Avoiding Gear-Up Landings and Gear Collapses

[@HermenVonkeman]

I like this guy. More please. Cool, calm, factual, no drama.

[@nostaljosh]

there was drama before? lol

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

To avoid gear-up landings I simply lower the gear before I land.

[@os9706]

Salute🥂

[@rn2811]

😂

[@kenjohnson6137]

I’ve heard some say the same thing afterwards when explaining they heard the sheet metal.

[@HondoSauce]

😂

[@alpenglow1235]

Roaming Adhocrat, Ignorance is bliss. After ATC commanded N468AC, with two pilots and 105 passengers aboard, to go-around, N468AC landed with the gear up. N10556 was landed gear-up. Just two guys having a bad day? After a series of distractions, the two pilots of VH-VQ, an A-320, ... ASRS receives an average of 60 gear-up landing safety reports each year. There is a lot of forgetfulness out there. Pilots forget to check-in on freq, they forget to refuel, they forget to set the flaps and slats for takeoff, they forget to retract the speed brakes, and so much more. Forgetfulness (read Distraction) is everywhere. In this profession, you’re only as good as your last landing. Can you really afford to be distracted?

[@kuzingatia7962]

There goes my best friend teaching y'all how to fly again, I'm proud of you, Marcus ✈ ✊🏾

[@unlisted773]

Well done video! I like this guy's calm demeanor and that voice made for radio.

[@wetter4293]

Agreeed!

[@telescopebuilder]

Was like a podcast, with video… sooo I guess a well made video.

[@kevinmccleary7923]

Make more videos with this guy! Great voice and info.

[@2uiator325]

I habitually throw in what some call a “Career Check” when approaching the under run. “Career Check - Gear Down”. The fact that its easy it to screw up the basics with a bad result helps to remind me to perform this check right before landing.

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

This is almost always attributed to that malady that can affect any of us at any time, especially when we least expect it: doing something dumb because we’re human. Recently I read of a passenger who was unnerved by the pilot’s use of four words on a sticky note stuck to his dash: “LOWER GEAR BEFORE LANDING.” I say kudos to him! Whatever works!

[@24100mw]

Flying my Bonanza I always put the gear down before the flaps, you don’t forget to put down flaps as you slow, but you may forget the gear.

[@brian1570]

In my Mooney I use my gear as a kind of speed break. Entering the downwind, gear speed, gear swing.

[@Kevlux86]

Well done video! This gent’s voice is butter!

[@danni1993]

This guy is great, but I loved the previous guy's voice too.

[@johnmajane3731]

Good points and I have known some experience people who have managed to gear a plane up. I do one GUMP abeam the numbers, another after turning base, quick verification before turning final and then check everything foward (Propeller and Mixture) and three in the green on short final. I do not move anything until clearing the runway and stopping. Then I look at the flap control before raising the flaps and then clean the plane up before moving. I fly a F35 Bonanza and you could easily move the wrong switch if not careful.

[@jjohnston94]

That's what I was taught: Identify the flaps, raise the flaps.

[@johnmajane3731]

@@jjohnston94 it is a real problem with early Bonanzas. Lots of "gear ups" on the roll out. Touch nothing until clear and stopped.

[@calvinnickel9995]

Those Bonanzas have about the worst ergonomics of any aircraft ever made. Beautiful switchgear but very easy to confuse the gear with just about any other switch on the panel. Even with that tiny protruding wheel.

[@johnmajane3731]

@@calvinnickel9995 I cannot agree with that statement. With any retractable gear plane I do not do touch and goes. I land, get on the taxiway and look at what I am moving first before moving it. There are only two piano keys that are not smooth. The one on the right has a section of wheel. The on on the left a simple rendition of a flap. I have an F35 with the originals. Very easy plane to fly by the way.

[@rotorheadv8]

How to avoid gear up landings… It’s called “Landing checklist”

[@oconnorcm]

Excellent voice for my old ears. Slow, deliberate, no drama. This is the kind of voice I seek on KZbin, on the news, and hope for in ATC. Well done, AOPA Air Safety Institute. Your videos make me sad, but they are super important and valuable. EVERY pilot need watch and reflect upon EVERY one of your videos, and then after reenergizing and overcoming the sadness accompanying this loss of life, watch all of the videos a second time. No matter how well we fly and how great our judgment, these videos humble us and give us food for thought. There but for…, go I….

[@thebadgerpilot]

A lot of these tips are good for any emergency, not just gear related!

[@FranksMSFlightSimulator]

Nice presentation, and great safety advice, thanks. Cheers.

[@cramjam]

Awesome video. I find that when my gear is up it is incredibly hard to slow down my airplane. It seem impossible not to notice that I am going way to fast but maybe the gear has less of an impact in other planes.

[@MadSocial]

Just fly tricycle! 😉It's the best way to avoid gear mishaps. 🤣 Have a blessed weekend and seriously, thank you for the tips.

[@jimmiller5600]

"down & welded" rules.

[@gabrielvazquez1691]

I started complex aircraft training last week. Thanks for the little reminder.

[@danielgoodson703]

Excellent. Complacency cleaned away…. Like dust creeping back to your home, complacency will return, however today your clear and succinct presentation helped blow it away. Thank you.

[@pyromcr]

I'll never forget teaching a multi student when he forgot the gear. The G1000 system was smarter than most and literally said "Check Gear" repeatedly while flashing a caution message at first then as you descended increased it's intensity and changed to a master warning on the PFD. The student didn't notice the caution and on final at about 300 feet just silenced the warning and kept going. I was honestly dumbfounded at how stupid people can be.

[@sakadabara]

This boy is a gem! Camera loves him, diction - bespoke .

[@colecotten26]

Boy is a bit disrespectful.

[@dcviper985]

I'm digging these new videos. Engaging presentation, and a Mooney!

[@fernandopratesi5378]

Excellent as usual - thanks ASI! In the interest of spreading good training vids (not to steal thunder from ASI) Avweb also has a great video on gear ups with good ol’ Paul B.

[@Ray2Jerry]

I haven't flown a plane outside MS Flight Sim but still love these videos. They are always very interesting! 😁 👍

[@danielazevedo4020]

I’m so proud of AOPA, those materials are so much didactic 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@johnsmith1474]

Didactic is an adjective. Don't bother trying to seem smart, it ain't working, especially with the emoticons.

[@danni1993]

@@johnsmith1474 OMG...get a life. Who cares?

[@nightwaves3203]

Teaching gear down before flaps helps. Best to teach the gear goes down right before entering a pattern so the student treats it as part of his airspeed managements for a stabilized approach. It's not just final that makes the approach especially when IFR with more available distractions.

[@Yakman18]

Oh my gosh, I have close to 500 hours in N1525T. Glad to see she's doing well.

[@brian1570]

It’s a beautiful plane! Gotta love mooney’s :)

[@Yakman18]

@@brian1570 I’m still flying an Ovation. The perfect small plane, IMHO.

[@johnhamilton7514]

She is indeed doing well. I've been her owner / care taker for 5+ years now. We've become great friends having spent 200+ wonderful hours together. Looking forward to many more years and flights together. She also loves being part of these videos.

[@Yakman18]

@@johnhamilton7514 That’s wonderful. I missed her so much that picked up a 2016 Ovation in May, N2011T. The Ovation is the perfect GA airplane.

[@antoniobranch]

#1: MIXTURE (Forward) #2: PROP (Forward) #3: THREE IN THE GREEN (Down) By memory at least on final.

[@MyTimeToFly]

I catch myself not calling out GUMPs way too often in my videos. I need to improve my consistency. Fortunately my Johnson Bar Mooney needs the gear down to slow down, and would be very difficult to simply "select" gear up on rollout.

[@hueginvieny7959]

So glad this guy is in another video he is great

[@fhuber7507]

Good video. Nice and informative. Good "host" for the episode.

[@keithhoward9238]

Great video

[@2Phast4Rocket]

How about installing the inspection mirrors by the leading edge so that you can visually check to see from the cockpit if your gears are actually down. I see these mirrors on the Arrow at my field.

[@tarzansingh8436]

Wat a great presenter. Enjoyable and engaging

[@KC_FlightChief]

I press G before landing, typically works pretty well

[@calvinnickel9995]

If it doesn’t, just press Y.

[@pacadet]

ALT+F4 to lower gear

[@Richard-ib3kp]

Aerostars had a history of gear up landings. Then that installed a ridiculously annoying gear warning buzzer. Problem went away. As a pilot with thousands of hours I'd advise one if these systems. It's too easy to forget under the right circumstances. This extra added system could save your bacon. Couldn't hurt anyway.

[@Petunia31]

Just started flying a small GA retract for work, after years having it welded down. This video seems awfully targeted…….

[@josephdale69]

The best way to avoid it is to make sure the gear is down by using some sort of checklist every time before you land.

[@JP-vs1ys]

Who the hell is this guy? He's great!

[@alpenglow1235]

The pilot shall extend the gear and perform the Before Landing Checklist: 1) Midfield, or; 2) 5 mile final, or; 3) Final Approach Fix If you live by this, it becomes a habit.

[@keithcolvin8063]

Love this 👍 good info well done

[@bruceabrahamsen221]

Use a checklist!

[@techcommandosinc4147]

Great job!!!

[@SolarWebsite]

As a non-pilot, I'm amazed that this happens so often, it seems like such a trivial thing to get right. Sure, if you've just transitioned from fixed gear, or switch between fixed gear/retracts a lot, I can see this extra risk, but for pilots having flown retracts for years suddenly forgetting to put the gear down... Fascinating.

[@jjohnston94]

Have a look at this one. The gear warning screams for almost a full minute before touchdown. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a37GdnaLqbJrnNk

[@isbestlizard]

Hmm couldn't engines include something like the wheel-of-fortune clickers that make it impossible for the blade to stop outside the green region? I'd definitely design that in, if I was building an engine o.o

[@lionelgower6877]

Why can't software houses get involved in this issue. The moment you initiate the process of taking steps for a landing, then the landing gear SHOULD be a very important aspect to that process before the end of the landing?

[@MassimilianoChiani]

So better on a paved rwy than grass ?

[@ocelot3712]

Oy leme get one of thoes handbooks

[@CascadiaAviation]

G - Gear U - Undercarriage M - Make sure the gear is down P - Put the freakin' gear down!

[@bbayerit]

"Fight (sic) distractions"?

[@PetrHosek]

Could you please clarify how a running engine provides drag? I'm convinced that it's just a myth, as shown in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGWlhmRrmayXgKc

[@DWBurns]

If the gear is stuck up they left one little thing out. LAND AT AN AIRPORT WITH CRASH TRUCKS.

[@ame9021]

To avoid gear up landing, I fly fixed gear aircraft only.

[@jimsmith1856]

I've never heard of a fail safe that prevents the gear from being raised when the aircraft is on the ground. Why is this?

[@turbofan450]

They exist. Many of them sense when weight is on the wheels and thus, don't allow the gear to be retracted on the ground

[@jimsmith1856]

@@turbofan450 Cheers.

[@SolarWebsite]

Don't many larger aircraft have this? I think it's called a squat switch.

[@jjohnston94]

@@SolarWebsite The video does reference squat switches, but just to say they don't always work.

[@johnmajane3731]

Most small planes have switches that will disable the system so it cannot be raised on the ground. But you are relying on 30 or even 60 year old systems that despite being well cared for may not work. Also as you are rolling down the runway after landing the plane for a period is not fully settled on the gear since the wing is still providing lift. This may prevent the system from working and an inadvertent retraction may be allowed to happen.

[@rabidbigdog]

'Avoiding Gear-Up Landings' everyone should???

[@duncandmcgrath6290]

I’ve made a good chunk of money off of those who forget

[@stangdriver8]

G.U.M.P.S.

[@CristiNeagu]

Well, here's an interesting thesis subject for college or school: Design an AI that recognizes when a pilot is coming in for landing, and acts as a smart gear warning.

[@philconey11]

A lot of aircraft have similar annunciation systems. Below certain airspeeds, altitudes, power settings, or a combination of the you can get multiple warnings.

[@CristiNeagu]

@@philconey11 Yes, which is why I didn't say "make a product and sell it". There are pretty robust solutions to this problem already, yes. But because it is relatively complex (since you can't rely just on, say, altitude to give a warning) it would make a good school project.

[@calvinnickel9995]

That’s literally EGPWS.

[@CristiNeagu]

@@calvinnickel9995 As far as I understand EGPWS uses a terrain database to warn the pilot of terrain. As such, it is not what I'm talking about at all. What I am talking about is a neural network that is trained to detect landing preparations based on pilot actions and behaviour, and warn the pilot if the gear isn't down. Like I said, this isn't an idea for a commercial product, but for a research topic.

[@AvroBus]

"Gear-up landings and gear collapses happen to pilots regardless of experience levels or certificates held" may hold true for GA but for Airline Ops this is unheard of; except for mechanical failure. The difference? Rigid SOPS and checklist adherence! As a GA pilot you should really try to emulate the professionals!

[@DanFrederiksen]

I would definitely turn off the engine. If you can't set it down right at the runway with engine off, you should not be flying. As for pilot error, if the plane has synthetic vision, as they should all do, it can do the math on an approach to land and warn that the gear is not out. Since GA has pilots of high average age, such would seem pertinent. Since the plane is totalled in a belly landing. Rather costly impact on insurance rates. I hear that's a problem.

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@Flying_Snakes bs. GPS and a map can be done for pennies.

[@Flying_Snakes]

@@DanFrederiksen Incorrect...again.

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@Flying_Snakes dude, you can get a Lenovo 14" laptop with everything for little over 200$. it can run google earth and then some. synthetic vision glass doesn't have to cost 10 grand. And if you just wanted bare minimum cost synthetic vision you could probably pull off a 60$ device with a 5" display that may not be the most elegant but quality enough information to easily fly by and keep you safe. a 32 inch 4k LG monitor is 250-300$. Yet a 10inch garmin 1280 pixel display is 10 grand.

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@Flying_Snakes synthetic vision doesn't require wifi or any internet connection. I'm a tech genius and computer scientist. It is as I say. Google earth was just to show you that an inexpensive computer can render more than adequate synthetic vision. Not that it should live load from the internet.

[@johndalman6616]

Dan you should stick to things you know. I don’t want to do math on final to determine if my gear is up. And planes are not always totaled. I landed my Beech F33A gear up 14 months ago. Pilot error. Ins paid and we rebuilt the plane and it flies as good as ever. Checklists etc are fine until you get complacent or heavily distracted. I do GUMPS and checklists but my one inviolate rule is do not descend below pattern altitude with gear up.

[@soaringbumnm8374]

Don't f`ing land on the runway if you have to land gear up

[@calvinnickel9995]

Always land on the runway. I saw a nice Mooney like that one take the grass because he thought he’d save the airplane. It dug in and did major damage. Plane was a write off.

[@jimmyfall9302]

Ditch the ads.

[@basedchad2196]

What does this 30 second charade at the beginning, do for this video and respect of people’s time? Nothing, obviously. Great channel, but please don’t go down this mindless entertainment path

[@WheatMillington]

Awful intro.