AVOID AVOIDING THE AVOID NOTES

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NewJazz

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@BigParadox
@BigParadox 5 ай бұрын
When I impovise and happen to play a note that sounds dissonant, I often stay at it and try to find follow-up notes that make that dissonant note fit into the musical flow. This often helps me break out of boring patterns to find new, fresh components in my music.
@makisGibs
@makisGibs 5 ай бұрын
I do the exact same approach on my improvisation jamming plus repeating the same "error" at the same timing thus giving the intentional use of dissonance and also the opportunity to re-evaluate as a listener.😊
@mywrld9995
@mywrld9995 5 ай бұрын
God bless you, my friend!
@keyboardtek
@keyboardtek 5 ай бұрын
50 years ago when I was a twenty year old budding jazz pianist, I ran into one of the top players in Buffalo. He said he was so used to playing complex clusters of dissonant chords and odd scales, that they no longer sound dissonant after a while and just more interesting and cool. At 69 years old now, I understand what he meant.
@shadowkiller4735
@shadowkiller4735 5 ай бұрын
Been 5 years I've been subscribed to you, always learning music theory and jazz through you. For so, thank you newjazz
@fabiosky4368
@fabiosky4368 4 ай бұрын
many thanksss to Oliver for his provocative ideas!! classical players will not agree.lol. when listening out of chords changes solos THEY MAGICALLY WORKS!! its a hard task but its important PRACTICE. ciao from ITALY!!
@makisGibs
@makisGibs 5 ай бұрын
It might be the most misinterpreted concept in music that finally, a teacher talks about. That's not all because we are talking about the Best music teacher out there. Thanks 🙏 Oliver.
@sergionate8326
@sergionate8326 5 ай бұрын
Although i am not a player, i compose and your channel always gives very good insights, thank you. I always like to be mindful where the tritones are in any mode or chord that i am writing, not to avoid them, but to know when to use them or not, in the proper moments when i want the contrast, not acidentally in random fashion. I believe this is the real intention behind such "rules", except people distort it eventually and turn a "use it conscientiously" into a "dont use, its bad". Maybe because it is easier to understand and removes need to think and distinguish when it is desirable or undesirable. Same as patallel 5ths, it thins up the voicing, do not use it. Yes it does, but if i want to make the texture thinner in a moment, also for contrast and impact when it widens again, then it is desirable at that specific moment. Good to see teachers like you helping people out of the musical matrix.
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. I totally agree :) Cheers from Oliver
@Alan-zi2rs
@Alan-zi2rs Ай бұрын
Thank you for the clear understanding of avoid notes makes sense Thanks for sharing much appreciated @ Oliver
@LibertyWarrior68
@LibertyWarrior68 2 ай бұрын
I relate to your teaching approach.
@Harriet-Jesamine
@Harriet-Jesamine 5 ай бұрын
This is incredibly enlightening. I adore your approach to music, andbfind your insights invaluable, and make me really think about things. 🙏
@francois-sergegulli2126
@francois-sergegulli2126 5 ай бұрын
Bravo Monsieur, votre pédagogie est toujours aussi fascinante et ô combien enrichissante ! Bonne continuation à vous Bravo Sir, your teaching is always as fascinating and oh so enriching! All the best
@CreateArtRecords
@CreateArtRecords 5 ай бұрын
Great Vid, thx. I learnd that Avoid-Notes only in relation to a Functional-Harmonic Situation should be avoided. Espacialy on Downbeats. But you showed me, that it is also possibel in a II-V-I Prog. Its realy helpfull to make some more thoughts about this term. And it is also very helpfull to have the possible Scales Graphical shown like in this Vid. thx Oliver! Whe need the Avoid-Notes to realise all the Colors of temperatet Music. I think always, the Rhytmical Positioning of Notes are very importend. I learnd so mutch things espacialy in a Practical sence from you! ANd by the Way it is also a good Ear-Training!
@edzielinski
@edzielinski 4 ай бұрын
Very helpful, and extremely well done presentation. Great insights and explanation, applicable to all forms of music, not just jazz. Thanks!
@ProfeARios
@ProfeARios 5 ай бұрын
Another great jazz piano lesson. Best regards from Panama 🇵🇦
@user-bv9id3tb6s
@user-bv9id3tb6s 3 ай бұрын
Tonality is a linguistic code, a structured language within the broader spectrum of musical languages. When we discuss tonality, we’re referring to a system that has defined Western music for centuries. This code is not simply tradition; it’s a well-established framework that offers both consistency and creative potential. For example, in a Cmaj7 pedal, there are no avoid notes, and this concept is not new: Bach already explored it long before jazz musicians did. However, when we move from static harmonic contexts like pedals to more dynamic contexts like cadences, things become more intricate. Some suggest avoiding the 9th of a IIm7b5 chord in a cadence. To be clear, this chord is built on the second degree of the natural minor scale. Personally, I believe that incorporating the 9th is not only appropriate but also coherent within the context of this scale, which sets the stage for tension in a minor key. The 9th enriches the color of the chord without disrupting its function. On the other hand, I find it problematic when someone claims that it’s acceptable to play a IV on the downbeat over a tonic chord without undermining the sense of resolution. In a cadence, the relationship between tension and release is crucial, and introducing a IV in that manner dilutes the harmonic closure that tonality relies on. Again, I want to emphasize that I’m specifically talking about cadences here, not pedal points or modal static contexts. While it’s true that harmony can be expanded vertically (as already demonstrated in the 19th century), we must recognize that once we push too far beyond functional harmony, music transitions from being a structured language to becoming more akin to an abstract watercolor painting. Impressionism, particularly through Debussy, undoubtedly influenced jazz, albeit in waves and more indirectly. Yet the vast majority of jazz repertoire-around 99.99%-is composed within a code that spans from Chopin to Gershwin, from Romanticism to early Modernism. In this context, harmony is indeed expanded, but always within the limits of functional tonality. This brings me to my key question: given the name of your channel and the content you focus on, do you believe that “new jazz” must necessarily be post-tonal?
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 3 ай бұрын
Hi and thank you so much for your very enlightening comment on this. In the lesson I also try to demonstrate the use of avoid notes both in a modal sense and when doing chord progressions. The flat 9th on the ii mi7b5 chord is for example demonstrated at 19:55 - and you're so right, it sounds great. About your question; I do not think that the term "avoid notes" has any meaning in any Music in general, neither in old- or new-jazz or classical music. BUT, we can for sure avoid selected notes to make a specific sound (as I demonstrate in the lesson) - of course. It's not forbidden to avoid the so called avoid notes. In NewJazz nothing is forbidden ;) Cheers from Oliver
@user-bv9id3tb6s
@user-bv9id3tb6s 3 ай бұрын
@@NewJazz Thank you!
@dagoelius
@dagoelius 5 ай бұрын
_There are no wrong notes; some are just more right than others._ - Thelonious Monk.
@BağBozumu
@BağBozumu 5 ай бұрын
🙏
@CreateArtRecords
@CreateArtRecords 5 ай бұрын
I would go one Thought further, in Melodical Sense, there are only "weak" and "strong" Notes. The rhythmicaly Placement is crucial. And you can see the "wrong" Notes as Leading-Note to the "strong" Note. But the Line needs a understandable Meaning for the Listener.
@ColorfulKeys
@ColorfulKeys 5 ай бұрын
How come I feel like watching The Bridgerton and Lady Whistledown :). Excellent explanation, so grateful I found your channel.
@andrevlasblom2411
@andrevlasblom2411 5 ай бұрын
Great as usual!
@DiegoPerini
@DiegoPerini 5 ай бұрын
I couldn't avoid watching AVOID AVOIDING THE AVOID NOTES
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 5 ай бұрын
LOL Cheers from Oliver
@Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown
@Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown 5 ай бұрын
Can you do a lesson on the Hexatonic Scale at some point? Or is there a Video on this channel? Thank you so much your friend Bill
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 5 ай бұрын
Hi Bill :) Great suggestion! But I have so many requests so I’m not sure if or when - I hope that you understand... but I'll have it in mind for sure :) Thanks a lot for your input and feedback. Cheers from Oliver
@Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown
@Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown 5 ай бұрын
@@NewJazz no problem Oliver.
@RK-rb2jr
@RK-rb2jr 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Very calming video! Aren't all 13th chords inversions of each other since you play all 7 notes? And in the natural major scale you can order all the notes in fifths. What makes the Dorian one stable compared to the other modes? Just the order of notes?
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 5 ай бұрын
Hi :) Thanks a lot and a good question. Yes, all the Modes have the same interval structure, just different starting points/degrees. The thing about Dorian is that we can order the fifths from the very keynote (staring point) and all the way through the 13th chord and all the 7 Dorian notes. Cheers from Oliver
@aysegulbayar2390
@aysegulbayar2390 4 ай бұрын
Could you please teach me the technique of writing chords from simple to difficult for a melody? Can you make a new video about this? pls
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 4 ай бұрын
Hi :) Great suggestion! But I have so many requests so I’m not sure if or when - I hope that you understand... but I'll have it in mind for sure :) Cheers from Oliver
@tomaszgliniewicz7570
@tomaszgliniewicz7570 4 ай бұрын
How I can follow your lessons from the beginning in an logical orden?
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 4 ай бұрын
Hi :) Each of my lessons can be seen individually. But anyway, I have arranged them in a suggested order in this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLd8gNAxPUcJw1DmmWooCWx_jgKzgBfYGp Cheers from Oliver
@DS-hp6tc
@DS-hp6tc 5 ай бұрын
Yeah Come Back 👏
@DonSolaris
@DonSolaris 5 ай бұрын
At 2:25 timestamp there is C Ma7 9 notation. Why not just writing C Ma9? Cause 9th chord already includes the 7th note, no?
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 5 ай бұрын
Hi and good question. I wrote "C Ma7 9" so that the chord would not be confused with the "C9" chord that is a dominant 7th chord (the chord has a minor 7th extension). So I wrote 'Ma7' to indicate that it's a "C9" but with a Major 7th extension; 'Ma7'. Cheers from Oliver
@DonSolaris
@DonSolaris 5 ай бұрын
@@NewJazz Thank you!
@CreateArtRecords
@CreateArtRecords 5 ай бұрын
Somehow you closed the Circla with this Vid..;)
@Wulfhartus
@Wulfhartus 5 ай бұрын
this is asmr
@CreateArtRecords
@CreateArtRecords 4 ай бұрын
Is there a Rule about the Fingering on Scales.? Where to begin with the Thumb? anyone knows?
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 4 ай бұрын
Hi :) Well, no fixed rules about that. Normally we switch between thumb and middle or ring finger (when playing the scale stepwise up and down). And then we can of course do 'hand grips' ;) Cheers from Oliver
@CreateArtRecords
@CreateArtRecords 4 ай бұрын
@@NewJazz So gentle from you. THX of course..no Rules;) But your Answer helped me anyway. I like the combination of Steps and Leaps and moving Grips..
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 4 ай бұрын
Yes!!! Me too... Cheers from Oliver
@davetinoco
@davetinoco 5 ай бұрын
So unfair! I have heard these sounds in Classical music - why not JAZZ????? 😅
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that's crazy!!! Cheers from Oliver
@hiddentalentmusiccolixm2125
@hiddentalentmusiccolixm2125 5 ай бұрын
I'm the first , give me likes
@curtisnewton895
@curtisnewton895 5 ай бұрын
you hit multiple times notes you're supposed to avoid wtf ?????
@NewJazz
@NewJazz 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, that's the idea. "Avoid Avoiding the Avoid Notes" ;)
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