Avios Super Tucano (PNF) 1600mm (63") - Model AV8R Review

[@mrvoyagerm]

Maidened mine this past Saturday and it needed no trim whatsoever. It has a very wide speed envelope and handles the wind without issue. All systems worked perfectly and the landing was a breeze. Even the peanut gallery liked it :)

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Its a great airplane. Love it!

[@rjcnzr]

Hi Adam, thanks for the excellent no nonsense review. I have ordered my Super Tacano, and it is on its way to New Zealand. Looking forward to it's arrival in the coming weeks.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks for the kind words my friend, enjoy it! Wonderful plane.

[@simplefact4u]

Where in NZ do you fly ? 😊

[@rjcnzr]

@simplefact4u We fly in Blenheim. It is in the Marlborough wine region of the South Island of NZ

[@jollyroger2226]

Wow - That is a lean, mean, killer machine! What a great presence in the air. Enjoyed your flying very much . . . and that second landing was really sweet!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It is! Thanks very much!

[@Rick_Retired]

Adam, your model reviews and flights set the benchmark for all others, so informative and inclusive of great tips derived from your hands on experiences. Keep 'em coming please!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! We'll keep them coming.

[@libmananchannel]

Hello, "Model AV8R"! Thank you for showing us such a great video! I feel very happy! I'm looking forward to your next work! Have a nice day!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you very much!

[@MWall711]

You've reiterated what all the other reviewers are saying about this plane. What a nice warbird! Always enjoy your scale flights!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Many thanks!

[@1950superdave]

I ALWAYS watch your & Steffen RC video reviews before purchasing an RC plane. You provide great info for the build and radio setup. THANKS

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you!

[@dagobertosalazar]

I had been waiting for a Tucano like this to hit the market for a long time!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Here she is!

[@old_coastie]

Oh Wow... And that landing was pure butter,,,

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I got lucky...

[@purcellrcaviationchannel]

What an outstanding model, Adam! Superlatively flown and filmed. Avios/HK have a real winner on their hands.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you Gina! It is a keeper for sure!

[@mrvoyagerm]

Compliments for demonstrating just how schmoooooth this aircraft can be flown. Very very nice demo to be sure. They are going to sell a lot of these.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much!

[@DUDLEYT15]

Love your videos! Very informative and great flying skills....keep making videos. Just ordered mine

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! You'll love it...such a great flyer!

[@Flight6677]

You do a great job with your reviews. Very thorough and thoughtful. Thank you.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much!

[@mikessi]

Very, very well done video Team AV8R! You are doing an excellent job making the flights look scale.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Mike!

[@old_coastie]

What you said about "Gyro" been preaching that for years. Spot On...

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I used to never use one. Then I actually learned how to tune one... Funny how folks that are hard on one side or the other of that issue have never really seen how the other half lives. I have planes with them. I have planes without them. There's benefits to both.

[@old_coastie]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Absolutely...

[@fp-AvERY]

Perfectly said

[@hansclaes5052]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Adam, maybe a good idea to make an episode to teach us to tune them? And thank you for your great reviews. Comment is very to the point, and the flying; well I like your scale flying skills. You let the model speak. It is real controlled "flying" and not buzzing around like a lot yt knights do.

[@stevebullard9039]

Another fantastic review, Adam! Love the look of this airplane in the air.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Steve! Awesome flyer.

[@rcdavidk]

Great review and flight... thanks. Kudos to HobbyKing for bringing out new and different planes.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! Yes...love that they release some risky subjects.

[@RollingWiththeflow]

Excellent job demonstrating the new plane Adam! Excellent video work,she is very capable,and this video demonstrates her ability!! GG

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! Yes, Heidi is amazing!

[@mikeylikesrc]

She looks great! As always - great review! -mikey

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much!

[@reckemroysrc3764]

Excellent review Adam. This is a gorgeous plane 😊

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Roy! It really is...

[@daykin17]

You always do an incredible job with your vids….very professional….lots of info….and just plain well done….i watch all the other similar channels and yours by far are the most well done….bravo to you and keep em comin…thanks

[@TheValleyFlyersRC]

I agree 100%. I’m curious and would love for your opinion on my videos. The channel is a bit different than most because we feature our entire club in Los Angeles, or anyone there who wants to be featured on camera. Curious what you think of our videos, my biggest goal is to bring better video production and not just a simple iPhone in the wife’s hands kinda video.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! We appreciate you watching!

[@AntoniusBlack01]

Pre Ordered - Thanks for the review - I'm hype to make some magic happen with this machine!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Enjoy it man, flies like a well tuned pattern plane...which is great.

[@27niner]

Nice review Adam, thanks🙏

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@IansRCExploits]

That is one stunning model plane Adam!! Looks like the Avios brand are getting better and better!! Fantastic review, very enjoyable 😀👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Ian!

[@sphinx12tt]

Incredible review as always

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks!

[@christhompson6606]

Great review and flights!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks!

[@dominicbonadies6021]

Hey Adam another stellar review, thanks!!!!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much!

[@hechtspeed]

Dude thats a seriously sick model!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It is man. Flies like a pattern plane...on rails.

[@hechtspeed]

@@ModelAV8RChannel looks amazing too!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Yes it does!

[@payitfwdrcl6171]

Butta Good!!! I saw it at Nall. What a beautiful model. HK did very well with this bird. Enjoyed those scale flights too. Excellent review Adam. 😉

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Brad! This one is a keeper!

[@FlailinMonkey]

Great review, your videos are always well done and fun to watch. I do have to comment about the locktite on the propeller blade nuts, you NEVER want to use locktite with a Nylock locknut. One - it's a nylock locknut and you don't need it, Two - the locktite will make they nylock fail as it's plastic and locktite eats plastic. A option might be to use a thinner washer on those prop bolts so there are more threads sticking out of the nuts, or just a little longer bolt.

[@JustPlaneChris]

Thanks for that, I came to the comments section to say exactly that. NEVER use loctite on nylon-insert lock nuts. In fact, you never want to use loctite anywhere near anything plastic. It will likely destroy it.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks, but never say NEVER. Lock nuts are not all created equal, and the tiny ones we get with any model from China are not exactly what we'd call super high end. Lock nuts are typically a one use affair. After one tighten, they will not lock in the same way ever again. We'll come back to that. Loctite has been proven in tests to hold much better than a lock nut (many tests on YT, I'll link one). This is a critical, high stress area of the plane that will be spinning at high RPM's constantly...and the bolts are rather short, so the Nyloc is only engaged with a thread or two. The Loctite is engaging all the threads on the metal part of the nut/bolt. So, circling back to the one time use thing...if you're re-using a lock nut, always use Loctite. In this case, considering what it is...Loctite is a much better bond, and keeping it off of the spinner back plate is easy to do. If it degrades the Nyloc part of the nut, doesn't really matter. You still have a better, stronger, and more reliable bond with the Loctite than with a new lock nut. Test Vid - kzbin.info/www/bejne/faW7e5pnfKeHd5o

[@odwatchguy]

Nice flight and review, Adam. The Super Tucano in a 1.6m size is quite impressive, it looked great with you at the controls. I don't know how this would work on our grass field, but it is tempting. Thanks for sharing.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Tony! It is 1.6m with big tires...it does fine on grass. Check out Stuarts vid from HK. He flies it off grass.

[@ArthurRC]

Awesome review Adam, very nice job on this flight i Loved it...congrats my friend

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Arthur!

[@piermassimoaversano6140]

Ciao! I tuoi video sono davvero fantastici e soprattutto completi! Grazie per tutte le informazioni che ci dai, in particolare per la programmazione delle riceventi Spektrum e per le impostazioni del modello!!! Grazie grazie grazie......all'infinito!!!!!!!!!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks for the kind words! We are glad you like our content and that it is helpful!

[@FarmerFpv]

This is my favorite release of the year. I have the Black Horse Super Tucano 1730mm that is running a Hacker Motors brushless system. It is one of my best-flying warbirds. It is fast and on rails. I can't wait to get the Avios Super Tucano which seems to perform really well. Can't wait to put my order in.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Its a great one. ST are the initials to my favorites so far this year also! Super Timber, Super Tucano. Both keepers for very different reasons!

[@tonydarst8211]

Great review and flying Adam… but Heidi outdid herself with the camera work!! This video is going to sell a lot of them!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Tony, and yes sir...Heidi was on point!

[@jcb6713]

what a great looking plane ! great vid and flight...a keeper 😎

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! Yes it is...

[@Retset]

What a gorgeous scale model. Everything looks to have been well thought out and the oleos looked excellent on touchdown. For those of us without American sized garages and cars, can I assume it's relatively easy to take out the wing bolts, unplug wires and transport in 2 pieces? Separate removable wings with easy plug connectors are the only things I really think are missing from this.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It is a great model for sure. Such an awesome flyer. Yep, takes about a minute to take the wing on/off.

[@gblyndensrandomreviews]

What a cool plane! 👊🏻💥👊🏻

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It is GB!

[@JeffsCustomRC]

Great video Adam!! Can’t wait to get this one. Avios nailed this one for sure👊🏼

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Jeff! They really did...

[@JeffinLowerAlabama]

Adam fantastic flying and review. Looks great and flies great HK. Amazing video Heidi. Jeff in LA USA

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Jeff! Great flyer.

[@RubyS.1]

I preordered it. Now I'll watch the video.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Lol, you can hardly tell you're excited about it...

[@n3cr0sc0pe]

Lovely review and high praise indeed.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks!

[@SlowFlyer85]

Adam awesome plane and flying great video nice job😊😊😊👍👍👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Frank!

[@hassebarrefors1612]

Always enjoy your clips 👍 That light on the side may be an ice detection light, to see ice forming on the leading edge of the wing when flying at night

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks man! That's an idea for sure, although I don't see it on the full scale. Looks cool either way! Lol.

[@kitesurfer314]

Tail gets screwed in with two longer screws 18 mm. I had issues with that . Nice video. Great plane!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Interesting. Wasn't an issue with the one we got, but ours was a pre production sample I think. Awesome plane for sure!

[@kitesurfer314]

@@ModelAV8RChannel One screw was too short and got stuck up inside that 5 inch hole. Was a nightmare getting it back out. I had many choice words for this supposedly easy connection. I also didn't connect the servo connections correctly for which I had to take the tail apart again. I didn't know there are 2 different ways to connect them. Also,when connecting the 2 fuselage halves it should be completely dry before moving on. I was a little impatient and had it come apart which was easily fixed.

[@JDDupuy]

Early August? Nice plane no doubt!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It is!

[@FlankerTanker]

its on my list not here in the UK just yet - but man am I going to get one !!!! - Pre Order Placed ....😁😃😃😃❤❤❤❤ due in the UK August 2024 - just in time for my Birthday !!!! Oh and almost forgot in my excitement !! Adam - AWESOME video and flying demo... How about some grass ops for us poor chaps over in old blighty .. you know, no RUNWAY !!! ..

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Ha Ha! Awesome Martyn...you'll love it. Honestly, the grass was wet and I didn't want to get it on my pretty plane! LOL! Its a big un'...she'll do fine off grass. Check out Stuarts vid from HK...he flies it off grass.

[@tommypalmer]

Hey Adam, thanks for another great review. Question for you. How easy is it to get that wing on and off? I'm really wanting this plane but I have a sedan so I'd have to take the wing off every time I go to the field. Thanks.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks. Model assembly is at 00:39 in the video. Two multi plugs, 4 bolts. Takes less than a minute.

[@tommypalmer]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Thank you. I'm sold.

[@hansclaes5052]

Great review Adam, as always. I got back in the hobby this year after more than 10yrs. Stepping up slowly now flying with Funcub and Eflite Slow Utra Stick. I am looking for my first 6s warbird; I was doubting between FMS P47 Bonnie and Carbon Z 2m T28 Trojan. But this might be the ticket between them? Only perfect would be if the fuselage was screwed together and not glued. I know, bigger flies better, but I am paraplegic and handling large parts is difficult, especially for transport.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much. All three fly great, but for your situation the P-47 may is the easiest to field assemble...no wires to plug up.

[@dwightgoodman2116]

Love the Tucano in general. Too bad Horizon Hobby doesn't come out with a BNF (even smaller if needed) that goes together with "less effort" (reads..."no glue")...LOL. Your flying, as ALWAYS...GREAT. Thanks Adam.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

They are awesome. Thanks very much for the kind words. Really glad they did one, and honestly it really isn't all that difficult to put together.

[@DadsRCHangar]

This a great bird from HK, I would pre-order, but I have a Balsa version to build 😊. But then again. This would be Electric 🤔. Great video with build and fights Adam.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Chris! Awesome bird indeed!

[@CapnTomassoEduardo]

Saw on Essential RC channel where they did not have to glue the fuselage together. Maybe the pre-production version was a 2 piece fuse?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

He may not have mentioned it, but you have to glue the fuse halves together. The online manual shows that, Stuart (with HK) said it, and it has to be that way to keep the box a certain size and save on shipping costs.

[@dirkcools]

Again a very nice plane and video ´ super scale plane

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Many thanks!

[@kitesurfer314]

I broke the canopy latch at the base. Any suggestions to repair/replace with having to order the entire fuselage? Thanks

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It would take a bit of work, but you can buy pin latches like you see on other planes (Amazon). You could cut a piece of thin ply and glue that in over the space where the latch was Dremel a slot for the latch. Then glue a square piece of thin ply on the canopy back itself a drill a hole for the pin to go through.

[@kitesurfer314]

@@ModelAV8RChannelThe servo in the horizontal stabilizer didn’t work out of the box. There are no marks on the servo. Avois will send me a new one but I wanted to know what spec servo this is so I can quickly get a replacement and backup. Any idea which servo I should order? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks

[@davidsnyder238]

Ive been waiting to see this and hear your thoughts. Although from a transport perspective the glued wings aren't ideal in my opinion. However as a beautiful new, scale model I think it's outstanding.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It's impressive David. Flies like a pattern ship. That is what I thought. Not sure why they didn't use carbon tubes. That said...I later noticed and thought about my other two 1.6 warbirds. You can separate the wing halves with those as they screw together, but I don't. Both the Corsair and Spitfire I leave the wings one piece to make for a quicker assembly. I was actually not pleased with having to glue the halves together until I realized that is how my other ones are, then I was like, ok what am I upset about, Lol.

[@Lithonion1]

Really like this plane but Avios and Hobby King has me staying clear. I purchased the C-130 in the Coast Guard livery when it was released. I had a mishap and broke a prop. I ordered one only to not be in stock. 18 months later I got tired of waiting for props to be back in stock and ordered a set on Ebay for 4 times what it was on Hobby King site. Maybe if this goes on sale, I will pick one up.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

HK has new owners/managers. They seem dedicated to improve things, and have owned the issues that need improving...like parts availability. Here's hoping they do!

[@The11thSon.]

Great vid!! Would you be able to provide the gains you used to set your AS3X for the RX?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

9:02 in the video. Just FYI on all our reviews we have a chapter on set up with a set up info page that has a detailed rundown of every aspect of the set up including gyro settings if applicable. We also put a chapter list in the description so getting to whatever part of the vid you want to is easy. Thanks for watching!

[@The11thSon.]

@@ModelAV8RChannel thank you much appreciated

[@VTOL1973]

Hey Adam did you had to add weight on the tail to make the 76 mm CG ? I tried with a HBR 5000 but I m like 67mm with the battery all the way on the back of the tray, I even cut 3/4” foam to bring the battery back and get barely 69 mm I’ll add weight on the tail no choice I guess

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I didn't add any weight. I flew it on 6000's and 7000's mostly. I wouldn't add weight. Fly it first and see what you think. If it is a bit nose heavy for the first few flights that won't effect flight performance enough to hurt you. Tail heavy on a maiden is another story. You can add weight after you fly it if you feel you need to. Set-ups vary a lot so my set-up may or may not be what you prefer. I like a more rearward CG usually, but I see pilots happily flying with CG's well forward of mine on many planes. Edit: Also...I measured my CG with the gear retracted (Up) and the plane up side down. If the gear is down the forward position of the nose gear will move the measured CG forward a good bit.

[@VTOL1973]

I definitely hear you on the aft cg but with tricycle I like to be in the middle of the range as it’s easier did me to land then smoothly on the main I did measure with gear up but I think I know why: there is a gap in between the forward edge of the wing and the fuse, I had hard time getting the rear screws to go in because the brackets were so far aft they didn’t quite match the wing, I’ll have to move those brackets about 3/16 that may bring the wing forward enough to move that CG 4 mm

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Holy crap. Makes me wonder what happened at the factory on that one! Really odd that bracket is that far off. Jezz thats not good. That would do it though I guess. Gotta be something, all I did was put a big battery as far back as I could and I was there on the CG.

[@VTOL1973]

I did the maiden with a 4000 and a 3200 with the 4000 the plane was slightly nose heavy with a tendency to dive once inverted Other than that it’s really a fantastic flyer, tracking and capable of slowing down quite a bit Landing was just like a jet but slower Love it! I’ll move those bracket tmr, shouldn’t be too hard Thanks Adam as I bought this Tucano after seeing your review

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Glad you like it man! Flies a lot like a Pattern plane.

[@VTOL1973]

Wow I was looking at the Phoenix and sebart PC21 and thinking a Tucano would be cool for the last month or so and this showed up this am 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ It’s a foamy but it’s cheaper I was not 100% sold on the sound but the knife edge pass cleared that lol Hopefully the wait isn’t that long on pre order Killer flying and Uber smooth landing Adam 👏👏

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

That's awesome! Good timing. Thanks for the kind words!

[@markhyde43]

Hey boss. I will offer an off the cuff guess as to the light up front on the nacelle cowl. Now this is just a guess based on some other full scale planes that use deicer boots on the wing leading edges that I have worked on. These may be wing leading edge inspection lights, designed to allow the pilot to inspect the wing LE for ice build up so that they can adequately control the deice boot operation. Not something that the Philippine Airforce would be concerned about, but in other parts of the world... sure.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

That could be it. Someone else suggested the same thing. I can't seem to find any photos of an actual Super Tucano that shows it though.

[@TheValleyFlyersRC]

Just pre ordered it

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Awesome airplane. Enjoy it!

[@yoelarendt479]

Hello, great flight ! I know that Avios models are available in Hobbyking website. Do you know who is the factory?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! I don't. Often most of these companies use multiple different factories.

[@Diygary]

I literally cannot wait for this to be released. Needs to come out faster.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Awesome flying plane!

[@neilyakuza6595]

That plane looks like it flies on rails. A beautiful looking plane. I have been looking for a while now to see if anyone made one.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It does...flies a lot like a pattern ship.

[@lonezombieheart7808]

Thank you for the Review. Can u give us the Settings for AS3X?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks! At 9:03 in the video is our set up info page with our full set up including AS3X settings. Just FYI so you can better enjoy and navigate our channel...any "Review" episode will have chapter jumps in the description and our full set up will always be st the end of the "Model Set-Up" chapter. Happy flying!

[@n3cr0sc0pe]

Hi, can you just confirm that we have to glue the wing halves, making a single 1.6m wing length?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Yes. Did you watch the whole video? We cover that. Just sayin', Lol.

[@n3cr0sc0pe]

@@ModelAV8RChannel I did watch it all, I just really hoped I misunderstood. That seems a massive oversight IMO.

[@Bellairvideo]

Oh Adam… what an aircraft eh. Loved the assembly stills & Heidi even made a brief appearance! Great detailed cockpit , oh and excellent flying mate. Well done team.👏👏👏

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I think with the small aluminum brace that is the best way to make sure it is strong. I would have preferred carbon wing tubes myself, so I get what you mean. I have to say though, its so good otherwise. Also, I have two other 1.6m warbirds and while the wing halves can be separated, I find I leave them one piece to make field assembly faster.

[@CraigEmmons]

Great scale flight Adam as always and great video work from Heidi!!! This might be my next war bird. Just wondering if you might know how to obtain a model that I am very interested in. The hobby shop that I frequent doesn't sell Hobby King airplanes and I thought maybe you would know a shop that has one. It's the Avios (pnf) Albatross HU-16 V2 Coast Guard Flying Boat 1620mm. I'm sure that you have many more connections than I do and would really appreciate any info or connections that you recommend! I would be glad to purchase it through your channel or would even be interested in a used one in good shape. Thank you for any suggestions that you might have.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Hey Craig. Thanks man! Unfortunately I don't know of any source for the Albatross other than HK. I'm guessing since it is still listed on their website they will eventually get them back in stock. I'd hit the notify me button so you'll get an e mail when it is back in stock. I've never flown one, but they look like a cool airplane.

[@FlankerTanker]

FINALLY - it has arrived .. Now what can I sell to make some room for it ...

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

LOVELY flyer Martyn!

[@Kipmungin]

Ordered.

[@romieiv]

reminds me of the FW-190 Dora

[@LoveRC]

How hard is it to take the wing on and off for transport?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

4 bolts, 2 multi plugs. Pretty simple. Takes about a minute.

[@LoveRC]

@@ModelAV8RChannel thanks! That helps my decision. This is a sharp looking plane that flys well too.

[@jetman899]

Can I use epoxy on EPO foam?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Yes.

[@JustPlaneChris]

Great review as usual! However, you should NEVER use loctite with a nylon-insert lock nut! You should also keep loctite away from plastic, as it will make it brittle and could fail. I would keep loctite VERY far away from that plastic prop assembly. That's why they provided lock nuts. ;)

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks, but never say NEVER. Lock nuts are not all created equal, and the tiny ones we get with any model from China are not exactly what we'd call super high end. Lock nuts are typically a one use affair. After one tighten, they will not lock in the same way ever again. We'll come back to that. Loctite has been proven in tests to hold much better than a lock nut (many tests on YT, I'll link one). This is a critical, high stress area of the plane that will be spinning at high RPM's constantly...and the bolts are rather short, so the Nyloc is only engaged with a thread or two. The Loctite is engaging all the threads on the metal part of the nut/bolt. So, circling back to the one time use thing...if you're re-using a lock nut, always use Loctite. In this case, considering what it is...Loctite is a much better bond, and keeping it off of the spinner back plate is easy to do. If it degrades the Nyloc part of the nut, that is fine. You still have a better, stronger, and more reliable bond with the Loctite thats also there. Test Vid - kzbin.info/www/bejne/faW7e5pnfKeHd5o

[@JustPlaneChris]

Agreed on the cheap lock nuts, and you are correct that they are a one-use item. Having experienced an exploding tail rotor assembly on a heli due to loctite damage on plastic tail blades, I’d still be super cautious of advising the use of loctite near that plastic prop assembly. I may be slightly paranoid about that now. 😂

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

We have had similar experiences. I had a prop/spinner assembly on a FMS warbird fly apart in flight on me because one of the "lock nuts" holding the blades on worked loose. Same type of assembly as this. That is why I use Loctite anyway. I haven't had an issue since. You certainly have a point in that I should explain the technique in the video better to make sure people keep the Loctite clear of the spinner back plate. One good way to do this is to actually put the Loctite inside the threads of the nut rather than on the bolt. This works the excess out through the top of the bolt/nut rather than down towards the back plate. Wipe the excess away, good to go. The nyloc will degrade yes, but it won't matter, and it will hold better in the end.

[@JustPlaneChris]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Yessir, we all tend to learn from our mishaps! Good technique on applying the loctite to the "hole" rather than the bolt. I do that for many fasteners on my helicopters since it also keeps you from applying too much loctite. Anyway, thanks for the discussion and also curse you for making me want that Tucano! 😛

[@mrvoyagerm]

I would have assumed you would have a telemetry RX in there and fly by voltage rather than timer ......or both.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Often I do have telemetry. I'd have to change out the ESC to have that in this one with the TX we used. Even when we do have telemetry, we establish an average flight time...or timer setting because almost everyone watching a review wants to know what the flight times are. It makes it a bit easier for us to just put the battery used and timer setting on our set-up info page for easy reference.

[@jayaustin3096]

Wow, what a plane. Kinda cool that hobby king was down for a year and a half and come back with a awesome plane like this. You know people are watching. My question is hobby king makes 3 different grades of planes. The avois lineup is the best. Then durafly. But the hobby stuff is junk. I bought the slowpoke and the ailerons fell off during flight. Lol. Just wondering your thoughts on hobby king different grades of planes. Just bought the albatros plane. Love it. I have 3 tundras. Love them. I guess you have to know what to buy. Kinda strange how some planes are awesome and others are junk. Long text but Kinda curious on your thoughts.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It is man! So, HK has had their issues. Some bad decisions along the way. When what you need to do and what you can afford...or will afford, don't match...there's gonna be trouble. New owners and new management now. The re-opening of warehouses that were closed for quite a while as well as funding to get projects that stalled finished and start all new projects show they are willing to spend the money to do business differently. The question is how many customers will give them that chance to prove it over time? I hope they will get it together and keep it together. So far they are saying, and doing as quickly as possible...the right things. They still get hammered about issues they inherited though, which isn't really fair, but goes with the territory in situations like this. I'll do business with them and we'll see. Just FYI, "Durafly" is smaller size EPO models, and "Avios" is larger EPO models. HK brand are planes done on a budget...by the old regime. I look forward to seeing what they do in the future. So far the Tundra V3 and Super Tucano are awesome.

[@jayaustin3096]

Thank you so much.

[@stephenrout9025]

hi i see a lot saying front retrack brecks after 5 or 6 flights lots of post about it

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

@@stephenrout9025 We're about 30 flights in on ours, so far so good.

[@stephenrout9025]

Is it a xt90 plug in plane

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Yes

[@pandapatanmedicalandrehabi3234]

Just wondering what the significance was why the rudder bears the Philippine flag on it. Is it because of commemoration of the Philippines’ independence day celebration?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It says Philippine Air Force right on it...often military planes bear the flag of whatever country they serve.

[@pandapatanmedicalandrehabi3234]

@@ModelAV8RChannel yes, I noticed that. Just curious why the manufacturer chose the Phil Air Force though. Great video. Very detailed review. Thanks.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I think because it was one of the cooler looking scale schemes with the sharks mouth on the front. The US Air Force version is just plain grey.

[@SteffenRC]

Holy cow thats an amazing plane.. Dang it Adam.. I gotta quit watching your videos.. You MAKE me purchase too many planes. Its all your fault.. My wife kinda hates you.. 😂. Seriously, that plane looks and flies fantastic. Perfect for MY 1.6-1.7M warbird collection... Great stuff brother..

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Ha Ha, thanks Will. I'm glad ti have it in the collection as well.

[@sewerfly619]

Looks like a great model but I don't think you're supposed to use locktite on nylon nuts.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Lock nuts are not all created equal, and the tiny ones we get with any model from China are not exactly what we'd call super high end. Lock nuts are typically a one use affair. After one tighten, they will not lock in the same way ever again. We'll come back to that. Loctite has been proven in tests to hold much better than a lock nut (many tests on YT, I'll link one). This is a critical, high stress area of the plane that will be spinning at high RPM's constantly...and the bolts are rather short, so the Nyloc is only engaged with a thread or two. The Loctite is engaging all the threads on the metal part of the nut/bolt. So, circling back to the one time use thing...if you're re-using a lock nut, always use Loctite. In this case, considering what it is...Loctite is a much better bond, and keeping it off of the spinner back plate is easy to do. If it degrades the Nyloc part of the nut, not an issue. You still have a better, stronger, and more reliable bond with the Loctite than you would with the lock nut alone. Test Vid - kzbin.info/www/bejne/faW7e5pnfKeHd5o

[@hotscarywjm]

Hmmm, no manual. You have to download it. That's a first for me! wjm🤨

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

HK has been doing that for a while.

[@hotscarywjm]

Yeah, I reckon so!

[@midmichmicrotech]

You NEVER use locktite on nylon insert locknuts. The locktite will react with the nylon and render it useless .

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Never say NEVER. Lock nuts are not all created equal, and the tiny ones we get with any model from China are not exactly what we'd call super high end. Lock nuts are typically a one use affair. After one tighten, they will not lock in the same way ever again. We'll come back to that. Loctite has been proven in tests to hold much better than a lock nut (many tests on YT, I'll link one). This is a critical, high stress area of the plane that will be spinning at high RPM's constantly...and the bolts are rather short, so the Nyloc is only engaged with a thread or two. The Loctite is engaging all the threads on the metal part of the nut/bolt. So, circling back to the one time use thing...if you're re-using a lock nut, always use Loctite. In this case, considering what it is...Loctite is a much better bond, and keeping it off of the spinner back plate is easy to do. If it degrades the Nyloc part of the nut, so what. You still have a better, stronger, and more reliable bond with the Loctite thats also there. Test Vid - kzbin.info/www/bejne/faW7e5pnfKeHd5o

[@jamesdash1906]

Looks cool but I don't know about $500 cool !!!!!! Way outta my price range

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It is cool! Yep, it isn't cheap, but it isn't cheap...and it is a really good size plane. 1.5 and 1.6 warbirds range from about $430 to about $550, so this is in the range.

[@steviep9270]

After patiently waiting months to get my hands on this, I was disappointed with the quality of the product. Both wings had crush marks from the box, the ESC was broken (no replacement in stock), the rudder mounting points were off by 3/16” necessitating a bit of surgery. Lots of foam blemishes and poor paint. I hope it flies good, because I hate the fact that I spent this kind of money for such poor quality.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I'm sorry to hear that. Very unfortunate. I'm wondering of the crush marks are a shipping/handling issue. The foam blemishes and paint surprise me. Mine is a early production sample, and the finish is better than you are describing on yours. I would definitely contact HK and let them know about that. It is a tremendously good flier, but still...the foam should be smooth and the paint should be good.

[@cachavolador]

One piece wing... mmm.... not agree. c´mon avios design a two half wing V2 model

[@dragonsknights]

For 499$ that bird deserves better detailed pilots...

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

They gotta leave some modeling for the modelers...lol.

[@M4rkmcc21]

I've seen worse on more expensive higher end branded planes..

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Yep, there aren't many good pilot figures out there, and when you price a really good one you see why....

[@dragonsknights]

@@M4rkmcc21 yep, the difference in any plane is made by the pilots ;)

[@andre-dx4yw]

really like this plane but foam gets rashed up so easy i cant justify it.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Check this out... kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6rHn6uVqsR-d6c

[@andre-dx4yw]

@@ModelAV8RChannel interesting video thanks, couldnt find anything to disagree with there, cant say im as bad as the hill billy but i will admit to being careless in transportation. cheers

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Ha Ha, the Bubba part was fun to shoot...

[@voivode2591]

I Polycrylic all my foamies. Add a small amount tape where the wing tip would strike the ground if it goes up on one wheel. I did my PC21 that way. It has lasted very well. Better than the first one I just flew. The weight increase wasn’t noticeable.

[@neomatrix3612]

Lol in typical HobbyKing fashion all parts are out of stock. Don't support HobbyKing.. Buy from someone who won't con you into buying a plane you can't get spares for.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Lol, quite the uninformed comment. Its a pre-order plane that hasn't been released yet. The parts will be in the warehouses when the planes are.

[@neomatrix3612]

@@ModelAV8RChannel I stand corrected then but you know damn well that very soon they will have no stock for parts.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Actually I don't know that, and neither do you. We both know they have had issues with more than just parts availability in the past, true story there. However, ownership of the company has changed hands now, and they have new management in place. They knew exactly what they were getting into when they bought it, and the new manager owned the issues they had in the past, and seems dedicated to change those. There is an interview with him on the RC Groups YT channel if you want to check it out. I know where you're coming from dude, I get it. For a few years there it was looking very bad for them. They were closing warehouses, weren't releasing anything new, and didn't have parts for anything. With the new ownership and funding they have re-opened those warehouses, funded several projects that stalled out and are getting them to completion (like this one), and are responding to the issues instead of being radio silent. Those are all great signs. When it comes to parts for older stuff, that may take more time. There are only so many assembly lines in the factory, and tooling for one plane or the next takes a bit. They can't just snap their fingers and have parts produced for every airplane on the website by the end of the month. I want to see how far ahead they planned with these new projects...see how many parts they have produced along with the planes and how long they last. One thing for sure, if they change but our attitude towards them doesn't, nothing they do will matter. With that in mind, I support them, hope the best for them. I will buy from them and see what happens with the new regime instead of trying to further hurt any chance they have of turning things around by crapping on them in every media outlet I can. You may want to consider doing the same. If it turns out they don't deliver so be it, but if they do...we have another good option that produces planes other companies won't in a lot if cases. I like that.

[@neomatrix3612]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks for the detailed comment. I didn't know about the new ownership.. I had very bad experiences with them in the past hence my comment. If it's under new ownership I wish them well and hope they can deliver.