Avid - You Did This To Yourself

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[@homestudioacademy]

Switched from Pro Tools to Logic Pro about 6 years ago and never looked back. Best $200 ever spent.

[@jklight3795]

Yep. But LAP extremely outdated. Still not have export stems. Still have not modern UI for 27 y.o. synths with pixelisation on whole interface. It's a shame. Moving to Studio One from 30 years been with Logic. Best $199.

[@bassyey]

@@jklight3795 Studio One isn't 199, stop the lies. They are nearing Avid with those tiering and subscription. The only cheap DAW today is Logic Pro and Reaper.

[@thomaslthomas1506]

I use Ableton/Logic Pro . If I had my druthers I’d just use ableton 11 but I have clients that use logic.

[@jonathancrowell4648]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@jklight3795logic pro is 10000% NOT outdated, idk what you think you’re talking about, because I export stems/tracks all the time. It has easily kept up with modern demands.

[@wintervalconspiracy]

@@thomaslthomas1506 I do my actual work in Ableton, exporting the stems and importing them into Logic Pro when I want to do a Dolby Atmos mix. The fact of Live still not supporting multichannel audio and then having a built in Atmos renderer in 2025 is something of a scar on the application.

[@RichardCramer-tq9nu]

Reaper 4+ years. $60 and it's mine forever. Support community is excellent.

[@J3unG]

I did that 10 years ago and CAN HARDLY WAIT TO PAY WHEN THE SUB PERIOD FINISHES. I love it so much. This after 20 fucking years dicking with Mac-based DAW. 2025...the world's your oyster, bro. Get what you can afford and make music quickly. I also avoid the fuck out of plugin review sites and elitist audio channels. Too much distraction. At some point, you will figure out what works for you as a producer and mixer and engineer. So...stick to those things and bonus points if you use the cheapest, easiest tech available. It's never the gear, it's the engineer. Happy New Year, bro.

[@youronaldb]

I am using Reaper since 2013 without any problem. It has the same possibilities as Pro Tools.

[@joeMW284]

Yep. If you're dealing mostly with recording, mixing and manipulating audio I think Reaper is the best DAW available. I don't think it's the best songwriting platform, but it's endlessly flexible on the engineering side.

[@SenseiMiku]

Used Cakewalk until it became SONAR and ran almost every version of SONAR until 2013 when I started using Reaper... Reaper to this day, and it runs circles around anything else that I could benchmark against it. Reaper supported common hardware interfaces and maintains low latency with ASIO drivers. I lost my recording space and now most of the gear is in storage. It was a good run, but I never saw the benefit to spending $25K on additional computer hardware for Pro Tools like my friends. I still have an 18-port Focusrite interface in a 4-sp rack and can take my tracking studio and microphones anywhere necessary.

[@theend9494]

I think it's all bull, I have used protools for 20 years, open project, arm record, record, edit mix awesome result great music, yes it is about great music. Its not rocket Science

[@tapary]

As a person that worked for Avid in the 00's and early 2010's, and watched so much amazing talent pushed out or off-shored, it's fun to watch this.

[@TheWinterwraith]

Avid cling to their claim of being the “ industry standard” without seeming to realise that “the industry” isn’t out there any more. They continue to price their products as if they’re selling to multimillion dollar studios. Meanwhile we’re all sitting in our home studios using other companies products 😂

[@kellygreenii]

Same with Sibelius, their music notation software. They’re so busy trying to milk their existing customers without offering any ongoing value that they are blind. Finale…a major competitor…folded recently. Dorico scrambled to win over the people who were going to change products. Avid and Sibelius? Nothing. SMH…

[@uriel-heavensguardian8949]

😂😂😂😂😂💯💯💯💯

[@BastianSchick]

Don't forget Musescore.​@@kellygreenii

[@AlexPettyMusic]

Left PT for reaper many years ago. Reaper crushes PT in every aspect

[@filterdecay]

they are getting pinched. Audio post production is the standard but they dont want to lower prices to appeal to indie music studios and get less money from that industry.

[@bassplayingchris]

Literally got the "your pro tools expired" today. Studio one is a one time payment 😂

[@ezrashanti]

Not really. Studio One works very similarly to Pro Tools. But they were just selling it for insanely cheap for new users like 200. But 150 to upgrade from 6 to 7. It's not as expensive as Pro Tools for sure but it works exactly the same if you have a Perpetual license. You need to pay for each version upgrade Pro Tools you need to pay a bit more whenever you want one more year of upgrades.

[@fenderbender6664]

Unless you want to upgrade…😊

[@nomore6167]

@@fenderbender6664 "Unless you want to upgrade" - Guess what? Upgrading is a choice you make based on whether you think the changes in the upgrade are worth the asking price. If you don't want to upgrade, you don't have to. On the other hand, if you have a subscription-only DAW and your subscription expires, then you can't use it anymore; you're dead in the water, unable to work on existing projects and unable to create new ones. Gee, I wonder which one of those models benefits the user more, and I wonder why a company would choose to push/force its users to a subscription-only route.

[@Southernkhal]

And that’s my favorite DAW. I’m not going to trash the rest. But, overall it’s the best for my needs

[@ELLIOT8209]

​@@fenderbender6664Im still on 5 and enjoying it.

[@jazzylamel]

Anytime Barry gets on here and starts talking about Pro tools I get the popcorn and drinks ready and put it on the big screen cause it's about to be a good one! PROTOOLS DONT MATTER😂

[@RetroSoulProductions]

Bolo Da Producer sent me here.

[@traceydavis8862]

Ditto

[@yebii_]

same

[@raykane2063]

Boloooooooooo

[@davidpatterson4547]

Me too😂

[@davidpatterson4547]

Me too! Starting to look at Cubase 14 and Studio one 7

[@BojanBojovic]

I was a Pro Tools user for more than 10 years, then I made a huge upgrade to Reaper.

[@CaptRadar101]

This channel is the reason I switched from Pro(slow) Tools to Studio One. I’ve never been happier

[@BarryJohns]

🙏

[@theheartofdixiediddy1273]

I used pro tools forever and switched to studio one and it's eons better than pro tools

[@konstantinepope]

Been working as a professional composer and producer for 12 years for some of the biggest clients in the industry. They had us use Pro Tools in uni and it was clear from the beginning that this was not the platform for people who want to write music as well as mix. I have been using Cubase for 90% of those 12 years (10% was Logic 9) and never had to look anywhere else for my professional/creative needs. And yes there have been times when the system was pushed to its limits but there were easy ways to manage this (indeed special thanks to Chris Selim for more than half of those tips). Never saw the need for Pro Tools, still can’t. Big ups for the upfront and honest video.

[@RichardFWDavis-yr2km]

I’ve been at this for a long time - not that how long we’ve done this matters; that doesn’t mean anyone is wrong at all. I’ve used PT since it was two apps. (First used Cubase on an Atari, as it was with Logic, which was then Notator.) It is absolutely true that PT’s MIDI had been historically Spartan. No doubt about that. But PT has some things going for it even now - simplicity (maybe it’s just my familiarity with it but it’s got to be the most 1:1 DAW in terms of what you want to do with MIDI and audio - it treats them the same for the most part. It has the easiest manipulation of tempo, terrific key commands and functionality, Beat Detective, ARA2, an extremely flexible marker system, my preferred method of fade creation and editing (and I also use Cubase and Logic Pro and had used DP for several years), and sample-accurate sync when you need it. It has deep integration with good control surfaces. It’s ironically dicey for video, to be sure, which is why I use Video Sync for that. And yeah, it’s too expensive compared to others. On the other hand, predictable DSP amounts and very low latency make their excellent-sounding hardware pretty appealing. In the post world it’s ubiquitous because of many reasons listed above. You don’t need to run it in order to deliver cues to a stage or music editor. But I will also say that in addition to having worked on a ton of records with it and a ton of movies and tv shows, you can also absolutely use it with a large template for composing to picture. I did an animated series in PT with a very large template and it did beautifully. I used Composer Tools Pro at the time and also made use of the markers to have show-hide groups of instruments, similar to visibility agents in Cubase, and the process was very streamlined on a very heavy show with tight deadlines. When working in Cubase, it’s terrifically customizable and with MetaGrid Pro it’s great. But some things just take more time to do. And since Cubase is at heart a sequencer that does audio and PT is an audio app that does MIDI (one can say this given the age of the code base in Cubase in particular), there will be things that lean those ways. I’m always sorry having to do lots of editing in Cubase - I just don’t like it as much. But I let my Ultimate subscription lapse and got Studio instead - in part to be able to address old sessions -and got a Mac M2 Studio Ultra and a Lynx Aurora. It’s been great. Less about available DSP, not much at all actually. Latency is pretty great. I live in both worlds and also have clients who use Logic Pro so that’s there too. But PT is great for tracking and great for mixing and I’ve been happy with it across giant sessions with tons of VI’s. To me it’s a question of preferring the editing and needing to support old stuff. Can’t say I would blame anyone starting out if they laughed at PT and went with Cubase or Logic or Studio One or Reaper, and didn’t tie themselves to a series of yearly expensive renewals. I like to say, if one can’t make something musical with whatever one uses, that’s not the fault of anyone but the user; and also you’ll make your best work in something you like. 😢

[@konstantinepope]

@@RichardFWDavis-yr2km Wow, clearly a proper master of the craft and honestly nothing to add to this reply. Thank you for taking the time to put this together, people should skip my comment and jump straight into this. Far more concise and covers it all

[@RichardFWDavis-yr2km]

@@konstantinepope I think everyone should speak their piece about this, maybe in a vain hope that someone at Avid realizes that they need to do better. It's not that I disagree with you, because nobody is wrong about what they feel better about using. And Cubase is pretty great, and PT is far more expensive.over time.

[@konstantinepope]

@@RichardFWDavis-yr2km Never felt like you are disagreeing, you just provided a far more professional, cohesive, insightful take on the matter than I ever could. Wish more people like you were part of the discourse...

[@RichardFWDavis-yr2km]

@@konstantinepope I appreciate the kind words. It's really good that we all have things that all pretty much work. Tell me something - when you were at school, did any teacher talk about how different DAWs can influence the kind of things you write? Because I feel like they all ought to say that several times, even if there is only one DAW being taught.

[@tunes2you1111]

Couldn’t agree more. I also stopped using Waves plugins since they started charging for updates.

[@djsampha]

Same here I only use waves real auto tuner other then I got all alternatives for other waves plug-ins

[@saxyrep1]

​@@djsampha Agreed! Saved for a few plugins, wave tune included for me as well, I barely pay attention to 'em since they pulled the sub only move in 2022 or 23 and reversed course when the inevitable backlash hit. Also, UAD allowing usage of their native plugins with 3rd party gear was the final nail in the coffin for my relationship with Waves.

[@peterbigblock]

Same, don’t miss 95% of them. Waves was the el-cheapo plugin vendor. They abandoned that, so…bye.

[@Ibantar]

AMEN on Waves!!!! I was so damn upset when I initially found out how much I was going to have to pay out to update the plugins I had, I just decided to leave Waves alone altogether.

[@nielsott]

I use Waves plugins live in Superrack Performer on a Mac Mini M1 with a RME Digiface Dante. Luckily I can do without a subscription. This solution has a tiny bit more latency than a Waves Server, which would have cost me a lot more. Yes, you can DIY Waves servers, but not with Dante. Now the thing is, once you've established such a solution, you notice that it actually would also work without Waves. Other live-oriented plugin hosts do exists. It runs any VST. The only thing that is really impossible to replace is Waves PSE. There is no alternative, sadly. I don't use Waves plugins in mixing of recordings in DAWs. Too much hassle. Also licenses are strictly for one machine if you're not a subscriber. Now if I'd install it on three machines even, I wouldn't be using it in parallel since I have only one brain and two hands… so Waves wouldn't lose a thing. But I just don't need it anyways.

[@johnplainsong9769]

Greedy companies with subscription models go down the drain in our times. Avid is a great example.

[@RasCuban33]

Best thing that happened to me in 2021 was my 2012 Mac Pro dying and finally getting off of ProTools totally. At 46, getting a Tascam Model 24 and going back to old school analog racks was the best decision for me financially and creatively. I don’t miss ProTools at all. Learning audio engineering in 1997 was pivotal being that daw’s were in their infancy and analog was still the standard. So grateful to have learn on SSL and Neve consoles, now I feel right at home with my current setup.

[@Scott__C]

Absolutely. I learned on MCI JH636 console and JH24 tape and another place I worked on a Trident console with a Studer tape machine. If it wasn't so expensive, I'd love to record that way now. Are you recording to an external drive from the Tascam?

[@RasCuban33]

@@Scott__CThat’s awesome! I’m going from the Tascam to a ART MPA PRO for tube saturation then to a AudioScape G Buss comp to glue the mix and then print to a Tascam DP-03 which has mastering functionality. I’m trying to stay out of the box primarily.

[@Scott__C]

@@RasCuban33 Cool! I do have to say when I first saw an edit on the computer, it beat the heck out of cutting tape. But everything else was very cool.

[@PollyVMusic]

I switched from PT to the tascam model 24 too! Love it!

[@apologiajosecarlos]

Cubase Pro 14 is a BEAST !!!!!

[@RICEEE]

preach

[@iamkofibruce]

talk to them brother

[@DoomNedwob]

Been a Cubase user for years 👍

[@ShonnMorris]

Yes! Been on Cubase Pro since version 6. can't beat it.

[@Medialover100]

Nuendo 13 user here. Cubase 14 is amazing. Steinberg keeps doing amazing work with software at an affordable price and no damn subscription & dumb dongle!!

[@HareBra1n3d]

StudioOne FTW! Let's hope Fender keeps letting PreSonus do their thing.

[@brettgordon9956]

100%!! And I teach Protools at Uni but do all my work in Studio One, including Atmos!!!

[@napynap]

Recent SIII user, came with a Studio One starter, checked my account for a $105 holiday deal perpetual license to Studio One Pro 7. Got it done 😊.

[@alphabeets]

Apple Logic Pro. Buy once, and you own it for life. It’s a no brainer. Logic is an astonishing program.

[@jimmyspider]

reaper for life, 15 yrs in, has never let us down, ya want a different feature, somebody's written the code, copy an paste, bang custom update, reaper uber alles

[@brianschuck4832]

I'm just an aspiring hobbyist. When I first got into this, I paid for a subscription to pro tools because I heard that's what serious folks used. I had nothing but problems getting it to play nice with my brand new PC and other programs. It crashed all the time and I got new-learner discouraged and made no progress with this hobby for a year. Then I was surprised by a renewal charge, that's my fault for auto subscribing to renewal, but dang, that they didn't give me notice they were going to renew ticked me off. So I switched to Reaper. Wonderful program. Love it. When finale called it quits, I had to decide what I was going to migrate to for my musical scoring program. Avid owns Sibelius. Guess which program wasn't even to be considered as a replacement? Finale was another program that wouldn't play nice and was hard to use, moved to musescore. It's 10X easier to use and does all I need. Avid can go rot.

[@rhythmace1]

Infrequently-renewing subscriptions renewing without pre-warning you is a huge bugbear of mine, it's a terrible way to treat your customers, basically.

[@mk1st]

10 mins in and there it is: Private equity.

[@nomore6167]

It does seem that two things are almost sure to kill a company's innovation/features and user-friendliness -- 1) private equity, and 2) going public (stock market). In both of those cases, their only goal is ever-increasing growth and profit, and the decision makers don't know (and don't care to know) their target audience, and that appears to be true regardless of industry.

[@sawtooth808]

It’s the same thing with Native Instruments (and now Izotope). They are now owned by a private equity company run by Vulture Capitalists. My stance towards NI is, let me have Reaktor, and leave me the hell alone.

[@FloydFreud]

I'll take Economics for $1,000.00 The answer is: Private Equity. Why is nothing as good as it used to be? That is correct!

[@FloydFreud]

@@RockManEnough "Hey, is Tommy there?" "Tommy's gone." 👉😵💀

[@Avlimusic]

Dropped PT for Cubase over a decade ago and never looked back!

[@apologiajosecarlos]

Cubase Pro 14 is the BEST !!!!

[@FederacionHipHop]

same here!

[@Ceejayilc]

Using Nuendo 13. Waiting for 14. AND we got Dorico thanks to AVID.

[@apologiajosecarlos]

You did a great choise.

[@matt52157]

I have to thank Avid, if it wasn't for them going to a subscription service, I would still be with them, and I wouldn't have found Reaper. I love Reaper. So, thanks again for sticking it to us so we could look elsewhere.

[@recai_media]

Barry, I subscribed to your channel for over a year now. You made some great points. Case in point, THIS ONE!! - I have the ProTools Studio subscription. I also have the Avid S3 Control on an M2 Max Mac Studio. The update to macOS 15 (Sequoia) was released to the public on October 28, 2024. Avid has finally announced that macOS Sequoia is supported with Pro Tools 2024.10, my current version, and EUCON 2024.10, which is incompatible with the Avid S3 Controller. Well, it's time for me to switch to another DAW. If I recall, it took Avid almost six months to release an update for macOS 14 Sonoma. Ridiculous. S/O to you, Barry Johns, ClintMusic, Bolo, and others. I'm getting off this Pro Tools crazy train.

[@Enice43]

Studio one pro for life😊

[@PaulOrtiz]

5k is crazy. I just got an M3 Max 16” 128GB 8TB. Okay it was expensive but my word it’s a beast. I don’t think I’ve gone past 15% on the cpu. I keep throwing Kontakts and Neural DSP amps and Reason Rack Plugins and it refuses to budge. This is true whether I’m using Cubase, Logic, Live or Reason. It’s actually amazing. The world has moved on and someone forgot to tell Avid (or they’re just pretending it hasn’t!).

[@robsmith5434]

Yea, I just bought an insanely powerful M4 Pro Mac Mini for 1/3 the cost of that Pro Tools card. Avid is crazy.

[@ckatheman]

M2 Max Studio here - with audio, I can't see needing anything more - as a practical matter. I use a TON of VST's, guitar effects processors, and more. It doesn't break a sweat. Video editing is also superb - beyond anything I will ever use. I guess the new M4's do swifter rendering of the 3D Fusion stuff in Davinci, but its only a little bit choppy at 4K 60 the first time you play it through.

[@spdcrzy]

The new M4 Mac Mini fully loaded is an absolute tank. You can actually get four of them in a cluster, network them, and do proper AI model development on them. In a volume that would normally fit a single desktop LOL.

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

Big shout out Barry because MULTIPLE KZbinrs have made reaction videos regarding your video and you have really started a huge and much needed discussion in the audio industry. You sir are a trailblazer and pioneer!

[@smokey5100]

Boy we have come along way since the Digi 001 days...

[@BarryJohns]

And I had one too😁

[@dodgedforgottenn]

@@BarryJohns Same here. It was a good piece of gear for the time.

[@FurtiveSkeptical]

Dongle Hell...

[@zaiah_kmg8365]

To think i was doing something with the digi 002 rack back in the early 2000's Lol

[@BarryJohns]

That too and the 003

[@bruhzooka]

Thanks!

[@mrflynn01]

Logic Pro is that deal!!!

[@SantaAnaCreations]

There is no logic to logic its as stupid slow and usless as PT. Any other daw will blow logic out the water anyday even reaper and its free smh

[@carlosserrano3985]

If I have a Mac I definitely choose Logic Pro as my DAW, I think they have a great deal for Apple customers and I'm not a fan of Apple products, don't like closed systems.

[@LearnCompositionOnline]

The best ❤

[@uffe.damgaard.pedersen]

It doesn't utilize efficiency cores... other daws do

[@Scott__C]

@@carlosserrano3985 Every system is closed in one way or another.

[@MattHepworth]

There's no interface with a buffer of 64 that can achieve sub 2ms latency at 48kHz. I've been fighting the battle for years and, like you, came from TDM, then eventually HDX, which was WORSE latency-wise. There are two groups of people that do audio, those that are cursed an have high sensitivity to the comb filtering latency causes, and everyone else. 2ms is that line in the sand. The Lowest latency possible on a native platform at 64 samples buffer exceeds that 2ms mark. It's actually about 3ms without even adding in the conversion delay. I'm glad you're satisfied with higher latency audio. Lots of my clients are as well. Some are DEFINITELY not, though, and neither am I. I'm one of those cursed to be hyper sensitive to the comb filtering. Now, that all said, HDX is only capable of that WITHOUT plugins. TDM, on the other hand, can do it with any HD series interface and multiple plugins.

[@jacksp8de]

I'm SUPER sensitive to this. Thats why I still have an Apollo. I have my MT48 going ADAT into an X6 because just a little latency throws me off. Hundreds of plugins at 64 buffer would be great. I have the same computer he does but not getting those results.

[@BarryJohns]

I’ve never noticed any issues whatsoever so I guess I’m in the other camp. I’ve also never had anybody complain either. That said I i do concede that there are people out there that are sensitive this, I’m just curious Matt, what percentage of people do you think Really notice the difference?

[@BarryJohns]

Jack, my advice is always, if what you have works for you, then don’t change. Not everybody can be put into the same mold. If you’re happy with what you have, then by all means to continue to enjoy it.

[@jacksp8de]

@@BarryJohnsBarry I’m just curious. I’m all about optimizing my workflow. I really think it’s the type of plugins I use. I can get great latency at the beginning of the process but it can get sticky after a while. I do hip hop and pop so we probably use different plugins. For instance a lot of times, I use Auto tune on each individual vocal track depending on the type of song.

[@MattHepworth]

@@BarryJohns Very small. 1 in 10, maybe. Usually it's a good vocalist asking to turn the "effect" off.

[@ChannelForty2]

You mentioned it here, your honesty and straight forward manner is very very appreciated and what causes me to continue to follow you. Keep doing what you're doing man!

[@jamalcole1985]

Im 34 this year. Ive been using FL STUDIO sunce i was 10, protools from 2010-2020 got tired bouncing my beat stems from fl studio to protools. Started recording on FL STUDIO.

[@MCOlangotang]

I cracked FL Studio as a teen then bought the complete edition in College. ImageLine is a great company.

[@Shacqwavmuzik]

yikes

[@RichMusicEnt.]

😐

[@yurikalashnikov2460]

At this point as soon as a software company gets bought out by private equity, I start looking for a replacement. My threshold for putting up with toxic BS from these clowns is zero.

[@AudioReplica2023]

Somebody has to say it👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Universal Audio🗣take notes!

[@joesalyers]

Just like you I was a Pro Tools Accel, then TDM , and HDX user because of compatibility with others working in the industry, when Pro Tools 11 came out I started using Logic Pro more and more since it was just my artist 95% or the time working with me. I sold my Avid gear and never looked back. Logic was $199 in 2013 and in 2025 I haven't paid 1 single upgrade since! Reaper, and Logic are about the best values for DAW software out there!

[@colorchaser]

This is such a breath of fresh air. I went in circles asking what the "Industry Standard" had over my DAW of choice. In the end, not a SINGLE thing. The DAW I use (and how I use it) is lightning-fast and I just stared, puzzled at the PT tutorial videos like, "Ok but WHY would you do it like that?" I'm already editing by the time PT is up and routed. The whole PT/Waves behemoth seems like its own era and rightfully so, but it's like so many industries right? Better things come along. Tech evolves. Glad to hear an honest perspective.

[@hereonmars]

It was crazy in the 00s when Protools and DD were required for people to take you seriously. People who knew nothing about it, but just wanted to come and record would opt for other places if a studio didnt use Protools. I was certified in PT in 02 but after working at a studio that used Digital Performer, I never used PT on my machine again.

[@VAFlash]

I love the honesty. Thank you Sir.

[@BarryJohns]

My pleasure

[@nopu-b6f]

5:02 - you almost hit the mark, this company hasn't seen any bonuses in the past four years and I'm telling you as a employee lol

[@Rhuggins]

Its the board members who get the bonuses

[@manny75586]

I will be forever thankful to a professor I had who taught a class on home recording with virtual instruments. Every other class used Pro Tools or Avid for video editing, he asked the school to put Cubase and Logic on all the computers. It was amazing. I could get around Pro Tools fine. But Logic and Cubase were so much easier. They were so much more inspiring to use. I use Studio One now and get that same feeling. Anything but Pro Tools at this point. I love Cubase, Logic, and Studio One.

[@CurserTV]

Studio One is my go to

[@Maroblox]

Paid for a Pro Tools Ultimate subscription, ended up using FL Studio as my main producing DAW and Studio One as my more technical one. A thousand times more affordable, and a billion times easier to work with.

[@manlioyllades]

I stopped using Avid hardware and software more than 10 years ago and I haven't ever missed using it :)

[@SGTDayDay]

Str8 facts 💯 been on Logic Pro since day one pro tools always been over hyped

[@neve2254e]

I am shocked the HDX cards are still in production. The Texas Instruments DSP chip is an antique at this point in time. The original data sheet is dated October 2007!!!!

[@CirTap]

I love a good rant about software I don't use. makes me feel smart and that I did something right from the get go 😂

[@SonnyBronco2211]

😂😂😂😂😂 same

[@s2mediapro742]

I couldn’t agree more. The only reason we still use Media Composer in the industry is because of these age old workflows from offline to online and then to delivery. I only use MC when I’m required to do so. I use Resolve to cut everything else.

[@Featherlightstudio]

We started with Mix + and then HDX as well but the rise of better, faster, more creative DAW’s and cash grab subscription models finally made us see the light. Then when Apple silicon came along, there was no turning back. Best decision ever for a full time working studio.

[@thomasboyerGBSRecords]

We own most of the DAWs for compatibility with clients (Studio One and Logic are favs) but honestly the zero latency of our HDX Pro Tools is key for tracking large sessions with DSP plugins, and the DSP for 16 channel routing to headphone mixers, again, with zero latency, is handy. Sure, we could do it with our large format console but it's a pain. We might use Reaper for live remotes for its stability, but instead use Metric Halo's DAW "Session" because it's equally or more stable and the routing for headphones, etc is superb. Metic Halo's DAW "Session" is deadly.

[@supercompooper]

This: zero latency

[@tomrogers2790]

couldn't you get almost zero latency from an RME interface and their software?

[@thomasboyerGBSRecords]

@@tomrogers2790 Good point! Possibly, but since we're in the Metric Halo universe (which is impressively well thought out IMHO) we just use those with all their DSP and low latency. We do so much tracking that latency is just one of those issues we don't even want to think about. Cheers

[@dekofschipper8412]

with digital audio, zero latency is a rounding error.

[@michaelmattioli7230]

Made the same decision over 25 years ago and haven’t looked back once in regret. Overpriced overhyped and greedy is right. Same story with their video editing software and hardware. Good on you for sharing and coming to see the light.

[@JAMPROSOUND]

Some of us do in fact enjoy Pro Tools. I've used everything else but Logic and Studio One. I always come back. I've also not paid Avid a penny in years. My perpetual version 12.4 still works like a champ and supports every plugin and instrument I could ever want or need to use. Yeah, Avid can choke on a bag of footlongs, but know that some of us do actually prefer working in PT.

[@RussReiterMusic]

I'm actually in your EXACT same situation: PT12.4 on my old PC, and never paid them a DIME on subscription. That said, it's feeling kinda long-of-tooth, so I just bought a new Mac Mini Pro M4 and am going to LUNA (with an Apollo Thunderbolt interface and a bunch of their plugs that I already have). I own Studio One and will probably try out Logic as well. We'll see how the "feel" is on Luna, but from everything I've seen on KZbin and other reviews, it looks like it will do everything I need and has a lot of the same shortcuts and setup as PT.

[@anthony6399]

Luna is great, I would love it to my main DAW but hardware inserts are the biggest issue for me. Sure there are workarounds but it’s just a hassle

[@RussReiterMusic]

@@anthony6399 Ya, I heard about that. I haven't used external hardware much, although I have a lot of it and would like to do more in the future. One of the things I like about Luna is how they are constantly updating and improving it. They have a "feedback" feature built right into it and apparently listen and respond to their users requests quite a bit. That is one of the biggest requests for Luna right now, so I'm hopeful that that will be coming soon.

[@brentbusby74]

Agreed. Tried Nuendo and reaper for two years and came back to Pro Tools. The workflow is unsurpassed for mixing and editing. Other DAWs are wonderful at what they do, but if you need to professionally mix and edit tv, music and film all day, Pro Tools can’t be beat…yet.

[@reggriffin6805]

@@RussReiterMusic if you've never used logic or studio one I would argue that you've gotten comfortable, and don't know what you're missing.Like automating, anything at any time on any track just by doing it, or by dragging or duplicating a track instantly and intuitively without going into menus. I could name dozens of functions where PT is stuck in the past but whatever works for you.

[@thepictureofdorianyates4840]

Before watching this I would have said I'm a top Avid hater... I now realise there's levels to this

[@SoulSingerJTait]

I might just be in an abusive relation and don’t know it because I love Pro Tools. Maybe not Avid as a company from all the things I’m hearing, but I love the software.

[@BarryJohns]

So do I.

[@kmastro8118]

Same here. Just recently got back into music production after some years off. Got the mbox studio and pro tools perpetual for $600. Really enjoying it.

[@ronmason1076]

Just found your channel today. I was amazed that Avid was still terrorizing it's customers. I owned Mason Engineering 35 years started with Protools in the Digidesign days. Designated studios with hundreds of Avids both Protools and Media Composer. I retired in 2012 but Avid had already gone down the subscription path, my clients didn't like it but the industry demanded Avid. I'm so glad to hear you voice an opinion shared by me and many of my clients. They're no longer the industry standard the Macs are still hot and there's lots of DAWs.

[@liothomasart]

Cubase gang! I see you !🫡

[@_B_E_A_D_G_C]

Words cannot express the absolute joy I felt watching this video. Hats off to you Barry, one of the very few that I choose to spend my time watching . 🫡

[@BarryJohns]

Wow, thank you!

[@_B_E_A_D_G_C]

@@BarryJohns thank you, for all that you do for the community !

[@splashfreelance2376]

I started using Steinberg in the Pro-24 days on the Atari. When Sound Tools became Pro Tools and multitrack, I moved. I spent years on Pro Tools, culminating in working as an engineer and defacto IT department for a multi-room post studio complex in central London. I still used Cubase for some of my personal jobs for a while but when Pro Tools became MIDI capable I kinda let those skills wither. When I moved on from that role (as I moved away from London) I continued to work with Pro Tools in my project studio in the converted attic of an old shop terrace building. When Avid decided to move to a subscription model, I made a hard decision - I was mostly doing other work (motion graphics and video work in Nuke) in semi-retirement so a subscription model just didn't make sense, and when I did the numbers, it turned out it was costing me a lot more as well. I never used Avid support, even in the HDX days as I found it awful and the people I'd deal with knew less than me. What is the point of this overlong story? I moved lock stock and barrel back to Steinberg too. Nuendo, because I was doing a lot of stuff to picture. I have one thing to thank Pro Tools for - because Pro Tools began as an audio only platform, it gave me a different way of working to the standard Cubase/Nuendo workflow. The Steinberg products are flexible enough to allow me to use my Pro Tools muscle memory (and key commands) to work the way I had become used to, using audio as my baseline. Sure, I use VSTis but I like to commit early and by the time I'm mixing, it's all audio. It's not a big deal to make changes but neither is is completely trivial as it is early on with MIDI and this focusses my mind in the same way that working to multitrack tape used to. Workflow is king, IMO, and everything is so flexible I've found that defining my own way of working, my own limitations in some cases, gives me the best results. I love Nuendo, and recently audio editing on the main timeline has had an update that removes the final thing I missed about Pro Tools. Industry standard? Yeah, OK. But as was said, there isn't much of an 'industry' anymore. Not in the sense of industrial sites with multiple studios. I got lucky in that I moved to post production for cinema and TV once the big-iron music studios closed down or became waxwork clones, used mostly by ripoff Audio Engineering Schools plus the occasional 1970s or 80s rock star or band. Moving to post at least meant I still had a job in a studio as the record industry collapsed in on itself, but I was very lucky.

[@Sethmotley]

Cubase/Nuendo is the GOAT 🔥

[@Medialover100]

Dude Nuendo 13 is a dream to use. Been using Nuendo since V2 and it’s been running circles around Slow Tools for years. Love the Steinberg stuff. It just works, & it works with just about any sound card with no issues!! And stupid subscription model!!

[@mikew506]

Second Hand AVID hardware and a little help from R2R and you get a perpetual studio with every plugin you can point a stick at for a Grand! Love it

[@jdanderson9727]

This! I dodged a bullet when I doubled down on Cubase in 2018. I was on the fence for a while.

[@theonecalledvino8165]

I learned that back in 2001. That's where MOTU and M-AUDIO Hardware came in. It played well with others. Now everyone is making great stuff!

[@jacksmith4460]

Why would anyone bother with Pro Tools, Reapers costs $60 and can actually do FAR more than Pro Tools. There is 1 reason and 1 reason only to have Pro Tools now, and that is because a lot of established industry people use it, that s literally the only reason. Some folks will turn their nose up, but that's cool, they can go pay $500, I will go pay $60 , get a more stable, far less CPU intensive, ALL plugin format options, multiple Video editing capacities, every single function you have in Pro Tools and every other DAW for that matter (Reaper is like the Linux of DAW systems without compatibility issues) You can even make Reaper look and shortcut like Pro Tools. There is no reason to be tied to ProTools in 2025

[@jannatinkarlen8702]

I could say something good to other daw, but not reaper. If you have a lot of time learning it yeah sure, but reaper workflow is pretty convoluted compared to something like cubase, logic and studio one. At least to me

[@Nightowl427272]

Reaper’s selling point was never the low price for me, it was always the functionality, customization, and stability. It’s just insane…I’d pay 5x for it.

[@IlSinistero]

Im using Ableton Live and Cubase, Reason I only use as an instruments and effects rack - Im happy, especially Cubase is such a great DAW

[@Rocksite1]

As one person posted, Cubase is so '90's. Studio One is a lot slicker, in a lot of ways. One thing to worry about when moving away from PT, is equal delay compensation across all tracks - otherwise you'll have phasing issues. Reaper, e.g., doesn't seem to have gotten the memo. S1 also is lenient about copy protection, has a lower price than Cubase; and you don't have to be opening and closing windows so much. More than 8 fx/track, anyone? That's just begins to scratch the surface with S1. I can only hope the S1 pricing and policies stay similar now that Fender has taken it over; because they have a really good product on their hands, IMHO. It reportedly has even fx delay compensation across all tracks, like PT, but unlike Reaper. I admit S1 can seem hard to use at 1st, but then it gets easier, and other DAWs then seem clunky.

[@joelonsdale]

I remember going completely ITB with Logic in about 2004 with no external DSP, just an external PCI-based interface and recording with software monitoring. Admittedly I wasn't recording huge numbers of tracks, perhaps 8 max, but I was astonished how well it worked, how much software was included, how cheap it was, how much fun it was to use (except the dreaded "environment"...) and how well it played with whatever interface I owned. At the same time, I witnessed other producers with *functionally inferior* setups running on super-expensive computers with super-expensive DSP and super-expensive interfaces. All those people got financially COOKED when their gear needed replacing and I just couldn't understand their loyalty to go and REBUY it all!

[@lamarasamuel]

You are the Scotty Kilmer of Audio Recording🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Qomplex]

Rev up your audio engines !!!!!

[@lautarolabrin]

Thank you very much, I was also a PT user for more than 20 years, it was hard for me to migrate from DAW, but I got tired of AVID. I totally agree with what is expressed in this video. Thank you very much.

[@firewerk66]

I love Pro Tools. Been using it since 2002 when the studio I work at migrated from analog 2" tape.

[@TheCraigAnderton]

Your description of Avid is a textbook example of the predator - prey relationship. Eventually, predators consume so much prey that there's no more prey to feed the predators. Then, this impacts the predator's ability to survive. You can also see it happening in society, where people in general (the prey) can no longer afford to buy the things that enrich the predators. Avid has followed the same trajectory. It wouldn't take much to get the company back on track, but whoever's pulling the strings doesn't seem that interested in making it happen.

[@JonnyLipshamStudios]

Celebrating 11, almost 12 years on Studio One after 25 + years on Cubase since v1.0. I only use PT when I absolutely HAVE to, to just get the stems, which I then bring in to Studio One and do my job and then put them back in the PT session to send back. Folks I work with have NO idea! I live in eternal hope that PT will support the .dawproject format so that I don't have to use PT ever again. Obese chance.

[@RyRyTheBassGuy]

It wouldn't cost them anything to do it, but yeah, nobody should be holding their breath.

[@cristoferrovindj]

First time watching, just to let you now that even the Latino community are talking about your video, nice thoughts 👍🏼 cheers!

[@GeorgeAmodei21]

i Barry- I started w/ Pro Tools & LOGIC at same time... shortly after I saw the issues with AVID so dropped Pro Tools & and was so happy I did as we all saw how they screwed their Customers. Great Video! George :)

[@danyldaniel834]

To be honest, I want the subscription and paid updates model to go away, but I want PT to stay. Here’s why: As a DAW PT has come a long way though “coming a long way” had much to do with catching up- but hey, the other DAWS that met up with PT as industry standards had some catching up to do as well, so it’s a nature of the competition sometimes. Compared to the other 3 DAWS that I use (2 of which are also “industry standard”), PT is still more solid for working with very large sessions (length and track count) as well as alongside film projects. I may use other DAWS for beat production, some recording sessions and mastering, but when it comes to heavy edit sessions (especially when you need clip-based processing) PT does it like no other in my experience, and I can say the same for mixing audio sessions that are 30+ minutes in length with track counts over 100. The layout of the mixer and general workflow is the best for the way I like to work with audio.

[@RIP_Milhouse]

UA Luna for me. Been avoiding protools over 20 years since getting my first PT certificates. 😅

[@Thomas0661]

As a studio owner, I found it hard to have a mindset to be productive if I feel I HAVE to work the second I walk in the studio if all I use in the studio is on a sub-plan/payment plan. The second I bought a DAW, up front. A complete program, that is MINE and free to use forever WITH updates. And an interface with the inputs and outputs I needed. The gear i need, not WANT and wishes… Man. The feeling of freedom really kicked in instantly for me. And every time I get in the studio today. It all feels like “Play time”. I LoVE my studio today. And I make so much better Music. Best regards

[@PipeDreamerJacques]

I’m a studio one user and looooove the workflow. I’ve produced close to 800 recordings now, and have never felt the need to use protools. (As it happens, I jumped off the avid ship when the Sibelius fiasco happened…)

[@SUBSYNDICATE]

thank you so much. having studied at SAE here in Germany and having to learn Pro Tools this was MUSIC in my ears!

[@seantobin8111]

I’ve been running Pro Tools ultimate/ HDX on a Mac Pro 5.1 using Martin Lo’s open core package. The most stable system I’ve had, it was like getting a new computer. I’ve been trying for the last 3 years to upgrade to silicon, the 5.1 system still is capable of massive mixers using Softube, UAD, plugin alliance etc before adding DSP to the mix. Tracking with HDX is seamless. I also run vsts, albeit only about 10 before things get crunchy on the old 5.1, but nevertheless it still works. I am hoping to upgrade to a Mac Studio M4, as I am writing more and I feel it’s now time to retire the the old Mac Pro 5.1, but what an incredible journey over the past 15years. Without HDX this wouldn’t have been possible. Prior to the 5.1 I was upgrading computers every 2-3 years to be able to run new software. After the latest ARA and Midi updates, Protools is looking like it’s heading in the right direction…..finally! I come from a Cubase background.

[@JamesStreetStation]

Tried to make the switch to the "industry standard" back around PT9 (I think), but hated it from the get-go. Over a decade later (and many trials of just about every other DAW out there) I've settled on Reaper for audio (since v3) and Cubase for midi/VSTi's and couldn't be happier. I've actually tried to migrate fully away from Reaper a few times, but it's just so good at what it does (save some of the midi stuff I really want from Cubase), it's a steadfast component in my home studio. Thanks for the vote of confidence on Chris' course. I've been looking at some deep-dive learning tools and really like Chris' channel. I'm looking further into purchasing his masterclass now. I'd like to take advantage of some of Dom Siglas' training, but they're a tad pricey in my opinion.

[@bairahrecordings]

Avid come with the lawyer threats.thats a damn shame 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@emibpro9281]

Switched to Studio One 7 last week. Glad I did

[@carbonvibes]

Barry you got me with the click bait, I thought you were going to Segway and talk about Tegeler Audio. Great video by the way.

[@MBL80]

Same

[@MsSoFruity]

you got a new subscriber !!! Love this! Finally someone that speaks the truth in public! We all been feeling that way!!! Im using ableton and thinking about swtiching to studio one 7 again.

[@dougleydorite]

I’ve never heard anyone say anything positive about Avid, only that it’s a necessary evil

[@pipelineaudio]

Coming close to twenty years ago, three nuts (two genius coders and an unstable hyperskeptic audio engineer), took on the big A, with everyone laughing at us. "three guys vs entire teams and corporations? Poppycock", but the rest is history and we did just fine! I would have loved seeing this video as a morale booster in the earliest REAPER days!

[@LaminarSound]

Admittedly i vibe well with PT. Only DAW I’ve used in 15 yrs. But im tired of $36/month when i rarely work with audio any more. No more. I’m in Luna now and despite some bugs and obvious features that SHOULD be there and arent, it fits my bill. And its gorgeous. Also, Luna sounds better than PT. Flat out with almost no plugins running my recorded tracks clearly sound better right off the bat. Either way, i feel you Barry. Avid got too big for their briches.

[@spillemusicstudios8515]

I agree about DSP being pretty irrelevent these days. However, as someone who owns most of the major DAWs, I would have to disagree about Pro tools being mediocre as a DAW. For me, it's the most efficient (by far) workflow of any other DAW. I agree, the subscription sucks and buying it outright is expensive, but to me as a full time studio engineer, it's worth the time it saves me. I also don't know many people who hate using Pro Tools, but I can't speak for Media Composer since i'm not in that world.

[@billynojokes]

Excuse me for my ignorance I haven't dug into this topic yet but if I was to switch to a program other than pro tools is there any daw on the market that can open PT session files? ... That would be one of my biggest concerns is wanting to open up an older session or having a client hit me up about an older session... That would be a concern and also learning how to transition from years of knowing all the quick keys and shortcuts

[@reggriffin6805]

I run into that from time to time with PT hold outs when they send me a PT session to work on. I have PT 10.....11. perpetual on my ilok so I just load up the session, bounce out the stems and drop them into logic Pro, which I've been using since the Emagic Logic days. That should let you know how far back I go with this stuff and I've always thought the capabilities of PT were junk compared to Logic even back then.

[@albackwardz]

Oh my how I loved this video! 1000% true. And I also went back to Cubase Pro after 20 years of DAW bouncing around.

[@ilikemyrealname]

My biggest issue with them is their support. They make you pay yearly for it but you’re lucky if you get a helpful response, if you even get a response at all. And they call their support “World Class”. If Avid was a person we’d label them as narcissistic. Boastful, demanding and full of empty promises.

[@drp8062]

I appreciate your informative videos! Today, through your Sweetwater affiliate link, I purchased a bunch of studio gear., including an RME Babyface, which your practical, unbiased videos help me out with.

[@BarryJohns]

Thank you very much!

[@Spidouz]

Hey Barry, bear with me it might be a long comment. I started music on an Atari with Pro24 (which became later Cubase version 1.0), so long long time ago. Then I got a job where I had to test all DAW, it was part of my job to try to break them, find the advantages and disadvantages of all… so I pretty much tried every single DAW you can think of beside DP and Bitwig (I was already doing another job when Bitwig really started to become popular), so I won’t speak for those two, but I know and tried all other you can think of, Cubase Pro, Logic Pro, Protools, Ableton Live, FL Studio, Studio One, Sonar, Reaper, Reason, Samplitude, Akai MPC Beat, NI Maschine, and probably more I can’t recall, that’s only the few that come to mind right now and some of the ones I have currently installed on my M1 Max MacBook Pro… I used to work in studio, so I had to learn Protools, back in the 2000-2010 years, it was necessary, even for small independent studios. Fast forward to 2025, nobody cares about what DAW you’re using in your (home) studio. They are all perfectly great professional tools, if you learn them right, you can do 90 to 95% of the work, they all do the same. The only 5 to 10% difference will be on some specific features… some DAW might be better for audio recording, others for mixing, others for live performance, others for Composers, or EDM, or Songwriters…. But in the end of the day, the best DAW is the DAW you know the best…. Pick your poison. After testing all those DAW, my main issue is that I often mistake shortcuts,, using shortcuts of one DAW while I’m in another one.. So it’s not great to always switch over and over, because with age, our learning capabilities decline..So now. I decided to stick with only two (Cubase Pro and Logic Pro),, not because it would be the best, but just because it would be the best for ME.. I’’m also tired of Avid policies. And I hate subscription, so I get it. And share your feeling.. Dear reader:: To each ħis own,, feel free to pick any other DAW of your choice,, as said it doesn’t matter.

[@Spidouz]

PS: I also have to disclose that I’ve been beta-tester and participated to some development to some of those DAW, including beta testing for Apple, Steinberg, Cockos (for Reaper pre 1.0), NI, etc… that’s also why I got many of those DAW as NFR. But as of today, even thought I still maintain some dev contact, share ideas, etc… I don’t do any testing for any company as this moment, so my comment is my opinion and only my own.

[@thebouncers]

Exactly my experience! Been a user since PT 6 like 15/20 years ago. I learnt everything on it. Pissed of about their politics and products few years back, i tried sooo hard to move away from Protools and used Logic a lot. But oh man, the struggle was insane. I felt like loosing tons of time finding a shortcut i wanted or anything felt so unnatural. Had to go back to PT, sadly. I,m stuck with it but it's alright, i can live with it. But if you re new to the business, DO NOT start with Avid. Cheers

[@Spidouz]

Yeah, I agree…. Sometimes the only fact to know an app (Avid or else) could be enough to stick with it even if there’s a “better” app somewhere else. An audio engineer that has been on Protools for all his/her life, that is VERY proficient with it don’t want to become slow and ineffective with a new app, even if the new app is “technically” better for them. Also, if you have to open some old projects, you might want to stick with a known system… this is true for Protools, just like it’s true for other app or even OS. For instance, I’ve been on PC almost all my adult life up to 2008 when I switched to Mac because all studios I was working with were on Mac with Protools. So I switched to Mac, and now I just can’t stand Windows anymore… I’m just like MacOS more. Does it mean Windows is bad? Nope, not at all… actually the recent version of Windows are actually pretty good and you can make a Windows PC to run just as well as a Mac… and it will very likely be cheaper (or way cheaper if you build it yourself). But if you’re used to MacOS, it will be a hard pass, even if you dislike Apple policies (just as much as you despise Avid policies). That’s why I said “pick your poison”. Nothing is all good vs all bad… If someone pretends to “know the solution”, or that s/he found “THE” solution, then they’re either lying to you or lying to themselves. At best, it might be the less worse solution for them… Also, back to Pre-2010 I would say there was no question, if you wanted to be “professional”, working as a medium size commercial studio, or being recognize as a serious producer, you had to have Protools, it was THE industry standard, because all big studios were working with Protools, all big names were working with Protools, all engineers you would hire would use Protools… But since 2010, we saw a shift in the music industry where more and more people are just building a real studio at home. We’ve heard since the ‘90s about the “home-studio”, the notion to be able to make music at home, it really started with electronic music… but back then, even home studio were not perfect and couldn’t achieve the sound quality of a real professional studio if you had real instruments (drums, guitars, bass, singers, strings, etc…). So it was a home-studio. But since 2010 with progress in technology, better converters, better and cheaper mics, preamps, etc… and with computers powerful enough to replace a Large Format Analog Console (FLAC) by mixing “In-The-Box”, we slowly move from “home-studio” to a “Studio at Home”. The huge difference is that in a “studio at home”, you can finally achieve the same level of quality in music that you would do in a multi-million dollars professional recording studio with all the high-quality (vintage) gear we could dream of. With Convolution reverb, with outboard emulation plugins, we can now have the same result in a nice studio at home that we would get in a professional studio. So we don’t need to exchange files with studios, engineers, labels, etc… we can do it all from the comfort of our home… so the kind of software we’re using becomes completely irrelevant, we’re Kings and Queens of our own kingdom… Also, with high-speed internet and social media, we can also become our own label, distributor and marketing… that’s why more and more artists are independent, they have nothing to gain from big labels anymore. Previously big labels were paying in advance for studio time, but they don’t anymore because not only they want “demo” songs to be ready for Primetime, so all the work is already done by the artist when s/he would approach labels… and they don’t even take any risk anymore since they will only sign artists that already have some following on social media… That’s why the whole music industry is changing… not even mentioning all new technology (AI) that makes it “easier” for artist to make music… you can also have easy access to talented worker over internet. You search for a graphic designer for your album cover? You can hire someone over the internet… you don’t need to label to do that for you. So, artists become more and more independent… which also mean not being dependent of a specific software they wouldn’t like. If they hate Protools, there’s nothing that stop them today to spend could have bucks to use another DAW and their music won’t sound bad, or sound “less professional”. Of course, if you’re working in Post Production for Hollywood, you might still need to use Protools… but even then, it depends. For instance, for Composers, it’s well known that A LOT of them are using Cubase Pro because of people like Hans Zimmer that has been a huge mentor and advocate for Cubase… Sure, in the end, they still deliver stems in Protools, but that’s only to deliver the music, not to make it. If the only person you have to “deliver” the music is yourself, you don’t need to go through this extra step of using Protools, you can stay in Cubase Pro (or another DAW). Long story short, music industry is changing and will change even more drastically with the forthcoming of AI… I would predict that music will become less and less of an “Industry” because there will be no money to make for “middle men”… I believe the music will slowly shift back to go back in the hands of artists. I’m not worry for the music, it will continue to exist, music will always exist in some ways… and there will always be music performance in front of audience. But every other “music jobs” like recording engineer, mixing engineer, label director, publishing companies, etc… I’m not sure they will survive. We’ll see… and that’s also why I would be sacred if I would be Avid since they clearly place themselves on the tiny 0.001‰ of super elite entities on top of the music industry pyramid… while some companies will be doing good because they’re aiming at the mass population, music beginners, etc… Anyhow, I’m rambling at this point, but yeah, there’s multiple reasons why today (in 2025) there’s absolutely no need for a specific software to make music and anyone can make perfectly good quality professional music using whatever they want… some of them won’t even use any computer and any DAW for that matter and it would still sound awesome. Let’s never forget that in the end of the day, it’s not about technical details or gear, it’s about the love of music… cheers!

[@apologiajosecarlos]

Wise decision getting Cubase Pro.

[@ColinEnglishOfficial]

Absolutely love this. Was smiling the whole time! Avid is old news, old tech, and bad business.

[@unomas9043]

Gotta be honest I use Pro tools because that’s what I learned on when going to film school. I do music production now as well and I tried Logic and Ableton for a couple years but when I tried Pro Tools again some second nature and memory just made it where I flowed better through sessions. I do hate the price but it’s just a platform I learned on and I guess I’m kind of afraid now to try new stuff. I also don’t know (that’s a clue that I have to research I guess) how many people are using other software for audio film postproduction. I know a guy that uses Logic but when sending to the mastering engineer or even the mixing engineer they will use pro tools but maybe it’s just cause the same reason that they’re old and used to it. Quite a reflexive video for me, maybe I’ll dedicate a day or two a week to start learning something like reaper. thanks for uploading

[@datenarche]

Steinberg Nuendo or Magix Sequoia would be something for you.

[@unomas9043]

@@datenarche will definitely check them out, thank you

[@jmag2154]

I figured out back in 2012 that PT was a waste of money. Been on Cubase ever since. 😊 I remember when Digidesign said they would never make a PC version of PT but then the industry blew them away and all the sudden PC version.😅

[@brentenman9291]

$ 5000.00 for a PC card! My entire studio costs less than that! lol

[@ShootieSchool]

20 Years with Pro Tools. Their response to me from simply not being able to log into my online account for close to a year was "you can still upgrade pro tools on Avid Link". That convinced me to pull out my calculator for multiple licenses. Now with Reaper. FL Studio is inexpensive for beatmakers no pay upgrade. Reaper is $60 with no pay to upgrade. Logic is no pay to upgrade, but I have to pay for new OS/Computer after a while to use the latest. If someone needs a Pro Tools session or I have to recall one, I suppose I'll rent it for a month.

[@cjyou5606]

I’m so glad I decided around 2003 not to go down the PT route. While I probably could have done better than Cakewalk Sonar, Reaper changed all that around 2012vish. Like instantly!

[@PRE22164oo]

BOLO SENT ME HERE TOO. & I JUST SUBSCRIBED‼️‼️‼️

[@Aletheia_Z]

Reaper covers everything a modern daw needs and is almost free!

[@carlosserrano3985]

@@Aletheia_Z True Reaper is excellent, is my second DAW option, Studio One is my main.

[@Kevinschart]

Depends on what you're doing. Reaper is a great tool, but there are different tools better suited for certain tasks.

[@carlosserrano3985]

@Kevinschart Agree, Reaper is excellent but I used for other things that I do, my main DAW is Studio One v7 (Upgraded from v5 Pro Recently).

[@ricardomatamoros9854]

I switched fromm Pro tools to Cabase 10 year ago, and I have been happy ever since!