Why Am I Still Using FS2004?!?

[@_PPHS]

FS2004 helped me got my first job. Hours and hours training IFR on Baron 58, when I did the assessment on sim, it was a analogic twin, very similar!!

[@rangey7096]

Pretty good graphics for a game older than me!!

[@AviationPro]

Haha :)

[@bullittfanatic]

With all the wonderful available addon software for FS9, the "old girl" sure can make people heads turn, big time!

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

It's 3 years older than me, I was born in 2006 😂

[@mrbrad4637]

Oh god.. I'm 38. I'm so old 😫😩🧑‍🦲🧑‍🦲🧑‍🦲

[@B747X]

I still use FS2004 as well and it is just great for me

[@angeavi46]

B747X Hi is it good? Because I would like a flight simulator

[@davidbjorkman2206]

Quite old, but indeed! I use it on my budget PC, and it runs just fine. Might need a bit of tweaking for modern PC's though, and you will need to fill it with addons for good graphics, i'd say it's good.

[@kyle07871323519]

I use FS2004 Update the waypoints to the latest Airac and use Aircraft with the latest update of Airac and FMC usage (which is a must) Never crashes and great feel and I prefer it to X which I have too.

[@piotrsikora3449]

@@angeavi46 it is amazing in gameplay you can put failures it it will not crash because it's older and it makes it better

[@Hurtstin]

never really thought about using my computer for older sim . but it makes since

[@carloscruz7317]

Nailed it! It’s 2019 and I run it still and it runs fantastic.

[@AviationPro]

Nice! :)

[@TedNewkirk]

Still using it. I have so many add-ons, plus the current real weather program and similar. I fly about 4 hours per week, still loving it!

[@slink5986]

I still use fs2004, and it’s 2019 and I don’t feel bad about myself lol

[@jaym6501]

Fs9 the Best fs made by Microsoft. All the rest not that good.

[@MRLUDDYMONKEY08]

@Vennyyo i get 100 fsx no mods and 100 fs9 with mods

[@zingythelemon7949]

True its still beats iL-2 1946 and its a newer game

[@zingythelemon7949]

@Vennyyo easily 60fps on 1080p low

[@YellyClips]

Me in 2020 on my low end PC and get good frames

[@TWAB707]

The eye candy in the newer systems is outstanding but I really like the actual aircraft performance characteristics in FS9 and besides, the new sims do not have older airliners ie 707, 727, L-1011 I'm old school ;)

[@dennypryaperdana9478]

Iam 65, I still fly on FS 2004...and still enjoying it.

[@sylvesterstewart868]

What do you fly on it?

[@dennypryaperdana9478]

@@sylvesterstewart868 I have an old PC with intel core2....4Gb of RAM, onboard graphic card, really not much. With all addon and aircraft and scenery now its totaling to26Gb, But its still enjoyable.

[@iwyarchive7382]

when I was 6 years old, I still remember my brother play FS2004, with Tupolev aircraft mods

[@AviationPro]

Haha, good old days ;)

[@nicks7117]

I got FS2002 a decade ago and I still play it

[@bullittfanatic]

I also still fly FS2002 (Pro) combined with magnificent FS Global and Traffic 2004. Awesome airplanes, detailed airports and scenery, are still available on dvd`s and the net. Water droplets effects on windshields, and corresponding sounds of rain on fuselage, are still remarkable to this day, in my humble opinion. No problems with FPS rates at full settings, that's for sure! And certainly no CDT's and annoying OOM`s either. My OS still runs on Windows XP just for FS2002, FS2004, and "temperamental" FSX... I suggest to you strongly to buy on E__y, the irresistible Emma Fields scenery dvd, made by defunct Lago. Check out Cushman Lake and field just next door, with the rustic log cabin and beautiful horse. You will not believe the eye candy and little humor waiting for you. So long fellow virtual pilot.

[@pedroelpro5283]

Well done!

[@magnoboavista]

0:52 I use the FS9 because of that too. It's nice!

[@AviationPro]

:D

[@jaym6501]

Not only that . But is also very light . Work with any pc .

[@RTCMAHL]

I still use FS2004 because I have 30 aircraft in my hangar and I'm not about to try to replace them all in FSX!

[@jaym6501]

Fs 2004 the Best and I have every simulator you can think of. And by the way just install add on then you have fax light in fs2004.

[@theobserver4214]

Can’t you just import them into FSX?

[@RTCMAHL]

@@theobserver4214 actually, a month after I wrote that I got FSX running. Now I have a full hanger and a new simulator comes out!!

[@theobserver4214]

@@RTCMAHL OOF

[@fsxaviator3866]

@@RTCMAHL MSFS isn’t that good, FSX and FS2004 is the beat

[@stephenbrown7809]

Still running fs2004 for the exact same reasons

[@tolwyn_doom]

I'm with you. FS2004 (FS9) is the only Sim I have installed. Still works great.

[@bullittfanatic]

Still a huge fan of FS9 here. My drawers are full of scenery, environment, and aircrafts addons, that barely affect FPS rates. Try that with chronic FSX with it's annoying CDT's and OOM's, even with all the tweaking in the world.

[@jaym6501]

Add more fs9 the only simulator have safe mood. And that is very important for add-on.

[@jaym6501]

@@jaroslawpiwar5811 It doesn't matter what system you are using as long light and work in proper order. Window 7. 64 ..

[@jj7020]

I'm still using FS2004 too for pretty much the same reasons as you. It's testament to the designers of this simulator that it's still relevant for so many people!

[@samryan7447]

good on you mate I still use fs 98 and 2000

[@bullittfanatic]

I still fly on occasions the much more "modern'" FS2002 Pro, with great addons... FS9 though is my favorite. No CDT's and OOM's issues as with my FSX (boxed). Do you have a separate PC for FS98 and FS2000, and what is your OS? Mine is still on XP.

[@skyaerops]

Alleluia ! Another member of the club ;-) it makes me feel less "alone and stupid" (LOL)... In the FS community and virtual pilots forums I often feel like being "the old-fashion guy still using FS9". And I'm happy to hear your words which are the same as mine when I have to justify myself... So THANK YOU !

[@dannycnoble]

still flying fs9 in 2020, too. love this sim.

[@bperry9088]

For me: FS2004 gives a better perspective for navigation, especially when using chart VOR or ILS approaches, day, night or in the soup. I also find the voice ATC gives real world to the above.

[@WorldTravelA320]

I still fly FS9 For three reasons. 1. I can I can turn it to maximum settings without it dragging on my computer. 2. I have a hanger full of Pan Am aircraft from the DC-3 to the A-380, no way am I hunting those aircraft in FSX down again. 3. It is very user friendly as are the add-ons

[@VvSoLvV]

Very good sir. I'm happy you are still enjoying FS2004.

[@AviationPro]

Thanks! ;)

[@peterpellionis7951]

Apart from the other advantages, the most important that I develop continously my plane with xml code gauges (B738, and now MAX8)

[@pedroelpro5283]

Great vid!! I still use FS2004 and very proud to do it.

[@AviationPro]

+Piloto de avión Thanks!

[@SnaxDesAvions]

Same here, I'm streaming sometimes FS2004 and people don't understand why I don't switch over P3D/FSX or X-Plane. I spent a lot of money on this game, it's rock solid and never crashes and I don't play FS2004 for graphics but for some IFR navigation.

[@hendy9380]

my friends dad is the head atc controller at EGCC uk and he still uses fs2004

[@elliotthayot8792]

I used to until FSX came out. FS9 was great though

[@WhiteKestrell]

+Elliott Hayot Used to run FSX until my PC went out. FS9 still is great and I'll never go back to FSX. FS9 or XP10 now.

[@tonightwefly]

Awsome

[@togaselected1337]

I completely understand where you are coming :) I`ve been using FSX/FSX SE for 4/5 years and I have to say the problems are endless :/ Its almost impossible to get everything working properly without a problem.

[@AviationPro]

+GeminiJetsAerLingus Thanks for your comment! :)

[@Jaykaymax]

Best flightsim ever

[@naturalroyalflush]

Looks as good as anything else. Fs9 best thing I ever bought. Having more fun than ever with old planes and celestial navigation.

[@praetoriancorps]

i got a 1500 euro system. with a i7 16 gigs of ram a ssd and a gtx860m And FSX is still giving me tons of performance issues. In the longer I run the game the worse my frame rate gets. expecially during landing. Usually it is better for me to save and reload before I start my final approach. And that is without alot of addons. So I have also decided to go back to fs2004. Yes I am going back to fs2004 in 2016. Because the performance in that is so great and with a few addons the graphics can be quite good for its time comparable to default fsx atleast.

[@RYRZ998]

No no no you can go for P3D, I have Xeon E3 + 970 and having performance issues with FSX but pretty smooth with prepar, as long as your computer is in relatively high spec , but seriously I need to check recent exchange rates, that thing worth 1700 euro is not making sense to me.

[@maxhammerum7705]

praetoriancorps lol thats literally stupid try x plane instead its newer and you can get much more fps because its a newer game

[@praetoriancorps]

Max Hammerum I know. I'm just too cheap right now to buy any new game. and i dont have room for 80 gigs on my system either.

[@maxhammerum7705]

praetoriancorps thats right

[@MaikuraTetsudoE231keiChannnel]

the problem with FSX is, that FSX is an old program that did not have a technology of "separating tasks to different cores." FSX were introduced just before the dual-core CPU were introduced. so if you are using 4-core or 8-core CPU, your computer most likely ONLY using one of those cores, which makes it REAL slow. so..... newer simulators? P3D has this problem pretty much fixed, but it is expensive..

[@pontiuspilot5887]

I've been away from Flight Sim for about 5 years and just fired up MSFS-9 again! From about 2004-5 to 2018 I spent hundreds (THOUSANDS?) of hours researching, building scenery (SBuilder), adding Mods and aircraft to fly replicated historic flights in Golden wings by Lynn and Bill Lyons! I just flew Jorge Chávez's 1910 flight across the alps in a Bleriot! I bought FSX and I'm going to try it this winter! We'll see if it can match what I get from FS9!

[@dasbinich9997]

I still use it also, it is just very good

[@AvgeekCarGeek]

I still use FSX and while it's newer compered to FS9 aka 2004 it's still great for me and like everything you said applied to me using FSX

[@AH6JLittleBird]

You do RIGHT! Good decision.

[@KH6DAN]

I purchased MS Flight Simulator 2020 recently. Was a continuous user of FS 98, FS 2000, FS 2002, FS 2004 and FS X. Made many scenery files for FS 98 and FS 2000. Took a break for about 7 years. I recently reinstalled FS 2004. It was a tad tricky to get it installed on Windows 10. I found the 2020 version scenery to be incredible. Frame rates are a tad low but the game is not choppy if I don't run the display settings too high. Too bad the FS 2004 version was much more fun with the joystick. Even the small Cessna planes are all over the place in the 2020 version. I still remember the keyboard controls and still struggling with the 2020 version.

[@MrDzmitry]

Used fs2004 for years... The thing that made me switch two years ago are smooth gauges in the new sim

[@southwestoklahomaairsoftcl9889]

Its 2022 and I have never changed flightsims. I bought the game in 2003 for early release I used it to practice flight lessons for my private pilots license. I've upgraded everything to make the graphics better. I even started making my own photo scenery. It looks nearly as good as FS2020 but runs way better plus I have hundreds of add-ons that are not available for FS2020 FS2004 for life!!!

[@TotRuAv]

I remember playing fs2004 when i was 5years old only and i remember american pacific airline that boeing 737 400 nostalgia was so... Now i use fsx

[@erwin55dk39]

Yeah!! Thank you for this video! I have been feeling 'old fashioned' for several years, not getting the newer FSX and still staying.... err: flying, the beautiful FS9. I had so many good hours and days with it. Usuall I love flying the little Piper Cub (landing is almost impossible though!), it gives me the feeling of flying. Last project was from Seattle to the Florida Keys, took me all in all almost three years. Later I learned how to fly helicopters. But only a few years ago I began to fly airliners, B737, a320, a330 and now first flight with B747. And I still have a lot of fun and the system is running well. Have been using Flightsim a lot, even uploaded some minor things there. Good to read the expert - you - likes it as well!! Greetings from ERwin Henkel, Denmark

[@AviationPro]

+daniela55dk Haha, you're welcome! :)

[@EasyRhino58]

well simulator 2004 work on windows 11 appreciate the answer if you can give it to me thank you very much.

[@derbovie6331]

I love the fs2004… with Track IR… alls on the right side and fly without problems… only flying….

[@CAXAviation]

Great info, I used to use FSX and enjoyed it, put a lot of money into it however I made the move to X-Plane because the flight dynamics are amazing. On a cloudy day in the 757 at Leeds I can achieve 30-35fps. I don't experience many crashes, around 1 every 150 flights which means that 9 out of 10 times I am fine. Thank you for your video and I have learned a lot from it.

[@AviationPro]

+CharlieClass156 Thank you! :) Thanks for sharing your story.

[@charlesbellot]

I agree so much !!!!! Still using it with all necessary addons. Si nice framerates and good graphics !

[@jackryan152]

Here it is 2017, and I still use it! FS9 can still bring a realistic experience and their are still new add ons that I havent seen. I am still buying new stuff all the time.

[@theevilmeister]

I moved to FSX and then P3D because they improved the error handling which meant fewer crashes due to scenery. If that weren't the case I would still be using it. FS9 was my favorite. Great video by the way. I am like you, the experience must be smooth to be acceptable. I can't understand how some people deal with extremely low frame rates just to use the newest, hottest thing. LM does indeed release too many versions of P3D. I wish they would wait longer to allow the community to catch up. One of the biggest changes in FS has been the move to 64 bit in P3D. Major change that really helps stability.

[@AviationPro]

To be honest, for me Prepar3D V4 (64-bit) is and feels like the new FS2004. It just works and it is smooth, no crashes etc. and I just love flying in it. Prepar3D V3 was good too, but limited to 4GB virtual memory and sometimes a crash. I totally skipped FSX and in hindsight I'm very glad I did :P. And indeed, FS2004 is still a great sim, I just loved its stability and smoothness :).

[@PaulTannenbaum-k1s]

I have been using the FS2004 for many years on our old computer, however, we have a new computer that has Windows 10. Can the FS2004 discs be installed on Windows 10?? Thank You.

[@moi7748]

Certainly nothing to be ashamed of. I too thought that your videos were with FSX - just goes to show that graphics aren't that important and its the quality of the flight that makes it look realistic. Anyway carry on regardless I love your videos!

[@AviationPro]

+Andrew James Haha, exactly! Thanks for commenting! :)

[@jovicstaddon5222]

Who is still using fs2004 in 2021? :)

[@dannycnoble]

3 yrs late but it is 2024 and i have been using FS9 from the start. I just got a brand new Virpil Hotas and that along with FSUIPC it is 2024 and i am still using FS9. Virpil sold me when they said their controls work with any windows based flight/space sim. No one else not honeycomb no one made that gaurantee.

[@AlbertoPirrotta]

I love this Simulator !!! You can update the scenaries, the aircrafts ecc.

[@losmosquitos1108]

You see, same situation now with FSX and FS 2020! Tons of good and expensive addon, ORBX, A2A aircraft, Accusim on one hand, running well enough with very high settings between 60 and 200 fps on a high end system and a still very buggy and faulty new sim with tons of eye candy on the other hand. Not prepared to spend thousands of dollars again for MS FS for all that beautiful addon. At least not with my crappy slow internet. Once the new sim will be in a working condition and good enough to play it offline or precached I‘ll see....maybe.... 😃 Thx for your work, regards from bush flying in South America, Mike 👍♥️

[@TheHurkulez]

I still use FS9. Cause I have been flying for a virtual airlne for 21 years. I love the stability that FS9 offers on long hauls... I don't get CTD's on final.... And the 2nd reason I still fly FS9. I have spent thousands of dollars on payware addons.... (Every PMDG aircraft, other PW aircraft, Live Traffic, Live Wx, Orbx Scenery, Flight1 Scenery, Many of my custom liveries skinned by me, Etc...)

[@VeracityMedia]

Whatever makes ya happy man.

[@AviationPro]

+VeracityMedia :)

[@CarlosMendez-po7qy]

thanks for your comments.

[@michaelzaug8750]

I agree! FS 2004 and pilot edge are what I use to spend less time toward PPL.

[@peter9962]

Haha Eliezer, I'm 68 and I'm an FS9 user. Started out with (FS98, then FS2000, FS2002, FS9 and FSX. After a week or so, I switched back to FS9. I still take the odd FSX flight, but FS9 is the one I use. Also the spot view is more to my liking. That was probably half of the reason I switched back, and also I spent a lot of hours manipulating a few scenery areas and adding my own airports. My scenery designs weren't compatible with FSX, so that was also a big part of staying with FS9. All in all, I just prefer it to the others. I'm running Windows 7, but loved XP. The new FS2020 seems kind of interesting though, but now we are talking about a minimum of a new computer (again!), another OS, and who knows what else. Addons, and lots of extra time spent tweaking are also factors. Good video. I gave a thumbs up and subscribed.

[@francescoseminara9937]

Anche se ti rispondo dopo 7 anni che hai fatto questo video che anch'io sto usando fs9 x me lo reputo a parere mio il miglior simulatore x semplicità nEl modificare aspetti e parametri e soprattutto è l'unico sim che puoi pomparlo al massimo senza calo di frame, e poi Cia tutto e lo puoi personalizzare come vuoi. Ed è anche un onore possederlo x quando uscì si celebrarono i 100 anni dal 1 volo dei fratelli Waits. Quindi è x me un grande onore nell'usarlo ancora. Fs9 Forever ❤

[@stephenmiles8424]

good video I've been using fs2004 for 10 years, I can fill it with add-ons real trees grass etc real airport lighting the list goes on I could never run the fsx on the funds I had but of course along with new add-ons all the time 2004 I wouldn't change to fsx besidesfs2004 gets better and better thanks for sharing your videos their awesome

[@AviationPro]

Thank you!

[@joelevy750]

Can I run FS 2004 including my old captain sim C130 add on - onto windows 11.?

[@letalstvo813]

I use FSX:SE and have no crashes. I only get lower frames at dense urban areas and I have a pc for a little less than 1000 €. I use orbx global, vector, lc, asn, pmdg ngx, majestic dash 8, rex soft clouds, flytampa and aerosoft airports.. all on high but not max settings.

[@AviationPro]

+Johnny Wing Thanks for your comment! :)

[@AmauryChihuahua]

I "grew up" with fsx(even tho im a 12 y/o And i love it

[@lonz1988]

I made the switch to P3D a couple of years back. It's a dream now that I have a new system. I still use FS9 as my "classic" sim etc early 90's AI with Radar Contact, RFP 747 Classic, Level D... P3D may be superior in terms of addons and graphics but I have to say I still have just as much fun with FS9 :-)

[@AviationPro]

+Lorenzo Nesta Thanks for your comment! :)

[@bullittfanatic]

Even with patience, tweaking, various adjustments, and experimenting, FSX (in my own experience and others too...) I will sooner or later, be rewarded with a "CDT" or "OOM" event. It is on very rare occasions that this happens on FS9, usually at certain add-on airports, with add-on aircraft, with rain and detailed clouds, combined with lightning. Again, these on very rare occurrence. I have almost "thrown the towel" with FSX, having to use it in clear weather and with low scenery settings, to suppress those exasperating issues. Must admit though that those wet runways on FSX, sure are stunning. With my drawers full of add ons for FS9, it is quite beautiful to be honest with you. The old girl doesn't really show her age with them. Thank you for keeping the flame alive, as well as all the other faithful virtual pilots still dedicated to good old FS2004. Frame rates of heaven, to put mildly...

[@AviationPro]

I have switched to Prepar3D in the mean time. I must say, it's kind of like FS9, but than in a new coat without the OOMs and CTDs that FSX users often experience. I have made quite a couple of flights with it so far, never had any issues. So, if you ever decide to upgrade, leave FSX as it is, and go for Prepar3D ;)

[@bullittfanatic]

Thank you for taking time to reply and excellent suggestion. My old PC (Dinosaure) is certainly not able to cope with the system requirements of fantastic Prepar3D. I have been revisiting some of my old fighter plane/combat helicopter "games" lately. Wings over Vietnam and Europe, LOMAC Gold, Strike Fighters 1, Comanche 4, Apache Havoc, and Gunship to name just a few, were really ahead of their times in graphics and executions. I know that this is entirely another subject than MSFS, but my antiquated Windows XP is awesome with them. Thanks again for your reply, and all your beautifully made instructive video presentations. So long fellow virtual(real?) pilot.

[@bullittfanatic]

Did you have both FSX boxed and SE on the same OS? If you did, you must of created a partition just so that all hell would not break loose on your PC I imagine? I will soon get an old/new PC with windows 7-64 with FSX SE and get PreparD version 2 (because of my specs). I agree with you entirely with the complicated licenses agreements of L.M. I will just fork out the $200.00 bucks, it will be my own X-Mas present. I still have XP just for MSFS-2002-FS9-and FSX Deluxe. Tons and tons of add-ons for all three. I also love Wings over Vietnam, Israel, and Europe, Strike Fighters and Gold, and Eagle Gold. All of them by famed designer Tsuyoshi Kawahito. Sublime on XP via Third Wire productions. So long fellow virtual pilot. CYUL.

[@jarhead565]

I still use FS2004 because my childhood and flight training was built around this game. Also, I like to keep the separation of realism to simulation so that way I do not get discouraged in getting my actual private pilot license. Real life is the best flight experience than any simulator.

[@SuperVorticon]

You guys should try flying FS2 on an IBM PC with CGA graphics. Extremely low frame rate, barely distinguishable details, 4 colors (yes, that's 4) etc... Believe it or not I still fly it on occasion just for kicks! We have come a long way, so FS2004 is just fine by me :)

[@lolomandarine2605]

Ich still use it with win 10. More as 30 Gigabyte Addons. And its still great. Thank you from Germany.

[@johnpro2847]

I have FSX but do not use it because of slow frame rates ...FS9 runs well on Win 10 (need direct play) As stated it has high frame rates and realistic flying experience.

[@gavinparmar1316]

I still FS2004 installed to fly PMDG's MD-11 and Level-D's 767 because neither aircraft is available for my main sim P3DV4.5.

[@LUXAviators]

I've got a 1200€ system and I run FSX with PMDG737, ORBX and a lot of Addon sceneries at 30-35 FPS ;-) Even on a cloudy day using ASN!

[@AviationPro]

+LUX Spotting OK, maybe my $5000 estimate was a bit exagerated, but still, 30 fps is not 60 fps, and then I still have the other points that I have mentioned. Also: in FS2004 you have raindrops on the VC windscreen! :)

[@LUXAviators]

Yea that feature is cool but to be honest even with a 5000$ system you won't get 60FPS! ;-) 35 is already very satisfying ;-)

[@luisfilipem]

still operational for me..not willing to give up more than 300 sceneries all over the world and the aircraft ..i like this new Flight Simulator, but i do not have a powerfull computer to run it..but from what i`ve seen, having the real lanscape depicted on flight is very good..but if you dont have a very good PC..

[@frankmarafiote3992]

Watched your video about FS2004 and flying some of the classic planes. You inspired me to dig out my copy and load it on my PC. It installed just fine, but the sim itself would not launch. If you did anything special to prepare your PC, l'd love to try it myself.

[@AviationPro]

You need to get a no-cd patch for FS2004 in Windows 10, Windows 10 doesn't like old games with discs.

[@frankmarafiote3992]

@@AviationPro Yes! I forgot that I had that patch. Everything is working great, especially enjoying revisiting Meigs field in Chicago. Also, I could see in my list of files lots of add-on AC and scenery. Thanks again for the inspiration!

[@panagiotiskouk6965]

hey I am using fs2004 I love it its awesome its all about framerate and addon scenery

[@marcolovatto9183]

Thank you very much! Worked!!😃

[@tinocr1998]

I'm 100% agree with you

[@AviationPro]

+Valentín Air Thanks for your comment! :)

[@bendolinko6315]

i always save the flight during my flight for incase there is a crash....

[@pavelgrulich2989]

Travel Service (or also Smartwings) is Czech company. Always when we drive in Prague around the airport, I can see their main hangar. I see that you use a lot of Czech content and add-ons :) Maybe you should try flying a short route from Prague (LKPR) to Pardubice (LKPD) (I live in Pardubice :D)

[@AviationPro]

+Pavel Grulich Haha, yes I do. I have made quite a few short flights in the past from like LKKV to LKPR and then to LKTB, but I haven't tried out LKPD yet ;)

[@scopex2749]

Yaaaayyyy great video 2020 and STILL ROCKING WITH FS2004! I also recreate WW2 airfields in the UK and some other countries. I go out and research every base and then if i need to i recreate buildings in Sketch up to put onto the airfields for maximum authenticity and respect to those who never returned or flew from those bases. The best design programs were only made for FS2004! I was photographing and surveying at the derelict RAF/ USAF Grafton Underwood one time and was honoured to be there when a Willys Jeep rolled up driven by a young Brit guy and his 2 passengers were there for the anniversary of the base closing. Real Veteran B17 pilots! RESPECT! I told them about my project and they helped me create buildings from their base! Even the camp cinema! I do what i do to honour all Vets United States and all other allies who made the ultimate sacrifice. Flight Simulator 7 allows mw to do this, later ones DONT. Like Windows 7 I ONLY use windows 7 as i had to give up my XP😢 Microsoft need to recognise their BEST PROGRAMS and OS systems and just update them! Everyone knows everything after Win7 are just pants.......MORE bugs than a truck windshield in mid summer and soooo unreliable. I dont want an OS or a sim program that gives me the ‘blue screen of death’ or dumps a design i have been working months or YEARS on🤷🏼‍♂️ I am an ex Royal Air Force aircraft engineer and flew choppers towards the end of my career. Now i am doing my private pilot licence and our flying school have a simulator aircraft set up for bad weather days to practice navigation and IFR. What sim programme do they use? FS2004 of course. Microsoft......Bill Gates.....PLEASE LISTEN to your devoted fans who KNOW what they are talking about, i also build and program PC’s and computer systems and most of our industrial systems still use WINDOWS XP! Because it was THE BEST the same that FS9 IS. How about a make over of FS2004\ Win 7 keeping the, fundamentally unaltered just a little improved? 😃 if you need suggestions just ASK us Mr Gates Thank You! The new FS 2020 needs to be totally AWSOME and maybe have built in design editors.......to equal FS2004! Oooh yes and my add on aircraft and aircraft textures and repaints only work in FS2004 I served on the Vickers VC10 in the RAF and the add on aircraft only works in FS2004 so ........I use it and am keeping it!

[@djtnm]

it´s me with FS 2002, I still use with addons, framerates ok and im happy with a basic PC( not spending a lot of money).

[@martinlagrange8821]

I also use FS2004 on Windows 10 x64 Pro - and its smooth as silk, fast and stable. Graphics are superb - its an epitome ! Much like why IL2:1946 and Lock On have as large a fan-base :-)

[@bullittfanatic]

I am a huge fan of FS9, in fact my OS is still on XP just for FS2002-FS9-and FSX. I will be getting a new/old PC on windows 7-64 bit, and I am ready for serious computer gymnastics to get it to fly in W 7 combined with my tons of add-ons. You must be a computer guru to have succeeded in making function on W-10X64. Just beware of automatic updates that might complicate things all of a sudden. I am also big fan of flying combat sims by famed designer Tsuyoshi Kawahito: Wings over Vietnam-Europe-Israel, Strike Fighters Project 1 and Gold Edition, plus Eagles Gold. All of them on Third Wire Productions. Bon vols virtuel!

[@WobblyLawbaby]

can it support for windows 10 ?

[@samryan7447]

every thing you said is true

[@superxico52]

I Love FS9!

[@harp2707]

I've had it since ~2006. The box is worn and dusty by now, but the Level-D 767 has become a bit of a sound design baby for me lately, and I've been putting in way more hours in FS9 than I ever thought I would the past two years lol If I knew my way around that new sound engine MSFS uses then I'd love to work with it too. I prefer that game for my low-and-slow VFR flights using sectionals.

[@chrmantilla]

I used to fly FS9 in a laptop, then i bought a gamming pc and switched to FSX, bought software and hardware...took me months and research to stop it from crashing...then another problem showed up: framerates... I'm having good framerates but having my graphics below medium...i would like to go back to FS9, but i would feel like like i waste my money

[@knightsson1045]

I still play this game its awesome

[@LawrenceRomagnolo-zt6cl]

Me, too...still in 2024!

[@fsfan73]

Groot gelijk, wanneer 2004 goed bevalt lekker mee blijven vliegen. De scenery en landclasse zijn op 37000 feet niet relevant daarentegen de airports weer wel. Echter de meeste addon ontwikkelaars borduren verder op FSX/Steam en P3D. De IFly is in deze dan een zeer goed alternatief om in 2004 mee te blijven vliegen..

[@AviationPro]

+Vincent Gerrits Jazeker, dat klopt. Op een gegeven moment wordt het waarschijnlijk wel tijd om te switchen omdat de ontwikkelaars inderdaad alleen verder gaan met FSX and P3D, maar voorlopig nog niet ;)

[@CDNSpartan]

FS2004 is what I use as well I have FSX SE but I only get about 30 frames in the NGX/777 by PMDG which is decent but I like fs2004 because I can get around 80-100 in the PMDG 737

[@AviationPro]

That is true, although I found that Prepar3D actually is very smooth even with those kind of framerates. :)

[@dohavik]

I m also using FS2004. The reason why I use it, is because I have many add-ons and I am refusing to start all over every time to rebuy everything for a new simulator.

[@secfeed6987]

Yep, still the best in my opinion. I never bought another Flight Sim after that. I was holding out for something a lot better before I did. I think the new FS2020 will be worth the upgrade.

[@snareromie5295]

Your not alone I still use it

[@KronesianLTD]

I played Fs2004 until about early 2015. So far with P3D/FSX, I constantly run out of memory, crash and a bunch of other stuff. That was the main reason it took me so long to switch.

[@AviationPro]

+Kronesian Agreed ;)

[@dominicsmith7793]

Well done; excellent video!

[@AviationPro]

Thanks! :)

[@WobblyLawbaby]

Hello every instructors Would you please help me about to run the FS2004? I buy this real game ( four disks ) and installed perfectly in Win 10 complete one by one. But unfortunately It doesn't work ( run). I deleted and installed so many times. But it still cannot run in or open the game in my computer. I can see the fs2004.exe but no function. Would you help me please Sir.

[@SimRacingPakistan]

Very well explained... Currently I m FSX:SE and there always some kind of issues now and then. FS9 though is butter and bread but I was planning to go for X-Plane and now change my mind to go Prepar3D v4 because i still hate the ATC on X Plane and you cannot fly with a keyboard in X Plane !..

[@AviationPro]

Personally, Prepar3D V4 is the new FS2004 :D

[@voodootfs]

I see your point with staying with FS2004. I ran FS2004 for many years after FSX was released, until the NGX from PMDG. Then seeing the difference between the NGX in FSX and the iFly 737 in FS2004 was enough to make me switch. It was a love hate relationship with FSX and took me a while to get things working well, however there is a lot of help on the net and a lot of help in the community. I held off moving to P3D originally as I say it as a rebranding on FSX, except with many addons not working or not being licenced. I did get FSX:Steam when it was on offer and that was a lot easier to deal with and a lot smoother. Then LM released P3Dv3, developers got on board with their addons and I would never look back. It is easy to install, has next to no tweaking and runs so much better with no stutters.

[@AviationPro]

+MisfitTube Thanks for your comment! Glad to hear that P3D v3 works well :)

[@Drrck11]

I still use FS2004. works great.

[@hendy9380]

i use fsx se and i run it at full settings with woai traffic vpiolt for atsim pmdg and aerosoft and have never had a crash or a run out of memory

[@AviationPro]

+Hendy I don't have a lot of info on FSX SE, but thanks for the report ;)

[@sarcasticommentator]

I really wish I would've done this before buying fsx addons. I really am getting tired of the bad framerates

[@GringoMuchachos]

You can run FS9 with a modest pc or laptop with a tons of addons, scenery, aircrafts etc. The next Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, you are going to need a monster PC!

[@ikedamand4917]

Could not agree more.

[@windowsxseven]

how dare technology get more advanced, right

[@oldowl4290]

I hung on for dear life to FS2004 until ~2014 when I switched to Prepar3D. I always had way too many issues with FSX as did most people. I recently built a budget $300 system for a friend with an i3 4330 (socket 1150) and gave him all my add-ons. I set it all up for him and it was very enjoyable to dust it off and re-witness the true magic that the Aces team put into it. Its 15 years old now and is still a great sim. What are the exact weather and scenery add-ons you are using?

[@musicalaviator]

I used FS2004 from... well. 2004 :P till around 2010 when PMDG 737NGX came along. The main addons I miss from FS2004 are the Project Tupolev Tu154M (Yes I know the B2 works in FSX, but the M is a nicer aircraft). The KLN90B (part of the Tu154M, along with other GA aircraft) was very nice too, and the best version of it is still only compatible with FS2004. NL2000 for a long time didn't have an EHAM working in FSX. (only released last year for FSX) For me though, having a working GTN650 in an A2A P28A, and GNS430 in the A2A C182 is useful for some real world flying and familiarization with the units. and the systems fidelity of the PMDG 777 and Majestic Q400... and A2A P28A(!) is too much to give up. Oh yea, and Orbx's Australian scenery is just so much better than anything FS2004 had. Along with Ants Aussie scenery and OZx, I'm able to pull the GTN or GNS units up on my A2A Products, whip out a real world Visual Navigation chart for anywhere in Australia, and simulate flights I have done, or intend to do in the real world, and everything just works the same, as far as planning and systems go. Being able to fly to places that don't exist in any FS2004 scenery like YGDO Gundaroo, or see amazing levels of detail to the point of being able to identify not only visual waypoints, but the context that surrounds those points to the point of being surprisingly familiar with places I've never actually flown to before. Well... FSX (and by extension P3D) is the only thing that fulfills my own simming goals. But I can see someone flying Europe might find FS2004 perfectly fine, especially if wanting things like iFly 737, 747, or GA aircraft with the KLN90b, anything Russian (the best Russian aircraft and scenery is still FS2004 stuff by a country mile!) and so on. I guess it depends which region you fly in as to what scenery is available for any given platform. As far as Australia goes though, It's FSX hands down. Especially once you leave the Capital City airliner routes and venture down to smaller airports in smaller aircraft. As far as you're concerned though, obviously based in the Netherlands, your entire home country is covered by NL2000 for FS2004. For me though, an FS2004 Australia without access to a working GTN or GNS in a P28A or C172. Orbx pay, and OZx free scenery. be too much of a sacrifice. :(

[@AviationPro]

+musicalaviator Thanks for your comment! :) Yes you're right, in Europe a lot of sceneries are available for FS2004, and indeed NL2000 gives me a great scenery of the Netherlands that still amazes me at every foggy morning departure, it's simply beautiful. I can see that in other regions more airports and general sceneries are being developed which are FSX/Prepar3D only, and that's perfectly fine because I know FS2004 is getting too old for developers to make new products for. I guess each flight simulator user has to sacrifice something somewhere. That's just something us community members have to live with I guess. ;)

[@Thunderbirds747]

And it had cool visual effects, too.

[@TheGeorge360z]

playing fs2004 with the same sidewinder joystick since 2004 I was 5 back then

[@AviationPro]

Nice! :)