Avoid The Thief

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Dublin Cycling Campaign

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@JA-rn5qv
@JA-rn5qv 5 жыл бұрын
A few things they don't really mention here that can definitely help make your bike lest tempting. #1 - get quick release mechanisms for your seat and handle bars and remove them/take then with you when you lock up your bike. That already makes the bike less tempting. You can also get quick release for your front wheel, and remove the front wheel once your bike is locked up, then place that front wheel right next to your rear wheel, and pass one U-bolt through both wheels and attach that U-bolt to the frame of the bike. Then get your second U-bolt and pass that one through the wheels as well as the frame of the bike, and then to the bike rack. #2 - Use 2 or 3 u-bolt locks when you lock up your bike and lock it in a way that makes the actual u shaped bar section of the lock$ the least accessible. When getting a U-bolt type lock, get one that allows you to pull the U section completely off of the lock itself. The reason why is because you will then want to go to the hardware store and get two short sections of thick metal pipe. When you go to lock up your bike, slip one of the short sections of the metal pipe you bought on to the straight part of the U section of the lock, so that those straight sections are now additionally protected by the thick pipe which will be VERY difficult and frustrating for a thief to cut through because the pipe section will wiggle and spin around as well as doubling the time it will take to cut through. As far as the actual bent part of the U section, make sure that part is up tight against the frame of the bike and bike rack, that way it's next to impossible for them to get the right approach for the angle grinder to cut the bent part of the U section. So make sure you you have one U-bolt securing the front wheel to the frame and bike rack, another U-bolt securing the frame itself to the rack, and then the 3rd U-bolt securing the back wheel to the bike frame and and bike. Does that really help and discourage the thieves? I live in a major U.S. city where bike theft has become epidemic and is out of control. I was sitting in an outdoor Starbucks seating area this summer. The seating area had some wood lattice with green foliage growing on it so that as a person walking on the side walk approaches the bike rack which is also on the sidewalk, you wouldn't be able to see that there was anyone seated within just 5 feet of the bike rack. Anyhow as I was sitting there, sipping on an iced coffee and using the Starbucks WiFi, I hear what sounded like 2 or 3 people walking towards the bike rack where I had a relatively nice Diamond Back locked out, I heard one of them say "hey check it out".... so I peaked through the greenery to see 3 young guys standing there (one of them crouched down checking out not only my bike but the locks I had on them and exactly how I had the locks attached to every part of the bike and each lock also attached to the bike rack. They were actually able to identify exactly which model of Diamond Back bike I had as well the custom Shimano components on it, so yeah... they knew what they were doing. Anyhow after checking it out for a minute, the guy that was crouched down checking everything out finally said. "fnCk this $h!t" after ge realized that it would be a major pain in the ass and major amount of time to bypass not only all of the locks I had on the bike, but also the way I had positioned them and locked everyone of them to the bike rack itself. So they just walked off and went searching else where. The story isn't over quite yet though. I was at the Starbucks for about another 20 minutes, then decided to head out. The Starbucks was located in a shopping center with lots of other stores in the same shopping center. I need to head through the entire shopping center parking lot (about 2 blocks long) to get to the street I wanted to be on, so when I finally got to the other side of the shopping mall and was riding past a sporting goods place, I saw the terrible sight of a cable chain with lock still attached laying on the ground next to a bike right in front of the sporting goods place and I recongnized that cable chain because I had rode right past that same store on my way to Starbucks and I remember seeing the Nishiki Custom Sport ($950) bike locked up on that rack and I had to shake my head when I saw that it was locked up with a cable type lock, yeah it was a very thick cable but the difference between a thick cable and a medium cable is about 1 second of cutting time with orginary bolt cutters. Anyhow it didn't take much speculation for me to figure out that the cable lock sitting on the ground belonged to the owner of the bike which was now missing. Then as I reached the street, I could see the same 3 guys that had been checking out my bike, then were about 3/4's a a block away and had the missing bike with them of course. The wheeled it in to a parking lot across the street from the shopping center, that belong to a business that had gone bankrupt recently. The lifted the bike and put it in to the back of a beat up old trunk and drove away. I did go back to see if I could locate the bike owner, but no one in the sporting good store knew who the biked belonged to. Anyhow, that whole thing was proof positive that your best defense is to make things as hard and tedious to a potential bike theif as possible. Using the above methods, I've never had a bike stolen, and have come out of stores, to find several other bikes that were locked up next to mine (also using U-Bolts but only 1 and not positioned in the best way as described above) and those bikes were either stolen (obvious from the broken locks on the ground) or cannibalized (ie seat, handle bars, tire, breaks all gone, only frame remaining) and yet my bike not even touched. # 3 - For goodness sake if you get a brand new, expensive bike that's flashy and has huge brand name logos places all over the frame, remove what ever you can (such as emblems, adhesive films with flashy brand name stuck to frame, etc) why in the world would you want to advertise to thieves that you have a new expensive bike? After my experience at Starbucks I ended up getting some fine grit sand paper and sanded down the painted on emblems on my bike frame to make it looks as plain as possible. Then I sprayed the sanded areas which still had paint on them but no more emblems in a dull clear coat to protect the paint. Hope all of the above information and tips proves useful to anyone that's looking to avoid getting their bike stolen.
@Fridelain
@Fridelain 2 жыл бұрын
I commute using a cheap, second hand, rusty, beat up bike. While the things you suggest would undoubtably be a hassle to any would-be bike thieves, they would be an ever bigger hassle to me, day after day.
@JA-rn5qv
@JA-rn5qv 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fridelain well then do what works for you. As you can see from my comment I only mention higher costing bikes in which case it is worth it to take extra messures to protect the investment.
@xiki1506
@xiki1506 2 жыл бұрын
Que triste...
@Dramilion
@Dramilion 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight. I'll definetely try that out. Here locks are kinda expensive, and we don't have many racks for parking a bike. That would naturally led me towards a kryptonite chain rather than a U-lock. Would you agree it's a nice option or you'd still stick to the U-lock?
@coralaisly
@coralaisly 8 жыл бұрын
All of this is exactly why I wish employers who say they want their employees to ride bikes to work would provide a room inside the building for storage of the bike behind reception. It's much more difficult for some asshole off the street to waltz into a protected area of a building and leave with something they didn't walk in with. If you as a company really want to promote a greener lifestyle, you have to facilitate it. Making employees leave their bikes outside is not facilitating a cycling culture in the workplace.
@coralaisly
@coralaisly 8 жыл бұрын
***** Indeed, and it could also help the growing obesity problems (pun only kind of intended) in so many countries, too. But employers need to recognize that they have a part to play in promoting that culture, and a great way to encourage employees is to show them that they want more bikes is to help keep them safe while employees work. If they can't provide a whole room, perhaps help employees afford foldable bikes and installing a hanging rack or two in the break room, or making room at cubicles and desks for their bikes or something like that. Of course none of this will entirely eliminate theft, but it's leaps and bounds above making them leave them outside and vulnerable.
@coralaisly
@coralaisly 8 жыл бұрын
***** Never said the front door, I said in the break room or somewhere out of sight. The point of all I've said is that bikes are almost laughably easy to steal, and very easily rust etc. If I were an employee and my employer said "Yeah, we want you to bike to work, but you have to leave your bike outside, exposed to the elements, and possibly stranding you without a ride home if some jackass decides to take it while you're working because we're not going to do anything to protect you or what we're trying to encourage." I wouldn't bike to work. I would consider that an empty suggestion and lip service. Also, many employees come in and leave work before sunrise or after sunset. As a woman, I do not feel safe at all spending time outside at dark fiddling with locks and chains. It leaves me vulnerable and I already don't like going to work and getting out of my car while it's dark, but that's a lot safer than being vulnerable the wole time. If they want to promote a bike culture, they need to facilitate it, like I've been saying. Yes, sometimes that means putting your money where your mouth is.
@coralaisly
@coralaisly 8 жыл бұрын
***** I run my own business and work from home, so no, I'm not complaining about my current situation. I'm recalling a situation that a friend of mine is in where his company recently went green and were encouraging a healthier lifestyle in general and was encouraging employees to bike to work. A bunch started and bikes started getting stolen (yes, they were locked), as the area they had to lock them up is out of sight and isolated. Management basically responded that that wasn't their problem while continuing to promote bike commutes to those who lived close enough that it was possible and practical. I hear what you're saying, but argument is that if the company is going to encourage bike commutes, they should show interest in facilitating it, and that having employees make an investment in another form of transportation and then doing absolutely nothing to protect it means their encouragement is empty. If I had employees and were encouraging a commute on bikes, I would talk to bike companies and see if we could get some sort of group discount on folding bikes that employees could lock up at their stations or somewhere inside that's protected, or at least put up decent cameras or some form of security. I would consider it holding up my end of the bargain.
@coralaisly
@coralaisly 8 жыл бұрын
***** It's really pointless to discuss this any further as absolutely nothing is going to change.
@coralaisly
@coralaisly 8 жыл бұрын
***** Tone is difficult to gauge through text. I'm not worked up, I simply have a writing style that makes me sound more passionate than I am. If you were to hear me speak about it, you would not have gotten that impression. Even if I were, though, my points should stand on their own merit, regardless of how I feel. ;)
@ThunderMan88
@ThunderMan88 10 жыл бұрын
I just use a heavy ass chain.You get sad just by looking at it.The point is, no matter what lock you use, if someone wants to steal it,they will steal it
@SertanejaMusic
@SertanejaMusic 10 жыл бұрын
LOL!! "You get sad just by looking at it", that made me laugh. :p I used to use cheap ass locks and think it was ok, until my sisters bike got stolen last month. It was a brand new bike and I bought it for her, so that was a wake-up call for me. Now we are locking our bikes with a 13mm hardened special steel U-lock from Abus and onto vast objects in the city. I'm also gonna get an Abus chain lock, fully hardened steel, 9 mm shackles. Unless they use an angle grinder, which cuts through about! anything, I wish them good luck stealing my bike. Frigging thieves! Should use that grinder to chop their hands off!
@experiment54
@experiment54 6 жыл бұрын
Seertaneja Fan Your 13mm U-Lock is putty to a pair of small easily hidden and carried bolt cutters. You need atleast 14mm to force them to use a larger more cumbersome set of bolt cutters. Look on youtube you will see videos showing exactly that.
@thomasheward7999
@thomasheward7999 4 жыл бұрын
@@experiment54 I suggest nothing less than an 18mm u lock, an alarm (130db) disc brake lock and a 3' hardened steel chain for starters.
@maniji5756
@maniji5756 2 жыл бұрын
here around 10 years later, Very informative video showing how it needs to be done and how not to be done along with additional info on safe keeping ! thank you
@obiwankenobi661
@obiwankenobi661 5 жыл бұрын
honestly, the best/easiest way to steal a bike is to take a camera guy with you, in broad daylight, no one will even bother to look.
@elephantgrass631
@elephantgrass631 8 жыл бұрын
When the guy is speaking and pointing to a lock... PLEASE SHOW HIS FINGER POINTING TO THE LOCK AND THE BIKE. He was talking about how poorly the bikes were locked but the camera was pointed at his face most of the time and then a quick glance at the bike, then a quick cut to another shot of his face doing the EXACT SAME THING.
@CharlesLe-thephotographer
@CharlesLe-thephotographer 8 жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly
@obscurelyvague
@obscurelyvague 7 жыл бұрын
Poor cameraman skills
@EIIjot
@EIIjot 10 жыл бұрын
Also it doesnt hurt to lock your bike beside a worse locked bike or a bike that looks nicer than yours. That way if someone was gonna rob it theyd probably just rob the other. Sad but true.
@obscurelyvague
@obscurelyvague 7 жыл бұрын
A good idea at the surface, but let me warn you that I myself have tried that. I have only bought "low quality" bikes, and have locked them among other far -more expensive-looking bikes (which are easy to find since my bikes have not been the best kind), but on two different occasions my crummy department-store, mass-produced low-quality bikes have been stolen when there were much better bikes chained nearby. It could be that bike thieves have some kind of elaborate theft ring going on and they leave better-looking bikes chained nearby to fool people into thinking that good bikes are locked all over the area, and therefore it gives the impression that good bikes don't get stolen in the location, so it is a "safe place." Think about this.
@dylant3524
@dylant3524 7 жыл бұрын
Expensive bikes can be traced better than a cheap bike.
@kd5nrh
@kd5nrh 7 жыл бұрын
Plenty of low-quality bikes have a lot more eye-candy factor than better ones. I work in a bike shop, and 9 times out of 10 when something bright and colorful rolls in it's from WalMart. The Treks, Cannondales, Burleys, etc. are much more subdued looking, with single color or otherwise less eye catching paint jobs.
@221b-l3t
@221b-l3t 5 жыл бұрын
@David Shaw Take pictures of the serial numbers like he said, buy a good lock and get insurance. A 2000+ dollar bike is a lot harder to sell and much easier to trace. Luckily most bike thieves are opportunists that take some crap bike to get them home or sell for a shot of heroin. And put it next to comparable bikes with worse locks. The sad thing is that those fuckers who go after high end bikes will also be the kind to bring cordless angle grinders. And they make discs now that barely make any sparks. Great for home improvement but not the greatest invention for bike security. And the people I know with super duper nice bikes, take em wherever they go. At least those fancy carbon bikes aren't too hard to put over shoulder and bring inside.
@claudenicholson3894
@claudenicholson3894 2 жыл бұрын
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@sashaisgod2309
@sashaisgod2309 3 жыл бұрын
At 1:20 there is Drury Street Car Park which right now has a lot of space for bikes right now at a different entrance. I find I can rest better when I can leave it in there overnight. I have also seen videos of those great locks being smashed right through in seconds from something in a backpack or in the coat.
@sashaisgod2309
@sashaisgod2309 3 жыл бұрын
I like combination locks that are chains. I hate losing keys, and is a thief going to go through 100,000 possible combinations to get it open? He has more chance of coming upon the key that I dropped for the same kind of lock.
@TheAnonyy
@TheAnonyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@sashaisgod2309 all you have to do with combinations is pull/tension onthe lock and move the numbers around until it becomes harder to move to open it. combinations should not be used.
@madman2u
@madman2u 10 жыл бұрын
LoL at the people using normal locks you normally would use at a gym locker or similar, most of these would be easy enough to cut trough in a split second. Though you'd probably not need a bolt cutter or similar, a simple paper clip would do. Combination locks you could smash with a hammer and they'll break. The lock he shown in the beginning, similar to a motorcycle lock, it would be cut trough with bolt cutter if you do it at the right place. Most locks unfortunately will not be secure enough if the thief got a bolt cutter, however you can make it harder for them to take/keep your bike. Some of the tips he stated in the end of this video. Another is to get a tracker device which will report any movement and the current position via GSM, by sending you a text message once a while. This way you can get your bike back fairly easy and have the cops take the thief in. Press charges, get money and spoil your bike with some new stuff ;)
@EmeraldlorraineOC
@EmeraldlorraineOC 11 жыл бұрын
The proper lock is key! I got back my stolen bike in front of a hostel (Huntington Beach, California). Great informative video.
@karanbantawa6236
@karanbantawa6236 6 жыл бұрын
The best, most informative, most practical video on bike security so far! Thank you to Gareth and all producers for the creativity!! :)
@LOCKnLOAD122
@LOCKnLOAD122 4 жыл бұрын
Always make sure both wheels and frame is locked. Unless you have anti theft skewers for both wheels are great as well. Lock up seat as well if it has a quick release. Take all removable accessories lights, bags and pumps etc. with you. Lastly, double check and make sure it's locked up to an immovable object. Good luck and always be vigilant.
@asemnafiz
@asemnafiz 11 жыл бұрын
Same here. I use U-lock and combination chain lock. Throughout the internet people have been telling me that a combination chain lock is useless and it might come handy only when there is another bike parked next to yours which has one less lock and thief might go for that to save time. Even then it takes about 4 seconds to cut a combination chain lock with a long bolt cutter.
@lavayuki
@lavayuki 8 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of dismantled bikes around with wheels stolen and sometimes even the seats. The bike shop guy recommended me that Kryptonite dual U lock which I've not had problem with so far, but my bike is a secondhand crappy looking bike, so I doubt many thieves would bother
@Redrush11
@Redrush11 8 жыл бұрын
you would be surprised
@SocyQueen2012
@SocyQueen2012 5 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks! What's wrong with combination locks? You didn't explain. Please expand.
@MattWhittingham
@MattWhittingham 11 жыл бұрын
Great video, good advice. Surprising how few people secure their bikes properly
@janr.1077
@janr.1077 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for all the information you have put on here about locking up bikes properly n how to prove you have owned the bike in the case it is stolen. A very informative video!
@martinobrien4882
@martinobrien4882 11 ай бұрын
To take one look at my bike, a would be thief would have to be desperate to steal it. it was 500 new, but that was a long time ago, and all the rust makes it less tempting to steal, but the secret is in all that rust and wear and tear, its is a well maintained bike, and like triggers broom, apart from the frame, everything has been replaced at least once. it still cycles like new, but no one but he desperate fool is going to steal it. that been said, a good quality U lock through the back wheel, and a chain lock through the front!!
@sachellebabbar9005
@sachellebabbar9005 8 жыл бұрын
Wasn't shocked at the recommendations he showed of trash locks that are easily defeated, but more so surprised that I can understand him. Bravo.
@seriouscheez
@seriouscheez 11 жыл бұрын
The best vid on this topic I have found so far... Good work.
@donaloflynn
@donaloflynn 11 жыл бұрын
Great video. As someone intending on taking up cycling it's nice to hear an expert explain the theory of good bike locking. I don't agree with leaving your lock on a pole when you're bike isn't there as not only could a thief tamper with your lock, but it's just unsightly too. Lots of bikes are a good sign of a vibrant city. Lots of locks just suggests that cyclists are lazy.
@Matyme
@Matyme 11 жыл бұрын
Combination locks are really easy to unlock. You can see video's on here to show you has easy it is.
@lazurm
@lazurm 2 жыл бұрын
I always bring my bicycle inside where I am and, if not allowed to, the folding bike usually is accepted. If that is not allowed, I either take the car or don't use the establishment. Note, I own the best locks available but only use them when traveling as I lock my bicycle inside my van to an attachment point made for this purpose. I realize, though, that not everyone is as fortunate as I am in terms of where to leave their bicycle. In that case, I'd use a "beater bike", made to look like garbage, and locked with the best locks. As long as I'm beating the cost of a car I don't worry about its eventual theft.
@dewiowen3010
@dewiowen3010 11 жыл бұрын
Well done mate. Good film. Clear to the point.
@ThroatSore
@ThroatSore 4 жыл бұрын
Photo with you and the bike. I would not have thought of that bit its sooooo obvious. Thanks for this. Gent is dead entertaining too 🙂
@rokker101
@rokker101 6 жыл бұрын
very good video and advice … ive had a new bike recently after my last one was stolen and ive got 6 security devices on it including two alarms .. so what more can I do eh?
@manicirishwriter
@manicirishwriter 5 жыл бұрын
Phil John what did you go with?
@sandramcnamara9057
@sandramcnamara9057 5 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. I have a question that needs answering and the more opinions I have the clearer my mind will be. I went to the shops today and I used a Kryptonite and a magnum lock (both U-locks) I U-locked on both my wheels and frame. I used the strong cable (Both came with U-locks) to secure my seat, rack and basket. It’s my first time leaving my bike at a supermarket bike rack so I was rushing as fast as I could. Not even 2 minutes inside the shop, self doubt started to kick in and my brain was starting to nag and say things like I didn’t attach the lock to the post. ( you know the most important thing) I ran out the shop and was relieved to see it still there and attached to the post but I looked up to see some guy STARRING at my bike. 😮 I kind of ‘rudely asked if he’s alright. He jumped and asked if the bike was mine. I said yes. He said he was admiring it and then left. I was stood there for about 2 mins scratching my head. I went to get my shopping. My question is do you guys think he was ‘admiring’ my bike or do you think he was about to pinch it?! He just looked like your average guy. Pls help because it’s my first time locking up my bike in public and it scared me! I know I locked it up with top quality locks and I made sure EVERYTHING was locked. How long do you guys lock your bikes? I only left for 2 mins! I’m glad I trusted my intuition! Pls help and give your opinions because I’m contemplating not leaving my bike anywhere other than my house.
@CyclingCampaign
@CyclingCampaign 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Sandra, keep trusting your intuition. Always lock your bike fully when leaving it in public - sometimes it can be tempting to just use one lock if you're "popping in for a minute" but most thefts are opportunist, so don't give thieves the opportunity! Sometimes supermarket bike racks are placed in secluded areas, so perhaps look a more public location with something sturdy to lock the bike to. It can also be worth flagging incidents like this with the shop management so they are more aware of thieves operating near them.
@sandramcnamara9057
@sandramcnamara9057 5 жыл бұрын
Dublin Cycling Campaign Thanks so much. Your right the bike rack was at the side of the shop and I also noticed when I walked inside some people left their bikes behind the security desk. Granted I don’t know if those bikes belong to employees but I will take your advise and talk to the security guards and ask them if they think it’s safe to leave my bike there. Thanks again.
@lorenzogiancristofaro9721
@lorenzogiancristofaro9721 8 жыл бұрын
should i invest in two quality U locks for frame, front and back wheel or should i just buy one and use a cable like shown? i mean a cable like that can be snapped in no time
@littlegoobie
@littlegoobie 8 жыл бұрын
the theory is that you should use 2 types of locks so you can defeat the poor thieves who only carry 1 hand tool that defeats cables or ulock or chains but probably not all 3. The reality of it is that all cables can be cut faster than you can take it off with a key so cables are only for securing things you don't mind losing. this includes "armoured" cables.
@8maradona
@8maradona 11 жыл бұрын
Nitro glycerine takes care of most locks or if you have one, stick of dynamite with cigar (for lighting fuse)
@danyaalhusain2624
@danyaalhusain2624 5 жыл бұрын
If there is no pole and I’m going away for a few minutes can I lock the seatpole to the back wheel?
@TrNdke
@TrNdke 9 жыл бұрын
I always use a hardened chain with integrated, pick-resistant hardened lock. They're a pain in the ass to break compared to u-locks. Also, when locking the wheels, make sure you capture the rim, not just the spokes. Otherwise, a few snips with side cutters and you're s.o.l.
@littlegoobie
@littlegoobie 8 жыл бұрын
the steel in chains are as good as ULocks. the weakness of chains is that they can be moved around to make them easier to cut with bolt cutters. Chains are usually very heavy compared to a ULock using the same thickness steel.
@shadowdance4666
@shadowdance4666 5 жыл бұрын
My bike weighs #70 without the electric motor engaged which also has a bolt lock in the battery. Add a couple of D locks and a cable will give the thief a reason to keep on walking somewhere else especially if since the bike new is under 1.5k. A stolen bike value is only a quarter at best. Less if they can’t engage the electric aspect
@mattouli
@mattouli 10 жыл бұрын
Hadn't occurred to me to thread one end of the cable through the other; I'll see if it works with mine... :)
@freedom456able
@freedom456able 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I don't bike to work. Employers need to step up by providing a secure place for bicycles. I never have lost my own bicycles for a reason. KRYPTONITE D-Locks with combinations of Cables or Chains with the D-LOCKS... It depends where you go. I took my bike rack off the truck during camping & both bikes were D-Locks with my Motor-Cycle-Chain with the bike rack, no one could ever pick it up while the Hitch lock was on it as well LOL! ... Make it more trouble then its worth.
@TheAnonyy
@TheAnonyy 2 жыл бұрын
do not use cable locks they are easily cut with bolt croppers extension cables that are thick is the same. i think 13mm d locks can be cut with bolt croppers
@martinmchugh1924
@martinmchugh1924 3 жыл бұрын
Best video on the topic be a country mile and it's 8 years old. Great idea to actually go around and display examples of bad locks and bad methods!
@Nordmore68
@Nordmore68 10 жыл бұрын
Don't do that rattling with chains on the bikes locked to poles and bikestands! They get scratches!
@TheAnonyy
@TheAnonyy 2 жыл бұрын
i don't agree with spending only 10% of the value of the bike some people buy one second hand or in sale my bike was under £300 so he's saying i should only spend £27 on my lock which would be a crappy u lock; That wont stop any thief and i may as well save that £27 and hand the bike to them. Let's face it ALL locks can be broken into. So i don't think this argument holds any water these days as all thieves need is a axel grinder and it'll be off in 30 seconds. I love my bike and is my pride and joy despite its low value it has had a couple of looks from thieves trying to figure out how to break my lock. I'm actually buying extra locks. Even today i came across a nice looking bike only locked with a combination lock this fool is asking for it to be nicked. If you don't care about your bike; that's your choice but consider that these thieves will watch your movements and will come back again to steal another from you as you keep making the same mistake, they could follow you home and break into wherever you store your bike, and if there is another bike in there BINGO!! In the end its costing the owner time and money replacing the bike and the lock. I'm looking into securing the parts on my bike with Hexlock, check it out. Do yourself a favour and secure your bike properly and stop making yourself a target!
@tinabird87
@tinabird87 8 жыл бұрын
WOW! Great Video! Very Informative! Thank you so much!
@TheBullethead1988
@TheBullethead1988 10 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thanks!
@cosmicheretic8129
@cosmicheretic8129 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tips. Time to invest in a better lock!
@MikeMusicandMotivation
@MikeMusicandMotivation 8 жыл бұрын
At 2:00 min can the lock you put be put on the opposite way so it's locking the front tire instead ?
@hm6448
@hm6448 8 жыл бұрын
Mike Acceptance yep
@MikeMusicandMotivation
@MikeMusicandMotivation 8 жыл бұрын
That's how I lock my bike up every time just you showed at 2 mins in
@BigManator
@BigManator 8 жыл бұрын
but it is better to lock the back wheel with the main lock, because back wheels are more expensive and harder to replace because of the gears.
@dangr123
@dangr123 7 жыл бұрын
Also... get the lock around the rim, not the spokes.
@mrs.c5471
@mrs.c5471 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you use 2 of the U locks, one in front and one in back?
@experiment54
@experiment54 6 жыл бұрын
That first lock isnt two types of lock in one. Its one lock. A thief just cuts the U-Lock and the cable falls off with it. For it to be two locks the cable would need its own locking mechanism.
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 11 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with a thick cable lock with combination? I've seen people open those U ones with pens.
@traceurZero
@traceurZero 11 жыл бұрын
Could I ask why exactly you view the combination lock as your "enemy" (by that im assuming you mean not very good) I use a U-Lock and a combi chain lock personally
@proof2580
@proof2580 11 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nicely done!
@renethanoche1853
@renethanoche1853 8 жыл бұрын
Im curious about Dreadlocks how does it lock? lol
@ilijazec7888
@ilijazec7888 9 жыл бұрын
4:35 very good locking and nice bike
@kanch8276
@kanch8276 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice man, thanks , cheers
@iRotiz
@iRotiz 11 жыл бұрын
How can you carry a U- Lock on you if it will not fit on your bike?
@charlieharper4975
@charlieharper4975 7 жыл бұрын
I had my locked bike stolen on the busiest street in Berkeley, California. I came out of a store another time in Berkeley and found a street bum taking stuff out of my bike bag. Caught another street bum just as he was taking my bike out of my garage - broad daylight. Best anti-theft device? 9mm
@TheLastCockney
@TheLastCockney 6 жыл бұрын
9mm? I prefer 45ACP, they go down & stay down!
@1RungAtATime
@1RungAtATime 6 жыл бұрын
You just leave the 9mm to watch over the bike while you're in the store?
@barlow2976
@barlow2976 5 жыл бұрын
How's a gun going to help, unless you're guarding the bike all day? Try locking your garage and bike with decent locks perhaps? Typical dumb replies from dumb gun owners.
@gambit_toys6554
@gambit_toys6554 4 жыл бұрын
I don't feel sorry for bums
@republicofsandles
@republicofsandles 11 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thank you.
@danielrenouf957
@danielrenouf957 9 жыл бұрын
Who came up with the 10% rule for a lock? So basically if you get a bike on sale for less than £30 you can use an old bit of string to tether it to a lamppost.
@lucianonarno1408
@lucianonarno1408 8 жыл бұрын
Price is not the same as value. You should spend 10% of the value of your bike on a lock. My bicycle is worth like 1000usd but it had no price to me as it was a gift. I should spend 100usd on a lock although I paid 0 for the bike.
@ACMDevils
@ACMDevils 11 жыл бұрын
cheap combo or expensive combo ? wisely locked ?(how to) on what ?, in wich place ? in daylight or at night ? for how many hours ? in an isolated place or trafficated one ?, questions are many, think on all of them, i keep seeing broken and stolen bikes at train stations, i never leave mine there, still people keeps bringing in bikes (they must be new residents i suppose) avoid certain places, avoid many hours, avoid nights, invest in the best systems, your % on bike loss will drop dramatically
@siZeDcuBe
@siZeDcuBe 7 жыл бұрын
How do you protect the seat?
@fraggod
@fraggod 7 жыл бұрын
siZeDcuBe with thin cable, Like He showed it on the front wheel, do it through your seat bars just under your seat. They need a little bolt cutter to steal it.
@tigerhe8954
@tigerhe8954 4 жыл бұрын
and that's why I ordered 4 bike locks a u lock, 2 cable locks and disc lock
@__Nikola__
@__Nikola__ 10 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, what is wrong with combination locks..? I would assume that it is easier to pick a key lock than the combination one on the same type.
@Kit_Bear
@Kit_Bear 9 жыл бұрын
***** least resistance mate. I'm not a thief, I'm a locksmith.
@__Nikola__
@__Nikola__ 9 жыл бұрын
***** Ok, I got it :) But what if someone puts a toothpick in your key lock? It's the only reason I would prefer a combination lock but now that you warned me it is better not to buy any lock but keep a bicycle always with me :)
@Kit_Bear
@Kit_Bear 9 жыл бұрын
Nikola A Simple, buy a disc based locking system like an Abloy or an Abus Plus, it would have to be a pretty big toothpick to fit in one of those.
@bilalqureshi1440
@bilalqureshi1440 9 жыл бұрын
Mwh loks
@mrwabbit9576
@mrwabbit9576 4 жыл бұрын
bike shared with my friend for a bit. He used two cable locks that cost £1 each. Was stolen within 3 months.
@princeofexane
@princeofexane 7 жыл бұрын
that was really a help. thanks
@dosadosa112
@dosadosa112 Жыл бұрын
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! kzbin.infoUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
@rokker101
@rokker101 6 жыл бұрын
if only we could have some device where an electric shock would be given and a big one at that too … within the law of course
@JA-rn5qv
@JA-rn5qv 5 жыл бұрын
Me and a friend of mine actually rigged up such a thing with a u-bolt style lock and a disassembled taser. It worked quite effectively (more than once lol). I don't recommend just anyone do it though because you REALLY have to know what you are doing when it comes to the high voltage step up capacitors in tasers.
@jeffxgoodman67
@jeffxgoodman67 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear you say the words, "Periwinkle Blue." Consider it in a future video.
@darz_k.
@darz_k. 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - I'm here a bit late, though thanks for the great info!
@TeddyJSmooth
@TeddyJSmooth 2 жыл бұрын
When I buy unlock that come with cables they tend to get in the way. And beside you really don't need them, this is just my opinion.
@TheAnonyy
@TheAnonyy 2 жыл бұрын
cables are easy to cut no matter its thickness its more of a deterrent. i use mine if i'm locking up for long periods.
@maciejciszewski7525
@maciejciszewski7525 11 жыл бұрын
Ireland had 15-20 years of prosperity. Why this didnt eliminate crime? Do you guys have eny thoughts abaut that?
@munsterscelina7676
@munsterscelina7676 3 жыл бұрын
thank you very much!!!
@grabba73
@grabba73 10 жыл бұрын
On Ohio we were there for almost 6 yrs and only heard of ONE bike taken from some kid down the street from us. Sad how even here in Rhode Island like 8 of ten people you talk to had one taken. I lost three from 1982-1987. Crazy, because you think nobody wants to lose their bike, so you think we are smart enough to think twice before stealing someones bike. Its low down and rude as heck, so just leave peoples cars, moto's and bikes alone. Peace, that would be a nice. :)
@ACMDevils
@ACMDevils 11 жыл бұрын
backpack/bike bag?
@3rddrum
@3rddrum 11 жыл бұрын
Most of those bike racks could be cut with a $5 hacksaw. I think I could lean against one and work behind my back and cut it with a pipe cutter and load in my parked next to one in 2 minutes.
@GETTHEDEUCE
@GETTHEDEUCE 11 жыл бұрын
Only certain U locks can be opened with a pen & retailers have stopped selling them but they are still showing up on Amazon the normal key type is ok & combination locks are crap very easy to either open or cut U locks are the best but with portable grinders nothings 100% safe Better to buy a cheap bike or get a second hand one from the police auctions
@OriginalRipndip
@OriginalRipndip 11 жыл бұрын
thanks, ive never left my bike outside in nyc so i dont get to ride much but I would say park it outside a store with cameras and hope they cooperate in case of crime.
@hollyvelocitygrl
@hollyvelocitygrl 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid Colin Farrell
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 6 жыл бұрын
Wise advise.
@michaellawlor5625
@michaellawlor5625 6 жыл бұрын
Mine was hacksawed the other day. The police just came in time. Silver rated lock, it done its job, but just brought the new york kryptonite.
@CoifStorm
@CoifStorm 11 жыл бұрын
Only problem with his lock was that, if a thief was to remove the few spokes which the lock went around and undo the wheel, the wheel is gone.
@jonatanguitar
@jonatanguitar 7 жыл бұрын
I can understand that there's a possibility that many combination locks sucks, but is it the very quality of the material or the pure fact that it's a combination lock that is bad?
@jonatanguitar
@jonatanguitar 7 жыл бұрын
***** Aha, like if we're in a hurry we might only switch our combination from say "222" to "223" something like that?
@Fridelain
@Fridelain 2 жыл бұрын
On the gym locker, I always set it to 7777 when closed(My combo doesn't have a single 7)
@jezlanejl
@jezlanejl 7 жыл бұрын
Non of those "Expensive" locks would take more than a minute to cut through. The fact is a pro bike thief will have your bike. That leaves opportunists and really any lock will do apart from those code locks which anyone can pick in 30secs....
@tennicktenstyl
@tennicktenstyl 7 жыл бұрын
Harry Limes good quality lock will take far more than that. The thing is those are super expensive and heavy.
@Ocinematique
@Ocinematique 8 жыл бұрын
Best video so far...
@florinelfratica
@florinelfratica 4 жыл бұрын
This was useful, thank you!
@synhet84
@synhet84 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic !
@unda25
@unda25 5 жыл бұрын
I pay 40 pounds for my Mtb muddy fox, where can I find 4 pounds locl
@acyutanandadas1326
@acyutanandadas1326 5 жыл бұрын
I put Police Dept stickers on my bike, Cops gave them to me free
@andrewmuelleranantababaji8073
@andrewmuelleranantababaji8073 4 жыл бұрын
Have e bike downtown Chicago also have schwinn cargo trailer how would you lock both together outside whole foods? Have 2 cable locks and one heavy duty u lock a Bell?
@Crustenscharbap
@Crustenscharbap 10 жыл бұрын
Advise from me: If you are going to buy a used bike (for example ebay), you should ask for the frame number and for the original bill. If he has only the frame number, call the police. This bike might be seached. So you are save and you help the police. U locks and folded locks got the best test results.
@mcjcg1372
@mcjcg1372 6 жыл бұрын
Grate video I learned a lot my bike was stolen last week and i added this video to my bike Thief play list I hope that's ok
@beggo321
@beggo321 12 жыл бұрын
Really great video
@gerryarty8342
@gerryarty8342 5 жыл бұрын
Very good
@ACMDevils
@ACMDevils 11 жыл бұрын
it was a faulty lock model
@rcfanaticdublin
@rcfanaticdublin 3 жыл бұрын
How has it taken me 9 years to see this???...Two decent lock's when out and about...Keep it inside the house if you can. Tip...just turn the handlebar sideways as i did in a tiny hallway in D15. Stay safe folkes.
@norrisbowling
@norrisbowling 11 жыл бұрын
Jack sparrow!
@bertos910
@bertos910 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ZVEZDAjeZAKON
@ZVEZDAjeZAKON 11 жыл бұрын
Just scratch ALL tags and trademark names on your bike and its components. OR paint them over. Thieves always choose good bikes, they always go after words such as Deore, Magura or Specialized. Just make their names invisible and use basic lock systems and thieves will always choose anoter bike.
@madman2u
@madman2u 10 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that you may have to do just that just to keep your stuff. Though you wouldn't have to paint or scratch it away as you state it, simply put stickers of your choosing over the bike logos. This way you wont have vandalize your own bike...
@andrewso781
@andrewso781 10 жыл бұрын
Haha, I have a cheapo $300 bike but I covered it with nearly a hundred stickers for the sole purpose of deterring thieves. Plus, if it ever does get stolen, it will be easily recognizable.
@madman2u
@madman2u 10 жыл бұрын
***** Easily recognizable by you perhaps and unless if have photographic evidence or similar it would be your word against a thief's. You could do like this that you put something inside the bike, where no one would normally look. Like in the saddle bar or in the handles. Perhaps a note that states ownership. Writing down any serial number may also be a good way to prove you're the owner. Anyway... if you find your bike you could always just take it back home. Though that way, may be displeasing to the thief, they may just go and steal another bike. This is why it's important to call the police and catch the thief red handed. You prove it's your bike and then sue the thief. They will at least get registered as an offender, i.e a bicycle thief and you may get compensated. Either way you get your bike back.
@andrewso781
@andrewso781 10 жыл бұрын
madman2u HAHA, what kind of person would tat their bike with stickers without taking pictures, especially of the serial number? My bike is 90% aftermarket, meaning I can state every part along with its manufacturer, price, and defect. Plus, in my city, the cyclists created a Facebook group devoted to reporting and spotting bike thieves.
@madman2u
@madman2u 10 жыл бұрын
***** One cannot simply assume that everyone would document their bike, the same as one wouldn't document every things they have bought trough the years. Surly it would be good to do so if you had a break in, because then you have proof of what you own and can make legal claim or get compensated by your insurance company easier.
@ayeejiff9847
@ayeejiff9847 Жыл бұрын
The Accent is quite Legendary
@ninhkieutrinh9211
@ninhkieutrinh9211 4 жыл бұрын
Bike very nice
@stevensim5367
@stevensim5367 5 жыл бұрын
2:51 - those locks costs £1 from Poundland - does the 10% of the bike value rule mean the owner considers the bike is worth £10!
@Fridelain
@Fridelain 2 жыл бұрын
The cheapest lock will deter a "troubled youth" from just getting on the bike and riding it away. A determined thief will bring bolt cutters or a cordless angle grinder with him, able to cut 20£ and 200£ locks with ease, in seconds.
@folasko5120
@folasko5120 8 жыл бұрын
yo, Jack Sparrow. sup.
@szekelyerik
@szekelyerik 11 жыл бұрын
THANK you
@TheLastCockney
@TheLastCockney 6 жыл бұрын
You can never make your bike thief proof, you can only make it so the other guys bike is easier to steal. Sad but true 😰
@Catcrumbs
@Catcrumbs 12 жыл бұрын
I would disagree with his advice to leave your heavy bicycle lock where you lock your bike when the lock is not in use. An observant thief will notice your comings and goings and be free to tamper with your lock when it's not securing your bike. Also, if you lock your rear wheel within the rear triangle to a secure object, you needn't lock the frame.
@le-ar
@le-ar 10 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me why so many thefts of bikes? is no one around, ever, looking around or trying to thwart thieves somehow? do people see theft in progress and just keep walking or look the other way? are there never any cameras anywhere to record criminal action? it's like the city is an open picnic basket for any punk s.o.b. to just leisurely do whatever they want and steal and take their time about it.
@yony120
@yony120 10 жыл бұрын
Most people do ignore bike thefts when they see them.
@parks.
@parks. 10 жыл бұрын
my god that chain at 4:11 ! that things huuuuge
@leolealuianderson5291
@leolealuianderson5291 3 жыл бұрын
I never use locks. Have had One bike and one motorcycle stolen. I recovered motorcycle by putting reward out for it. Guy was caught and killed by the locals(in south America) ouch.
@williamparker2922
@williamparker2922 7 жыл бұрын
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