Hanhart - PIONEER Preventor HD12 39mm, The Perfect GADA Watch? 150m WR, Hardened Steel, and More!

[@theurbangentry]

Hands down the best and most accurate review so far! Thank you so much for this, keep up the great work. Best regards, TGV

[@lestersalvador2022]

Currently saving for a black dial Preventor HD12 right now! It's honestly SO Beautiful. ❤

[@AverageBros]

@@theurbangentry Thank you Tristano, your enthusiast eye is definitely felt in this amazing time piece and your channel has been an inspiration to so many within the community, cheers 🥂

[@jackarnold3290]

Placed my deposit for a Blue on bracelet version. Excited! Thanks TGV

[@jackarnold3290]

Me too! Deposit paid. Excited for this in blue Dial.

[@CD-rq4ip]

An "Explorer"-style watch that isn't a scratch magnet makes so much sense for a GADA watch. Combines all the style elements that will make this an instant classic

[@MH-lh1bf]

I used to wear a Sinn 556i as a Service/Duty watch. I ditched it for a Seiko SPB143 aka 62MAS reissue as the Sinn lacked a good and consistend lume during Night shifts. No other watch ever fitted my wrist as good as the 556 though… so now that the Hanhart is around with pretty much the same dimensions, great lume, great readability, the history, the quality and that hardened steel (boy I was always dreaming about a Sinn 556 with tegiment treatment)… fast forward: I received it yesterday and ist perfect!I LOVE IT ❤

[@chosearmandoarmando3864]

I bought the 556 at the start of this year, and I must say the wearbility is superb.

[@MH-lh1bf]

@@chosearmandoarmando3864 it’s near perfection in that genre of do it all watch. I’ve worn the Hanhart now for a couple of days now and it matches the wearability. It’s unbelievably accurate as well. Their regulation takes 7 days at the factory and it shows. I’m not kidding: it’s running on less than +\-1s a day. It blows my mind. The Sinn has the same movement and mine was at around +/- 5s a day. Both great watches but now that I got the Hanhart I ain’t missing that Sinn no more 😍

[@The3osforos]

I have an spb143 too and i just found myself drooling over this hanhart. How do they conpare quality wise?

[@MH-lh1bf]

@@The3osforos the Hanhart punches way above its weight. A couple of weeks ago I had the opportunity to try on a Tudor Ranger. It’s on par with that. The bracelet and clasp on the Ranger are more refined but that’s about it. If you d wipe the Hanhart and Tudor insignia off of both watches and had to tell the price you’d rate them pretty much the same. I think Hanhart is “under-pricing” the Preventor HD12 on purpose as they are kind of new to the 3-handed field watch game. Also I think they wanna “field test” the HD12 hardening and get as much revenue and consumer feedback as possible. The SPB143 is still close to my heart. I think a great vintage diver with heritage is a must have. Though mine is horrible on accuracy at -20s a day…. The Hanhart on the other hand: its accuracy blew my mind during the first days. It runs at under (!!!) +/- 2 seconds a day!!! I would even say it s closer to the 1s mark. I highly recommend watching TGVs/Urban Gentry video on it. You ll see why it is that way. They are regulating every watch for 7 days at the factory before delivery. That’s insane and it shows. So far the only thing I’m missing is the bracelet…. No idea when they’ll be available again … thought about putting it on a NATO or my Uncle Seiko Tropic strap in the meantime.

[@brianlam9429]

I tried both of these watches the other day.. the Preventor was too heavy for me

[@seanharwood974]

I got the blue dial Preventor HD12 last week. Love it .

[@jackarnold3290]

Jealous, I am on waiting list for Blue on bracelet.

[@seanharwood974]

@@jackarnold3290 it will be worth the wait and it will look amazing on a bracelet. The blue dial also looks incredible in the sun. Mine has been very accurate so far

[@seanharwood974]

@@jackarnold3290 you’ll love it. The blue dial looks amazing in sun light

[@ninjasrose1653]

Thanks for this, I have been awaiting a true breakdown of this watch since its launch. It was my grail watch before watching this video. Now I am even more certain!

[@illiterate-ei8dp]

this video really sold me on the hanhart versus the murph 38mm

[@ganck1147]

The Hanhart is a far far better looking watch compared to the murph. So much more sharper looking.

[@Sumerdini]

Sure, Hanhart case is better than murph but movement... Hamilton H-10 is simply excellent...

[@illiterate-ei8dp]

@@Sumerdini isn't the eta 2824-2 similar to sw200

[@MH-lh1bf]

@@Sumerdini the Hanhart puts the Murph in its backpocket in every aspect… except power reserve… which to be fair doesent even matter in any watch if you are wearing it daily anyway. I received my Hanhart last week and it’s amazing! It runs at about +\- 1s a day! It’s insane. The 7 day process of regulating their watches at Hanhart goes far beyond Hamilton. Hamilton btw -like most other mass market swatch offerings- is more or less Made in China and assembled in Switzerland … to the lowest most cost effective factor possible. Not bashing on Hamilton/Swatch Group. I personally own a Tissot PRS and a Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical. Love em both…. but the Hanhart is on another level. It punches WAY ABOVE its weight. I wear it everyday as my service/duty watch putting it through its paces the way it is intended to be. Let’s say I’m wearing it in a “G Shock environment”… it’s just fantastic and fully made by a handful of passionate watch nerds in Gütenbach/Germany. Btw: It replaces my Sinn 556i and that’s sayin sth on its own already. What I also don’t like about the Murph: The fact that Hamilton actually took the dial design from the war years Hanharts. It’s a great hommage… but why get sth that’s inferior in every way whilst also being a “copy” of someone else’s trademark dial design? Just my humble opinion as an owner of products of both brands. So no offense 🫶🏼🙂

[@jimjames-n7e]

@@illiterate-ei8dp eta 2824 - 2 not used in either of these watches though!

[@JamesAlexander14]

I like this mainly because it doesn’t have date. Superb looking watch.

[@porschephile2k3]

I already love this watch, but I do have a wish list for it if Hanhart decides to make improvements: 1) quick, tool-less micro adjustment on the clasp 2) a SW300 with an upgraded 56 hour PR option 3) better tolerances between the lugs/case and solid end links 4) decoupling crown (more of a want than a need). It would be perfect with these improvements and yes, I'm willing to pay more! I already posted these on the official Hanhart YT account and they seem to be open to suggestions. I told them it would be nice to have options similar to what Laco does with the Flieger Pro.

[@zaxlash]

Does it not have solid end links?

[@porschephile2k3]

@zaxlash I think it does. Having better tolerances between the end links and the lugs will give the watch a more premium look.

[@C.C._TJ_Jason]

I can only speak from my own personal experience but lume for a modern cockpit watch is absolutely important. We do a lot of flying now on goggles and they don’t allow your eyes to dark adapt. For me lume was more important flying than it was scuba diving.

[@AverageBros]

@@C.C._TJ_Jason thanks for the insight!

[@gvoluto2816]

Kein Pilot benötigt noch eine Armbanduhr 😅

[@RalfPinkaire-f7w]

Get out of here. No modern pilot flying on goggles needs a mechanical wristwatch unless he bails out 😂😂😂😂

[@C.C._TJ_Jason]

@@RalfPinkaire-f7w I wouldn’t wear a mechanical watch flying, I went with quartz. And yes I often used the watch while flying. With a weak lume I’d have to twist my wrist rover to get it under the map light. Would much rather just have good lume. But I only flew for 2 decades so what do I know.

[@shemrun]

Beautiful watch. Great review 👍

[@AverageBros]

Thank you for that!

[@righton1]

Thanks for the review. It’s a great looking watch.

[@allanandrews7247]

I got my blue dial on a strap. It’s worth mentioning that the bund pad is removable if it’s not your style.

[@BillTheButcher585]

Absolutly beautiful watch 😍

[@uncles2000]

I own this watch and am wearing it now. The Hanhart is a better watch in features, fit and finish, than the Murph. If you get the bund strap, Hanhart makes a 18mm deployment clasp for the Pioneer and it is a better option than the pin and buckle.

[@a_commisso77]

How does it wear compared to the Murph? Is it closer to 38mm or 40mm? Thank you!

[@uncles2000]

@@a_commisso77 Closer to a 38mm. Bezel and case shape make it look/feel smaller.

[@alexanderbelov1721]

One small thing spoils the whole picture - Murph is available, Hanhart...also available. To see a movie about.

[@uncles2000]

@@alexanderbelov1721 Only if you were waiting to make the decision. If you’re in the US you will have to put a deposit down with Watchbuy and wait a few months or go onto the secondary market and pay the current market price. Then there is always ‘second best’ and it’s availability.

[@happyscaling]

How do your Traska Summiteers compare to the Hanhart? Seems to fit a similar bill with the hardened coating and dimensions

[@TheChaz5504]

Great video. These are amazing watches, and I love the brand/history, already being an owner of a 417 chrono. I think another really good Hamilton comparison is the Khaki Field Expedition. I own a black one on bracelet and really like it- it has the same all brushed vibe, super legible white arabics, same price point. If I were to go for one of these I'd move on from the Hamilton, because they would be redundant in my collection. These Hanharts do have a better spec sheet for sure- hmmm....

[@megacab]

I really want the 417 chrono. Any complaints about it?

[@hammalamiri12]

This blows the Hamilton out of the water - it’s superb and even better with the blue dial

[@Sumerdini]

Hamilton movements are simply much better & accurate...

[@TimothyShrader]

@@SumerdiniHamilton dial finish looks like it came out of a Cracker Jack box. Chinese garbage.

[@jackarnold3290]

@@SumerdiniYour opinion. OK.

[@Sumerdini]

@@jackarnold3290 but the case of Hanhart is superior to Hamilton...

[@ae-ca602]

Is it better than the Hamilton Murph 38mm

[@kresimirpleic]

The Hamilton Murph is manufactured in China and assembled in Switzerland. The Hanhart is manufactured in Germany and assembled in Germany. The Hanhart is therefore the better value for money.

[@uncles2000]

Yes, but one has to factor in what features, one actually needs for the price difference.

[@stefanhaffner]

​@@aphex_303 hanhart has loomed second hand too. I imagine if you heavily favour white or fauxtina you would favour one or the other. The hanhart is generally better specced tho. Also the 80 hour power reserve comes at the cost of decreased beat rate

[@nickknox.]

@@kresimirpleic Hard to argue with that

[@alexanderbelov1721]

Much better than Murph. Would be even better if available. Unfortunately - sold out with no hope in sight.

[@buckethead84]

I think this is my next watch, the blue dial.

[@jackarnold3290]

Me too. In fact my deposit is paid and I am on waiting list. Excited! Great work Hanhart and TGV.

[@Nj-gt5fz]

Great review thank you

[@behonestwithyourself3718]

Man, i really want to buy this watch now. Minty.

[@markyz456]

Hi there. Do you know why it's named "preventor"? Is that related to the anti scratching hardened steel?...or does the name refer to something else? Thank you

[@jimjames-n7e]

No it's not related, because they make a Preventor 9 and that doesn't have any case hardening or treatment.

[@bludevul96]

Hoping for a white version in the near future!

[@a_commisso77]

How does this watch wear compared to the Murph 38? I have a smaller wrist and I’m not sure if this watch will fit me due to the lug to lug.

[@AverageBros]

@@a_commisso77 they wear pretty close to each other, I'll eventually do a full comparison but did a strap review where I had them side-by-side if you want to check that out

[@silentcontender]

I believe the Hanhart has the same lug to lug size as the murph.

[@a_commisso77]

@@AverageBros awesome thank you!

[@EdmundPorter-ju8kd]

How would you compare this to your Laco Flieger )sic) Pro’s? Fit & finish and how you think the 40mm Laco feels/looks on your wrist vs 39mm Hanhart, also which dial has more sunray finish? Thanks so much for your input, he says hopefully.

[@AverageBros]

Compares well, a bit more overbuilt feeling with more heft, but not necessarily more refinement, maybe a bit more versatile though

[@AverageBros]

As for the Sunray, this has a plain matte dial with no sunray texture, neither does the black dial Flieger Pro, only the Blue dial one.

[@EdmundPorter-ju8kd]

@@AverageBros it is the blue dial I’m interested in. Thanks very much for answering my questions!

[@st44455]

Perfect. Sold my Hamilton field watch because of the annoying glare.

[@ioakimmakis9288]

nice watch, nice review,, (one more watch with an SW200 movement, that is of course the twin brother of ETA-2824. ETA-2824 is a very popular movement.)

[@ryanc4183]

Does anyone know the size of the dial?

[@watchchimp3102]

A nice watch, but I don't know if it beats my Nivada-Grenchen Super Antarctic? Very similar specs, but the Super Antarctic has applied indices compared to the painted dial. The lume looks to be better, and the case hardening is significant. But, as a GADA I think the Nivada-Grenchen gets the nod. As a strictly practical tool? Maybe the Hanhart takes the cheese! Both are better than the Hamilton.

[@AverageBros]

I own 3 variations of the Super Antarctic and I love them all, I will say that the build quality here is a touch more solid but like you said, there are tradeoffs between the two lines.

[@lestersalvador2022]

I really want a non-vintaged black dial N-G Super Antarctic 3/6/9, but now I am VERY ​blown away by how effin' gorgeous this Hanhart Preventor HD12 is! Looks like I'll be putting off my getting a SA 3/6/9 some more.... 😅😂😅

[@exusarmyranger]

Anti-Magnetic properties and Anti-Reflective on/or inside the crystal?

[@alexanderbelov1721]

Sold out

[@jackarnold3290]

Yes sold out, for good reason. My deposit is paid and am on the wait list for Blue on bracelet.

[@jeid3822]

Why there is no made in germany on the dial I've noticed😊

[@russparkin6722]

hey, do you stream games on another channel?

[@AverageBros]

@@russparkin6722 no, I don't but now am super curious as to who sounds like me 😂

[@russparkin6722]

@@AverageBros haha its a cod player called Phixate

[@mariog7213]

It’s almost perfect. All it’s missing for me to stop cross shopping it is an OTF clasp. Fortunately, I’ve paused my watch buying until my wife graduates from college so hopefully they’ll update that by the time I’m actually looking to buy

[@AverageBros]

@@mariog7213 not a deal breaker for me but it would be a nice addition for sure

[@timothyfoley3000]

Beats the Hamilton hands down. Put my deposit on it a month ago...

[@richtel3988]

With just a little more attention they could have used an on-the-fly ajustable clasp. Such a near miss!

[@danemehring]

The caseback & screw down crown logo is a very nice touch 👍

[@UwaseTae]

MAMACOO is one of my favorite watch manufacturers they do offer beautifull dials, good workmanship & moovements.That smooth sweeping second hand is truly mesmerizing！

[@Sumerdini]

HD12 or tegimented steel ❓

[@Sumerdini]

This watch screams for a Sellita SW300...

[@frankdirscherl2345]

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but for me and my wrist, I would have preferred this in 36mm.

[@khackett7]

This needs a ceramic dial

[@Neal_Sporin]

Your hands look sweaty

[@kims2r]

Completely off topic but your hand looks like you’re retaining a lot of fluid, you have almost no visible knuckles, maybe you’re eating way too much salt, maybe a kidney issue but definitely talk to your doctor next time:)

[@Vainch]

Wish the numerals weren't so bold and fat

[@hammalamiri12]

Then it would look boring and generic. Love watches that are that little bit different

[@Sumerdini]

@@Vainch this is a military watch

[@Vainch]

@Sumerdini and

[@KathernClary]

MAMACOO！Every time you exhibit one of these watches I become super tempted to get one.

[@johnhebert3855]

Meh.