DCS World With The Next Level Racing Boeing Military Edition Flight Simulator Chair - HONEST REVIEW

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JUICE'S SYSTEM INFO:
GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 12900K @ 4.6 GHZ
Memory: 64 GB DDR5 RAM @ 5200 MHz
Current resolution: 2560 x 1440, 144Hz
Head Tracker: FaceTrackNOIR w/Logitech C270 Digital Webcam
ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-E Gaming w/M.2 Drives for OS and DCS
Flight Controls: Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & MFG Crosswind Pedals
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Memory: 32 GB RAM
Current Resolution: 1080p at the moment
Head Tracker: META Quest 2/Track
Flight Controls: Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & CH Products Pedals

[@Bren39]

As much as I appreciate your candidness in the intro...your review attempt is tainted. Since you hope to work with them in the future - there's no way you can review this product fairly and honestly. Stopped the video at the intro - bye.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

This seat sells itself...to those who know how to enjoy it. As for impartial input from me, I think you got it wrong buddy...if you see my honest review on NLR's Haptic Pad they sent, you'd see that. Not hoping to work with them...as on the payroll...I am working with them as a volunteer on design and integration inputs. I'm in communication with NLR and share ideas and feedback solely as a pro-bono consultant with a background in Aviation Human Factors. No profit except for the free equipment. If we were looking for income, we'd have turned on Advertising on our channel by now...but AWG is a free KZbin Resource for your enjoyment.

[@HadronFlux]

I recently set up my military edition. I ended up 3D modeling and printing a keyboard extension to bring it closer to me as I use the side stick approach and find the keyboard was too far away. I have Virpil stuff and will also be tweaking the mouse area to increase the height. Maybe I'm old, but it kind of needs arm rests and wrist rests. Mostly because this is my main computer, so I need it to be comfortable enough to sit in for most normal use. The frame is freaking rigid - no creaks or anything. I ended up tilting it backwards by putting spacers under the front and middle feet to give it a bit more of a reclined feel. The tilting keyboard mount works nice for getting in and out.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Sounds like you are making it work for you...are you optimistic that this unit can be outfitted or modified for most flight sim peripherals?

[@HadronFlux]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP ​ I was able to get Virpil stuff sorted as there are enough holes in the plates to get something to line up. There are many holes on the side of the chair make it pretty straight forward to mount more stuff - for example that alternate/spare green side mount I plan on mounting behind my throttle on the left side to put a button panel on it to free up the vertical extension part that you're using for the mouse surface. I don't have a desk with my setup, so I designed mounts for the Cougar panels to attach to the keyboard tray. I also made a mount to put my Virpil iPad/keyboard holder in the middle like you have on your desk. I love that it came with tons of extra fasteners as adding all these bits saves having to run to the hardware store to get equivalents. Here are some pictures: drive.google.com/file/d/1gCx_fyBKM2KpSvggSVKwKKGq03jB1f4x/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/141HHvIxT2rmmQ1uHmt_LvWSppHR6VwKi/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/1_JwrlSMCcCYvD8RGAv9duKTjWgI-MVSP/view?usp=share_link drive.google.com/file/d/1e2FXd4IokJ_GjK-SSybWAAu5KQ1hBi8A/view?usp=share_link

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

That looks very sweet...I want a curved monitor similar to your setup, but I want it to be full height as well. Thanks for showing these an I hope everyone checks them out. Consider uploading the 3D print info to the ED Forums for others with this chair...it's a great thing you've got. ~Juice

[@joshuabornographic]

Biggest complaint I have right now is the center stick mount is too high for those of us who use extensions to get the long center stick feel. The chair itself looks awesome, so if they did sell it separately I would be a potential buyer.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Universal mounting in the center spot. It’s probably the biggest discussion point I have with them right now. The current set up, does allow you to move the crossbar down two more times to lower the stick for extensions, but it puts it farther away from you unless you use a helicopter style curb stick that brings the stick back in your lap more.

[@Ginuwine-kx2iv]

i bought it on of the first ones, i too use the center stick i have just opted to go without the extension at this time until i come up with a DIY setup. Like mounting it to the base and putting it on the floor or something.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Good ideas!

[@ColinM9991]

Although I don't have this chair, I did have an idea as to whether mounting some aluminium profiles would be an option. Some of the holes on the sides certainly look like they're spaced enough for a profile. But obviously a native solution would be better.

[@dannyd7714]

I have this chair, you can use the bottom holes to mount the center mount, and you can add a 100mm extension. With the seat all the way forward you have plenty of reach for a straight extension. It perfectly puts the stick between your thighs so you can rest your hand on your thigh while doing AAR for precise movements.

[@dannyd7714]

I have this chair, you can use the bottom holes to mount the center mount, and you can add a 100mm extension. With the seat all the way forward you have plenty of reach for a straight extension. You can angle the stick mount back slightly so the stick comes towards you more. It perfectly puts the stick between your thighs so you can rest your hand on your thigh while doing AAR for precise movements.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Thanks for your input. I will likely always fly side stick but this helps many considering buying the seat. ~Juice

[@dannyd7714]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I have the Warthog stick side mounted for F-16 and a VKB MCG Ultimate on a Gunfighter III base center mounted for Helo's and planes that use center sticks.

[@DieselThunderAviation]

@@dannyd7714 I was curious about that, as at a glance it did not look like you would have been able to center mount any stick. Thank you for the info!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Lots of good options for center stick and check out the community tab for what one guy has recommended with extensions. Everyone should own a hacksaw.

[@Ginuwine-kx2iv]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP #thumbs up I just bought one.

[@fl398motorsports3]

Great video. I contacted NLR about just buying the seat,they informed me the Boeing seat couldn’t be sold separately… I have a motion rig and am interested in getting a seat with the center cutout. NLR said they have a future flight cockpit setup coming out that the seat could be sold separately, it is all in black but I’d prefer the green cushion. Just thought I’d pass the news in case anyone was looking for a center cutout seat for their existing rig.

[@Asger777]

Did they say when that new option to buy the seat separately is expected?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I’m checking with them next week.

[@fl398motorsports3]

That's good news... I'm real excited to get this seat for my flight rig. I'll be eager to hear if you get some positive news.

[@americube]

I just got the Boeing Commercial edition, and I had the same issue as you with the mount for the stick/mouse mount on the right being too low, I'm going to try what you did with the 2X4, but my recommendation for them is the side mounts for HOTAS need to be able to come up higher. The bottom seat comfort has also been lacking for me, had to add extra padding. Other than those two things its a huge upgrade and well worth the price.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Good idea. Or they could widen the keyboard tray.

[@americube]

​@@AIRWARFAREGROUPYes! I actually tried to use the keyboard mount last night by sliding the keyboard over to make space for the mouse, but it didn't work with the angle.

[@Pricklyhedgehog72]

I'm definitely interested in it if I revamp my office in a makeover the long-haired admiral agrees to.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Mutiny!

[@Mark_Point]

I'm actually interested in what looks like a heavily modified warthog throttle... Not seen anything like that before. Thanks for vid.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Mine has 3D printed covers over the switches to guide custom switch levers.

[@nyandyn]

Definitely on my watchlist. Let's hope that someone comes up with a Winwing Taurus side mount!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yeah, I think that’s the one with the high throttle arms and touchdown kind of low. It have to be mounted pretty low on the side of the seat wouldn’t it??

[@StuartBoyer]

Yeah that’s the only reason I haven’t bought this seat. Seen people already easy mount the winwing top gun mip to the center keyboard not if someone would make a way to add the Taurus.

[@NiklasAndersson7]

It would be really cool to see if this chair works with Next Level Racing Motion Platform v3 (NLR-M001V3) . That would be dope.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Agreed!!!

[@NextLevelRacing]

Hi there, the motion adapters will be available soon!

[@JPsTechReviews]

Crosswind pedals are so smooth, I found the pedals alot easier to to control with the damper.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I love mine...SN 0934 White.

[@Magicks]

the logistical nightmare of letting everyone pick and choose the parts it comes with would be a terrible idea.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Perhaps but they basically have gone to something slightly similar.

[@jolu2469]

Juice, Did you use your PC/Desk for anything else (non-gaming)? If so, can you still use the PC with the Next Level chair (as you have it now)?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yes, along with Email and gaming, I write newsletters, work on documents, and edit photos/video, all from the seat...although not as much as I did before when I had my business...retired life is great. Juice

[@otterfishingjourneys1362]

Just got mine going I love it, must be nice to get hand outs sorry not sorry

[@blownrat671]

Would love to see the two side mount's be on a swingout mounting system. Where you could swing them out to get in and out of easier.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

You might check their website and KZbin channel...look in our Playlist tab for more information.

[@Autopilot_Austin]

I agree that having components optional depending on an individuals peripherals would be nice and the removal of the belts lol. I think if the price could get down to closer to $550-$650 I would pull the trigger right now! Edit: I also think some better adapted components for center mounting and removal of the high seat back would be a very welcome change.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

The lumbar pad in the picture looks misleading. But the seat back height is similar to an ejection seat and VR users bang their heads against it.

[@LFOD1776]

I was able to use 2080 aluminum extensions to mount the take off panel directly to the throttle base. Makes it much easier to reach and moves stuff off my desk.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Sounds interesting, have you posted any pictures somewhere people can check them out. I think the basic seat (any seat kit for that matter) is meant to work with general, common gear on the market. No matter what brand we purchase, it will take ingenuity and creative thinking to make everything work 100% of the time. Thanks for sharing and do let us know if you upload a photo or video about your setup...sounds cool. ~Juice

[@LFOD1776]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYWlfIttpst2kKs I posted a video and tagged you. Hope that's OK.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yep, got it...nice, always free to send links, and videos. They automatically go into a hold box for review. I check it often...that extension looks great. I thought about getting the TPR pedals and sell my Crosswinds...but I like the non-metal pedals on my socked feet. ~Juice

[@SiemaZiomek]

One big suggestion from VR sim player- the heasrests on these have to be foldable- if you are not using Necksafe software you will hit the headrest wit your 60,000,000 dollar VR goggle and it is not only annoying but you also risk damaging equipent.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Think if an ejection seat was back behind you ;)

[@bigsillybum]

Is the "civilian" version the same as the Military one, in terms of equipment/ brackets supplied? I would prefer the sheepskin one but with center mounted joystick.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yes but I will confirm this week.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

nextlevelracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/FINAL-FOR-PRINT-FLIGHT-SIMULATOR-BOEING-COMMERCIAL-EDITION-INSTRUCTIONS-15062022.pdf

[@seattime4075]

Have a good rig already, so if they sold this chair by itself I would purchase it straight away.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

That is the most popular request they get...they need to open up the market for just chairs.

[@oseanmc]

NAIL ON THE HEAD! I love the chair, specifically the center stick cutout. I want to mount the chair to my DOF Reality H6 motion platform. I emailed Next Level Racing to inquire about an Ala-Cart purchase but the emailed back saying that was not a possibility due to licensing issues. I would love to give Next Level some of my Dollhairs for the seat but not $800 just to get the chair!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

At least we’re asking those hard questions and I think they are listening.

[@fl398motorsports3]

I have the DOF Reality P6 and am looking to do the same. NLR told me they will be having a non Boeing branded flight rig coming out where the seat will be available separately for purchase. It’s all black, but I think the green looks much better.

[@oseanmc]

@@fl398motorsports3 I agree about the the green but for me its the slim profile as well as the center stick notch. I can not find a seat with a center stick notch anywhere. Did NLR give a timeframe when they would be selling the seat ala-cart?

[@fl398motorsports3]

@@oseanmc I’m sorry, they didn’t… just said “near future”. Likewise, I’m looking for the slim form with the center cutout too.

[@zacharykornblatt8584]

Thanks for the review. Considering buying. I'm super curious though where you got your gear switchgear to the left of your keyboard; did you do some custom work or actually find that retail?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Hey, about 99% of what you see is included in the box. I did a little bit of a difference add on a piece of wood for my mouse pad. In the video, I mention about working with next level racing in the future, and that is in the capacity as an advisor on how to make their flights and products better, and not as an employee. AWG will always be its own channel and not reliant on income from others. You can reach me on discord through.4YA and ask any questions if you have any.

[@warcrime3849]

cup holder over the pc...brave man.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

LOL, I actually thought of that and made sure the PC was subducted under the desk a bit so any "spillage" should go to the floor where I have to face my wife next on that one. Bottle-To-Throttle is what, 8 feet?

[@havinganap]

I would like to know what the comfort level of the seat is. It looks the part, but the real thing is suitable for several hours non-stop use. I would consider this, if I could also double up as a compact office solution, and for this the chair needs to be more than just OK. Also, the quoted warranty is "1 year", which really gives me pause for the longevity of the seat, and especially the padding.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Comfortable is going to be different for everyone. I have sat in the chair for up to four hours without any discomfort. I’ll let you know in a year if it holds up for durability. How long are office chairs warranted for? I tend to baby my stuff to keep it looking nice for years. Look for the middle year review. ~Juice

[@havinganap]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Thanks, that would be great! Agree, its very subjective thing to assess. Typically more high end office chairs have 3-5 years guarantee, including wear on the seat padding and finish. I think you will quickly be able to tell if there is significant degradation. Still, it appears to be a great product, I appreciate the work your doing here!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I expect this setup will take me to DCS retirement.

[@cre8ive34]

I'd consider buying one if the seat was more cushioned. I'm your same size with a bad back. And I have a toyota seat in mine and it find it uncomfortable after extended sessions. I know the seat from the corolla it came from is more bolstered and cradles the back more. I'd even be willing to pay a bit more for a better seat.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

You probably could customize your own chair with extruded aluminum and custom car seat. forum.dcs.world/topic/195468-sim-pit-chairs-or-custom-built/

[@jeromegraves2826]

I know this seems silly - but for me, the biggest issue I have is purely aesthetic with regard to the Next Level Racing embroidered element on the seat headrest. It just feels tacky and kind of not "flight sim" oriented. I get it's their brand and all that, just wish that it was instead like a velcro patch system or something to where you could put anything you wanted - a flag, squadron emblem etc. More customizable and stylistically varied. Still an awesome bit of kit though in general! /2cents

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Velcro is a great idea. I’d put my flight suit patches up there.

[@davidb6076]

Only thing stopping me at the moment is lack of ability to mount my collective and throttle on the side. Hopefully they come up with a solution then will be an instant buy for me

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I’ll have to bring this up with them.

[@JayRacer]

Don’t listen to him, folks. His “old age” claim is hogwash. He’s decorated prior service and is outdoors as much as he is indoors. There’s “actual age” and “relative age.” His relative age is a fraction of his actual age. Other than that, he was being forthcoming.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

It’s not the years but the mileage!

[@vikingcat794]

My complaint is the seat is not available by itself. I asked NLR directly, and they said it was due to the Boeing licensing.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I’m going to ask for clarification next week. They have a Non-Boeing seat which is basically the same.

[@doctor6060]

Thank you for this very informative video. Im currently getting myself setup for a home Milsim pit and this is definitely on my wish list. I am interested to know what the seat hight is from the floor (sorry of this has been asked before, I looked but couldn't see anything). I also hope that someone can find a solution to the centre bar being too high to use a stock with an extension. I am waiting on my WinWing Orion2 to arrive which also has an extension and absolutely need to find a work around so it can be used. Keep up the great work :)

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Hey. Good feedback. There is a community post on our channel with the details and dimensions.

[@simonegaliazzo2520]

Nice video! There's a way to mount a 23" 16:9 touch monitor in front where you have the keyboard? I'm using Helios panels with touchscreen in front of me, and a curved 40" in front for views.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I’m pretty sure you can. nextlevelracing.com/products/f1gt-monitor-stand/

[@swordfish72]

would you know if they plan of selling just the seat alone? I'm looking at mounting the seat on my 8040 aluminium profile extrusion rig

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

As of recently, they are not planning to sell individual parts. The seat is pretty comfortable for me for the time I have used it. Usually 4-6 hours a day off and on since it’s my only pc chair. I’ve been in the seat 4 hours straight without any issues.

[@josephmassey1306]

Is there a way to mount monitor along with keyboard and racing wheel? Want this to be one stop for all gaming with minimal set up switching between inputs (mouse+kb, wheel, HOTAS)

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Honestly, it depends on your ingenuity and creativity. I have found this to be very adaptive when I apply myself, but it's not automatically intuitive. Definitely check out their website for all options. This seat is made for flight simulators. I use it for flying and regular gaming and doing minor office work/email just fine. Never used it for racing. nextlevelracing.com/racing-cockpits/

[@jayphi4095]

Do you know if the seat is delivered with sliders in order to be adjusted relatively to the rudder pedals according different size of users ?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

👍 That’s affirmative! You can use one of two sets of bolt points on the pedal sled, and a simple Allen wrench allows you to loosen up and slide it forward or backwards for different flyers. The chair itself to use on a slide to allow for some extra adjustments in flight.

[@airmanparker]

Deal breaker for me is no armrests.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Easy to make and bolt on for a few bucks. There’s so many holes on the side that you can mount a piece of wood with a armrest with a pad on it and have some quilted stuff. The Viper is the only real airplane. I know that has an armrest other than the mustang, which is a foldable one. When you’re flying your hands have to be for you anyway.

[@jaydenchaulk889]

Now u just need a MIP and it will be ultimate setup

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Actually, I’m switching to the WinWing MFDs with screens and keep my iUFCExport app on iPad for Hornet and Viper! ~Juice.

[@jaydenchaulk889]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP nice! I got MIP and the screens make simming in any modern aircraft much more immersive

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Was it easy to set up?

[@jaydenchaulk889]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP yes. Very simple to do. I’m fact I did it without the online manual. All you do in screw in some screws and put on the mounts and the mounts are also simple and friendly to use. The screens look great and very easy to setup using simapp pro. And it is easy to change the screens to be compatible with different planes

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I’m more thinking of mapping the MFD buttons like I had to do with the TM Cougar MFDs. Is it automatic?

[@stevechopping3021]

Looks nice maybe a little flimsy

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I’m not lightweight and it feels pretty solid to me.

[@PadinnPlays]

Question on comfort, im noticing after sitting in chair for a couple hours pain on my tailbone. Curious how ypuve adjusted it for comfort

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I’ve been in the seat up to four hours with no problems. I’m a pretty active person and try to stretch and get moving at least once every hour. But no complaints. Everyone’s anatomical makeup is different and results may vary. Feels like a fighter seat. Try adding a cushion?

[@KernelKrunch663]

Curious could this flight sim chair be used for actual office use 8 hours a day? Is it that comfortable for non-gaming?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I say it’s my home office, but when I’m working, I’m not sitting at this for eight hours… I could be out on the back patio using my phone or my iPad. I could be in the kitchen cooking on the laptop working away. Or in the home gym on my mobile discussing ideas while burning calories on the elliptical machine. I guess what I really mean is I don’t have room for a regular office desk and this sim-pit, so I just use this when I need to sit at the desk to work on the computer. But work is a four-letter word. 😉 Juice

[@b6s4shelter]

Hi, Thanks for the Vid. Do you get numb butt in this seat cushion? 6'7" 255lbs. the combination of this seat with all the mounts is a viable option. cheers.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I don’t really get numb butt, however, I do need to adjust the undercarriage a little bit every now and then, as it gets a little sticky in the undies down there from sitting too long. BC sitting is the new smoking as far as what it does for your health. And I know when I move around I feel a lot better especially as I get older. Pushing 60 this year!

[@b6s4shelter]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP nice. I'm right there with you. We're prime for Deep Vein thrombosis....

[@customizer2]

I'm curious to know if it's possible to adjust the height of the throttle plate?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yes, it is about 4-5 inches adjustable to me. 😉

[@AhSoul]

Thanks for the video. I currently have my WH HOTAS on my desk, along with Cougar MFDs, Streamdeck, mouse and keyboard. It's really cluttered. Was considering getting some Monstertech desk mounts, but then I found this and I'm a bit torn. My other problem is that as well as DCS I also play Star Citizen, which means that although during DCS I don't need the keyboard that much, for SC I do as I need to be able to transition easily between flight and FPS. I don't know how I'd do that with either solution, especially if I go centre stick. Feel a bit stuck TBH. You mentioned being able to use this setup for FPS. Is that because you don't centre stick though, so just slide the chair all the way front? Not sure that would help my SC problem though as I'd have to constantly be sliding the chair forwards and backwards during a play session.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yes, anything on the PC other than DCS World is chair all the way forward, I fly 2 inches back from forward, and if I need to write or draw something, I use a clipboard for notes while working on anything like a video, mission editing, etc. Easy Peasy for me so far. Hope this helps. ~Juice

[@AhSoul]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Interesting. Is the chair in the flight position in the video, or pulled back? It looks like a long reach to the keyboard and a very long reach to the MFDs. Perhaps a future vid of you actually using the pit as is would be good, as we'd be able to see the ergonomics better?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

In the video, it's all the way back. Check out this video where I am going "FULL GEEK" and flying...JUICE kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJzUh4WwZ62kjsk

[@dunbar555]

could you tell me how high above the ground is the minimum height of the seat cushion ?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

17 inches. If you go to our community tab and scroll back three months ago, you’ll see a full dimension workout on the chair.

[@MCP2002]

Holy crap.....I could buy the entire NLR Sim Pit and it'd be the same price roughly as ONLY the Monsterech MPS Pilot seat....and the MPS has a 4-5 month lead time. Geezus...

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Totally, and this NLR setup comes with more options that most of us need. And, it's fully customizable with some ingenuity and skills. ~J

[@averagejoe1943]

Nice!!!! Looks Amazing!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Thanks!!

[@Gerdam]

Its impossible to be truly objective if the product is provided to the reviewer for free.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Not impossible...the reviewer has to have integrity and speak from what he or she sees and experiences...check out the playlist and you'll see my subsequent videos that tell it like it is. It helps that the reviewer also tested flight and survival gear for the USAF for 20 years too! Cheers!

[@MCP2002]

I'm really close to canceling my Monstertech MTS pit and just getting this one instead. The MTS will seemingly take months to get here and was over $2000 (without the seat; I already have one). The center stick height is the only thing really holding me back from this pit. Does the chair slide forward and back or can it be mounted further forward or back? Thanks for the review! Subscribed!

[@Ginuwine-kx2iv]

slides back and forward about 8 inches.

[@MCP2002]

@@Ginuwine-kx2iv Oh nice. So if you use the lowest point for the center mount are you still pretty far away or is the stick position still pretty realistic?

[@Ginuwine-kx2iv]

@@MCP2002 you have to reach forward to move the stick, there is no where to rest your arm so just holding on to the stick your arm will fatigue and get tired. Very uncomfortable.

[@Ginuwine-kx2iv]

I was very close to buying monster tech seat until I found this one. For the price best valued all in ONE package. Monster tech you had to buy this and that. This you will have spare parts left over.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Confirmed. Fits most adequately.

[@MrDazb40]

I’d buy just the seat don’t need the rest

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

This is something that we are addressing with NLR

[@LucaBuzzoni]

As already a lot of people pointed out, I'm waiting to hear about the possibility to buy the seat alone or as a spare part (this one or the other one not Boeing licensed). There's almost NO possibility to buy a seat with cloche cutout in the base, at the moment. I think they will sell a lot of seats if they are able to handle this request.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Got it.

[@Nightdare]

Yep, I'm looking out to see if they offer the seat stand alone as well (with//without base no problem)

[@arnaud583]

Hello ! I wanted to know how high are we sitting from the ground ? 😉

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Posted all the dimensions of the unit on our community tab. Are you looking for imperial or metric?

[@arnaud583]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Metric

[@arnaud583]

I find all the other measurements but not the height at which we are seated from the ground

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I remember it specifically but it’s 17 inches if you want to convert that into kilometers. It’ll be like .0000000000 20 222162. 🤪.

[@arnaud583]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP 😂 Ok in centimètre it is 43cm thank you for your help 😉

[@smithed8408]

Can the height of the chair be adjusted?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Only if you get spacers and custom hardware.

[@smithed8408]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Then can I put the computer screen on the IKEA table? Will there be a problem with the height and angle? I am going to buy the Boeing version of the military cockpit.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I'm using it with my IKEA desk and I thought I would have to lower it, but it's the same height I used with a regular chair...Does your Ikea desk adjust. See more here: kzbin.info/aero/PLroS5xjXW90vJeku6xHT4BnkIrF2e46yA&si=OJlkhE2C9UDEhz8J

[@johnprice56]

What does it weigh? I need to mount to a motion platform

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

From the NLR Website. nextlevelracing.com/products/boeing-combat-flight-simulator/ SPECIFICATIONS: Supported Height: 120 -210 cm or 4ft - 6ft 9 inches Supported Max Weight: 150 kg or 330 lbs Product Dimensions: (L) 153 cm x (W) 99 cm or (H) 122cm /(L) 60.2 inches x W 39 inches x H 48 inches) Box Dimensions: 100 cm (L) X 54cm (W) X 48cm (H)/ 39.4 inches(L) x 21.3 inches (W) x 18.9 inches(H) Product Weight: 49.5kg or 109.1 lbs Boxed Weight - 56.3 kg or 124.1 lbs

[@johnprice56]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Nice! The motion platform I am looking at will support this chair and me. Thank you

[@cut--]

I just found your chan. This chair looks great, pricey but it would last many years. Do you have a vid on how to set everything up? I finally bought a 4090 system to run MSFS and a 65 inch had monitor. Been playing since the very original MSFS on m first computer (IBM PC Junior or something) TYVM! 👉subbed

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Thank you and welcome to our community. On the KZbin channel hit the Playlist tab and expand to see all of the Next Level Racing content.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

This should be fine for you... kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4XKeGR6mb-DmdE

[@CD-kc5op]

How high is the seat off the ground?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

17 inches to me.

[@CD-kc5op]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP thanks!

[@MattRattles]

you just got have a seat belt

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Noooooooo. ;^) I need a piddle pack more!

[@c0pe777]

I dont feel this should be a la carte... 800 bucks and it comes with all the crap one would typically a la carte is a win win. I find all the other kits that you do piece mill and customize are overpriced, bc the seat doesnt even come with and all the accessories are extra cost. In all reality, they are all probably 300 bucks of aluminum.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yeah, it’s a good point you have. A lot of people will probably buy it for 500 and then spend a couple hundred dollars on the actual parts they want and some people would even buy the seed alone just to make their own custom seven pit per the questions and feedback that I’ve gotten so far. But you’re probably right, I have a box of extras that I don’t use from the company that I don’t use and are just sitting there.

[@c0pe777]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I do agree though, if for the average person who buys this, there's that much extra stuff that will never be used, they the cost could be reduced. Thanks for the review on the product, just ordered mine ;)

[@penknight8532]

lul they gave it to you for free but in no way did it sway your review hmmm ok.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

LOL, whatever...you must have missed my critical comments in other videos on this unit...Trust me, I don't coddle to anyone, including "You Don't Even Know Me" guys like yourself. Ever think that my experience might actually be exactly what I report? It might not be the same for you or anyone else...but it's what I feel. Cheers and Bravo Mike Mate! ~Juice

[@thatguy7085]

Takes up too much space.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

For some. My transition from regular desk and chair uses the same space but more efficient use of the space.