for myself I plan on just getting a used one to keep in my shed incase mine blows up after trying to push 650whp in the future. There are a few rebuild options but I've only heard heavily mixed reviews unless you can work locally with the company that's offering. I think most people for big power just swap in the dct if their slush box fails or do a manual swap. Sorry if I couldn't help but I've been scavenging for information too, it's near impossible to find anything about anything over 500whp with the 6at

[@GODISGOOD1916]

I'm making between 360-370 hp without running MHD tune at all. If upgrade the turbos, and outlets, than run mhd stage2+ plus get 2 stepped colder spark plugs not even counting e85, maybe swap to port injection maybe not, but upgrade the hpfp than I'll probably push over 600hp I hope

[@Alexxx-cf5vw]

How exactly you upgraded turbo ?

[@GODISGOOD1916]

@@Alexxx-cf5vw what

[@luis4210]

How are you making 370 without a tune?

[@GODISGOOD1916]

@@luis4210 Easy

[@jakegoldberg8941]

@@luis4210 hes lying lmfao

[@endlesscatching6548]

M3 cluster ?

[@HPAddict]

What smoothing factor were you using on the top right? Default 1?

[@VehicularDIY]

Yeah the default 1, I want to go on an actual dyno just to see how accurate those numbers are.

[@HPAddict]

Vehicular DIY that’s a great idea, I would also love to know

[@HPAddict]

Vehicular DIY I have measured a baseline and it seemed to be very accurate on smoothing set to 1, but I had to make sure I wasn’t getting wheelspin, because that messes up the whole measurement

[@Thunder-co2xo]

I'm Ramification you know me

[@gprnick]

Did you run linear throttle mapping on mhd?

[@VehicularDIY]

I did not, would you say there is a benefit of doing so?

[@gprnick]

Actually found out you don't run linear throttle mapping on an AT when you have it flashed with xhp. Since xhp uses the OEM throttle mapping.

[@yonglin7743]

Can u just mod down pipe and tune stage 2?

[@ethangibbs6991]

I'm also in the Houston area and looking to do cat less down pipes, where do you get your inspection done?

[@VehicularDIY]

I just go to Jiffy Lube for the yearly inspection.

[@ethangibbs6991]

And they pass you with cat-less downpipes? Do you pay them to pass you or do you legit pass

[@henrylima6974]

Vehicular DIY does it pass inspection bro?

[@jonahwarner664]

How did you get the files from mhd to your computer? Can’t figure it out.

[@VehicularDIY]

I just emailed them from my tablet.

[@eskania]

Why you decide to go to MHD than Bootmod3

[@StututuNi]

idiotttt😂😂bootmod3 doesn’t work on these series😂

[@eskania]

@@StututuNi 😂🤣😂🤣

[@CORPUS020896]

Ayyy houston

[@yavor1885]

did you just flash over your dinan tune with the mhd or did you have to have dinan remove it for you?

[@VehicularDIY]

Yavor N I could flash right over it

[@vw3576]

Vehicular DIY break this down so will I lose Dinan or if I take mhd off it reverts back to dinan

[@StraightOuttaTheSandbox]

@@vw3576 if you want to save the Dinan Tune, you can save it in the MHD app before flashing

[@alminsmajkan7040]

@@StraightOuttaTheSandbox hey man know it’s a year old comment but how do I save the tune already on the car? Have a custom tune made for a stock car now wanting to go 2+ with Mhd

[@StraightOuttaTheSandbox]

You can generate an updated backup. It copies whatever tune is on the car currently. Then you just tune the car to whatever you want.

[@yeboi2217]

ZF21s transmosaions hold like 700hp... just saying :)

[@Saif0412]

Transmosians 🤣

[@shaunpilkington4625]

This guy sounds like a Canuck ?

[@jorged.carrillo9006]

What downpipes do you have?

[@VehicularDIY]

Not sure actually, them came with the car.

[@LMLracing]

Mmp stock outlets suck poorly Designed did not like them they run hotter then stock dropoing boots target